My two cents

First one, stay with your choice of UB 62 and for the second one (if
it is a dia mai and not a diaphram pulse to begin with) try
adjusting the needle depth on GB41 as you feel the pulse.

Kelvin







--- In PulseDiagnosis@yahoogroups.com, "eliseradams"
<eliseradams@y...> wrote:
> One of my patient's reported that he wakes up every couple of hours.
> So I am thinking ying qi cycle. He had a dai mai pulse on both
> sides. After needling GB 41 his dai mai's became yang qiaos. Is the
> ying qi (entry/exit) still relevant or should I be thinking UB 62.
>
> What do you think about the notion of using SJ 5 or points around the
> head (GB 8, 13) to vent the energy that is moving up from the middle
> jiao after needling GB 41 for a dai mai pulse.
>
>
> Another patient with strong dai mai pulses on both sides reported
> water retention and bloating and irregular sleep patterns. After
> needling GB 41 bilaterally the dai mai pulse moved up slightly
> between the middle and distal positions. I needled LV 13,14, SP 15
> and around the diaphragm area. The pulse did not change. I added
> lung 1 to incorporate the entry and exit (ying qi) with no change.
> Using the compass method I felt that liver position was inflated in
> the north (water) position so I needled that point. Nothing
> changed.
>
> I even added in HT 1 and SP 21 thinking maybe HT/ SP ying qi because
> she also had an inflated SP pos. and weak HT pos. But this did not
> resolve the pulse. I am so used to feeling some kind of change in
> the pulse with needling, what else could I have done?