1)In the Pulse diagnosis text by Hammer there is no discussion of a pulse
that is deep and forceful. I came across this quality in the right proximal
position. Any thoughts?
2) In the same text there is dicusion pulse changing pulse rates on pg.115. It
describes a pulse as continuously speeding up and slowing down. I recently
took a pulse rate at the begining of an exam which was 90 bpm. At the end of
the exam it was 80 bpm. I did not detect any instablility in the pulse. Is
there
any significance to this change?
HI Elise - this must have slipped by... Hammer called this pulse muffled. But this is serious stagnation. Was there any significant trauma? ... This is a type...
1)In the Pulse diagnosis text by Hammer there is no discussion of a pulse that is deep and forceful. I came across this quality in the right proximal ...
Hi Michael - ... proximal ... Wang Shu-he discusses this as a sign of latent pathogens. I would follow that line of reasoning and rule it out. ... pg.115. It ...
Hello Will and Michael, This deep and forceful pulse is related to latent pathogens in the following manner. In recent years, Leon has been dividing the Organ...
At 02:34 PM 7/13/04, Brandt wrote: ... Hi Brandt, Although I don't find it in the book, I have some memory of asking Leon at a seminar about constant change...
Hi Brandt and all, A change in speed may occur in young adults simply as a sign of health!! 'Normally', it may speed up on inspiration and slow down on...
Bravo Sean, Although he would not have explained it biomedical terms, even Dr. Shen preferred the simplest (and usually most logical) explanation as the best...
Ray Rubio
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Jul 14, 2004 1:57 pm
Hello All, A change in speed may occur in young adults simply as a sign of health!! 'Normally', it may speed up on inspiration and slow down on expiration. ...
Sean, A significant variation in the rhythm of the pulse that is related to respiration indicates deficiency of the Heart Qi, not normalcy. This is Dr....
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A change in heart rate with respirations is also seen in some mild cases of hypotension and dehydration. It has to do with the diaphragm dropping and...
Bill Chesser
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Jul 15, 2004 3:09 pm
Hi Brandt - Would you speak to the clinical implications of findings at the three depths (o-o, q-o, b-o) of the organ depth? Ie. the diagnosis, treatment plan...
Hamilton, You are confused. You are discussing rhythm. I beleive the orignial question to which I responded related to rate, not rhythm to which you are...
Sean, In Dr. Hammer's terminology a change of rate at rest is classified as an arrhythmia and this finding is analyzed separately from the rate itself. It is ...
Hamilton, You wrote: 'Rates which are different during a pulse reading also reflects Heart Qi deficiency. A rate which is 90 at one time and 80 at another is...
Hi Chris, ‘Subtle variations around the mean’ as you describe are all very well, but how subtle do you need to be before there is a loss of diagnostic...
Hi Brandt - In my experience, pounding and slippery can be signs of latent 'dampness and heat' or 'heat' if found in the blood or (most commonly) organ depths....
Thanks Will, this is very thorough. Have you checked out O-O. B-O, or Q-O too? Is the jin mai you're describing only at the organ depth in this scenario? ...
Hi Brandt - I have used the method. The jin mai can be at any or all of those depths since they are all in a 'deep' area. Will ... Will Morris, L.Ac., OMD,...
Hi Will- Of all of the methods you've described do you find one more commonly than others? Or do they seem to appear together as corroborating signs? i think...
Hi Brandt - I concur with your idea that latent pathology is important. The Germans consider focal infections to be significant factors for health maintenance...
Hi Will— The treatment of latent pathogens has a couple of aspects that make it a delicate situation clinically. On one hand it is difficult to tonify the...
Will in assessing latency, besides the "3" pulse findings you discussed what tongue signs would indicate latency, and besides past extreme fevers and...
aaron nickamin
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Aug 27, 2004 2:24 am
Hi Hamilton, Yes - terminology is a problem when it comes to pulse diagnosis as our current dialogue is evidence of this. These complications arise from...
Hi Chris, What you say is all too true. However, 'meaning within the world we live in' and our interpretation of such is driven by experience and consequently,...
Aaron - this tongue demonstrates latent heat if the patient is not in an 'active' state. 1. There are red prickles 2. The latent pathogens obstruct fluid ...
Hello, 1) What does the presence of a bifurcated pulse indicate? I had a 27 y/o female patient come in a while back with a LV pulse that possessed two...
Hi Allyson, Leon Hammer suggests that a "split pulse" particularly of the middle positions, can indicate an anomolus branch of the palmar artery, the splitting...
Dear Joe, and Allyson: Actually Leon would suggest that the Split pulse, which is most often felt over the whole pulse, or the left middle position is related...
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