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#15140 From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...making behavior stargazingfo...
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Angela,

So sorry for what you are going through. That is really heart breaking! It sounds like there is more against them than you. I would try to find the right person to talk to about this and get them arrested! Good luck to you.

Star

From: Angela <LV9@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 5:56:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...making behavior

Hi all,

I am new to this list. I had just joined around the end of Sept.

However, my email address got messed up and I haven't

gotten all of my email since Sept 29th I just fixed it this

morning. I tried to post what was happening in my life

with my daughter who I believe is a Psychopath/ Narcissist.

And things just seemed to completely unravel with her again.

She borrowed my computer to do her emails for her homebased

business...however, what she did was to download confidential

files and try to use them to blackmail me and extort money for

her rent that was past due. This was the day after I paid her

180.00 phone bill. Well, the blackmail worked my husband

paid her rent 550.00 plus 75.00 late charge. The b/f's grandfather

paid $200.00. Well the b/f thanked me by called DCF and

filing false child abuse charges against me. The charge was

based on what my daughter told him that happened Halloween

night. It was an innocent accident involving my grandson and

me. He was running and collided into me. The b/f was angry

because no one told him that the grandfather gave 200.00.

which was the grandfather's wishes. Because he had told him

he wasn't going to lend him anymore money. Later he told his

grandson. And the grandson flipped out on both my daughter

and me. And filed the false child abuse charges with his new

g/f across the street from my daughter's house. He also set fire

to her house as well. And called me up and tried to black mail

me with the same confidential files.

Now I can't see my grandkids. My grandson can't participate in

his soccer games which he waited to play since he was three

years old. His uncle played and he was so excited to be playing

and he was so good too. He scored 4 goals the last game. Just

when my two grandkids were settled in school and soccer and

dance now this. My granddaugher can't go to her dance classes

either. Her mom would never take them.

I have no idea what is happening. DCF has not arrested me...

which I didn't think they would have a case. I have not heard from my

daughter. My Narcissist adopted mother who has started her share

of division between my children and me. Told me that my daughter is

moving near her with the kids which has been her life's dream to get

my kids to hate me. She has accomplished this because she gives

them money and I do not. I don't have it to give anymore. I am in

debt. btw my adopted mother is a A. The b/f is an A as well.... big time

a. He gets drunk and violent and the police are called. He locked his

baby in the bathroom screaming while he past out in the bedroom.

My daughter is just unstable and dangerous. Two weeks ago she

threatened she was going to kill herself if i didn't help her. Her prior

b/f who is the two older kids dad is in prison for robbing houses...

mine in particular because of my husband's medication that he stole.

So now my grandkids are being raised by druggies, alcoholics and

emotionally unstable people. instead of learning soccer my grandson

will learn how to do drugs, drink and lead a criminal life. Hey if Dad

went to Jail it can't be that bad...right?

I am really worried about my grandkids I just hope and pray that they

are Ok. And I can eventually see them again after the thirty days

when the case is closed.

Thank you for listening to me. I appreciate you being here.

Blessings.

Angela

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#15139 From: cdnchange
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:11 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest cdnchange
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I doubt it, I seem to remember you talking about missing a train for work.  I
miss the trains all the time -- cuz they tore out the tracks around here... and
we arent talking passenger trains  LOL.

At any rate, if we did, I wont fight you for him  LMAO!



--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> Are you sure we didn't date the same guy CC?  LOL!
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> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, cdnchange <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > I cant speak for all N's lol... but in my ex's case, telling him to F-OFF
wouldnt mean THAT to him.  It is "normal" for him to lie, manipulate, use/abuse,
hurt others so why wouldnt I do the same?  Couple that mentality with his belief
that he is to be loved and worshipped by EVERYONE.  Nope, my saying "FOFF and
leave me alone forever" couldnt possibly mean just that?  He would consider it a
challenge to either get back in and "win" the next round or cause more hurt if
he doesnt get what he wants.  Explaining anything to him doesnt phase him - why
would it, only he EVER mattered.  He gets nothing from me, not even useless chit
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Why do they still call??  I never understood that with mine either.  Don't they
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#15138 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest ginateresawo...
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I believe that counselor was right!

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 11:04 AM

One of my counsellors from years ago said that it doesn't matter if you tell them never to contact you. He said that they will, only so they can come back and "dump" you and tell YOU not to contact THEM.

Saba.

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#15137 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest ginateresawo...
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I wasn't a stranger to that, myself, saba. I fell for it a few times...but I never physically went back....I just let him back into my life and my kids lives.....I still regret that for my kids sake. He was horrible to them when I was a work....Piss ANT!!!!

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:59 AM

Gina.

The fact is, 85% of the time they succeed. Women, like myself and many others, do believe and do go back.

Saba.

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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> I agree!Â They are so stupid, aren't they?Â I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times.Â He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it.Â Yeah, right. LOL.Â That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.
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> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
>
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>
>
> Lyn,
> Â
> I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN.Â He also hit on it too.Â All he did was brag about himself.Â That's kinda how I found out who he really is....
> Â
> So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL
> Â
> G
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM
>
>
> Â
>
>
> LOL........haven' t had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later.Â Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!!Â Does that make me an n or just a smarter person?Â LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N.Â Posing as someone else on the internet.Â I could smell his crap from aÂ mile away!!!
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM
>
>
> Â
>
> Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.
>
> I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.
>
> He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> >
> >
> > Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> > away when you ignore them.
> >
> > Saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> > him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> > >
> > > saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
> >
> > > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > > storm lol.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> > that
> > > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > > >
> > > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > > because
> > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > sneezing.... ...yuk.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > anything
> > > > from
> > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > > busting
> > > > > ns lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > > other
> > > > by
> > > > >
> > > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
> >
> > > > feel
> > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > > the
> > > > > curb
> > > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > > where
> > > > I
> > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > > Carolina.
> > > >
> > > > > The
> > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> > have
> > >
> > > > not
> > > > >
> > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > > support,
> > > > >
> > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> > need
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > stress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > > those
> > > >
> > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > > men.
> > > >
> > > > > But
> > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> > led
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
> >
> > > > good
> > > > > at
> > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > her
> > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > > work.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
> >
> > > be
> > > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > > hope
> > > >
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > > should
> > > > >
> > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> > just
> > > > > called
> > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> > a
> > > > > month
> > > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
> >
> > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> > South
> > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > > attraction
> > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
> >
> > > > long
> > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > advertising
> > > > > when
> > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > > ruined
> > > > > him
> > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
> >
> > > > just
> > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> > and
> > >
> > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > > around
> > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
> >
> > > > > living
> > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> > some
> > >
> > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > searching
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> > at
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > > reader
> > > >
> > > > > if
> > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
> >
> > > he
> > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > > and
> > > > > went
> > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > > ring.
> > > >
> > > > > We
> > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > > just
> > > >
> > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> > even
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> > he
> > >
> > > > > told
> > > > > > me he was
> > > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > cousin
> > >
> > > > had
> > > > >
> > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> > back
> > > > and
> > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > apologized
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> > an
> > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> > the
> > >
> > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> > the
> > >
> > > > > cold
> > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> > in
> > > > > touch
> > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > > told
> > > > > him
> > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > > because
> > > > > he
> > > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> > off
> > > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> > have
> > > > > become
> > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > > divorce.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > > cousin's
> > > >
> > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > > email
> > > >
> > > > > him
> > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> > his
> > > > > cousin
> > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
> >
> > > me
> > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > > asked
> > > > if
> > > > > I
> > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > > man
> > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > > house,
> > > > >
> > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> > can
> > > > give
> > > > >
> > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > > wanted.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> > into
> > > > > better
> > > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > > this
> > > >
> > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
> >
> > > .>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > > friends!
> > > > >
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> > the
> > >
> > > > > last
> > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> > said
> > > > 'ok
> > > > > ok
> > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > > keep
> > > >
> > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > > before,
> > > > >
> > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> > I
> > >
> > > > am
> > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> > had
> > >
> > > > > dated
> > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
> >
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> > sitting
> > > at
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > > she
> > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > > dating
> > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > see
> > > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
> >
> > > was
> > > >
> > > > > so
> > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > > back
> > > >
> > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> > it
> > > > gave
> > > > >
> > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > > thought
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > share.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > > horrified
> > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> > can't
> > >
> > > > > they
> > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > either....when
> > > >
> > > > > you
> > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
> >
> > > it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> > me
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > > Iranian,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > > remember
> > > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> > friend
> > > > > while
> > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
> >
> > > > > family
> > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > > from
> > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> > from
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> > became
> > >
> > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > > something
> > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > > himself
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > > the
> > > > > kids
> > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> > or
> > >
> > > > > talk
> > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> > I
> > >
> > > > > went
> > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > > the
> > > > > next
> > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > > talking
> > > > >
> > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> > to
> > >
> > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> > He
> > >
> > > > > could
> > > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> > then
> > > > > asked
> > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> > subject.
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
> >
> > > on
> > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> > would
> > >
> > > > > have
> > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> > went
> > >
> > > > off
> > > > >
> > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > > But,
> > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> > at
> > > > one.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
> >
> > > > that
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> > wanted
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> > her
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> > jist
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > > questions
> > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> > game
> > > > but
> > > > > he
> > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > > questions,
> > > > I
> > > > >
> > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
> >
> > > > What
> > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > > instead
> > > > > of
> > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> > his
> > >
> > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> > (WHY
> > >
> > > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
> >
> > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > > suggested
> > > > > she
> > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> > I
> > > > told
> > > > >
> > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> > did
> > > > not!
> > > > >
> > > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> > either
> > > > > ignore
> > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > > answers.
> > > > He
> > > > >
> > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > > deal.
> > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> > out
> > >
> > > > in
> > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> > wouldn't
> > >
> > > > "do
> > > > >
> > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
> >
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > > anything
> > > >
> > > > > but
> > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> > He
> > > > says
> > > > >
> > > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> > given
> > > > the
> > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > > ignored.
> > > > I
> > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
> >
> > > to
> > > > > me,
> > > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
> >
> > > > tell
> > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > > start
> > > >
> > > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
> >
> > > had
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > > bed
> > > > > next
> > > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > > you
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
> > > > didn't
> > > > >
> > > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > more like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> > have
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > get
> > > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> > was
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > > free
> > > > > time
> > > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> > 1257
> > > > > > messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
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#15136 From: canadiansaba
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:04 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest canadiansaba
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One of my counsellors from years ago said that it doesn't matter if you tell
them never to contact you.  He said that they will, only so they can come back
and "dump" you and tell YOU not to contact THEM.



Saba.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
wrote:
>
> You said it, cdnchage~!  That's just like mine.....he took it as a challenge
to "win" or an opportunity to hurt me more!!   He told me to enjoy my poverty
the most recent time I told him to "F-OFF"....LOL
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, cdnchange <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: cdnchange <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:29 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I cant speak for all N's lol... but in my ex's case, telling him to F-OFF
wouldnt mean THAT to him. It is "normal" for him to lie, manipulate, use/abuse,
hurt others so why wouldnt I do the same? Couple that mentality with his belief
that he is to be loved and worshipped by EVERYONE. Nope, my saying "FOFF and
leave me alone forever" couldnt possibly mean just that? He would consider it a
challenge to either get back in and "win" the next round or cause more hurt if
he doesnt get what he wants. Explaining anything to him doesnt phase him - why
would it, only he EVER mattered. He gets nothing from me, not even useless chit
chat.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't think they understand squat; not in the way that "normal" people do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
> >
> >
> > Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point. Why
do they still call?? I never understood that with mine either. Don't they
understand "F-OFF"???
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> > --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@ . <lyndieayn@ ..> wrote:
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#15135 From: canadiansaba
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest canadiansaba
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Gina.

The fact is, 85% of the time they succeed.  Women, like myself and many others,
do believe and do go back.

Saba.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
wrote:
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> You're so right.  I think they have their own distorted belief that they can
con someone back into being with them....no matter what it takes....mine used
money ALOT
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> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:
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> From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:52 AM
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> I don't think they understand squat; not in the way that "normal" people do. 
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> Lyn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point.  Why
do they still call??  I never understood that with mine either.  Don't they
understand "F-OFF"???
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:46 PM
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>  
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>
> He calls but I don't answer.  He showed up where I was with my friends
Haloween night.....that' s about it.
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> Lyn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> Lyn, I'm so sorry.  That HAD to be so humiliating AND discouraging. 
Something was wrong with that judge, I tell ya!!  He is no longer bothering you
though, now....right? ??
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> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:46 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> Me too!!!!  I even took a court advocate with me.  She was from SafeHome. 
She just shook her head in disbelief.  I was a crying mess.  I felt like such
an idiot and of course n was smirking.
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who
knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!!   MAN,
the law pisses me off sometime.... it's like you said....what the heck else do
they need????  a bomb??? a bullet????   what jerks,.....
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM
>
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>  
>
>
> The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough
evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if
I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door.  Then he would call and say he
was standing outside my house.  He'd go through my mail and put things in my
mailbox, which is a federal offense.  If I went out with friends, he would have
me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing.  He would
drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here.  On and on. 
I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need.  Maybe a bullet in my head
would work.
>
>
>
> Lyn
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???
> I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being
harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that
situation until they're killed.  We've had a few of those types of killings
around here in the last year or so.
> Sad, but true.....
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM
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>  
>
>
> Wow that's great that you got one.  I was really disappointed that they
wouldn't grant one to me. 
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> Lyn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety.  My
friends said I should report it.  It was only city wide and once it expired, I
tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they
couldn't find him.  Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't
get him.  He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me
altogether because he moved to Florida....
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM
>
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>  
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>
> Yes!!!  Did you try to get a restraining order?
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> Lyn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> Mine did that too!  He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants
while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with
friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by
my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons
name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to
call and send texts...etc etc etc
> it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM
>
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>  
>
>
> Me too!!!  I'm terrified!  Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a
restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the
patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was
here......on and on.  Actually, I'm scared of him too!
>
>
>
> Lyn
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> I second that, Lyn!  I'm scared to death of them too!  I SURELY don't want
any man knowing where I live.  That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and
I couldn't get rid of him!!!
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
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> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> That's true........ ..lol  AS IF I would call any of them.  I don't call men
and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me.  I don't
want any men to know my number or where I live.  I'm scared to death of men
now. 
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> Lyn,
>  
> If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL
>  
> Gina
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> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> Exactly,  I don't know how many guys have given me their cards.  I don't
even wait to get home to trash them.  I trash them as I go out the door.  They
probably see me do it but who cares? LOL
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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>
> Me too, Lyn.  I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and
try to get me to call them or IM them.  I just think that the N's or just
complete jerks want to move that fast.  I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE
again!  I do not hand out my phone number either.  I've had guys at bars ask
me for my number.  I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can
give me theirs.  As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL   That
eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM
>
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>  
>
>
> I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites.  How else are they going to
find victims?  I'm so done with it.  I have several guys who've contacted me
(like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not
replying.  I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! 
I never did that even before n!  I guess some women do though.  Sigh
>
>
>
> Lyn
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> Lyn,
>  
> I'm with you there!  I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again
either!  I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most
of them are married or just looking for another bed partner.  I feel like the
"good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for
a woman....
>  
> Gina
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> I'm laughing so hard lol.  Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too.  I
just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from
the internet again.  Barf
>
> Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I
said I would if he would.  So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't. 
>
> He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he
was not to use his work puter for dating sites.  He doesn't have a puter at
home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library.  What a dunce. 
What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> They are so stupid and so desperate for attention!  Mine said the same
thing!!  That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
> I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles
because he doesn't have a life.  He lives in front of the computer searching
for women.  Pitiful....
> Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
> I agree!  They are so stupid, aren't they?  I even confronted my xn about
it.....actually I did it several times.  He said he knew it was me, that's why
he hit on it.  Yeah, right. LOL.  That doesn't even make any kind of sense,
even to an n.
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> Lyn,
>  
> I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN.  He also hit
on it too.  All he did was brag about himself.  That's kinda how I found out
who he really is....
>  
> So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL
>  
> G
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
> LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later. 
Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake
profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!!  Does that make me an n
or just a smarter person?  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N.  Posing as someone else
on the internet.  I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM
>
>
>  
>
> Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me
emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send
me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no
idea where I am.
>
> I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just
wanted more N supply.
>
> He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At
one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later
found out it was him.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> >
> >
> > Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
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> >
> > That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they
go
> > away when you ignore them.
> >
> > Saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope
they
> > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> > him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I
did
> > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> > >
> > > saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you
aren't
> > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2
ns
> >
> > > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > > storm lol.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> > that
> > > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > > >
> > > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > > because
> > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > sneezing.... ...yuk.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > anything
> > > > from
> > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just
love
> > > > busting
> > > > > ns lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my
> > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > > other
> > > > by
> > > > >
> > > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has
to
> >
> > > > feel
> > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss
to
> > > the
> > > > > curb
> > > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me..........
......... .......not
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > > where
> > > > I
> > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > > Carolina.
> > > >
> > > > > The
> > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> > have
> > >
> > > > not
> > > > >
> > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > > support,
> > > > >
> > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> > need
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > stress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of
all
> > > those
> > > >
> > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up
with
> > > men.
> > > >
> > > > > But
> > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away
and
> > led
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would
never
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm
d***
> >
> > > > good
> > > > > at
> > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics
of him
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > her
> > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had
to
> > > > work.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same;
just
> >
> > > be
> > > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken
if
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and
I
> > > hope
> > > >
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow?
You
> > > > should
> > > > >
> > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> > just
> > > > > called
> > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in
with
> > a
> > > > > month
> > > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in
another
> >
> > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> > South
> > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > > attraction
> > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows
how
> >
> > > > long
> > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > advertising
> > > > > when
> > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > > ruined
> > > > > him
> > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and
friends
> > > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but
he's
> >
> > > > just
> > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> > and
> > >
> > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over
and
> > > > around
> > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your
husband,
> >
> > > > > living
> > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> > some
> > >
> > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > searching
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was
looking
> > at
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > > reader
> > > >
> > > > > if
> > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and
then
> >
> > > he
> > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our
car
> > > and
> > > > > went
> > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off
the
> > > ring.
> > > >
> > > > > We
> > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing
sexual,
> > > just
> > > >
> > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> > even
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early
Spring,
> > he
> > >
> > > > > told
> > > > > > me he was
> > > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > cousin
> > >
> > > > had
> > > > >
> > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> > back
> > > > and
> > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > apologized
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed
with
> > an
> > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once
during
> > the
> > >
> > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now
that
> > the
> > >
> > > > > cold
> > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been
getting
> > in
> > > > > touch
> > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > > told
> > > > > him
> > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to
him
> > > > because
> > > > > he
> > > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were
cut
> > off
> > > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more!
I
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> > have
> > > > > become
> > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > > divorce.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > > cousin's
> > > >
> > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me
to
> > > email
> > > >
> > > > > him
> > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> > his
> > > > > cousin
> > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he
gave
> >
> > > me
> > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > > asked
> > > > if
> > > > > I
> > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing
any
> > > man
> > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to
my
> > > > house,
> > > > >
> > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> > can
> > > > give
> > > > >
> > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > > wanted.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> > into
> > > > > better
> > > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup
s.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I
find
> > > this
> > > >
> > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47"
<mahhrene@
> >
> > > .>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your
childhood
> > > > friends!
> > > > >
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting
but
> > the
> > >
> > > > > last
> > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> > said
> > > > 'ok
> > > > > ok
> > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy
and
> > > keep
> > > >
> > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't
talked
> > > > before,
> > > > >
> > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared
of.
> > I
> > >
> > > > am
> > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at
all. In
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly,
I
> > had
> > >
> > > > > dated
> > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting
for
> >
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> > sitting
> > > at
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind
me ,
> > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table
and
> > > she
> > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had
been
> > > dating
> > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > see
> > > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us
and
> >
> > > was
> > > >
> > > > > so
> > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to
get
> > > back
> > > >
> > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters
so
> > it
> > > > gave
> > > > >
> > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > > thought
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > share.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me
a
> > > > > horrified
> > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I
should.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> > can't
> > >
> > > > > they
> > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > either....when
> > > >
> > > > > you
> > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to
get
> >
> > > it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This
reminds
> > me
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > > Iranian,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > > remember
> > > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> > friend
> > > > > while
> > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not
the
> >
> > > > > family
> > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came
home
> > > from
> > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes
away
> > from
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> > became
> > >
> > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > > something
> > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > > himself
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset,
got
> > > the
> > > > > kids
> > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see
him
> > or
> > >
> > > > > talk
> > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our
bed.
> > I
> > >
> > > > > went
> > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed
and
> > > the
> > > > > next
> > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I
was
> > > > talking
> > > > >
> > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I
went
> > to
> > >
> > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said
he
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for
sex.
> > He
> > >
> > > > > could
> > > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> > then
> > > > > asked
> > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> > subject.
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he
compliments me
> >
> > > on
> > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> > would
> > >
> > > > > have
> > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a
bell
> > went
> > >
> > > > off
> > > > >
> > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip
club.
> > > But,
> > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last
year
> > at
> > > > one.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell
him
> >
> > > > that
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> > wanted
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother
was
> > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked
to
> > her
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> > jist
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing
20
> > > > > questions
> > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> > game
> > > > but
> > > > > he
> > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > > questions,
> > > > I
> > > > >
> > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip
club.
> >
> > > > What
> > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip
club
> > > > instead
> > > > > of
> > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation
with
> > his
> > >
> > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family
outing.
> > (WHY
> > >
> > > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER
COME
> >
> > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > > suggested
> > > > > she
> > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh,
well
> > I
> > > > told
> > > > >
> > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed!
"You
> > did
> > > > not!
> > > > >
> > > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> > either
> > > > > ignore
> > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him.
He
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > > answers.
> > > > He
> > > > >
> > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a
big
> > > > deal.
> > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to
go
> > out
> > >
> > > > in
> > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and
said I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> > wouldn't
> > >
> > > > "do
> > > > >
> > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He
went
> >
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > > anything
> > > >
> > > > > but
> > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was
$10.
> > He
> > > > says
> > > > >
> > > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> > given
> > > > the
> > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > > ignored.
> > > > I
> > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to
getaway
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet
and
> > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair
came up
> >
> > > to
> > > > > me,
> > > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has
to
> >
> > > > tell
> > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear
to
> > > start
> > > >
> > > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room
(son
> >
> > > had
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got
into
> > > bed
> > > > > next
> > > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told
him I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how
can
> > > you
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was
giving
> > > > didn't
> > > > >
> > > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > more like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> > have
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > get
> > > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex.
He
> > was
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours
of
> > > free
> > > > > time
> > > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> > 1257
> > > > > > messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> >
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#15134 From: canadiansaba
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:00 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest canadiansaba
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Are you sure we didn't date the same guy CC?  LOL!

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, cdnchange <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I cant speak for all N's lol... but in my ex's case, telling him to F-OFF
wouldnt mean THAT to him.  It is "normal" for him to lie, manipulate, use/abuse,
hurt others so why wouldnt I do the same?  Couple that mentality with his belief
that he is to be loved and worshipped by EVERYONE.  Nope, my saying "FOFF and
leave me alone forever" couldnt possibly mean just that?  He would consider it a
challenge to either get back in and "win" the next round or cause more hurt if
he doesnt get what he wants.  Explaining anything to him doesnt phase him - why
would it, only he EVER mattered.  He gets nothing from me, not even useless chit
chat.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >  I don't think they understand squat; not in the way that "normal" people
do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
> >
> >
> > Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point. 
Why do they still call??  I never understood that with mine either.  Don't they
understand "F-OFF"???
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@ <lyndieayn@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
>

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#15133 From: cdnchange
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post cdnchange
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Gina

On the message board there is a search by message #.  Your reply was 15082 from
november 10 at 5:54pm.  If that doesnt work you can page back in the OLDER link
near the upper right hand corner to find the right range.

HTH
CC

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
wrote:
>
> saba,
>  
> I need help to find my post on the board....so I can delete it....
>  
> Gina
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:43 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Gina and Lyn.
>
> Do you use the website mail? If so, could you delete the post from there?
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, canadiansaba <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> >
> > I did delete my post. But those who responded, will also have to come on the
site to delete their response.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to
> > > the web site and then you click on it an open it and
> > > then you click delete and then ok.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please.
I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago
knowing i'm here.
> > > >
> > > > i am too scared right now...
> > > >
> > > > saba.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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#15132 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Thanks CC ginateresawo...
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Send Email

Thanks. Does that mean that you don't want it deleted?

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Thanks CC
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:53 AM

For the email on "crazy".

Your email was great. Very supportive and made a lot of sense.

Saba.

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#15131 From: canadiansaba
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest canadiansaba
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Under the "stalkers" thread, I think it was said that they check up.  I think
they may need to know how you're doing - without them.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point.  Why
do they still call??  I never understood that with mine either.  Don't they
understand "F-OFF"???
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:46 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> He calls but I don't answer.  He showed up where I was with my friends
Haloween night.....that' s about it.
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lyn, I'm so sorry.  That HAD to be so humiliating AND discouraging. 
Something was wrong with that judge, I tell ya!!  He is no longer bothering you
though, now....right? ??
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:46 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> Me too!!!!  I even took a court advocate with me.  She was from SafeHome. 
She just shook her head in disbelief.  I was a crying mess.  I felt like such
an idiot and of course n was smirking.
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who
knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!!   MAN,
the law pisses me off sometime.... it's like you said....what the heck else do
they need????  a bomb??? a bullet????   what jerks,.....
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
> The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough
evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if
I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door.  Then he would call and say he
was standing outside my house.  He'd go through my mail and put things in my
mailbox, which is a federal offense.  If I went out with friends, he would have
me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing.  He would
drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here.  On and on. 
I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need.  Maybe a bullet in my head
would work.
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???
> I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being
harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that
situation until they're killed.  We've had a few of those types of killings
around here in the last year or so.
> Sad, but true.....
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> Wow that's great that you got one.  I was really disappointed that they
wouldn't grant one to me. 
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety.  My
friends said I should report it.  It was only city wide and once it expired, I
tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they
couldn't find him.  Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't
get him.  He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me
altogether because he moved to Florida....
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> Yes!!!  Did you try to get a restraining order?
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mine did that too!  He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants
while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with
friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by
my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons
name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to
call and send texts...etc etc etc
> it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> Me too!!!  I'm terrified!  Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a
restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the
patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was
here......on and on.  Actually, I'm scared of him too!
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I second that, Lyn!  I'm scared to death of them too!  I SURELY don't want
any man knowing where I live.  That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and
I couldn't get rid of him!!!
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> That's true........ ..lol  AS IF I would call any of them.  I don't call men
and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me.  I don't
want any men to know my number or where I live.  I'm scared to death of men
now. 
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lyn,
>  
> If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL
>  
> Gina
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> Exactly,  I don't know how many guys have given me their cards.  I don't
even wait to get home to trash them.  I trash them as I go out the door.  They
probably see me do it but who cares? LOL
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Me too, Lyn.  I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and
try to get me to call them or IM them.  I just think that the N's or just
complete jerks want to move that fast.  I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE
again!  I do not hand out my phone number either.  I've had guys at bars ask
me for my number.  I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can
give me theirs.  As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL   That
eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites.  How else are they going to
find victims?  I'm so done with it.  I have several guys who've contacted me
(like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not
replying.  I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! 
I never did that even before n!  I guess some women do though.  Sigh
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lyn,
>  
> I'm with you there!  I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again
either!  I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most
of them are married or just looking for another bed partner.  I feel like the
"good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for
a woman....
>  
> Gina
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
> I'm laughing so hard lol.  Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too.  I
just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from
the internet again.  Barf
>
> Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I
said I would if he would.  So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't. 
>
> He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he
was not to use his work puter for dating sites.  He doesn't have a puter at
home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library.  What a dunce. 
What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> They are so stupid and so desperate for attention!  Mine said the same
thing!!  That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
> I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles
because he doesn't have a life.  He lives in front of the computer searching
for women.  Pitiful....
> Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
> I agree!  They are so stupid, aren't they?  I even confronted my xn about
it.....actually I did it several times.  He said he knew it was me, that's why
he hit on it.  Yeah, right. LOL.  That doesn't even make any kind of sense,
even to an n.
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lyn,
>  
> I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN.  He also hit
on it too.  All he did was brag about himself.  That's kinda how I found out
who he really is....
>  
> So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL
>  
> G
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
> LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later. 
Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake
profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!!  Does that make me an n
or just a smarter person?  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N.  Posing as someone else
on the internet.  I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM
>
>
>  
>
> Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me
emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send
me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no
idea where I am.
>
> I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just
wanted more N supply.
>
> He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At
one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later
found out it was him.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> >
> >
> > Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they
go
> > away when you ignore them.
> >
> > Saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope
they
> > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> > him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I
did
> > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> > >
> > > saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you
aren't
> > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2
ns
> >
> > > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > > storm lol.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> > that
> > > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > > >
> > > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > > because
> > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > sneezing.... ...yuk.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > anything
> > > > from
> > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just
love
> > > > busting
> > > > > ns lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > > other
> > > > by
> > > > >
> > > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has
to
> >
> > > > feel
> > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss
to
> > > the
> > > > > curb
> > > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me..........
......... .......not
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > > where
> > > > I
> > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > > Carolina.
> > > >
> > > > > The
> > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> > have
> > >
> > > > not
> > > > >
> > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > > support,
> > > > >
> > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> > need
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > stress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of
all
> > > those
> > > >
> > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up
with
> > > men.
> > > >
> > > > > But
> > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away
and
> > led
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would
never
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm
d***
> >
> > > > good
> > > > > at
> > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics
of him
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > her
> > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had
to
> > > > work.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same;
just
> >
> > > be
> > > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken
if
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and
I
> > > hope
> > > >
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow?
You
> > > > should
> > > > >
> > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> > just
> > > > > called
> > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in
with
> > a
> > > > > month
> > > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in
another
> >
> > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> > South
> > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > > attraction
> > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows
how
> >
> > > > long
> > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > advertising
> > > > > when
> > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > > ruined
> > > > > him
> > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and
friends
> > > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but
he's
> >
> > > > just
> > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> > and
> > >
> > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over
and
> > > > around
> > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your
husband,
> >
> > > > > living
> > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> > some
> > >
> > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > searching
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was
looking
> > at
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > > reader
> > > >
> > > > > if
> > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and
then
> >
> > > he
> > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our
car
> > > and
> > > > > went
> > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off
the
> > > ring.
> > > >
> > > > > We
> > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing
sexual,
> > > just
> > > >
> > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> > even
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early
Spring,
> > he
> > >
> > > > > told
> > > > > > me he was
> > > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > cousin
> > >
> > > > had
> > > > >
> > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> > back
> > > > and
> > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > apologized
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed
with
> > an
> > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once
during
> > the
> > >
> > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now
that
> > the
> > >
> > > > > cold
> > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been
getting
> > in
> > > > > touch
> > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > > told
> > > > > him
> > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to
him
> > > > because
> > > > > he
> > > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were
cut
> > off
> > > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more!
I
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> > have
> > > > > become
> > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > > divorce.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > > cousin's
> > > >
> > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me
to
> > > email
> > > >
> > > > > him
> > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> > his
> > > > > cousin
> > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he
gave
> >
> > > me
> > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > > asked
> > > > if
> > > > > I
> > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing
any
> > > man
> > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to
my
> > > > house,
> > > > >
> > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> > can
> > > > give
> > > > >
> > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > > wanted.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> > into
> > > > > better
> > > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup
s.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I
find
> > > this
> > > >
> > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47"
<mahhrene@
> >
> > > .>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your
childhood
> > > > friends!
> > > > >
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting
but
> > the
> > >
> > > > > last
> > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> > said
> > > > 'ok
> > > > > ok
> > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy
and
> > > keep
> > > >
> > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't
talked
> > > > before,
> > > > >
> > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared
of.
> > I
> > >
> > > > am
> > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at
all. In
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly,
I
> > had
> > >
> > > > > dated
> > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting
for
> >
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> > sitting
> > > at
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind
me ,
> > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table
and
> > > she
> > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had
been
> > > dating
> > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > see
> > > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us
and
> >
> > > was
> > > >
> > > > > so
> > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to
get
> > > back
> > > >
> > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters
so
> > it
> > > > gave
> > > > >
> > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > > thought
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > share.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me
a
> > > > > horrified
> > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I
should.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> > can't
> > >
> > > > > they
> > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > either....when
> > > >
> > > > > you
> > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to
get
> >
> > > it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This
reminds
> > me
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > > Iranian,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > > remember
> > > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> > friend
> > > > > while
> > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not
the
> >
> > > > > family
> > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came
home
> > > from
> > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes
away
> > from
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> > became
> > >
> > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > > something
> > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > > himself
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset,
got
> > > the
> > > > > kids
> > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see
him
> > or
> > >
> > > > > talk
> > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our
bed.
> > I
> > >
> > > > > went
> > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed
and
> > > the
> > > > > next
> > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I
was
> > > > talking
> > > > >
> > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I
went
> > to
> > >
> > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said
he
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for
sex.
> > He
> > >
> > > > > could
> > > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> > then
> > > > > asked
> > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> > subject.
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he
compliments me
> >
> > > on
> > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> > would
> > >
> > > > > have
> > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a
bell
> > went
> > >
> > > > off
> > > > >
> > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip
club.
> > > But,
> > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last
year
> > at
> > > > one.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell
him
> >
> > > > that
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> > wanted
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother
was
> > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked
to
> > her
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> > jist
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing
20
> > > > > questions
> > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> > game
> > > > but
> > > > > he
> > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > > questions,
> > > > I
> > > > >
> > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip
club.
> >
> > > > What
> > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip
club
> > > > instead
> > > > > of
> > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation
with
> > his
> > >
> > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family
outing.
> > (WHY
> > >
> > > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER
COME
> >
> > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > > suggested
> > > > > she
> > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh,
well
> > I
> > > > told
> > > > >
> > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed!
"You
> > did
> > > > not!
> > > > >
> > > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> > either
> > > > > ignore
> > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him.
He
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > > answers.
> > > > He
> > > > >
> > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a
big
> > > > deal.
> > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to
go
> > out
> > >
> > > > in
> > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and
said I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> > wouldn't
> > >
> > > > "do
> > > > >
> > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He
went
> >
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > > anything
> > > >
> > > > > but
> > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was
$10.
> > He
> > > > says
> > > > >
> > > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> > given
> > > > the
> > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > > ignored.
> > > > I
> > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to
getaway
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet
and
> > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair
came up
> >
> > > to
> > > > > me,
> > > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has
to
> >
> > > > tell
> > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear
to
> > > start
> > > >
> > > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room
(son
> >
> > > had
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got
into
> > > bed
> > > > > next
> > > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told
him I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how
can
> > > you
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was
giving
> > > > didn't
> > > > >
> > > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > more like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> > have
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > get
> > > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex.
He
> > was
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours
of
> > > free
> > > > > time
> > > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> > 1257
> > > > > > messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.runboard .com/bnarcissist icabuserecovery
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Psychopath sgroup/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Individual Email | Traditional
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Psychopath sgroup/join
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Yahoo! ID required)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Psychopathsgroup- digest@yahoogrou ps.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Psychopathsgroup- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Psychopathsgroup- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.runboard .com/bnarcissist icabuserecovery
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > > >
> > > > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.runboard .com/bnarcissist icabuserecovery
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > >
> > > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.runboard .com/bnarcissist icabuserecovery
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >
> > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> > >
> > > http://www.runboard .com/bnarcissist icabuserecovery
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> >
> > http://www.runboard .com/bnarcissist icabuserecovery
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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#15129 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest ginateresawo...
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You said it, cdnchage~! That's just like mine.....he took it as a challenge to "win" or an opportunity to hurt me more!! He told me to enjoy my poverty the most recent time I told him to "F-OFF"....LOL

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, cdnchange <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: cdnchange <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:29 AM

I cant speak for all N's lol... but in my ex's case, telling him to F-OFF wouldnt mean THAT to him. It is "normal" for him to lie, manipulate, use/abuse, hurt others so why wouldnt I do the same? Couple that mentality with his belief that he is to be loved and worshipped by EVERYONE. Nope, my saying "FOFF and leave me alone forever" couldnt possibly mean just that? He would consider it a challenge to either get back in and "win" the next round or cause more hurt if he doesnt get what he wants. Explaining anything to him doesnt phase him - why would it, only he EVER mattered. He gets nothing from me, not even useless chit chat.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> I don't think they understand squat; not in the way that "normal" people do.
>
>
>
> Lyn

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

>
>
> Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point. Why do they still call?? I never understood that with mine either. Don't they understand "F-OFF"???
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@.. . <lyndieayn@. ..> wrote:
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#15128 From: canadiansaba
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Stalkers canadiansaba
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I agree that they do check up on you from time to time.  I know my ex always
contacts women he's dated.  The one's he's been in a long-term relationship
with, he will try to get back into his life and keep in touch with.  I know this
because he'd say to me that "they" called him.  Or "they" asked him for a favour
by contacting him again.  I am certain HE called them and contacted them.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, cdnchange <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I dont think so either.  I think some will check up from time to time (I am
guessing) when they have about depleted current supply and haven't secured a
real good replacement yet.  That's why I dont show anything when the freak
resurfaces.  I might be a mess inside, but I dont need him thinking there might
be a way back in.  THE WAY IS CLOSED.
>
>
>
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@>
wrote:
> >
> > No, I don't think all N's stalk either.  Some of them just use you up and
then drop you like a hot potato....
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@ <lyndieayn@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: lyndieayn@ <lyndieayn@>
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Stalkers
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:11 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No, just the "special" ones........ ..lol   Seriously, no they don't all
do it. 
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:26 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Stalkers
> >
> >
> > Do all N's stalk?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> >
> >
> > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.runboard .com/bnarcissist icabuserecovery
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >     http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Psychopath sgroup/
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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#15127 From: cdnchange
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:29 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest cdnchange
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I cant speak for all N's lol... but in my ex's case, telling him to F-OFF
wouldnt mean THAT to him.  It is "normal" for him to lie, manipulate, use/abuse,
hurt others so why wouldnt I do the same?  Couple that mentality with his belief
that he is to be loved and worshipped by EVERYONE.  Nope, my saying "FOFF and
leave me alone forever" couldnt possibly mean just that?  He would consider it a
challenge to either get back in and "win" the next round or cause more hurt if
he doesnt get what he wants.  Explaining anything to him doesnt phase him - why
would it, only he EVER mattered.  He gets nothing from me, not even useless chit
chat.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, lyndieayn@... wrote:
>
>
>  I don't think they understand squat; not in the way that "normal" people do.
>
>
>
> Lyn

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest

>
>
> Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point.  Why
do they still call??  I never understood that with mine either.  Don't they
understand "F-OFF"???
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:
>
>
>

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#15126 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest ginateresawo...
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You're so right. I think they have their own distorted belief that they can con someone back into being with them....no matter what it takes....mine used money ALOT

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:52 AM

I don't think they understand squat; not in the way that "normal" people do.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point. Why do they still call?? I never understood that with mine either. Don't they understand "F-OFF"???

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:46 PM

He calls but I don't answer. He showed up where I was with my friends Haloween night.....that' s about it.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn, I'm so sorry. That HAD to be so humiliating AND discouraging. Something was wrong with that judge, I tell ya!! He is no longer bothering you though, now....right? ??

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:46 PM

Me too!!!! I even took a court advocate with me. She was from SafeHome. She just shook her head in disbelief. I was a crying mess. I felt like such an idiot and of course n was smirking.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!! MAN, the law pisses me off sometime.... it's like you said....what the heck else do they need???? a bomb??? a bullet???? what jerks,.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM

The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door. Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house. He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense. If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing. He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here. On and on. I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need. Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???

I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed. We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.

Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

Wow that's great that you got one. I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety. My friends said I should report it. It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him. Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him. He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

Yes!!! Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Mine did that too! He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc

it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

Me too!!! I'm terrified! Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on. Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I second that, Lyn! I'm scared to death of them too! I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live. That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

That's true........ ..lol AS IF I would call any of them. I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me. I don't want any men to know my number or where I live. I'm scared to death of men now.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

Exactly, I don't know how many guys have given me their cards. I don't even wait to get home to trash them. I trash them as I go out the door. They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Me too, Lyn. I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them. I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast. I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again! I do not hand out my phone number either. I've had guys at bars ask me for my number. I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs. As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going to find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying. I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did that even before n! I guess some women do though. Sigh

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I'm with you there! I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either! I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner. I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

I'm laughing so hard lol. Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too. I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again. Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce. What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

They are so stupid and so desperate for attention! Mine said the same thing!! That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for women. Pitiful....

Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

I agree! They are so stupid, aren't they? I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times. He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it. Yeah, right. LOL. That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN. He also hit on it too. All he did was brag about himself. That's kinda how I found out who he really is....

So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL

G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later. Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!! Does that make me an n or just a smarter person? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N. Posing as someone else on the internet. I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> away when you ignore them.
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> >
> > saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
>
> > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > storm lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> that
> > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > >
> > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > because
> > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> sneezing.... ...yuk.
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> anything
> > > from
> > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > busting
> > > > ns lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > other
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
>
> > > feel
> > > > > she's competing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > the
> > > > curb
> > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > where
> > > I
> > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > Carolina.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> have
> >
> > > not
> > > >
> > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > support,
> > > >
> > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> need
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > stress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > those
> > >
> > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > men.
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> led
> > a
> > >
> > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > have
> > >
> > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
>
> > > good
> > > > at
> > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
>
> > be
> > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
>
> > > this
> > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > hope
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > should
> > > >
> > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> just
> > > > called
> > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> a
> > > > month
> > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
>
> > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> South
> > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > attraction
> > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
>
> > > long
> > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > advertising
> > > > when
> > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > ruined
> > > > him
> > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
>
> > > just
> > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> and
> >
> > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > around
> > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
>
> > > > living
> > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> some
> >
> > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Star
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
>
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> searching
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> at
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > reader
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
>
> > he
> > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > and
> > > > went
> > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > ring.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > just
> > >
> > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> even
> > > > tried
> > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> he
> >
> > > > told
> > > > > me he was
> > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> cousin
> >
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> back
> > > and
> > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> apologized
> >
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> an
> > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> the
> >
> > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> the
> >
> > > > cold
> > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > told
> > > > him
> > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> off
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> have
> > > > become
> > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > divorce.
> > > > I
> > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > cousin's
> > >
> > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > email
> > >
> > > > him
> > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> his
> > > > cousin
> > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> > me
> > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > asked
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > man
> > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > house,
> > > >
> > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> can
> > > give
> > > >
> > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> into
> > > > better
> > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > this
> > >
> > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
>
> > .>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > friends!
> > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> the
> >
> > > > last
> > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> said
> > > 'ok
> > > > ok
> > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > keep
> > >
> > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > before,
> > > >
> > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> I
> >
> > > am
> > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
>
> > > this
> > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> had
> >
> > > > dated
> > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
>
> > > > someone
> > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> sitting
> > at
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > she
> > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > dating
> > >
> > > > for
> > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > couldn't
> > > > see
> > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
>
> > was
> > >
> > > > so
> > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > back
> > >
> > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> it
> > > gave
> > > >
> > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd
> > > > > share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > horrified
> > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> can't
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > either....when
> > >
> > > > you
> > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
>
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> me
> > of
> > >
> > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > Iranian,
> > > > and
> > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > remember
> > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> friend
> > > > while
> > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
>
> > > > family
> > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > from
> > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> from
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> became
> >
> > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > something
> > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > himself
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > the
> > > > kids
> > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> or
> >
> > > > talk
> > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> I
> >
> > > > went
> > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > talking
> > > >
> > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> to
> >
> > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > didn't
> > >
> > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> He
> >
> > > > could
> > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> then
> > > > asked
> > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> subject.
> > > > Okay,
> > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
>
> > on
> > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> would
> >
> > > > have
> > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> went
> >
> > > off
> > > >
> > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > But,
> > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> at
> > > one.
> > > >
> > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
>
> > > that
> > > > he
> > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> wanted
> >
> > > to
> > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> her
> > in
> > >
> > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> jist
> > of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > questions
> > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> game
> > > but
> > > > he
> > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > questions,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
>
> > > What
> > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> his
> >
> > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> (WHY
> >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
>
> > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > suggested
> > > > she
> > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> I
> > > told
> > > >
> > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> did
> > > not!
> > > >
> > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> either
> > > > ignore
> > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > actually
> > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > answers.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > deal.
> > > > > So, I
> > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> out
> >
> > > in
> > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
>
> > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> wouldn't
> >
> > > "do
> > > >
> > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
>
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > anything
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> He
> > > says
> > > >
> > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> given
> > > the
> > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > ignored.
> > > I
> > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > from
> > >
> > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
>
> > to
> > > > me,
> > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
>
> > > tell
> > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > start
> > >
> > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
>
> > had
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > bed
> > > > next
> > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
>
> > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > you
> > > > tell
> > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > more like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> have
> > to
> > >
> > > > get
> > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> was
> > > > trying
> > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > free
> > > > time
> > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> 1257
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
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#15125 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...making behavior ginateresawo...
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Angela,

I'm sorry, but I would call DHS on the parents and tell them what you've said here. It sounds like those children do not need to be with their parents. They may even give you custody!

It sounds like all hell's broke loose over there! Take care, and good luck to you and those babies!! My heart bleeds for them.....NO child deserves that kind of treatment......

Gina

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From: Angela <LV9@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...making behavior
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 5:56 PM

Hi all,

I am new to this list. I had just joined around the end of Sept.

However, my email address got messed up and I haven't

gotten all of my email since Sept 29th I just fixed it this

morning. I tried to post what was happening in my life

with my daughter who I believe is a Psychopath/ Narcissist.

And things just seemed to completely unravel with her again.

She borrowed my computer to do her emails for her homebased

business...however, what she did was to download confidential

files and try to use them to blackmail me and extort money for

her rent that was past due. This was the day after I paid her

180.00 phone bill. Well, the blackmail worked my husband

paid her rent 550.00 plus 75.00 late charge. The b/f's grandfather

paid $200.00. Well the b/f thanked me by called DCF and

filing false child abuse charges against me. The charge was

based on what my daughter told him that happened Halloween

night. It was an innocent accident involving my grandson and

me. He was running and collided into me. The b/f was angry

because no one told him that the grandfather gave 200.00.

which was the grandfather' s wishes. Because he had told him

he wasn't going to lend him anymore money. Later he told his

grandson. And the grandson flipped out on both my daughter

and me. And filed the false child abuse charges with his new

g/f across the street from my daughter's house. He also set fire

to her house as well. And called me up and tried to black mail

me with the same confidential files.

Now I can't see my grandkids. My grandson can't participate in

his soccer games which he waited to play since he was three

years old. His uncle played and he was so excited to be playing

and he was so good too. He scored 4 goals the last game. Just

when my two grandkids were settled in school and soccer and

dance now this. My granddaugher can't go to her dance classes

either. Her mom would never take them.

I have no idea what is happening. DCF has not arrested me...

which I didn't think they would have a case. I have not heard from my

daughter. My Narcissist adopted mother who has started her share

of division between my children and me. Told me that my daughter is

moving near her with the kids which has been her life's dream to get

my kids to hate me. She has accomplished this because she gives

them money and I do not. I don't have it to give anymore. I am in

debt. btw my adopted mother is a A. The b/f is an A as well.... big time

a. He gets drunk and violent and the police are called. He locked his

baby in the bathroom screaming while he past out in the bedroom.

My daughter is just unstable and dangerous. Two weeks ago she

threatened she was going to kill herself if i didn't help her. Her prior

b/f who is the two older kids dad is in prison for robbing houses...

mine in particular because of my husband's medication that he stole.

So now my grandkids are being raised by druggies, alcoholics and

emotionally unstable people. instead of learning soccer my grandson

will learn how to do drugs, drink and lead a criminal life. Hey if Dad

went to Jail it can't be that bad...right?

I am really worried about my grandkids I just hope and pray that they

are Ok. And I can eventually see them again after the thirty days

when the case is closed.

Thank you for listening to me. I appreciate you being here.

Blessings.

Angela

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#15124 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest donewithhim4...
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I don't think they understand squat; not in the way that "normal" people do.

Lyn

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From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Well, at least that's the worst you're getting from the N at this point. Why do they still call?? I never understood that with mine either. Don't they understand "F-OFF"???

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:46 PM

He calls but I don't answer. He showed up where I was with my friends Haloween night.....that' s about it.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn, I'm so sorry. That HAD to be so humiliating AND discouraging. Something was wrong with that judge, I tell ya!! He is no longer bothering you though, now....right? ??

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:46 PM

Me too!!!! I even took a court advocate with me. She was from SafeHome. She just shook her head in disbelief. I was a crying mess. I felt like such an idiot and of course n was smirking.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!! MAN, the law pisses me off sometime.... it's like you said....what the heck else do they need???? a bomb??? a bullet???? what jerks,.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM

The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door. Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house. He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense. If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing. He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here. On and on. I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need. Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???

I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed. We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.

Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

Wow that's great that you got one. I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety. My friends said I should report it. It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him. Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him. He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

Yes!!! Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Mine did that too! He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc

it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

Me too!!! I'm terrified! Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on. Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I second that, Lyn! I'm scared to death of them too! I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live. That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

That's true........ ..lol AS IF I would call any of them. I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me. I don't want any men to know my number or where I live. I'm scared to death of men now.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

Exactly, I don't know how many guys have given me their cards. I don't even wait to get home to trash them. I trash them as I go out the door. They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Me too, Lyn. I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them. I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast. I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again! I do not hand out my phone number either. I've had guys at bars ask me for my number. I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs. As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going to find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying. I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did that even before n! I guess some women do though. Sigh

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I'm with you there! I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either! I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner. I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

I'm laughing so hard lol. Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too. I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again. Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce. What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

They are so stupid and so desperate for attention! Mine said the same thing!! That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for women. Pitiful....

Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

I agree! They are so stupid, aren't they? I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times. He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it. Yeah, right. LOL. That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN. He also hit on it too. All he did was brag about himself. That's kinda how I found out who he really is....

So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL

G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later. Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!! Does that make me an n or just a smarter person? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N. Posing as someone else on the internet. I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> away when you ignore them.
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> >
> > saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
>
> > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > storm lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> that
> > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > >
> > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > because
> > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> sneezing.... ...yuk.
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> anything
> > > from
> > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > busting
> > > > ns lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > other
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
>
> > > feel
> > > > > she's competing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > the
> > > > curb
> > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > where
> > > I
> > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > Carolina.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> have
> >
> > > not
> > > >
> > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > support,
> > > >
> > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> need
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > stress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > those
> > >
> > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > men.
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> led
> > a
> > >
> > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > have
> > >
> > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
>
> > > good
> > > > at
> > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
>
> > be
> > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
>
> > > this
> > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > hope
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > should
> > > >
> > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> just
> > > > called
> > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> a
> > > > month
> > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
>
> > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> South
> > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > attraction
> > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
>
> > > long
> > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > advertising
> > > > when
> > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > ruined
> > > > him
> > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
>
> > > just
> > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> and
> >
> > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > around
> > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
>
> > > > living
> > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> some
> >
> > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Star
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
>
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> searching
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> at
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > reader
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
>
> > he
> > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > and
> > > > went
> > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > ring.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > just
> > >
> > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> even
> > > > tried
> > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> he
> >
> > > > told
> > > > > me he was
> > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> cousin
> >
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> back
> > > and
> > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> apologized
> >
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> an
> > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> the
> >
> > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> the
> >
> > > > cold
> > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > told
> > > > him
> > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> off
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> have
> > > > become
> > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > divorce.
> > > > I
> > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > cousin's
> > >
> > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > email
> > >
> > > > him
> > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> his
> > > > cousin
> > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> > me
> > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > asked
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > man
> > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > house,
> > > >
> > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> can
> > > give
> > > >
> > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> into
> > > > better
> > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > this
> > >
> > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
>
> > .>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > friends!
> > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> the
> >
> > > > last
> > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> said
> > > 'ok
> > > > ok
> > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > keep
> > >
> > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > before,
> > > >
> > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> I
> >
> > > am
> > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
>
> > > this
> > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> had
> >
> > > > dated
> > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
>
> > > > someone
> > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> sitting
> > at
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > she
> > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > dating
> > >
> > > > for
> > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > couldn't
> > > > see
> > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
>
> > was
> > >
> > > > so
> > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > back
> > >
> > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> it
> > > gave
> > > >
> > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd
> > > > > share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > horrified
> > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> can't
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > either....when
> > >
> > > > you
> > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
>
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> me
> > of
> > >
> > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > Iranian,
> > > > and
> > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > remember
> > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> friend
> > > > while
> > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
>
> > > > family
> > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > from
> > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> from
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> became
> >
> > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > something
> > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > himself
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > the
> > > > kids
> > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> or
> >
> > > > talk
> > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> I
> >
> > > > went
> > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > talking
> > > >
> > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> to
> >
> > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > didn't
> > >
> > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> He
> >
> > > > could
> > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> then
> > > > asked
> > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> subject.
> > > > Okay,
> > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
>
> > on
> > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> would
> >
> > > > have
> > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> went
> >
> > > off
> > > >
> > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > But,
> > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> at
> > > one.
> > > >
> > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
>
> > > that
> > > > he
> > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> wanted
> >
> > > to
> > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> her
> > in
> > >
> > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> jist
> > of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > questions
> > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> game
> > > but
> > > > he
> > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > questions,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
>
> > > What
> > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> his
> >
> > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> (WHY
> >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
>
> > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > suggested
> > > > she
> > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> I
> > > told
> > > >
> > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> did
> > > not!
> > > >
> > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> either
> > > > ignore
> > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > actually
> > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > answers.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > deal.
> > > > > So, I
> > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> out
> >
> > > in
> > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
>
> > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> wouldn't
> >
> > > "do
> > > >
> > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
>
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > anything
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> He
> > > says
> > > >
> > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> given
> > > the
> > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > ignored.
> > > I
> > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > from
> > >
> > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
>
> > to
> > > > me,
> > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
>
> > > tell
> > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > start
> > >
> > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
>
> > had
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > bed
> > > > next
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#15123 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:52 pm
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saba,

I need help to find my post on the board....so I can delete it....

Gina

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From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:43 PM

Gina and Lyn.

Do you use the website mail? If so, could you delete the post from there?

Saba.

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> I did delete my post. But those who responded, will also have to come on the site to delete their response.
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> > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to
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> > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please. I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago knowing i'm here.
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#15122 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:52 pm
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saba,

I'd be glad to if I could find it! I went to the board and there's so many pages and so many different topics to look under. I hardly ever visit the actual board, so where would I find it?

Sorry....Help....LOL

Gina

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:39 PM

No problem..... ..sorry I took so long to get it done.

Lyn

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To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 7:38 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post

thanks honey...



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> Do you use the website mail? If so, could you delete the post from there?

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> Saba.

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> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:

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> > I did delete my post. But those who responded, will also have to come on 

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> site to delete their response. 

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> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:

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> > > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to

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> > > then you click delete and then ok. 

> > > 

> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:

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> > > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please. 

> I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago 



> knowing i'm here. 

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#15121 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest ginateresawo...
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From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:46 PM

He calls but I don't answer. He showed up where I was with my friends Haloween night.....that' s about it.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn, I'm so sorry. That HAD to be so humiliating AND discouraging. Something was wrong with that judge, I tell ya!! He is no longer bothering you though, now....right? ??

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:46 PM

Me too!!!! I even took a court advocate with me. She was from SafeHome. She just shook her head in disbelief. I was a crying mess. I felt like such an idiot and of course n was smirking.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!! MAN, the law pisses me off sometime.... it's like you said....what the heck else do they need???? a bomb??? a bullet???? what jerks,.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM

The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door. Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house. He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense. If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing. He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here. On and on. I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need. Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???

I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed. We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.

Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

Wow that's great that you got one. I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety. My friends said I should report it. It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him. Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him. He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

Yes!!! Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Mine did that too! He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc

it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

Me too!!! I'm terrified! Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on. Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn

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From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I second that, Lyn! I'm scared to death of them too! I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live. That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

That's true........ ..lol AS IF I would call any of them. I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me. I don't want any men to know my number or where I live. I'm scared to death of men now.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

Exactly, I don't know how many guys have given me their cards. I don't even wait to get home to trash them. I trash them as I go out the door. They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Me too, Lyn. I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them. I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast. I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again! I do not hand out my phone number either. I've had guys at bars ask me for my number. I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs. As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going to find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying. I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did that even before n! I guess some women do though. Sigh

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I'm with you there! I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either! I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner. I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

I'm laughing so hard lol. Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too. I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again. Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce. What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

They are so stupid and so desperate for attention! Mine said the same thing!! That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for women. Pitiful....

Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

I agree! They are so stupid, aren't they? I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times. He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it. Yeah, right. LOL. That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN. He also hit on it too. All he did was brag about himself. That's kinda how I found out who he really is....

So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL

G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later. Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!! Does that make me an n or just a smarter person? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N. Posing as someone else on the internet. I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
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>
> Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
>
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> Lyn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> away when you ignore them.
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> >
> > saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
>
> > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > storm lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> that
> > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > >
> > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > because
> > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> sneezing.... ...yuk.
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> anything
> > > from
> > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > busting
> > > > ns lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > other
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
>
> > > feel
> > > > > she's competing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > the
> > > > curb
> > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > where
> > > I
> > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > Carolina.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> have
> >
> > > not
> > > >
> > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > support,
> > > >
> > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> need
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > stress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > those
> > >
> > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > men.
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> led
> > a
> > >
> > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > have
> > >
> > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
>
> > > good
> > > > at
> > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
>
> > be
> > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
>
> > > this
> > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > hope
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > should
> > > >
> > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> just
> > > > called
> > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> a
> > > > month
> > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
>
> > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> South
> > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > attraction
> > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
>
> > > long
> > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > advertising
> > > > when
> > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > ruined
> > > > him
> > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
>
> > > just
> > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> and
> >
> > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > around
> > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
>
> > > > living
> > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> some
> >
> > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
>
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> searching
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> at
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > reader
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
>
> > he
> > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > and
> > > > went
> > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > ring.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > just
> > >
> > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> even
> > > > tried
> > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> he
> >
> > > > told
> > > > > me he was
> > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> cousin
> >
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> back
> > > and
> > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> apologized
> >
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> an
> > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> the
> >
> > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> the
> >
> > > > cold
> > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > told
> > > > him
> > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> off
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> have
> > > > become
> > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > divorce.
> > > > I
> > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > cousin's
> > >
> > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > email
> > >
> > > > him
> > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> his
> > > > cousin
> > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> > me
> > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > asked
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > man
> > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > house,
> > > >
> > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> can
> > > give
> > > >
> > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> into
> > > > better
> > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > this
> > >
> > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
>
> > .>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > friends!
> > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> the
> >
> > > > last
> > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> said
> > > 'ok
> > > > ok
> > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > keep
> > >
> > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > before,
> > > >
> > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> I
> >
> > > am
> > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
>
> > > this
> > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> had
> >
> > > > dated
> > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
>
> > > > someone
> > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> sitting
> > at
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > she
> > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > dating
> > >
> > > > for
> > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > couldn't
> > > > see
> > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
>
> > was
> > >
> > > > so
> > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > back
> > >
> > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> it
> > > gave
> > > >
> > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd
> > > > > share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > horrified
> > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> can't
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > either....when
> > >
> > > > you
> > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
>
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> me
> > of
> > >
> > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > Iranian,
> > > > and
> > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > remember
> > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> friend
> > > > while
> > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
>
> > > > family
> > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > from
> > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> from
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> became
> >
> > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > something
> > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > himself
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > the
> > > > kids
> > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> or
> >
> > > > talk
> > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> I
> >
> > > > went
> > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > talking
> > > >
> > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> to
> >
> > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > didn't
> > >
> > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> He
> >
> > > > could
> > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> then
> > > > asked
> > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> subject.
> > > > Okay,
> > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
>
> > on
> > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> would
> >
> > > > have
> > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> went
> >
> > > off
> > > >
> > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > But,
> > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> at
> > > one.
> > > >
> > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
>
> > > that
> > > > he
> > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> wanted
> >
> > > to
> > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> her
> > in
> > >
> > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> jist
> > of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > questions
> > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> game
> > > but
> > > > he
> > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > questions,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
>
> > > What
> > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> his
> >
> > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> (WHY
> >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
>
> > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > suggested
> > > > she
> > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> I
> > > told
> > > >
> > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> did
> > > not!
> > > >
> > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> either
> > > > ignore
> > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > actually
> > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > answers.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > deal.
> > > > > So, I
> > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> out
> >
> > > in
> > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
>
> > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> wouldn't
> >
> > > "do
> > > >
> > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
>
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > anything
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> He
> > > says
> > > >
> > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> given
> > > the
> > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > ignored.
> > > I
> > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > from
> > >
> > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
>
> > to
> > > > me,
> > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
>
> > > tell
> > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > start
> > >
> > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
>
> > had
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > bed
> > > > next
> > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
>
> > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > you
> > > > tell
> > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > more like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> have
> > to
> > >
> > > > get
> > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> was
> > > > trying
> > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > free
> > > > time
> > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> 1257
> > > > > messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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#15120 From: cdnchange
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:50 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Stalkers cdnchange
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I dont think so either.  I think some will check up from time to time (I am
guessing) when they have about depleted current supply and haven't secured a
real good replacement yet.  That's why I dont show anything when the freak
resurfaces.  I might be a mess inside, but I dont need him thinking there might
be a way back in.  THE WAY IS CLOSED.




--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
wrote:
>
> No, I don't think all N's stalk either.  Some of them just use you up and
then drop you like a hot potato....
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Stalkers
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:11 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> No, just the "special" ones........ ..lol   Seriously, no they don't all do
it. 
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Stalkers
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#15119 From: cdnchange
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:15 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...making behavior cdnchange
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Hi Angela
What hell you have going on in your life! this boyfriend... has two girls on the
same street?  I am not really following the story line, but I gotta say, I got
the point of it, he is a loser and a creep.

What kind of files does she have that she is using against you?  That is the
first thing I would try to stop, as she will continue to use it as long as you
allow it.  What if you called her on that bullshit and upped the ante?  Like, I
am not giving you more money and I have looked into the blackmail aspect, did
you know that is a federal offense?  Dont think child services would like the
grandchildren living on the street.  Starting a house on fire ... that doesnt
sound like a safe neighborhood to me.  Then there is the police records of the
b/f, that has to shed some light on the actual trouble.  Honestly, I think it
sounds like YOU have a better case against her and the b/f for protective
services even if she has a place to live for another month.

I dont know, but I would be prepared to substantiate the above to the case
workers if you are questioned.  You have to take care of you first, so you can
be strong for your grandchildren.

Good luck and keep posting.


--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Angela" <LV9@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am new to this list.  I had just joined around the end of Sept.
> However, my email address got messed up and I haven't
> gotten all of my email since Sept 29th  I just fixed it this
> morning.  I tried to post what was happening in my life
> with my daughter who I believe is a Psychopath/ Narcissist.
> And things just seemed to completely unravel with her again.
>
> She borrowed my computer to do her emails for her homebased
> business...however, what she did was to download confidential
> files and try to use them to blackmail me and extort money for
> her rent that was past due.  This was the day after I paid her
> 180.00 phone bill.  Well, the blackmail worked my husband
> paid her rent 550.00 plus 75.00 late charge. The b/f's grandfather
> paid $200.00.  Well the b/f thanked me by called DCF and
> filing false child abuse charges against me.  The charge was
> based on what my daughter told him that happened Halloween
> night. It was an innocent accident involving my grandson and
> me.  He was running and collided into me. The b/f was angry
> because no one told him that the grandfather gave 200.00.
> which was the grandfather's wishes. Because he had told him
> he wasn't going to lend him anymore money. Later he told his
> grandson. And the grandson flipped out on both my daughter
> and me. And filed the false child abuse charges with his new
> g/f across the street from my daughter's house. He also set fire
> to her house as well.  And called me up and tried to black mail
> me with the same confidential files.
>
> Now I can't see my grandkids.  My grandson can't participate in
> his soccer games which he waited to play since he was three
> years old. His uncle played and he was so excited to be playing
> and he was so good too.  He scored 4 goals the last game. Just
> when my two grandkids were settled in school and soccer and
> dance now this. My granddaugher can't go to her dance classes
> either.  Her mom would never take them.
>
> I have no idea what is happening.  DCF has not arrested me...
> which I didn't think they would have a case.  I have not heard from my
> daughter.  My Narcissist adopted mother who has started her share
> of division between my children and me.  Told me that my daughter is
> moving near her with the kids which has been her life's dream to get
> my kids to hate me.  She has accomplished this because she gives
> them money and I do not.  I don't have it to give anymore. I am in
> debt. btw my adopted mother is a A.  The b/f is an A as well.... big time
> a.  He gets drunk and violent and the police are called. He locked his
> baby in the bathroom screaming while he past out in the bedroom.
> My daughter is just unstable and dangerous.  Two weeks ago she
> threatened she was going to kill herself if i didn't help her. Her prior
> b/f who is the two older kids dad is in prison for robbing houses...
> mine in particular because of my husband's medication that he stole.
>
> So now my grandkids are being raised by druggies, alcoholics and
> emotionally unstable people. instead of learning soccer my grandson
> will learn how to do drugs, drink and lead a criminal life. Hey if Dad
> went to Jail it can't be that bad...right?
>
> I am really worried about my grandkids I just hope and pray that they
> are Ok.  And I can eventually see them again after the thirty days
> when the case is closed.
>
> Thank you for listening to me.  I appreciate you being here.
> Blessings.
> Angela
>

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#15118 From: cdnchange
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:58 am
Subject: Re: my previous post cdnchange
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I hear this OFTEN from health care workers, "if you think you're crazy then you
have nothing to worry about.  it's the ones that think they arent that scare
us".  I USED to think they were joking.

I dont think you are the weird one if he is from 12yrs ago and STILL emailing
you without any replies.  BLOCK HIM or get rid of that account all together. 
Know what?  I think you are great!  I also think that if he is an N, he is by
default an ASS.

Sometimes Nspeak creeps into my thoughts, but I knock it out fast, in my own
way.  It isnt even something I have to say out loud, "You are an ass and all you
spew is crap."  It's kind of a reassurance that he doesnt matter and neither
does his BS;  Judge me all you want N but dont waste my time with it, cuz ONLY
my opinions matter to ME.

Sometimes I gotta push my self to think like I want to feel before I "believe
it."  That Nspeak was alot worse before I started to "fight" it.  I thought it
would go away with time, but it didnt.  And now I wonder why I thought it would,
nothing else about that relationship made sense, so it was kinda optimistic to
just "bounce" back from it like it was a "normal" breakup.  Geez, I had to learn
to stand up for myself, even in my own thoughts... so, like the health care
workers I know say, I have nothing to worry about  LOL

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#15117 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:46 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest donewithhim4...
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He calls but I don't answer. He showed up where I was with my friends Haloween night.....that's about it.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn, I'm so sorry. That HAD to be so humiliating AND discouraging. Something was wrong with that judge, I tell ya!! He is no longer bothering you though, now....right???

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:46 PM

Me too!!!! I even took a court advocate with me. She was from SafeHome. She just shook her head in disbelief. I was a crying mess. I felt like such an idiot and of course n was smirking.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!! MAN, the law pisses me off sometime.... it's like you said....what the heck else do they need???? a bomb??? a bullet???? what jerks,.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM

The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door. Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house. He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense. If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing. He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here. On and on. I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need. Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn

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From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???

I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed. We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.

Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

Wow that's great that you got one. I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety. My friends said I should report it. It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him. Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him. He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

Yes!!! Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Mine did that too! He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc

it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

Me too!!! I'm terrified! Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on. Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I second that, Lyn! I'm scared to death of them too! I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live. That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

That's true........ ..lol AS IF I would call any of them. I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me. I don't want any men to know my number or where I live. I'm scared to death of men now.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

Exactly, I don't know how many guys have given me their cards. I don't even wait to get home to trash them. I trash them as I go out the door. They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Me too, Lyn. I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them. I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast. I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again! I do not hand out my phone number either. I've had guys at bars ask me for my number. I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs. As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going to find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying. I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did that even before n! I guess some women do though. Sigh

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I'm with you there! I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either! I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner. I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....

Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

I'm laughing so hard lol. Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too. I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again. Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce. What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

They are so stupid and so desperate for attention! Mine said the same thing!! That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for women. Pitiful....

Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

I agree! They are so stupid, aren't they? I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times. He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it. Yeah, right. LOL. That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn,

I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN. He also hit on it too. All he did was brag about himself. That's kinda how I found out who he really is....

So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL

G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later. Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!! Does that make me an n or just a smarter person? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N. Posing as someone else on the internet. I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> away when you ignore them.
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> >
> > saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
>
> > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > storm lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> that
> > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > >
> > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > because
> > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> sneezing.... ...yuk.
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> anything
> > > from
> > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > busting
> > > > ns lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > other
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
>
> > > feel
> > > > > she's competing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > the
> > > > curb
> > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > where
> > > I
> > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > Carolina.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> have
> >
> > > not
> > > >
> > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > support,
> > > >
> > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> need
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > stress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > those
> > >
> > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > men.
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> led
> > a
> > >
> > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > have
> > >
> > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
>
> > > good
> > > > at
> > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
>
> > be
> > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
>
> > > this
> > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > hope
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > should
> > > >
> > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> just
> > > > called
> > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> a
> > > > month
> > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
>
> > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> South
> > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > attraction
> > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
>
> > > long
> > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > advertising
> > > > when
> > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > ruined
> > > > him
> > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
>
> > > just
> > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> and
> >
> > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > around
> > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
>
> > > > living
> > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> some
> >
> > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
>
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> searching
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> at
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > reader
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
>
> > he
> > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > and
> > > > went
> > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > ring.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > just
> > >
> > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> even
> > > > tried
> > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> he
> >
> > > > told
> > > > > me he was
> > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> cousin
> >
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> back
> > > and
> > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> apologized
> >
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> an
> > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> the
> >
> > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> the
> >
> > > > cold
> > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > told
> > > > him
> > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> off
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> have
> > > > become
> > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > divorce.
> > > > I
> > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > cousin's
> > >
> > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > email
> > >
> > > > him
> > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> his
> > > > cousin
> > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> > me
> > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > asked
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > man
> > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > house,
> > > >
> > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> can
> > > give
> > > >
> > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> into
> > > > better
> > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > this
> > >
> > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
>
> > .>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > friends!
> > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> the
> >
> > > > last
> > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> said
> > > 'ok
> > > > ok
> > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > keep
> > >
> > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > before,
> > > >
> > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> I
> >
> > > am
> > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
>
> > > this
> > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> had
> >
> > > > dated
> > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
>
> > > > someone
> > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> sitting
> > at
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > she
> > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > dating
> > >
> > > > for
> > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > couldn't
> > > > see
> > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
>
> > was
> > >
> > > > so
> > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > back
> > >
> > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> it
> > > gave
> > > >
> > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd
> > > > > share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > horrified
> > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> can't
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > either....when
> > >
> > > > you
> > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
>
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> me
> > of
> > >
> > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > Iranian,
> > > > and
> > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > remember
> > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> friend
> > > > while
> > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
>
> > > > family
> > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > from
> > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> from
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> became
> >
> > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > something
> > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > himself
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > the
> > > > kids
> > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> or
> >
> > > > talk
> > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> I
> >
> > > > went
> > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > talking
> > > >
> > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> to
> >
> > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > didn't
> > >
> > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> He
> >
> > > > could
> > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> then
> > > > asked
> > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> subject.
> > > > Okay,
> > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
>
> > on
> > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> would
> >
> > > > have
> > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> went
> >
> > > off
> > > >
> > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > But,
> > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> at
> > > one.
> > > >
> > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
>
> > > that
> > > > he
> > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> wanted
> >
> > > to
> > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> her
> > in
> > >
> > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> jist
> > of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > questions
> > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> game
> > > but
> > > > he
> > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > questions,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
>
> > > What
> > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> his
> >
> > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> (WHY
> >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
>
> > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > suggested
> > > > she
> > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> I
> > > told
> > > >
> > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> did
> > > not!
> > > >
> > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> either
> > > > ignore
> > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > actually
> > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > answers.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > deal.
> > > > > So, I
> > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> out
> >
> > > in
> > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
>
> > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> wouldn't
> >
> > > "do
> > > >
> > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
>
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > anything
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> He
> > > says
> > > >
> > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> given
> > > the
> > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > ignored.
> > > I
> > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > from
> > >
> > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
>
> > to
> > > > me,
> > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
>
> > > tell
> > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > start
> > >
> > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
>
> > had
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > bed
> > > > next
> > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
>
> > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > you
> > > > tell
> > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > more like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> have
> > to
> > >
> > > > get
> > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> was
> > > > trying
> > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > free
> > > > time
> > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> 1257
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
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#15116 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:39 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post donewithhim4...
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No problem.......sorry I took so long to get it done.

Lyn

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Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 7:38 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post

thanks honey...



--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, lyndieayn@... wrote:

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> 

> It's done!

> 

> 

> 

> Lyn

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>

> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 6:43 pm

> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Gina and Lyn.

> 

> Do you use the website mail? If so, could you delete the post from there?

> 

> Saba.

> 

> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > I did delete my post. But those who responded, will also have to come on 

the 

> site to delete their response. 

> > 

> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to

> > > the web site and then you click on it an open it and

> > > then you click delete and then ok. 

> > > 

> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please. 

> I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago 



> knowing i'm here. 

> > > > 

> > > > i am too scared right now...

> > > > 

> > > > saba.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> 

> 

> 

> 

> ------------------------------------

> 

> Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:

> 

> http://www.runboard.com/bnarcissisticabuserecovery

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>









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#15115 From: canadiansaba
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:38 am
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post canadiansaba
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thanks honey...

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, lyndieayn@... wrote:
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>  It's done!
>
>
>
> Lyn
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 6:43 pm
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gina and Lyn.
>
> Do you use the website mail?  If so, could you delete the post from there?
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I did delete my post.  But those who responded, will also have to come on
the
> site to delete their response.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to
> > > the web site and then you click on it an open it and
> > > then you click delete and then ok.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please.
> I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago
> knowing i'm here.
> > > >
> > > > i am too scared right now...
> > > >
> > > > saba.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
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#15114 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:17 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post donewithhim4...
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It's done!

Lyn

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Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 6:43 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: my previous post

Gina and Lyn.



Do you use the website mail? If so, could you delete the post from there?



Saba.



--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@...> wrote:

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> I did delete my post. But those who responded, will also have to come on the 

site to delete their response. 

> 

> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to

> > the web site and then you click on it an open it and

> > then you click delete and then ok. 

> > 

> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:

> > >

> > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please. 

I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago 

knowing i'm here. 

> > > 

> > > i am too scared right now...

> > > 

> > > saba.

> > >

> >

>









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#15113 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:13 am
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Ok I'll work on it now

Lyn

Gina and Lyn.



Do you use the website mail? If so, could you delete the post from there?



Saba.



--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@...> wrote:

>

> I did delete my post. But those who responded, will also have to come on the 

site to delete their response. 

> 

> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to

> > the web site and then you click on it an open it and

> > then you click delete and then ok. 

> > 

> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:

> > >

> > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please. 

I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago 

knowing i'm here. 

> > > 

> > > i am too scared right now...

> > > 

> > > saba.

> > >

> >

>









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#15112 From: canadiansaba
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:43 am
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Gina and Lyn.

Do you use the website mail?  If so, could you delete the post from there?

Saba.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I did delete my post.  But those who responded, will also have to come on the
site to delete their response.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to
> > the web site and then you click on it an open it and
> > then you click delete and then ok.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please. 
I'm scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago
knowing i'm here.
> > >
> > > i am too scared right now...
> > >
> > > saba.
> > >
> >
>

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#15111 From: "Angela" <LV9@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...making behavior onecarmelite
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