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#15096 From: canadiansaba
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Set-Up?
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It's hard to say.  He might be genuine in what he's planned?

It's unfortunate we have to question their good moods, and plans.  Just wait and
see?  Maybe it is good?

Saba.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> He has been really nice to me lately.  Too nice.  First, he tells me he wants
to do Thanksgiving with my side of the family "because we should alternate".  We
have been with his for 6 years straight.  Secondly, he agreed to go as a family
to Disney's Nemo on Ice.  Third, he says he is scheduling a surprise for me
during Christmas break.  He says it is something I have been wanting to see for
at least 3 years.  I told him I was scared that he had something planned that
wasn't going to be good and he laughed.
>
> What do you think?  Should I be scared or relax and give him the benefit of
the doubt?
>
> Anne
>

#15095 From: canadiansaba
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: my previous post
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I did delete my post.  But those who responded, will also have to come on the
site to delete their response.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> Saba. Only you can delete out your posts. You just go to
> the web site and then you click on it an open it and
> then you click delete and then ok.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please.  I'm
scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago
knowing i'm here.
> >
> > i am too scared right now...
> >
> > saba.
> >
>

#15094 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Set-Up?
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If his past behavior has included being nice followed with abuse....then I'd beware.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Set-Up?
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 2:08 PM

 
He has been really nice to me lately. Too nice. First, he tells me he wants to do Thanksgiving with my side of the family "because we should alternate". We have been with his for 6 years straight. Secondly, he agreed to go as a family to Disney's Nemo on Ice. Third, he says he is scheduling a surprise for me during Christmas break. He says it is something I have been wanting to see for at least 3 years. I told him I was scared that he had something planned that wasn't going to be good and he laughed.

What do you think? Should I be scared or relax and give him the benefit of the doubt?

Anne



#15093 From: marillaandmatthew
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:08 pm
Subject: Set-Up?
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He has been really nice to me lately.  Too nice.  First, he tells me he wants to
do Thanksgiving with my side of the family "because we should alternate".  We
have been with his for 6 years straight.  Secondly, he agreed to go as a family
to Disney's Nemo on Ice.  Third, he says he is scheduling a surprise for me
during Christmas break.  He says it is something I have been wanting to see for
at least 3 years.  I told him I was scared that he had something planned that
wasn't going to be good and he laughed.

What do you think?  Should I be scared or relax and give him the benefit of the
doubt?

Anne

#15092 From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR
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I didn't do anything just hoping today that it is fixed whatever it was!!


From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:01:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Star,
 
You're not alone!!  I have been having trouble with Yahoo mail for 2 days now!! It's not happening on any other thing, but yahoo's email.
 
Did you ever rectify the problem?
 
G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:47 PM

 
Ghost Ns probably

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: P & N Group <Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 4:15 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



I have been trying to answer one post forever and am having nothing but trouble.  It says my firefox isn't responding but it only does it in yahell!  I went to the website and had trouble there too so my mail and the website is giving me trouble.  Going to reboot and see if that helps!!!

Star








#15091 From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
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Hehe, sick people for sure!!!!!


From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 9:45:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....

Star, i don't know how i missed your post on the swingers!
LOL... i too learned that term in the worst of ways!
I was friends with a neighbor lady and her husband for around
6 months, she needled her way into my life fairly well by
that time.

Then all of a sudden they kept trying to get hubby and i to
go out to this bar with them. Hubby's kinda a cheapskate
when it comes to bars, he's like let's have party at home
and save a fortune. Anyway... we kept saying no until one
afternoon when we were having a bbque together and all
of a sudden they said they swing and would we like to as
well. I was like.... swingset swing? I said i liked to
swing but hadn't in years. Seemed a bit weird to me.
She smiled and called her husband over and said.. they
swing too. The look on her face and the tone in her voice
alerted me to something wasn't quite right. lol. I was like...
Wait a min... what is swing mean to you because it means
a swing set to me? She laughed and explained it and they had
always wanted us to swap...... EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW

She was so upset when we didn't have them over except when
a ton of other people were around! Just grossed me out
so badly! Hubby freaked... good little Catholic boy that
he is just never even dreamed people could do such a thing.
Much later i ended up laughing over his face for hours. I
think i must have looked as freaked as him... but it was
still funny!

i think they shattered my innocence. lol.

Bri

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...> wrote:
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> Too funny, Star!!  I'll bet that did freak you out!!  I've been approached by swinging couples before, so I'm familiar with the term.  I just don't see how anyone could be like that.  That's TOO open in my opinion!! 
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@...> wrote:
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> From: Star Light <stargazingforever@....>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week.....
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:32 PM
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> I use to get guys on Facebook wanting to be my friend but that stopped a long time ago.  Course when I first started I didn't have my profile set to private which I do now.  Funny story:
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> One time I was so wanting some women friends that I looked on MySpace for women that looked and sounded nice to be friends with.  I saw this one that looked like a plump grandmotherly type who was in the same town as me.  It also said something about swinging.... ......... ...now I am so naive!  I emailed her and she wrote back about all these sex parties and what they and men did, etc.  I was so appalled!  I told my daughter, as I was thinking swing dancing, haha, and she laughed her butt off saying, mom when they say anything about swinging it means swinging!  I deleted that email as fast as I could!!!  Scared the crap outta me!!  One time someone phished my account but that was the only thing I have had happen to me.  Facebook I haven't been on for very long.  My daughter set both of my accounts up so I could keep in touch and make friends.  I know everyone on my Facebook but that one lady and she was a Christian friend of a friend.
>
> Here's hoping you didn't jinx yourself!!!
>
> Hugs,
> Star
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:05:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
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> Me too, Star.  Luckily I don't get much solicitation on Facebook.  Occasionally, I will get some strange email from a guy wanting to "get to know" me.  I guess since myspace is free, some of the jerks have taken onto that one.  I even had a woman email me asking if I'd want to be her Master's Slave kind of thing!!  People are totally strange......
> Facebook?   have had no problems so far.  (just since I've typed this, watch something happen....knowing MY luck....LOL)
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> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups.. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:57 PM
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> I am on MySpace and Facebook too.  I know everyone on Facebook but one lady who is real nice and I know everyone on MySpace except for all the musicians.  Never had any virus from either one of them.  And I am picky on who I let be my friends.
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 9:18:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
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> So sorry, Bri.  I don't like religion crammed down my throat either.  I have a good relationship with God and I deal with that in my way.  In my past experiences as a child, I've found that there are many hypocryts in churches.  I was looked down upon because I wore pants as a teenager to church.  I wanted to cry and run out of there....they were new pants that I was proud of....until then.  Now, I attend a very small church....but not on a regular basis. 
>  
> As far as high school friends....usually you can't catch up that far.  I've learned that.  It's cool to see pics of their lives all grown with kids of their own....but you just can't go back and grasp the friendship that you had all those years ago....most of the time.
>  
> I'm on facebook and myspace but I'm very careful who I allow on there....
>
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
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> From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:49 PM
>
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>  
>
> Sorry i haven't been around as much, dealing with a few
> things. One major thing is a best friend i had from school
> contacted me this week. Found me through classmates.com and
> then asked me to find her on facebook... so i did. Now i am
> wondering if that was intelligent? I recently got rid of
> so many friends on there and have really weeded out the
> people in my life. She moved when i was 13 and in my hurt at
> her moving, i hurt her. Something she brought up and remembered.. .
> well... i wasn't in a good place when i was young. It felt
> like she was leaving me on purpose and i got hurtful, i was
> a child who wasn't coping well with the family i had.
>
> But now she also wants to be best friends and even lives
> in the same state i do and wants to get together. UGH.
> I could mention she's ubber religious to top it off and
> half of her emails (she's been sending me longer emails
> than what i post on here!!!) are about God, Jesus and
> her beliefs or how He is moving in her life. I have a
> very good relationship with God but i don't like religion
> crammed down my throat. Especially on days like today when
> a storm is brewing out in the gulf and my hip throbs in
> pain to it or something. Woke up so sore i couldn't take it
> and actually had to stoop to taking about of pain meds. ICK!
>
> I thought it would be fun catching up a little... but i
> really don't want another best friend. I don't really
> want to get to know her this much... she says she has
> always thought of me as her long lost sister!?! I am
> worried a little. I have fond memories of her, but i
> wouldn't go so far as to ever thinking about locating
> her. She remembers we were best friends, i remember
> us as friends only. I remember having a few best friends
> from back then, two of which are still my best friends to
> this day. I feel like an ass though, for not remembering
> her in the same way.
>
> I think i hate classmates.com and Facebook! All i get is
> a ton of people who remember me and i don't remember them!
> One girl said she was a close friend through jr. high
> and now thinks it's funny as i married a man with the
> same last name as her maiden name. Isn't that funny?
> Uh.. i was like.. who are you? I had to ask my one best
> friend and she was like.. she used to hang out with us
> all the tiem. I have no recollection of her... or many of
> the people i went to school with. I'm sorry, but i don't.
> I remember those most important to me and i do remember
> this new chick... but not in the levels that she does and i
> feel like i must be a bad person over it all.
>
> My husband remembers the siblings of the people he went to
> school with, even if they weren't that much of friends! I can't
> remember the people i was friends with, let alone their
> siblings!!!!
>
> I feel like i stepped in it now. I'm working on handling it
> but i don't know how to handle it really yet either.
>
> Bri
>




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#15090 From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR
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Ok seriously here, you don't sound ready sweetie!  I know I wouldn't do it.  But if you do......Panera is my fav for bread, love the tomato basil bread, yummy!  Ok, you sound like you want to talk your way out of this.  My professional opinion..haha................wait!  When it is right you will know it!

Hugs,
Star


From: "lyndieayn@..." <lyndieayn@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 8:06:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Yeah......come with me please?  I'm supposed to call him.....I can do that by blocking my #.  Oh, God, I hate calling men though.  He just wants to meet for coffee or whatever I choose.  Coffee would be fine with me.  He mentioned Panera's which is right down the street from me.  He works 3 jobs! so his schedule is tight.  I dunno.  I think it would be good for me on the one hand; I have to move forward at some point.  BUT I don't want a "relationship"........just friends for now and most men don't want that.  Too bad.......I'm far from wanting a relationship.  On the other hand.....I don't know if I can do this. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:16 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



*big smile*  I would love to go with!! hehe  Think he would mind?  LOL  I wouldn't want you to be scared by yourself!  Don't rush anything!

Get outta here you big N, and quit messin' with our posting!!!!!!  *looking around*  Did he leave?  He better have!!!!!  LMBO!

Hugs,
Star




From: "lyndieayn@..." <lyndieayn@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 9:42:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



I still say there as to be an n at the bottom of this.  He's plotting against us lol...they don't want us to have friends or too much fun.  Hey, I snagged a couple of fish on POF..........one looks pretty kewl.......he's a teacher in Olathe, has horses, is tall, handsome.......but ewwwwwwww I'm scared.  He wants to meet me!!!!!!!!!  Yikes!  Mommy, go with?????  LOL

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Me too again!  Stupid thing!!!!!!!!  This is the worse that it has ever been!


From: "lyndieayn@..." <lyndieayn@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 7:50:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Now I'm having problems!!!!1

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Hahaha!  The last reply I sent said yahell blocked me and to try again in an hour or two and I sent it again and it went.  geez!


From: "lyndieayn@..." <lyndieayn@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:47:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Ghost Ns probably

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
To: P & N Group <Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 4:15 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



I have been trying to answer one post forever and am having nothing but trouble.  It says my firefox isn't responding but it only does it in yahell!  I went to the website and had trouble there too so my mail and the website is giving me trouble.  Going to reboot and see if that helps!!!

Star






















#15089 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR
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Hey, I haven't been able to send or read many emails without yahoo "Not Responding"!!!
They suck.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:50 PM

 
Now I'm having problems!!!! 1

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Hahaha!  The last reply I sent said yahell blocked me and to try again in an hour or two and I sent it again and it went.  geez!


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:47:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



Ghost Ns probably

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: P & N Group <Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 4:15 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



I have been trying to answer one post forever and am having nothing but trouble.  It says my firefox isn't responding but it only does it in yahell!  I went to the website and had trouble there too so my mail and the website is giving me trouble.  Going to reboot and see if that helps!!!

Star










#15088 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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Lyn, I'm so sorry.  That HAD to be so humiliating AND discouraging.  Something was wrong with that judge, I tell ya!!  He is no longer bothering you though, now....right???

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:46 PM

 
Me too!!!!  I even took a court advocate with me.  She was from SafeHome.  She just shook her head in disbelief.  I was a crying mess.  I felt like such an idiot and of course n was smirking.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!!   MAN, the law pisses me off sometime.... it's like you said....what the heck else do they need????  a bomb??? a bullet????   what jerks,.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM

 
The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door.  Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house.  He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense.  If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing.  He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here.  On and on.  I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need.  Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???
I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed.  We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.
Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

 
Wow that's great that you got one.  I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety.  My friends said I should report it.  It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him.  Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him.  He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

 
Yes!!!  Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Mine did that too!  He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc
it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

 
Me too!!!  I'm terrified!  Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on.  Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I second that, Lyn!  I'm scared to death of them too!  I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live.  That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

 
That's true........ ..lol  AS IF I would call any of them.  I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me.  I don't want any men to know my number or where I live.  I'm scared to death of men now. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
Exactly,  I don't know how many guys have given me their cards.  I don't even wait to get home to trash them.  I trash them as I go out the door.  They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Me too, Lyn.  I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them.  I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast.  I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again!  I do not hand out my phone number either.  I've had guys at bars ask me for my number.  I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs.  As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL   That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

 
I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites.  How else are they going to find victims?  I'm so done with it.  I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying.  I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number!  I never did that even before n!  I guess some women do though.  Sigh

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I'm with you there!  I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either!  I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner.  I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

 
I'm laughing so hard lol.  Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too.  I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again.  Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would.  So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't. 

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites.  He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library.  What a dunce.  What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



They are so stupid and so desperate for attention!  Mine said the same thing!!  That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life.  He lives in front of the computer searching for women.  Pitiful....
Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

 
I agree!  They are so stupid, aren't they?  I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times.  He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it.  Yeah, right. LOL.  That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.
Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN.  He also hit on it too.  All he did was brag about himself.  That's kinda how I found out who he really is....
 
So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL
 
G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

 
LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later.  Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!!  Does that make me an n or just a smarter person?  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N.  Posing as someone else on the internet.  I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

 
Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> away when you ignore them.
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> >
> > saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
>
> > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > storm lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> that
> > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > >
> > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > because
> > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> sneezing.... ...yuk.
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> anything
> > > from
> > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > busting
> > > > ns lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > other
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
>
> > > feel
> > > > > she's competing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > the
> > > > curb
> > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > where
> > > I
> > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > Carolina.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> have
> >
> > > not
> > > >
> > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > support,
> > > >
> > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> need
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > stress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > those
> > >
> > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > men.
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> led
> > a
> > >
> > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > have
> > >
> > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
>
> > > good
> > > > at
> > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
>
> > be
> > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
>
> > > this
> > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > hope
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > should
> > > >
> > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> just
> > > > called
> > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> a
> > > > month
> > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
>
> > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> South
> > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > attraction
> > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
>
> > > long
> > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > advertising
> > > > when
> > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > ruined
> > > > him
> > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
>
> > > just
> > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> and
> >
> > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > around
> > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
>
> > > > living
> > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> some
> >
> > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
>
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> searching
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> at
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > reader
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
>
> > he
> > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > and
> > > > went
> > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > ring.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > just
> > >
> > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> even
> > > > tried
> > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> he
> >
> > > > told
> > > > > me he was
> > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> cousin
> >
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> back
> > > and
> > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> apologized
> >
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> an
> > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> the
> >
> > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> the
> >
> > > > cold
> > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > told
> > > > him
> > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> off
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> have
> > > > become
> > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > divorce.
> > > > I
> > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > cousin's
> > >
> > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > email
> > >
> > > > him
> > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> his
> > > > cousin
> > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> > me
> > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > asked
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > man
> > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > house,
> > > >
> > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> can
> > > give
> > > >
> > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> into
> > > > better
> > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > this
> > >
> > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
>
> > .>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > friends!
> > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> the
> >
> > > > last
> > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> said
> > > 'ok
> > > > ok
> > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > keep
> > >
> > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > before,
> > > >
> > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> I
> >
> > > am
> > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
>
> > > this
> > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> had
> >
> > > > dated
> > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
>
> > > > someone
> > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> sitting
> > at
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > she
> > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > dating
> > >
> > > > for
> > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > couldn't
> > > > see
> > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
>
> > was
> > >
> > > > so
> > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > back
> > >
> > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> it
> > > gave
> > > >
> > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd
> > > > > share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > horrified
> > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> can't
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > either....when
> > >
> > > > you
> > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
>
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> me
> > of
> > >
> > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > Iranian,
> > > > and
> > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > remember
> > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> friend
> > > > while
> > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
>
> > > > family
> > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > from
> > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> from
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> became
> >
> > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > something
> > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > himself
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > the
> > > > kids
> > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> or
> >
> > > > talk
> > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> I
> >
> > > > went
> > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > talking
> > > >
> > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> to
> >
> > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > didn't
> > >
> > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> He
> >
> > > > could
> > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> then
> > > > asked
> > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> subject.
> > > > Okay,
> > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
>
> > on
> > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> would
> >
> > > > have
> > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> went
> >
> > > off
> > > >
> > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > But,
> > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> at
> > > one.
> > > >
> > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
>
> > > that
> > > > he
> > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> wanted
> >
> > > to
> > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> her
> > in
> > >
> > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> jist
> > of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > questions
> > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> game
> > > but
> > > > he
> > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > questions,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
>
> > > What
> > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> his
> >
> > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> (WHY
> >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
>
> > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > suggested
> > > > she
> > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> I
> > > told
> > > >
> > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> did
> > > not!
> > > >
> > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> either
> > > > ignore
> > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > actually
> > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > answers.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > deal.
> > > > > So, I
> > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> out
> >
> > > in
> > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
>
> > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> wouldn't
> >
> > > "do
> > > >
> > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
>
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > anything
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> He
> > > says
> > > >
> > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> given
> > > the
> > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > ignored.
> > > I
> > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > from
> > >
> > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
>
> > to
> > > > me,
> > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
>
> > > tell
> > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > start
> > >
> > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
>
> > had
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > bed
> > > > next
> > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
>
> > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > you
> > > > tell
> > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > more like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> have
> > to
> > >
> > > > get
> > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> was
> > > > trying
> > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > free
> > > > time
> > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> 1257
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
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#15086 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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Me too!!!!  I even took a court advocate with me.  She was from SafeHome.  She just shook her head in disbelief.  I was a crying mess.  I felt like such an idiot and of course n was smirking.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!!   MAN, the law pisses me off sometime....it's like you said....what the heck else do they need????  a bomb??? a bullet????   what jerks,.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM

 
The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door.  Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house.  He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense.  If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing.  He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here.  On and on.  I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need.  Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???
I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed.  We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.
Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

 
Wow that's great that you got one.  I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety.  My friends said I should report it.  It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him.  Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him.  He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

 
Yes!!!  Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Mine did that too!  He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc
it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

 
Me too!!!  I'm terrified!  Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on.  Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I second that, Lyn!  I'm scared to death of them too!  I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live.  That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

 
That's true........ ..lol  AS IF I would call any of them.  I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me.  I don't want any men to know my number or where I live.  I'm scared to death of men now. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
Exactly,  I don't know how many guys have given me their cards.  I don't even wait to get home to trash them.  I trash them as I go out the door.  They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Me too, Lyn.  I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them.  I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast.  I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again!  I do not hand out my phone number either.  I've had guys at bars ask me for my number.  I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs.  As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL   That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

 
I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites.  How else are they going to find victims?  I'm so done with it.  I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying.  I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number!  I never did that even before n!  I guess some women do though.  Sigh

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I'm with you there!  I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either!  I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner.  I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

 
I'm laughing so hard lol.  Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too.  I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again.  Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would.  So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't. 

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites.  He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library.  What a dunce.  What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



They are so stupid and so desperate for attention!  Mine said the same thing!!  That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life.  He lives in front of the computer searching for women.  Pitiful....
Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

 
I agree!  They are so stupid, aren't they?  I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times.  He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it.  Yeah, right. LOL.  That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.
Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN.  He also hit on it too.  All he did was brag about himself.  That's kinda how I found out who he really is....
 
So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL
 
G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

 
LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later.  Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!!  Does that make me an n or just a smarter person?  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N.  Posing as someone else on the internet.  I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

 
Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
>
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> That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> away when you ignore them.
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> >
> > saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
>
> > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > storm lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> that
> > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > >
> > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > because
> > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> sneezing.... ...yuk.
> >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> chest
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> anything
> > > from
> > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > busting
> > > > ns lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
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> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
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> > > > >
> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > other
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
>
> > > feel
> > > > > she's competing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > the
> > > > curb
> > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > where
> > > I
> > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > Carolina.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> have
> >
> > > not
> > > >
> > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > support,
> > > >
> > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> need
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > stress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > those
> > >
> > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
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> > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > men.
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> led
> > a
> > >
> > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > have
> > >
> > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
>
> > > good
> > > > at
> > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
>
> > be
> > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
>
> > > this
> > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > hope
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > should
> > > >
> > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> just
> > > > called
> > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> a
> > > > month
> > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
>
> > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> South
> > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > attraction
> > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
>
> > > long
> > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > advertising
> > > > when
> > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > ruined
> > > > him
> > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
>
> > > just
> > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> and
> >
> > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > around
> > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
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> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
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> > my
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> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
>
> > > > living
> > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> some
> >
> > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Hugs,
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> > > > > > Star
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> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
>
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> searching
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> at
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > reader
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
>
> > he
> > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > and
> > > > went
> > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > ring.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > just
> > >
> > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> even
> > > > tried
> > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> he
> >
> > > > told
> > > > > me he was
> > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> cousin
> >
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> back
> > > and
> > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> apologized
> >
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> an
> > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> the
> >
> > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> the
> >
> > > > cold
> > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > told
> > > > him
> > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> off
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> have
> > > > become
> > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > divorce.
> > > > I
> > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > cousin's
> > >
> > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > email
> > >
> > > > him
> > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> his
> > > > cousin
> > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> > me
> > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > asked
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > man
> > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > house,
> > > >
> > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> can
> > > give
> > > >
> > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> into
> > > > better
> > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > this
> > >
> > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
>
> > .>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > friends!
> > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> the
> >
> > > > last
> > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> said
> > > 'ok
> > > > ok
> > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > keep
> > >
> > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > before,
> > > >
> > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> I
> >
> > > am
> > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
>
> > > this
> > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> had
> >
> > > > dated
> > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
>
> > > > someone
> > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> sitting
> > at
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > she
> > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > dating
> > >
> > > > for
> > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > couldn't
> > > > see
> > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
>
> > was
> > >
> > > > so
> > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > back
> > >
> > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> it
> > > gave
> > > >
> > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd
> > > > > share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > horrified
> > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> can't
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > either....when
> > >
> > > > you
> > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
>
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> me
> > of
> > >
> > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > Iranian,
> > > > and
> > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > remember
> > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> friend
> > > > while
> > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
>
> > > > family
> > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > from
> > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> from
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> became
> >
> > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > something
> > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > himself
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > the
> > > > kids
> > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> or
> >
> > > > talk
> > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> I
> >
> > > > went
> > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > talking
> > > >
> > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> to
> >
> > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > didn't
> > >
> > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> He
> >
> > > > could
> > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> then
> > > > asked
> > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> subject.
> > > > Okay,
> > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
>
> > on
> > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> would
> >
> > > > have
> > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> went
> >
> > > off
> > > >
> > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > But,
> > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> at
> > > one.
> > > >
> > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
>
> > > that
> > > > he
> > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> wanted
> >
> > > to
> > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> her
> > in
> > >
> > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> jist
> > of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > questions
> > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> game
> > > but
> > > > he
> > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > questions,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
>
> > > What
> > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> his
> >
> > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> (WHY
> >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
>
> > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > suggested
> > > > she
> > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> I
> > > told
> > > >
> > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> did
> > > not!
> > > >
> > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> either
> > > > ignore
> > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > actually
> > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > answers.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > deal.
> > > > > So, I
> > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> out
> >
> > > in
> > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
>
> > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> wouldn't
> >
> > > "do
> > > >
> > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
>
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > anything
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> He
> > > says
> > > >
> > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> given
> > > the
> > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > ignored.
> > > I
> > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > from
> > >
> > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
>
> > to
> > > > me,
> > > > > grabbed
> > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
>
> > > tell
> > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > start
> > >
> > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
>
> > had
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > bed
> > > > next
> > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
>
> > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > you
> > > > tell
> > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > more like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> have
> > to
> > >
> > > > get
> > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> was
> > > > trying
> > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > free
> > > > time
> > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> 1257
> > > > > messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > >
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#15085 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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I think that testimony should have been MORE than enough.....who knows....maybe that freakin lousy judge was a male shovanist N too!!   MAN, the law pisses me off sometime....it's like you said....what the heck else do they need????  a bomb??? a bullet????   what jerks,.....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:37 AM

 
The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence.... ....even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door.  Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house.  He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense.  If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing.  He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here.  On and on.  I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need.  Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???
I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed.  We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.
Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

 
Wow that's great that you got one.  I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety.  My friends said I should report it.  It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him.  Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him.  He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

 
Yes!!!  Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Mine did that too!  He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc
it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

 
Me too!!!  I'm terrified!  Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on.  Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I second that, Lyn!  I'm scared to death of them too!  I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live.  That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

 
That's true........ ..lol  AS IF I would call any of them.  I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me.  I don't want any men to know my number or where I live.  I'm scared to death of men now. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
Exactly,  I don't know how many guys have given me their cards.  I don't even wait to get home to trash them.  I trash them as I go out the door.  They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Me too, Lyn.  I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them.  I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast.  I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again!  I do not hand out my phone number either.  I've had guys at bars ask me for my number.  I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs.  As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL   That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

 
I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites.  How else are they going to find victims?  I'm so done with it.  I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying.  I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number!  I never did that even before n!  I guess some women do though.  Sigh

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I'm with you there!  I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either!  I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner.  I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

 
I'm laughing so hard lol.  Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too.  I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again.  Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would.  So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't. 

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites.  He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library.  What a dunce.  What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



They are so stupid and so desperate for attention!  Mine said the same thing!!  That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life.  He lives in front of the computer searching for women.  Pitiful....
Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

 
I agree!  They are so stupid, aren't they?  I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times.  He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it.  Yeah, right. LOL.  That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.
Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN.  He also hit on it too.  All he did was brag about himself.  That's kinda how I found out who he really is....
 
So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL
 
G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

 
LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later.  Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!!  Does that make me an n or just a smarter person?  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N.  Posing as someone else on the internet.  I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

 
Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
>
>
>
> Lyn
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> away when you ignore them.
>
> Saba.
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard anything all day......... so hope they
> are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> >
> > saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
>
> > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > storm lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> that
> > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > >
> > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > because
> > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> sneezing.... ...yuk.
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> anything
> > > from
> > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > busting
> > > > ns lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > other
> > > by
> > > >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
>
> > > feel
> > > > > she's competing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > the
> > > > curb
> > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > where
> > > I
> > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > Carolina.
> > >
> > > > The
> > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> have
> >
> > > not
> > > >
> > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > support,
> > > >
> > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> need
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > stress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> > those
> > >
> > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > men.
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> led
> > a
> > >
> > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > have
> > >
> > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
>
> > > good
> > > > at
> > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
>
> > be
> > > > > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
>
> > > this
> > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > hope
> > >
> > > > he
> > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > should
> > > >
> > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> just
> > > > called
> > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> a
> > > > month
> > > > > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
>
> > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> South
> > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > attraction
> > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
>
> > > long
> > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > advertising
> > > > when
> > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > ruined
> > > > him
> > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
>
> > > just
> > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> and
> >
> > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > around
> > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> off
> > my
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
>
> > > > living
> > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> some
> >
> > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Star
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
>
> > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> searching
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> at
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > reader
> > >
> > > > if
> > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
>
> > he
> > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > and
> > > > went
> > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > ring.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > just
> > >
> > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> even
> > > > tried
> > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> he
> >
> > > > told
> > > > > me he was
> > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> cousin
> >
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> back
> > > and
> > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> apologized
> >
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> an
> > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> the
> >
> > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> the
> >
> > > > cold
> > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> in
> > > > touch
> > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > told
> > > > him
> > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> off
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > have
> > >
> > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > told
> > > me
> > > >
> > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> have
> > > > become
> > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > divorce.
> > > > I
> > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > cousin's
> > >
> > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > email
> > >
> > > > him
> > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> his
> > > > cousin
> > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> > me
> > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > asked
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > man
> > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > house,
> > > >
> > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> can
> > > give
> > > >
> > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> into
> > > > better
> > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
> > this
> > >
> > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
>
> > .>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > friends!
> > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> the
> >
> > > > last
> > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> said
> > > 'ok
> > > > ok
> > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > keep
> > >
> > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > before,
> > > >
> > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> I
> >
> > > am
> > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
>
> > > this
> > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> had
> >
> > > > dated
> > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
>
> > > > someone
> > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> sitting
> > at
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > she
> > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > dating
> > >
> > > > for
> > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > couldn't
> > > > see
> > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
>
> > was
> > >
> > > > so
> > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > back
> > >
> > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> it
> > > gave
> > > >
> > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > thought
> > > > I'd
> > > > > share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > horrified
> > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> can't
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > either....when
> > >
> > > > you
> > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
>
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> me
> > of
> > >
> > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > Iranian,
> > > > and
> > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > remember
> > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> friend
> > > > while
> > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
>
> > > > family
> > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > from
> > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> from
> >
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> became
> >
> > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > something
> > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > himself
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > the
> > > > kids
> > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> or
> >
> > > > talk
> > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> I
> >
> > > > went
> > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > talking
> > > >
> > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> to
> >
> > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > didn't
> > >
> > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> He
> >
> > > > could
> > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> then
> > > > asked
> > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> subject.
> > > > Okay,
> > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
>
> > on
> > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> would
> >
> > > > have
> > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> went
> >
> > > off
> > > >
> > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > But,
> > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> at
> > > one.
> > > >
> > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
>
> > > that
> > > > he
> > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> wanted
> >
> > > to
> > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> her
> > in
> > >
> > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> jist
> > of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > questions
> > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> game
> > > but
> > > > he
> > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > questions,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
>
> > > What
> > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> his
> >
> > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> (WHY
> >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
>
> > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > suggested
> > > > she
> > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> I
> > > told
> > > >
> > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> did
> > > not!
> > > >
> > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> either
> > > > ignore
> > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > actually
> > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > answers.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big
> > > deal.
> > > > > So, I
> > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> out
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > free
> > > > time
> > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
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#15084 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
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Bri,
 
Poor you....the guy started to CRY???   I'm like you, I don't remember people too well after they've been out of my life for so long.  I mean, we've all changed so much in appearance since high school....gosh!! 
 
I did correct my myspace after that lady incident...LOL....
 
Gina

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 9:19 AM

 
Thanks Gina :) I start feeling so low as people tend to get so
upset with me when i don't remember them. Many years ago now
i once ran into a guy who was so excited to see me and i
didn't know who he was. i asked his name but the name did
nothing for me either... he started to freaking cry because
i didn't remember him. I can't get the imagine out of my head
nor will it leave me alone.

Makes me feel mean for not remembering them, not like i have
a choice about it though. Close friends i remember, i'll
remember most of you guys 10 years down the road! But
many others i meet just don't stick with me. I don't know
why. I should just leave it alone. Internet makes it sooo
hard as so many look ya up and stuff. It isn't easy to
find me through Facebook or Myspace but they find me through
mutual people we knew in school. One of those friends
networks all the old classmates but she's also one of
my oldest and dearest friends.... so hate to throw her off
just because everyone finds me through her.

Bri

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...> wrote:
>
> Bri,
>  
> I know what you mean about not remembering some of the friends you hung out with years ago.  I have a knack for blocking out certain things in my life and some people from high school....I just don't remember.... just cause.  My sister was killed when I was 11 and I can NOT for the life of me remember much about the funeral.  I can NEVER remember how to get to the cemetary where she is buried....along with my other sister who died as an infant.
>  
> I believe people come in and out of your life for a reason.  Obviously, you made a difference to some of those people that you have forgotten.  Therefore, your paths crossed for something THEY needed.  Don't feel bad....feel honored that they have held on to your memories for so long.  You gave something to them that they look upon positively.  Whether YOU remember or not....isn't important... .because whatever it is you did back then....meant the world to THEM. 
>  
> Sooooo.....don' t feel like an ass.  You're making a difference for me too!  I really enjoy reading your posts....you have NO idea.....
>  
> Gina
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
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> From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:46 PM
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> Gina, that stinks that you had such an experience in church!
> Hubby likes to go to church and i am fine with it so we go
> to his as i don't have one. I wear shorts and a decent top. lol.
> I'm a little bit of a beach bum and i don't wear pants if
> i don't absolutely have too, and the only time i think i have
> too is when it's cold out. Living in southern Florida, not
> that often thank goodness! Hubby used to get upset at me but
> i told him he had two choices. Leave me at home, or accept
> it. Church shouldn't be about the clothing in my opinion
> and if someone wants to judge me on my clothing, then it
> helps me weed them out right away. :) I have the nice business
> suits, nice dresses and all that crap for our company.
> I wear that sort of stuff when we go to the big conventions
> and crap. But not if i don't have too. I figure God doesn't
> care what i wear and if He doesn't.. than no one else should!
>
> My biggest problem with old school mates is that they
> all loved me. I was the best friend they ever had....
> and i really honestly remember so few of them. They
> talk about something we did as the best times of their
> life and i can't even remember the thing at all.
>
> My life has moved on and honestly... every year of my life
> has been better and more fun than the last.. ok almost every
> year. I've moved around a lot and had a ton of friends in
> different places and i my childhood wasn't good for me.
> I worked through most of it and then left it behind me.
> I remember the turmoil not making certain everyone was
> having the time of their life.
>
> I had two lives really back then. One that i allowed around
> my family and the other that i did not. Those few i did
> not were my deepest and truest friends and a few of them
> i still have to this day. They lived in hells of their
> own growing up and we shared that. These other friends
> all thought my life was so perfect and great. They thought
> my family was great and have such fond memories of it all.
> My dad was nice because he allowed parties at the house,
> allowed for kids to spend the night and allowed people
> to eat over whenever they wanted too. Yeah, my dad didn't
> care one way or the other. he wasn't nice, he just wasn't
> there emotionally. He didn't care enough to be involved in
> the life we were living. My mom is a wonderful actress and
> most do believe she's a wonderful person, especially those
> that had shorter spans in our lives. Those she also felt
> weren't up to par with her and didn't bother to have
> friendships with also ended up being left with great memories
> of her. My mom can be the most wonderful woman you have
> ever met. She can be intelligent, witty and quite charming.
> She can suck you in quite well and if she so chooses can
> keep you distant enough to never get burned. The ones she
> feels worthy..... those are the ones she destroys.
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> Half of my life back then was spent keeping kids and adults
> away from my mother. Making sure my mom would know things
> about these people to make them seem unworthy of her full
> attention.
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> And then after they tell me how wonderful i made life and
> that their best memories are from that time, i get the
> speech of how badly i hurt them when i cut them out of
> my life. I often threw out those i felt got too close to
> knowing my real life. I am sorry that they were so hurt,
> and i feel awful for not remembering them all... but i
> had my own hell to deal with. I don't know. I feel like
> an ass no matter what. Each person who finds me brings
> another reason to reflect upon how i hurt people.
>
> I'm certain in 20 years those friends i threw out recently
> will come back to haunt me too. I probably won't remember
> them worth a crap either, people fade away when i remove
> them from my life. There are friends i'll never forget and
> then there were the hanger oners. I didn't dislike them...
> i liked many.. but i don't know how to explain it...
> Making me feel like i am a horrible person to have forgotten
> them all.
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> I try to explain i moved to another state when i was 16 and
> started an entirely new life and had just as many "friends"
> there as i did back in the home state. Then i moved back
> to the home state and got an entirely new set of friends
> all over again, then moved to another state and got an
> entire new set of friends there too. Each was a step for
> me, leaving a little bit behind and being more me in life.
> Leaving the old and ringing in the real.
>
> I don't know.... It is so darned easy to feel like a bad
> person when you've been abused. That's all i know for certain!
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...> wrote:
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> > So sorry, Bri.  I don't like religion crammed down my throat either.  I have a good relationship with God and I deal with that in my way.  In my past experiences as a child, I've found that there are many hypocryts in churches.  I was looked down upon because I wore pants as a teenager to church.  I wanted to cry and run out of there....they were new pants that I was proud of....until then.  Now, I attend a very small church....but not on a regular basis. 
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> > As far as high school friends....usually you can't catch up that far.  I've learned that.  It's cool to see pics of their lives all grown with kids of their own....but you just can't go back and grasp the friendship that you had all those years ago....most of the time.
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> > I'm on facebook and myspace but I'm very careful who I allow on there....
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> > --- On Sun, 11/8/09, seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com> wrote:
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> > From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:49 PM
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> > Sorry i haven't been around as much, dealing with a few
> > things. One major thing is a best friend i had from school
> > contacted me this week. Found me through classmates.com and
> > then asked me to find her on facebook... so i did. Now i am
> > wondering if that was intelligent? I recently got rid of
> > so many friends on there and have really weeded out the
> > people in my life. She moved when i was 13 and in my hurt at
> > her moving, i hurt her. Something she brought up and remembered.. .
> > well... i wasn't in a good place when i was young. It felt
> > like she was leaving me on purpose and i got hurtful, i was
> > a child who wasn't coping well with the family i had.
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> > But now she also wants to be best friends and even lives
> > in the same state i do and wants to get together. UGH.
> > I could mention she's ubber religious to top it off and
> > half of her emails (she's been sending me longer emails
> > than what i post on here!!!) are about God, Jesus and
> > her beliefs or how He is moving in her life. I have a
> > very good relationship with God but i don't like religion
> > crammed down my throat. Especially on days like today when
> > a storm is brewing out in the gulf and my hip throbs in
> > pain to it or something. Woke up so sore i couldn't take it
> > and actually had to stoop to taking about of pain meds. ICK!
> >
> > I thought it would be fun catching up a little... but i
> > really don't want another best friend. I don't really
> > want to get to know her this much... she says she has
> > always thought of me as her long lost sister!?! I am
> > worried a little. I have fond memories of her, but i
> > wouldn't go so far as to ever thinking about locating
> > her. She remembers we were best friends, i remember
> > us as friends only. I remember having a few best friends
> > from back then, two of which are still my best friends to
> > this day. I feel like an ass though, for not remembering
> > her in the same way.
> >
> > I think i hate classmates.com and Facebook! All i get is
> > a ton of people who remember me and i don't remember them!
> > One girl said she was a close friend through jr. high
> > and now thinks it's funny as i married a man with the
> > same last name as her maiden name. Isn't that funny?
> > Uh.. i was like.. who are you? I had to ask my one best
> > friend and she was like.. she used to hang out with us
> > all the tiem. I have no recollection of her... or many of
> > the people i went to school with. I'm sorry, but i don't.
> > I remember those most important to me and i do remember
> > this new chick... but not in the levels that she does and i
> > feel like i must be a bad person over it all.
> >
> > My husband remembers the siblings of the people he went to
> > school with, even if they weren't that much of friends! I can't
> > remember the people i was friends with, let alone their
> > siblings!!!!
> >
> > I feel like i stepped in it now. I'm working on handling it
> > but i don't know how to handle it really yet either.
> >
> > Bri
> >
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#15083 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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LMBO, Bri!!!  That's a fabulous idea!!!   After I've accepted a drink from someone, I used to not be able to get rid of them....I may try the sign thing!!   LOL

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 9:31 AM

 
Lyn, that's why you have to be slightly rude up front.
A date is a date and it entitles you to nothing. Saying
it up front always helpful. Then tell them that you are
going to pay half the bill for the first few dates to see
how it even goes. :)

I used to be known as a bit of a bitch in the bars when i
used to go to them. My friends and i often put up a small
cardboard sign that says sending over a drink entitles you
to nothing more than a smile. People thought we were crazy
but it weeded out tons of jerks from the git go.

It is often true the moment you stop looking more start
appearing that are half way decent guys. Kind of like
getting pregnant... work hard at it and it doesn't happen
very easily.... just go out and have fun and forget about
it and wham.... :)

Bri

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
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> Yeah, they think if they buy you a drink and a 20 dollar dinner they should get sex. Stupid men
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@.. . <lyndieayn@. ..> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
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> > I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going to find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying. I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did that even before n! I guess some women do though. Sigh
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> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would
> if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.
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> > He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce. What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > They are so stupid and so desperate for
> attention! Mine said the same thing!! That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
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> > I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for women. Pitiful....
> >
> >
> > Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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> >
> > From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM
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> > I agree! They are so stupid, aren't they? I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times. He said he knew it was me,
> that's why he hit on it. Yeah, right. LOL. That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.
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> > Lyn
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN. He also hit on it too. All he did was brag about himself. That's kinda how I found out who he really is....
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> > So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes
> you a good investigator. ..LOL
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> > G
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> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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> > From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM
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> > LOL........haven' t had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later. Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!! Does that make me an n or just a smarter person? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L
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> > Lyn
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N. Posing as someone else on the internet. I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM
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> > Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.
> >
> > I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.
> >
> > He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it was him.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> >
> canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > > That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> > > away when you ignore them.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard
> > anything all day......... so hope they
> > > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> > > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> > >
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> > > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists
> > group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > > > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > > > through. I hope they both leave
> you alone soon.
> > > >
> > > > saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
> > >
> > > > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > > > storm lol.
> > > > >
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> >
> > > > > Lyn
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> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > >
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > > > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
> > > that
> >
> > > > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I
> don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > > > because
> > > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > > sneezing.... ...yuk.
> > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > > chest
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> > > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > > anything
> > > > > from
> > > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > > > busting
> > > > > > ns lol.
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> >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > > > chest
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> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > > > other
> > > > > by
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
> > >
> > > > > feel
> > > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > > > the
> > > > > > curb
> > > > > > >
> soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > > > where
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > > > Carolina.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > not
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > > > support,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to
> me; I do not
> > > need
> > > >
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > stress.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > > off
> > > > my
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> > > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
> >
> > > > those
> > > > >
> > > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > >
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > > off
> > > > my
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> > > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > > > men.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > But
> > > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> > > led
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > > found out he has a
> girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
> > >
> > > > > good
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > her
> > > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > > > work.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
> > >
> > > > be
> > > > > > > careful about whom
> > you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > > > hope
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > he
> > > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > > > should
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> > > just
> > > > > > called
> > > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> > > a
> > > > > > month
> > > > > > > ago. She lives in
> > the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
> > >
> > > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND
> BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> > > South
> > > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > > > attraction
> > > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
> > >
> > > > > long
> > > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > > advertising
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > > > ruined
> > > > > > him
> > > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > > > when
> > > > > I
> > > >
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n),
> and has positive qualities, but he's
> > >
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > > > around
> > > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > Sent:
> > Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > > off
> > > > my
> > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
> > >
> > > > > >
> living
> > > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> > > some
> > > >
> > > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Star
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> > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew
> <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > > searching
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> > > at
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > > > reader
> > > > >
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
> > >
> > > > he
> >
> > > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > > > and
> > > > > > went
> > > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > > > told
> > > > > me
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > > > ring.
> > > > >
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing
> sexual,
> > > > just
> > > > >
> > > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> > > even
> > > > > > tried
> > > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> > > he
> > > >
> > > > > > told
> > > > > > > me he was
> > > > >
> > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > > cousin
> > > >
> > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> > > back
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > > apologized
> > > >
> > > > > but
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> > > an
> > > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > cold
> > > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> > > in
> >
> > > > > > touch
> > > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > > > told
> > > > > > him
> > > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > > > because
> > > > > > he
> > >
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> > > off
> > > > > from
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > > > told
> > > > > me
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
> >
> > > have
> > > > > > become
> > > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > > > divorce.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > told him I was
> worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > > > cousin's
> > > > >
> > > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > > > email
> > > > >
> > > > > > him
> > > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> > > again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> > > his
> > > > > > cousin
> > > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
> >
> > >
> > > > me
> > > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > > > asked
>
> > > > > if
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > > > man
> > > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > > > house,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> > > can
> > > > > give
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all
> > don't mind.
> > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > > > wanted.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> > > into
> > > > > > better
> >
> > > > > > > understanding with the right
> person....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> > >
> > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I
> > find
> > > > this
> > > > >
> > > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
> > >
> > > > .>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > > > friends!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out
> of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> > > said
> > > > > 'ok
> > > > > > ok
> > > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > > > keep
> > > > >
> > > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > > > before,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > dream, I
> was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > > dated
> >
> > > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
> > >
> > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> > > sitting
> > > > at
> > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > > > she
> > > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > > > dating
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > see
> > > > >
> > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
> > >
> > > > was
> > > > >
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > > > back
> > > > >
> > > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> > > it
> > > > > gave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > > > thought
> > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > share.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he
> gives me a
> > > > > > horrified
> > > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and
> he was the same
> > > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> > > can't
> > > >
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > > either....when
> > > > >
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
> > >
> > > > it
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > Date:
> > > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> > > me
> > > > of
> > > > >
> > > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > > > Iranian,
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > > > remember
> > > > > > > frequent all day
> visits watching him while he visited with several
> > > friend
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
> > >
> > > > > > family
> > > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > > > from
> > > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> > > became
> > > >
> > > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > >
> >
> > something
> > > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > > > himself
> > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > > > the
> > > > > > kids
> > > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> > > or
> > > >
> > > > > > talk
> > > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> > > I
> > > >
> >
> > > > > went
> > > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I
> > went back to bed and
> > > > the
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > > > talking
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > > > didn't
> > > > >
> > > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > at least have told me
> where he was going or that he was going out. I
> > > then
> > > > > > asked
> > > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> > > subject.
> >
> > > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
> > >
> > > > on
> > > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> > > would
> > > >
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> > > went
> > > >
> > > > >
> off
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > > > But,
> > > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> > > at
> > > > > one.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
> > >
> > > > > that
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> > > wanted
> > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > > > here.
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> > > her
> > > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> > > jist
> > > > of
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > > > questions
> > > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> > >
> game
> > > > > but
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > > > questions,
> > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
> > >
> > > > > What
> > > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > > > instead
> > > > > > of
> >
> > > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> > > his
> > > >
> > > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> > > (WHY
> > > >
> > >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
> > >
> > > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > > > suggested
> > > > > > she
> > > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> > > I
> > > > > told
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> > > did
> > > > > not!
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> > > either
> > > > > > ignore
> > > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > > > answers.
> > > > > He
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't
> > be a big
> > > > > deal.
> > > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for
> me to go
> > > out
> > > >
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
> > >
> > > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> > > wouldn't
> > > >
> > > > > "do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > > > anything
> > > > >
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> > > He
> > > > > says
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> > > given
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > > > ignored.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > >
> me,
> > > > > > >
> > grabbed
> > > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
> > >
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > > > start
> > > > >
> > > > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
> > >
> > > > had
> > > > > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > > > bed
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
> > >
> > > > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > > >
> you
> > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
> >
> > > > > didn't
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > more like
> > > > > > > >
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#15082 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...
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saba,
 
you're right on!!!....that is just N talk.  They're trying to knock you down again.  If you ignore it, block him and stop reading those things, they'll eventually disappear...or go to hell....LOL
 
Don't let them get to you....that's how they win!!!
 
Gina

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Crazy...
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 11:26 AM

 
Is my last appointment with my counsellor. I haven't seen her in two weeks. As mentioned, I've cancelled all appointments, but she had move some people around a few weeks ago so she could see me at the time she's seeing me tomorrow. For that reason I have to attend.

I met a guy a year before I started dating my ex. He was a typical N as well. Though didn't know it at the time. I only knew him for a month. Unfortunately, I was hurting because of my divorce and rushed into being with him.

I mentioned the guy sends me emails once in a while and I never responded. Since before meeting my ex, I haven't responded to this idiots emails. Also, they go to an account I don't use anymore. I spoke of this idiot yesterday that he sends me emails, then today I just decided to go to that account. Apparently, in May of this year he'd sent me another email, saying "Saba is crazy. Saba is a cookoo".

Now in addition to that my ex was saying I have mental issues because I go to counsellors and groups like this, having this idiot tell me I'm crazy, I wonder if there is any truth to it? Or is it just N's speaking? Why would the guy keep sending me emails for 12 years, on and off, when I don't even respond. I relaly need to get away from counselling and everything else.

I think now that I am being honest with you all, you will think I'm crazy too. I don't think I'm crazy. I think I'm fine. I just got promoted to one of the top positions in my company. I am well respected at work?

I am really scared. I am really really scared of so many things.

Saba.



#15081 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] my previous post
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Ok......will do. 

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Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] my previous post

please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please. I'm 
scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago
knowing i'm here.

i am too scared right now...

saba.



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#15080 From: canadiansaba
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: my previous post
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please delete my previous post "crazy" or your responses to it please.  I'm
scared / paranoid / whatever... but I am afraid of the guy from 12 yrs ago
knowing i'm here.

i am too scared right now...

saba.

#15078 From: canadiansaba
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: Me again....trying to focus on me...WHAT A CHALLENGE!
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That was really immature of him.  Probably now that you're standing up for
yourself, he's making you feel as if you're the abuser.  Not the case.  That's
just another way to make you stop standing up.

Saba.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Momof2gr8kids <sk8ingmomof2@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I have been around...just haven't had much time to post or even keep
caught up on messages since joining the group.  I have been attending CODA
meetings regularly (once a week) and reading my materials and working the
program at my pace...trying to focus on not being perfect.  It's difficult, but
I'm moving along I suppose.
>
>
> I had a terrible night last night.  Monday night is my usual night for my CODA
meeting, and my husband knows that...and something usually comes up that tries
to get in the way of it...I have been pushing rather hard to make sure I make
the meeting, though...despite my feelings of guilt and pain and whatever else,
because I know that is just codependent Kathy intervening and I need to just do
it and go.  ANYWAY.....
>
> All day yesterday, my N husband was having trouble with his computer...just a
little update...he is home all day...doesn't work.  I work full time.  We have 2
young children.  They are in school part of the day, taken care of by grandma
til about 3 then hubby gets them til I get home around 6.  Husband's computer
got some kind of a worm, I believe...not sure from what...hub believes it was
from son playing games on the internet (son is 7, so doesn't fully understand
what he's clicking on)...we have some blocks in place and I limit his use...but
you know how worms work...even the most skilled user can get them!
>
> So hub was wanting to work on his resume...this worm was preventing him from
even using his computer.  I had a FULL plate at work and could not walk him
through anything at work.  I am always the one he calls with computer problems,
even though I am by no means an expert.  In fact, when I met hubby, he was the
one working in IT at a large company we both worked for...so I don't know where
all his knowledge went....ugh.  Anyway....I told him just use my laptop to work
on his resume...I don't have time...I have meetings with attorneys all day at
work and I can't be taking calls from him all day working through this.  I had
explained to him days ago that my pc is NOT set up to receive email on his
account, though...and the purpose of him using my laptop was to work on his
resume today anyway.  Well, what is the first thing he does?  Goes into the
email application and starts complaining..."you have hundreds of emails coming
in...I can't work on this thing!"
>   Like what the hell does email have to do with putting your fricking resume
together in WORD!?   ugh!
>
> I get home that evening, get dinner started and start to look at his pc and
figure out that it has this worm called "System Tool" which is very hard to get
rid of...start looking up on my laptop how to get rid of it...find a fix and go
to work on it.  As I'm downloading fixes....I'm eating dinner and letting the pc
do its thing....he is sitting in his chair watching the screen reporting every
fricking thing the pc is doing...the screen is changing, the screen is blue
now..now the pc is shutting down, I've never seen it do that, what is going on? 
I thought I was going to lose it.  I asked him to please stop while I was trying
to eat and let me look at it after I was done eating.  Well...now the pc has the
blue screen of death and won't come up at all....I am so frustrated at this
point, and I have already missed going to my meeting, because I figured if I
went, I'd be up all night trying to fix the pc...if I just left the pc...he was
saying very smart
>  ass like "well I can take it and get it fixed but it will probably be
$300"....yeah right, Mr. I don't have a job!  ugh.
> So he starts getting on my son's case about screwing up the computer and I'm
pissed because I know my son doesn't even KNOW what he did....most adults
probably wouldn't know what they did to get this virus/worm/whatever.
>
> Then, I wanted to ask hubby a simple question about whether he had seen the
blue screen...so I say "Can I ask you a question"....He jumps all over me....."
What are you going to abuse me some more?!!!"  I lost it at that point....I
turned off the computer, stood up, and looked at him, and he starts to shrink
back like I am going to hit him or something (I have NEVER touched him and he
knows it....) Plus he is 6' and I am 5'2".....ugh.....He goes "Are you gonna
stab me now or something?"  what????  I said "No, does it look like I have a
knife in my hand?"  I told him to get the hell out...I wasn't going to take his
abuse....when he felt like he could treat me like a human being then come back
at that time....he said "Oh great..I guess I will sleep in the woods then
because I don't have anywhere to go...here take my wallet and my id and my cell
phone and my watch I don't need those either."  and threw all that on the chair
and left.  I took them all back
>  out to him.  He left for about 2-3 hours and came back.....I am beyond
frustrated and hurt and confused and I don't know what else right now.
>
> To top it all off...after he came back...he started more shit with me and I
stood up for myself.  My 7 year old son said to me...."Don't you say anything to
him to make him mad and leave again."  Great....just fricking great!
>

#15076 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Me again....trying to focus on me...WHAT A CHALLENGE!
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I'm so sorry that you have to deal with all that freakin' immaturity.  I would just stop speaking to him at all.  You need to get out....or find a way to deal with it.  I'm so glad that I got MY 7 year old OUT of there away from his crap.
 
Good luck to you!!

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Momof2gr8kids <sk8ingmomof2@...> wrote:

From: Momof2gr8kids <sk8ingmomof2@...>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Me again....trying to focus on me...WHAT A CHALLENGE!
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 10:35 AM

 
Well, I have been around...just haven't had much time to post or even keep caught up on messages since joining the group.  I have been attending CODA meetings regularly (once a week) and reading my materials and working the program at my pace...trying to focus on not being perfect.  It's difficult, but I'm moving along I suppose.

I had a terrible night last night.  Monday night is my usual night for my CODA meeting, and my husband knows that...and something usually comes up that tries to get in the way of it...I have been pushing rather hard to make sure I make the meeting, though...despite my feelings of guilt and pain and whatever else, because I know that is just codependent Kathy intervening and I need to just do it and go.  ANYWAY.....

All day yesterday, my N husband was having trouble with his computer...just a little update...he is home all day...doesn' t work.  I work full time.  We have 2 young children.  They are in school part of the day, taken care of by grandma til about 3 then hubby gets them til I get home around 6.  Husband's computer got some kind of a worm, I believe...not sure from what...hub believes it was from son playing games on the internet (son is 7, so doesn't fully understand what he's clicking on)...we have some blocks in place and I limit his use...but you know how worms work...even the most skilled user can get them!  

So hub was wanting to work on his resume...this worm was preventing him from even using his computer.  I had a FULL plate at work and could not walk him through anything at work.  I am always the one he calls with computer problems, even though I am by no means an expert.  In fact, when I met hubby, he was the one working in IT at a large company we both worked for...so I don't know where all his knowledge went....ugh.  Anyway....I told him just use my laptop to work on his resume...I don't have time...I have meetings with attorneys all day at work and I can't be taking calls from him all day working through this.  I had explained to him days ago that my pc is NOT set up to receive email on his account, though...and the purpose of him using my laptop was to work on his resume today anyway.  Well, what is the first thing he does?  Goes into the email application and starts complaining. .."you have hundreds of emails coming in...I can't work on this thing!"  Like what the hell does email have to do with putting your fricking resume together in WORD!?   ugh!   

I get home that evening, get dinner started and start to look at his pc and figure out that it has this worm called "System Tool" which is very hard to get rid of...start looking up on my laptop how to get rid of it...find a fix and go to work on it.  As I'm downloading fixes....I'm eating dinner and letting the pc do its thing....he is sitting in his chair watching the screen reporting every fricking thing the pc is doing...the screen is changing, the screen is blue now..now the pc is shutting down, I've never seen it do that, what is going on?  I thought I was going to lose it.  I asked him to please stop while I was trying to eat and let me look at it after I was done eating.  Well...now the pc has the blue screen of death and won't come up at all....I am so frustrated at this point, and I have already missed going to my meeting, because I figured if I went, I'd be up all night trying to fix the pc...if I just left the pc...he was saying very smart ass like "well I can take it and get it fixed but it will probably be $300"....yeah right, Mr. I don't have a job!  ugh.
So he starts getting on my son's case about screwing up the computer and I'm pissed because I know my son doesn't even KNOW what he did....most adults probably wouldn't know what they did to get this virus/worm/whatever .

Then, I wanted to ask hubby a simple question about whether he had seen the blue screen...so I say "Can I ask you a question"... .He jumps all over me....." What are you going to abuse me some more?!!!"  I lost it at that point....I turned off the computer, stood up, and looked at him, and he starts to shrink back like I am going to hit him or something (I have NEVER touched him and he knows it....) Plus he is 6' and I am 5'2".....ugh. ....He goes "Are you gonna stab me now or something?"  what????  I said "No, does it look like I have a knife in my hand?"  I told him to get the hell out...I wasn't going to take his abuse....when he felt like he could treat me like a human being then come back at that time....he said "Oh great..I guess I will sleep in the woods then because I don't have anywhere to go...here take my wallet and my id and my cell phone and my watch I don't need those either."  and threw all that on the chair and left.  I took them all back out to him.  He left for about 2-3 hours and came back.....I am beyond frustrated and hurt and confused and I don't know what else right now.

To top it all off...after he came back...he started more shit with me and I stood up for myself.  My 7 year old son said to me...."Don't you say anything to him to make him mad and leave again."  Great....just fricking great!




#15075 From: Momof2gr8kids <sk8ingmomof2@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:35 pm
Subject: Me again....trying to focus on me...WHAT A CHALLENGE!
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Well, I have been around...just haven't had much time to post or even keep caught up on messages since joining the group.  I have been attending CODA meetings regularly (once a week) and reading my materials and working the program at my pace...trying to focus on not being perfect.  It's difficult, but I'm moving along I suppose.


I had a terrible night last night.  Monday night is my usual night for my CODA meeting, and my husband knows that...and something usually comes up that tries to get in the way of it...I have been pushing rather hard to make sure I make the meeting, though...despite my feelings of guilt and pain and whatever else, because I know that is just codependent Kathy intervening and I need to just do it and go.  ANYWAY.....


All day yesterday, my N husband was having trouble with his computer...just a little update...he is home all day...doesn't work.  I work full time.  We have 2 young children.  They are in school part of the day, taken care of by grandma til about 3 then hubby gets them til I get home around 6.  Husband's computer got some kind of a worm, I believe...not sure from what...hub believes it was from son playing games on the internet (son is 7, so doesn't fully understand what he's clicking on)...we have some blocks in place and I limit his use...but you know how worms work...even the most skilled user can get them!  


So hub was wanting to work on his resume...this worm was preventing him from even using his computer.  I had a FULL plate at work and could not walk him through anything at work.  I am always the one he calls with computer problems, even though I am by no means an expert.  In fact, when I met hubby, he was the one working in IT at a large company we both worked for...so I don't know where all his knowledge went....ugh.  Anyway....I told him just use my laptop to work on his resume...I don't have time...I have meetings with attorneys all day at work and I can't be taking calls from him all day working through this.  I had explained to him days ago that my pc is NOT set up to receive email on his account, though...and the purpose of him using my laptop was to work on his resume today anyway.  Well, what is the first thing he does?  Goes into the email application and starts complaining..."you have hundreds of emails coming in...I can't work on this thing!"  Like what the hell does email have to do with putting your fricking resume together in WORD!?   ugh!   


I get home that evening, get dinner started and start to look at his pc and figure out that it has this worm called "System Tool" which is very hard to get rid of...start looking up on my laptop how to get rid of it...find a fix and go to work on it.  As I'm downloading fixes....I'm eating dinner and letting the pc do its thing....he is sitting in his chair watching the screen reporting every fricking thing the pc is doing...the screen is changing, the screen is blue now..now the pc is shutting down, I've never seen it do that, what is going on?  I thought I was going to lose it.  I asked him to please stop while I was trying to eat and let me look at it after I was done eating.  Well...now the pc has the blue screen of death and won't come up at all....I am so frustrated at this point, and I have already missed going to my meeting, because I figured if I went, I'd be up all night trying to fix the pc...if I just left the pc...he was saying very smart ass like "well I can take it and get it fixed but it will probably be $300"....yeah right, Mr. I don't have a job!  ugh.

So he starts getting on my son's case about screwing up the computer and I'm pissed because I know my son doesn't even KNOW what he did....most adults probably wouldn't know what they did to get this virus/worm/whatever.


Then, I wanted to ask hubby a simple question about whether he had seen the blue screen...so I say "Can I ask you a question"....He jumps all over me....." What are you going to abuse me some more?!!!"  I lost it at that point....I turned off the computer, stood up, and looked at him, and he starts to shrink back like I am going to hit him or something (I have NEVER touched him and he knows it....) Plus he is 6' and I am 5'2".....ugh.....He goes "Are you gonna stab me now or something?"  what????  I said "No, does it look like I have a knife in my hand?"  I told him to get the hell out...I wasn't going to take his abuse....when he felt like he could treat me like a human being then come back at that time....he said "Oh great..I guess I will sleep in the woods then because I don't have anywhere to go...here take my wallet and my id and my cell phone and my watch I don't need those either."  and threw all that on the chair and left.  I took them all back out to him.  He left for about 2-3 hours and came back.....I am beyond frustrated and hurt and confused and I don't know what else right now.


To top it all off...after he came back...he started more shit with me and I stood up for myself.  My 7 year old son said to me...."Don't you say anything to him to make him mad and leave again."  Great....just fricking great!




#15074 From: seadoolover69
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: Need to get it off my chest
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Ruth, sounds like he's stuck in the stage of denial. If
he keeps everything just so and keeps her ashes there, she's
not really gone.

You can lose many people in life and it's not the same at
all when you lose a child. Your parental feelings don't
end when they die. It's not explainable to another and
i would jump for joy if no one else ever had to live
through it to understand it.

In that box rests a large part of his soul and letting
that go is just near to impossible. Like i said... it's
nearly impossible to explain. My mind is jumping to so
many areas thinking of a way to explain it and all i know
is that if you had tried to tell me before hand i would
never have been able to understand it. I would have
thought i could and i would have empathized but going
through it... it's not something someone can really
understand.

Bri

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@...> wrote:
>
> Didn't see that, sorry, but this isn't really a vase, it is a functional box. 
A black box.  Kinda creepy like out of a horror movie or something.  This is a
cousin I literally was getting to know for the first time in my life (long
family history there) a little, and he is about 50 something.  I kinda forgot
the box though when I discovered that he kept her room up like he thinks she
would appreciate.  One thing is her furniture is covered with he said over 200
teddy bears.  He has plenty of money, so you can just imagine.  I feel very
sadly about her sudden car accident death but not sure I would do the same, you
know?  Everybody is different.  But he refuses to discuss it......
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, canadiansaba <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Did anyone watch "Meet the Parents", when Ben Stiller goes to visit the
girls parents.  Don't they keep the grandmother's ashes in the dining room. 
Remember he breaks the vase somehow.
> >
> > Saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting point about the grief, I have a cousin who keeps his teen
daughter's ashes on his coffee table in an immaculate house.  I just kinda kept
staring at it as if hyptnotized......
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Marilla, guys like married women for a reason.... they don't
> > > > want you to divorce so you cannot get overly attached to
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > Name me one person who has had a really horrible thing like
> > > > a death in the family who keeps the obit in their wallet, besides
> > > > this guy and the guy who killed his wife.
> > > >
> > > > Every widower and widow i know would be horrified to keep
> > > > the obit of their loved one in their billfold. That
> > > > screams red flag to me. That he then showed you the article
> > > > on the accident.. man... that's just creepy at that point.
> > > >
> > > > I've been through grief group over losing my son and i
> > > > don't know one person through all the groups through all
> > > > the years that kept the obit on them or even close by.
> > > > Many have a box of stuff with it stashed away, needing
> > > > to hold onto it but also not being willing to keep it
> > > > close at hand.
> > > >
> > > > Can you imagine keeping your husbands obit and you don't
> > > > even like him much? Now try to imagine being happily
> > > > married and holding onto an obit like that. Just not
> > > > gonna happen.
> > > >
> > > > Of course he didn't try anything on you.. he could see
> > > > you weren't ready for it. Guys like him move extremely
> > > > slowly. They generally have a few women on the same line
> > > > at the same time and they bring slowly reel you in.
> > > > Otherwise if they push to fast they know there's a good
> > > > chance of losing their fish.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not emotionally attached in a romantic sort of way.  He did show
me her obituary that he keeps in his wallet.  And then during a subsequent get
together, he showed me the article on the accident.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would think if he was really a bad guy, he would have tried
something but he hasn't and has even tried to help me get inside hubby's head. 
He has told me many times not to get a divorce so when he said it at this last
meeting it threw me through a loop
> > > > >
> > > > > Anne
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
men.  But how can you REALLY trust this guy.  See, my N lives two hours away and
led a double life.  If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
have found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there.  Well, I guess I'm d***
good at investigation because I keep finding more stuff........Found pics of him
and her dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
work.  I sat home alone.  AND THIS IS LOVE???  No 2 situations are the same;
just be careful about whom you give your heart to.  I'd hate to see it broken if
this guy turns out to be psycho.  He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
hope he is.  Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow?  You
should be able to find out on line for free by going to his county web site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared.  He
just called and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in
with a month ago.  She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in
another direction.  He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I met this nut on the internet too.  He's from South
Carolina and I flew down there to meet him.  It was an "instant" attraction
thing.  However, he is an alcoholic.  He is sober now, but who knows how long
that will last.  This man is 59 and was very very successful in advertising when
he was young and out of college with several degrees.  But the booze ruined him
near as I can tell.  He did introduce me to all his family and friends when I
was there (unlike most current n),  and has positive qualities, but he's just
looking for a free ride near as I can tell.  All this N chit is about to drive
me over the edge.  Not much sleep last night and tonight's not looking much
better.  Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and around me. 
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my chest
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!!  As long as you are still with your
husband, living like you are, this should be a no no.  Seek out female friends
and do some bonding.  That is all I am going to say.  I am worried about you
Anne!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > Star
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places.  I was
searching for a book on a certain subject as was he.  He commented on one I was
looking at and we chatted a little bit.  The next week when I went back (I'm a
quick reader if the book interests me) and he was there again.  Again we talked
and then he asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat.  So, we each took our
car and went to a diner.  He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. 
He told me he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off
the ring.  We got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall.  Nothing
sexual, just eating and talking.  He listened to me complain about my husband
and even tried to give me advice from where my husband was coming from.  Early
Spring, he told me he was
> > > > > >  moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter.  His
cousin had lost her job and he was going to help out with finances.  We emailed
back and forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked.  He
apologized but since he was a contractor I told him I understood.  Summer passed
with an occasional, "I hope you're doing ok".  We did get together once during
the summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more.  Now that the
cold weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting in
touch with me more often.  I even agreed to meet him in the middle again.  I
told him how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
because he was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
off from me.  He actually apologized for not being able to get together more!  I
have never heard a guy apologize before!!!  He said I
> > > > > >  seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often.  He
told me he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
have become used to it.  He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
divorce.  I told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
cousin's divorce and it's effects on her daughter.  Before I left he told me to
email him if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking.  He is still married,
his cousin is really his wife, etc.  But I did do 20 questions with him and he
gave me details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article.  He
asked if I trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing
any man because of hubby.  He said he understood.  He never asked to come to my
house, to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > >  that.  I think I just might have found a man I can trust!  One who
can give me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes
<ginateresawoohoo@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne,  I so want that 'dream' too.  I guess everybody wants to be
wanted.  I want a best friend too!  I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
into better understanding with the right person....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my chest
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I
find this "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47"
<mahhrene@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
friends! :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
the last sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
said 'ok ok
> > > > > >  you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy
and keep talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
before, he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
I am now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
<no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all.
In this dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
had dated him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting
for someone and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
sitting at the bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood
behind me , caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > >  friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table
and she asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
dating for a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
couldn't see his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between
us and was so happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying
to get back into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters
so it gave me some hope.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
thought I'd share.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
<no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
horrified look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I
should.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
<ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why can't they
'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well either....when you
marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to
get it off my chest
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > > > >  Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
me of some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
Iranian, and I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
remember frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
friend while they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not
the family unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > >  marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
from dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away from
the door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he became
irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's something
'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat himself and
he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got the kids
ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him or talk
to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our
bed. I went downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed
and the next morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > >  where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
talking about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
to 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he didn't
want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex. He could
at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I then asked
what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the subject. Okay,
no big deal.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments
me on something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley' would
have done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell went
off in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club. But,
nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year at one.
Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > >  if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell
him that he is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
wanted to have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother
was here.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
her in their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the jist
of the conversation.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
questions with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
game but he didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
questions, I found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip
club. What kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
instead of telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > >  teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
his mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing. (WHY
CAN'T WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
ALONG?) Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
suggested she go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh,
well I told her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed!
"You did not! My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > >  it ok
> > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
either ignore me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him.
He actually asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
answers. He said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a
big deal. So, I
> > > > > >  through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
out in the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he wouldn't "do
it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went to the
strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting anything but
a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10. He says
that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
given the silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
ignored. I couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to
getaway from them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet
and depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up to
me, grabbed
> > > > > >  my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has
to tell you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
start crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
had a bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
bed next to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him
I couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can you
tell your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
didn't even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > >  more like
> > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
have to get up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex.
He was trying to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
free time
> > > > > >  from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
1257 messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.runboard.com/bnarcissisticabuserecovery
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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#15073 From: seadoolover69
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: This week....
seadoolover69
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Thanks Ruth, I think i've had enough with her to last me a
month! lol. I know i can come across on here really stuffy
and stuff, but in reality i am quite goofy and tend to have
a knack for making any time a great time. My husband and
i end up having so much fun that we laugh till we cry at
least once every other week or so. The fun stories i have
from this year, the year before and the year before that
take center stage in my mind. I can't wait for the next
big thing that's going to be a blast. Often they are not
planned, they just happen.

Not until i get ready to die will my best days stop
continuing to come! Plus, many of those "Great times"
that so many talk about weren't that big of a deal to
me at all. I make the fun, but am not always having
that great of fun myself. God, this sounds vain to me.
I was not a clown in any sense back then, but i know
how to make things memorable and i know how to make
certain everyone has a huge blast. Often, the worse
it was at home at the moment, the more fun i made life
for others. Does that even make sense? People remember
my family is wonderful, perfect and everything golden.
Life to them, seemed good. But i had to go home behind
closed doors to a reality of hell. When my parties ended
at my house, my mother went back to who she is. For all
i have said on her... she can still be one of the most
charming people you have ever met. I don't doubt that
if any of you met her and didn't know about her... you'd
not see the truth behind the facade. If she keeps you
at an arms length, you'll love her for as long as you
know her. But... if she becomes "friends" with you,
look out. Then you are in trouble and will find out
quickly the real her. She runs a very successful, people
orientated, business quite well. She sees the people for
only short amounts and is able to do well that way.

Anyway... those times that were so fun for everyone just
weren't that interesting to me. They just simply were.
I wanted to make others happier and i wanted the to have
a blast. I had no idea that it would end up being the
best memories of their lives... that seems crazy to me!
Come on... they should have learned how to make more
memories for them.

I have memories, clear and vivid that are important to me
from back when. Memories with those handful of my best
friends, those that knew what went on in my house and those
that knew my secrets. I knew their secrets as well and knew
the secret hells they were living in as well. There are times
with them that are so vivid in memory that i can recall
everything. They were more than just some fun, they were
the real deal to me.

And i have continued to make things memorable for others
and have my own memorable fun days every year for all of
my life. Does any of that make sense??

I don't know.... just seems sad that long ago and far
away those were the best days of their life. Hey.. that's
a song... hmm. Maybe that's the norm and i am not fitting
into it?? Dunno.
Bri



--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, Bri, I have ran into various combinations of that kind of thing on
classmates and fb.  Including the religious part.  Thankfully not all at once,
like you have!  But maybe part of it will die down for her once the initial
excitment of reconnecting is over with?  For sure, I can understand wanting to
keep it distant a bit.  I would certainly find ways to be busy when she hits
your personal limits.  I have a couple of people I dearly like and love whom I
literally have to watch the clock on, due to my circumstances, and say, 'ok,
been an hour now and gotta run but will talk soon' stuff like that.  Makes you
wonder what she did before meeting you again!
>
> And yes, one of my very best friends remembers high school with crystal
clarity, and will say something like, 'do you remember that day in March when we
all went over to John's house and he had those funny shorts and and and
and.......' and all I can think of is 'John who?  Shorts?  What town again?'  I
think besides my not so hot memory it is also that I have been to college since
and she hasn't but even so, she has done a lot of voc tech stuff, so really
can't say, but her memory is sure good.  I like it because usually the feelings
associated with come back, usually ok stuff, but not actually the memory, which
is fine, because usually it wasn't THAT important anyway.  But the memory she
has is phenomenal!
>
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Star Light <stargazingforever@>
wrote:
> >
> > Just take it slow Bri.  You don't have to do anything you don't want to do! 
And who cares if you don't remember everyone, I probably don't remember everyone
either.  Her wanting to be best friends after all this time is a bit
presumptuous I think.  Go with your first instincts.  I am a Christian but I
don't like God or religion shoved at me either.  God wouldn't want us to push
people away!  And of course everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and there
is nothing wrong with that.  So Bri, don't let this stress you so much, take it
or leave it and if you take it, do it your way!
> >
> > Hugs,
> > Star
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 6:49:25 PM
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] This week....
> >
> > Sorry i haven't been around as much, dealing with a few
> > things. One major thing is a best friend i had from school
> > contacted me this week. Found me through classmates.com and
> > then asked me to find her on facebook... so i did. Now i am
> > wondering if that was intelligent? I recently got rid of
> > so many friends on there and have really weeded out the
> > people in my life. She moved when i was 13 and in my hurt at
> > her moving, i hurt her. Something she brought up and remembered...
> > well... i wasn't in a good place when i was young. It felt
> > like she was leaving me on purpose and i got hurtful, i was
> > a child who wasn't coping well with the family i had.
> >
> > But now she also wants to be best friends and even lives
> > in the same state i do and wants to get together. UGH.
> > I could mention she's ubber religious to top it off and
> > half of her emails (she's been sending me longer emails
> > than what i post on here!!!) are about God, Jesus and
> > her beliefs or how He is moving in her life. I have a
> > very good relationship with God but i don't like religion
> > crammed down my throat. Especially on days like today when
> > a storm is brewing out in the gulf and my hip throbs in
> > pain to it or something. Woke up so sore i couldn't take it
> > and actually had to stoop to taking about of pain meds. ICK!
> >
> > I thought it would be fun catching up a little... but i
> > really don't want another best friend. I don't really
> > want to get to know her this much... she says she has
> > always thought of me as her long lost sister!?! I am
> > worried a little. I have fond memories of her, but i
> > wouldn't go so far as to ever thinking about locating
> > her. She remembers we were best friends, i remember
> > us as friends only. I remember having a few best friends
> > from back then, two of which are still my best friends to
> > this day. I feel like an ass though, for not remembering
> > her in the same way.
> >
> > I think i hate classmates.com and Facebook! All i get is
> > a ton of people who remember me and i don't remember them!
> > One girl said she was a close friend through jr. high
> > and now thinks it's funny as i married a man with the
> > same last name as her maiden name. Isn't that funny?
> > Uh.. i was like.. who are you? I had to ask my one best
> > friend and she was like.. she used to hang out with us
> > all the tiem. I have no recollection of her... or many of
> > the people i went to school with. I'm sorry, but i don't.
> > I remember those most important to me and i do remember
> > this new chick... but not in the levels that she does and i
> > feel like i must be a bad person over it all.
> >
> > My husband remembers the siblings of the people he went to
> > school with, even if they weren't that much of friends! I can't
> > remember the people i was friends with, let alone their
> > siblings!!!!
> >
> > I feel like i stepped in it now. I'm working on handling it
> > but i don't know how to handle it really yet either.
> >
> > Bri
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> >
> > http://www.runboard.com/bnarcissisticabuserecovery
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

#15072 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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LOL  We were on a roll yesterday when yellhoo practically shut us down.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



LMBO....Lyn and Star!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:22 PM

 
Who let the dogs out?  Who who who? 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



hehehehehehe


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:47:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



They might as well be dogs......wait a minute...... they are lol

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Amen, Star and Lyn!!!  They don't attach emotions with sex.  I do,....just like you do. 
They could care less....it's all just about the act and self gratification!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:54 PM

 
You said it Lyn!  We do it when we like them and care about them, they do just to do it!


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:45:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



It pisses me off!  I know, looking back, I had sex with xn way too soon because, for me, and I think most women, I bond with a man if I have sex with him.  For him it was just sex.  So no more "bonding" for me.  LOL

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Doesn't that just piss you off?  It's like, dude....do you think I'm a ho or something??? ??

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:34 PM

 
That is so true.  When I was broke up once with my N for almost a year I tried dating and that's what they all wanted!!!!  It freaked me out!!!  I just want a friend, someone to go dancing with or other things not someone who is trying to jump my bones every minute!!!


From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:07:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



LOL...Lyn.  I've heard that too.  Everybody tells me to quit looking and he'll pop up.  Yeah, well, I quit looking and what popped up??  Another controlling N. 
Yes, most guys want sex right off the bat anyway.

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:55 PM

 
Nope, not looking here either.  It's been said a good guy will appear when you least expect it.  Well, I least expect it, and wouldn't want him now if he did appear.  I just want to be left alone.  Thinking about sex with another man makes me want to puke........ and they all want that on the first date....it seems anyway.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Saba,  I wish I knew where the good guys are.....starting to doubt that one will ever cross my path....Because I'm SURE not looking anymore.

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:07 PM

 
You're right about the net. I would add religious conferences, social events, networking events, etc. on there as well. LOL! No joke, b/c I've seen some N's there as well. So, where are the good guys?

LOL!

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
>
>
> I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going to find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying. I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did that even before n! I guess some women do though. Sigh
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> Lyn
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@.. . <lyndieayn@. ..> wrote:
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> From: lyndieayn@.. . <lyndieayn@. ..>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM
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> I'm laughing so hard lol. Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too. I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again. Barf
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> Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.
>
> He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce. What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for women. Pitiful....
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> Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL
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> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
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> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com> wrote:
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> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM
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> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
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> > Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
> >
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> > Lyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they go
> > away when you ignore them.
> >
> > Saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard
> anything all day......... so hope they
> > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> > him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists
> group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going
> > > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> > >
> > > saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
> >
> > > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before the
> > > storm lol.
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> > > > Lyn
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> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with
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> > > >
> > > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > > >
> > > > Saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > > because
> > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > sneezing.... ...yuk.
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> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
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> > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
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> > > > > Saba.
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> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > anything
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> > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > > busting
> > > > > ns lol.
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> > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > > chest
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> > > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
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> > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > > the
> > > > > curb
> > > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
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> > > > >
> >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > > where
> > > > I
> > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > > Carolina.
> > > >
> > > > > The
> > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> > have
> > >
> > > > not
> > > > >
> > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > > support,
> > > > >
> > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> > need
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> > > > > this
> > > > > > stress.
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
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> > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
>
> > > those
> > > >
> > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
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> > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > > men.
> > > >
> >
> > > > But
> > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> > led
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
> >
> > > > good
> > > > > at
> > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > her
> > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > > work.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
> >
> > > be
> > > > > > careful about whom
> you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > > hope
> > > >
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > > should
> > > > >
> > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> > just
> > > > > called
> > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> > a
> > > > > month
> > > > > > ago. She lives in
> the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
> >
> > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> > South
> > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > > attraction
> > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
> >
> > > > long
> > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > advertising
> > > > > when
> > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > > ruined
> > > > > him
> > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > > when
> > > > I
> > >
> > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
> >
> > > > just
> > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> > and
> > >
> > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > > around
> > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent:
> Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
> >
> > > > > living
> > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> > some
> > >
> > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Star
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > searching
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> > at
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > > reader
> > > >
> > > > > if
> > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
> >
> > > he
>
> > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > > and
> > > > > went
> > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > > ring.
> > > >
> > > > > We
> > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > > just
> > > >
> > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> > even
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> > he
> > >
> > > > > told
> > > > > > me he was
> > > >
> > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > cousin
> > >
> > > > had
> > > > >
> > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> > back
> > > > and
> > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > apologized
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> > an
> > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> > the
> > >
> > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> > the
> > >
> > > > > cold
> > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> > in
>
> > > > > touch
> > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > > told
> > > > > him
> > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > > because
> > > > > he
> > > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> > off
> > > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
>
> > have
> > > > > become
> > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > > divorce.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > > cousin's
> > > >
> > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > > email
> > > >
> > > > > him
> > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> > his
> > > > > cousin
> > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> >
> > > me
> > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > > asked
> > > > if
> > > > > I
> > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > > man
> > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > > house,
> > > > >
> > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> > can
> > > > give
> > > > >
> > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all
> don't mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > > wanted.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> > into
> > > > > better
>
> > > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> >
> my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I
> find
> > > this
> > > >
> > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
> >
> > > .>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > > friends!
> > > > >
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> > the
> > >
> > > > > last
> > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> > said
> > > > 'ok
> > > > > ok
> > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > > keep
> > > >
> > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > > before,
> > > > >
> > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> > I
> > >
> > > > am
> > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> > had
> > >
> > > > > dated
>
> > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
> >
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> > sitting
> > > at
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > > she
> > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > > dating
> > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > see
> > > >
> > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
> >
> > > was
> > > >
> > > > > so
> > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > > back
> > > >
> > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> > it
> > > > gave
> > > > >
> > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > > thought
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > share.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > > horrified
> > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> > can't
> > >
> > > > > they
> > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > either....when
> > > >
> > > > > you
> > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
> >
> > > it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> Date:
> > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> > me
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > > Iranian,
> > >
> > > and
> > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > > remember
> > > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> > friend
> > > > > while
> > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
> >
> > > > > family
> > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > > from
> > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> > from
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> > became
> > >
> > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > >
> something
> > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > > himself
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > > the
> > > > > kids
> > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> > or
> > >
> > > > > talk
> > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> > I
> > >
> > > > > went
> > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I
> went back to bed and
> > > the
> > > > > next
> > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > > talking
> > > > >
> > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> > to
> > >
> > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> > He
> > >
> > > > > could
> > > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> > then
> > > > > asked
> > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> > subject.
>
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
> >
> > > on
> > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> > would
> > >
> > > > > have
> > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> > went
> > >
> > > > off
> > > > >
> > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > > But,
> > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> > at
> > > > one.
> > > > >
>
> > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
> >
> > > > that
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> > wanted
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> > her
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> > jist
> > > of
> > > >
> >
> > > > the
> > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > > questions
> > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> > game
> > > > but
> > > > > he
> > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > > questions,
> > > > I
> > > > >
> > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
> >
> > > > What
> > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > > instead
> > > > > of
>
> > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> > his
> > >
> > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> > (WHY
> > >
> > > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
> >
> > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > > suggested
> > > > > she
> > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> > I
> > > > told
> > > > >
> > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> > did
> > > > not!
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> > either
> > > > > ignore
> > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > > answers.
> > > > He
> > > > >
> > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't
> be a big
> > > > deal.
> > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> > out
> > >
> > > > in
> > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> > wouldn't
> > >
> > > > "do
> > > > >
> > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
> >
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > > anything
> > > >
> > > > > but
> > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> > He
> > > > says
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> > given
> > > > the
> > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > > ignored.
> > > > I
> > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
> >
> > > to
> > > > > me,
> > > > > >
> grabbed
> > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
> >
> > > > tell
> > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > > start
> > > >
> > > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
> >
> > > had
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > > bed
> > > > > next
> > > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > > you
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
>
> > > > didn't
> > > > >
> > > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > more like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> > have
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > get
> > > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> > was
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > > free
> > > > > time
> > > >
> > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
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#15071 From: seadoolover69
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
seadoolover69
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Talking about nice guys or decent guys.... don't always
assume siblings of a decent guy are worth while. My friend
dated my brother in law even after i told him he was a horrible
horrible man. She just figured if my husband was so great,
his siblings would be too. His siblings aren't like him!
His one brother is more so, but has drinking and drug issues
that make him abusive when he's using. The other is an N
and has loads of troubles!

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@...> wrote:
>
> o now, c'mon, there was rumor about some really good guys out there, maybe the
next continent over or something, dunno.......   :p
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@>
wrote:
> >
> > Never thought of it that way.....guess that knocks out the rest of my
hope....LOL
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@>
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:52 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's what I would think too!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:31:55 PM
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> >
> > Gina.  That's not worth anything.  We waited six months.  Unless that's
considered quick as well. 
> >
> > I think just b/c they don't want it quick from you they may be getting it
elsewhere during that time.  Or it's part of the charm.
> >
> > Saba.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@
...> wrote:
> > >
> > > You're right about that Lyn!!  I figure if I meet a guy I like and he
waits around for months on end without getting some....he's worth
something!!!   LOL
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@ . <lyndieayn@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: lyndieayn@ . <lyndieayn@ .>
> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:45 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
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> > >
> > > It pisses me off!  I know, looking back, I had sex with xn way too soon
because, for me, and I think most women, I bond with a man if I have sex with
him.  For him it was just sex.  So no more "bonding" for me.  LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:40 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Doesn't that just piss you off?  It's like, dude....do you think I'm a
ho or something??? ??
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:34 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That is so true.  When I was broke up once with my N for almost a year
I tried dating and that's what they all wanted!!!!  It freaked me out!!! 
I just want a friend, someone to go dancing with or other things not someone who
is trying to jump my bones every minute!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:07:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > >
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> > >
> > > LOL...Lyn.  I've heard that too.  Everybody tells me to quit looking
and he'll pop up.  Yeah, well, I quit looking and what popped up?? 
Another controlling N. 
> > > Yes, most guys want sex right off the bat anyway.
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:55 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope, not looking here either.  It's been said a good guy will appear
when you least expect it.  Well, I least expect it, and wouldn't want him now
if he did appear.  I just want to be left alone.  Thinking about sex with
another man makes me want to puke........ and they all want that on the first
date....it seems anyway.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 1:16 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Saba,  I wish I knew where the good guys are.....starting to doubt that
one will ever cross my path....Because I'm SURE not looking anymore.
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:07 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > You're right about the net. I would add religious conferences, social
events, networking events, etc. on there as well. LOL! No joke, b/c I've seen
some N's there as well. So, where are the good guys?
> > >
> > > LOL!
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going
to find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me
(like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying.
I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did
that even before n! I guess some women do though. Sigh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
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> > > > Lyn,
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> > > >
> > > > I'm with you there! I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again
either! I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most
of them are married or just looking for another bed partner. I feel like the
"good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for
a woman....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gina
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@ . <lyndieayn@ ..> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: lyndieayn@ . <lyndieayn@ ..>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM
> > > >
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> > > > I'm laughing so hard lol. Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too.
I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone
from the internet again. Barf
> > > >
> > > > Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles
down; I said I would if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.
> > > >
> > > > He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed
that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter
at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce.
What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??
> > > >
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> > > > Lyn
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
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> > > > They are so stupid and so desperate for attention! Mine said the same
thing!! That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles
because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for
women. Pitiful....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM
> > > >
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> > > > I agree! They are so stupid, aren't they? I even confronted my xn about
it.....actually I did it several times. He said he knew it was me, that's why he
hit on it. Yeah, right. LOL. That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to
an n.
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
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> > > > Lyn,
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN. He also
hit on it too. All he did was brag about himself. That's kinda how I found out
who he really is....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator.
..LOL
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > LOL........haven' t had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or
later. Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a
fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!! Does that make me
an n or just a smarter person? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Lyn
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
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> > > > I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N. Posing as someone
else on the internet. I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send
me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't
send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has
no idea where I am.
> > > >
> > > > I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he
just wanted more N supply.
> > > >
> > > > He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone
else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I
only later found out it was him.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:
> > > > canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard
they go
> > > > > away when you ignore them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard
> > > > anything all day......... . so hope they
> > > > > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when
they've
> > > > > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I
busted
> > > > > him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me
because I did
> > > > > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists
> > > > group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are
going
> > > > > > through. I hope they both leave you alone soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > saba.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you
aren't
> > > > > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked"
by 2 ns
> > > > >
> > > > > > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull
before the
> > > > > > storm lol.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my chest
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Oh... sorry.. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble
with
> > > > > that
> > > >
> > > > > > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was
you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think I might be coming down with something.. Sorry Lyn.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th
though
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > > > > sneezing.... ....yuk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > > > > anything
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I
just love
> > > > > > > busting
> > > > > > > > ns lol.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it off my
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives
against each
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other
has to
> > > > >
> > > > > > > feel
> > > > > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked
his @ss to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > curb
> > > > > > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me..........
.......... .......not
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't
know
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to
South
> > > > > > Carolina.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing
him. I
> > > > > have
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks
for your
> > > > > > > support,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I
do not
> > > > > need
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > stress.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to
get it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear
of all
> > > >
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to
get it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed
up with
> > > > > > men.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours
away and
> > > > > led
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I
would never
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess
I'm d***
> > > > >
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found
pics of him
> > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me
he had to
> > > > > > > work.
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the
same; just
> > > > >
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > careful about whom
> > > > you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
> > > > >
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice
man.......and I
> > > > > > hope
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a
widow? You
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has
reappeared. He
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > > called
> > > > > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he
moved in with
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > month
> > > > > > > > > ago. She lives in
> > > > the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM
TO MY
> > > > > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's
from
> > > > > South
> > > > > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an
"instant"
> > > > > > attraction
> > > > > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who
knows how
> > > > >
> > > > > > > long
> > > > > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > > > > advertising
> > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the
booze
> > > > > > ruined
> > > > > > > > him
> > > > > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and
friends
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but
he's
> > > > >
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last
night
> > > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering
over and
> > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
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> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sent:
> > > > Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to
get it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my
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> > > > > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your
husband,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > living
> > > > > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends
and do
> > > > > some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you
Anne!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it off my
> > > > >
> > > > > > > chest
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > > > > searching
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was
looking
> > > > > at
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a
quick
> > > > > > reader
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked
and then
> > > > >
> > > > > > he
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took
our car
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > went
> > > > > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his
wife. He
> > > > > > told
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take
off the
> > > > > > ring.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing
sexual,
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my
husband and
> > > > > even
> > > > > > > > tried
> > > > > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early
Spring,
> > > > > he
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > told
> > > > > > > > > me he was
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > > > > cousin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We
emailed
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > > > > apologized
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer
passed with
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once
during
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more.
Now that
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cold
> > > > > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been
getting
> > > > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > > > touch
> > > > > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle
again. I
> > > > > > told
> > > > > > > > him
> > > > > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking
to him
> > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about
were cut
> > > > > off
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together
more! I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more
often. He
> > > > > > told
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder
that I
> > > >
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > become
> > > > > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should
get a
> > > > > > > divorce.
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me
about his
> > > > > > cousin's
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he
told me to
> > > > > > email
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > him
> > > > > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get
together
> > > > > again.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still
married,
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > > cousin
> > > > > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him
and he gave
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper
article. He
> > > > > > asked
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime
believing any
> > > > > > man
> > > > > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to
come to my
> > > > > > > house,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One
who
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > give
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all
> > > > don't mind.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too.. I guess everybody wants
to be
> > > > > > > wanted.
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only
evolves
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > > better
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew
<no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to
get it off
> > > > >
> > > > my
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > chest
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how
can I
> > > > find
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47"
<mahhrene@
> > > > >
> > > > > > .>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your
childhood
> > > > > > > friends!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy
setting but
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one
and he
> > > > > said
> > > > > > > 'ok
> > > > > > > > ok
> > > > > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good
boy and
> > > > > > keep
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he
hadn't talked
> > > > > > > before,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was
scared of.
> > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
marillaandmatthew
> > > > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it
at all. In
> > > > >
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date.
Supposedly, I
> > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > dated
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was
waiting for
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he
was
> > > > > sitting
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood
behind me ,
> > > > > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a
childhood
> > > > > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our
table and
> > > > > > she
> > > > > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we
had been
> > > > > > dating
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a
dream, I
> > > > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > > see
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us
and
> > > > >
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes
trying to get
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2
daughters so
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > gave
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night!
Just
> > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > > share.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
marillaandmatthew
> > > > > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he
gives me a
> > > > > > > > horrified
> > > > > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe
I should.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina
Barnes
> > > > > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was
the same
> > > > > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his
girlfriend. Why
> > > > > can't
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > > > > either....when
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed
to be.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re:
Need to get
> > > > >
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Date:
> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This
reminds
> > > > > me
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten
years, an
> > > > > > Iranian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends
are. I
> > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with
several
> > > > > friend
> > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself
and not the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > family
> > > > > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your
days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We
came home
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing
ashes away
> > > > > from
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened
and he
> > > > > became
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne',
that's
> > > > > >
> > > > something
> > > > > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to
repeat
> > > > > > himself
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became
upset, got
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > kids
> > > > > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed.. I didn't want
to see him
> > > > > or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > talk
> > > > > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to
me.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't
in our bed.
> > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > went
> > > > > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I
> > > > went back to bed and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know
what I was
> > > > > > > talking
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh,
yea, I went
> > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he
said he
> > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me
for sex.
> > > > > He
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going
out. I
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > > asked
> > > > > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped
the
> > > > > subject.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he
compliments me
> > > > >
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like
'Shirley'
> > > > > would
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming
a bell
> > > > > went
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a
strip club.
> > > > > > But,
> > > > > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000
last year
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > one.
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I
tell him
> > > > >
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to
going. I
> > > > > wanted
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his
brother was
> > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and
talked to
> > > > > her
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could
get the
> > > > > jist
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started
playing 20
> > > > > > > > questions
> > > > > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to
play that
> > > > > game
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the
right
> > > > > > questions,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the
strip club.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > What
> > > > > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the
strip club
> > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > > > > teeth for the information. . Then, I questioned his
conversation with
> > > > > his
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family
outing.
> > > > > (WHY
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO
HAVE HER COME
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why
he
> > > > > > suggested
> > > > > > > > she
> > > > > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response?
"Oh, well
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > told
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I
laughed! "You
> > > > > did
> > > > > > > not!
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My name was never mentioned.." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no
he'll
> > > > > either
> > > > > > > > ignore
> > > > > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust
in him. He
> > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around
for
> > > > > > answers.
> > > > > > > He
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't
> > > > be a big
> > > > > > > deal.
> > > > > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for
me to go
> > > > > out
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset
and said I
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying
he
> > > > > wouldn't
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "do
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it
all? He went
> > > > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies
getting
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer
was $10.
> > > > > He
> > > > > > > says
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was
being
> > > > > given
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was
being
> > > > > > ignored.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying
to getaway
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very
quiet and
> > > > > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder
hair came up
> > > > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > me,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > grabbed
> > > > > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but
someone has to
> > > > >
> > > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to
hear to
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's
room (son
> > > > >
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy),
got into
> > > > > > bed
> > > > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I
told him I
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I
mean, how can
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he
was giving
> > > >
> > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > more like
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I
didn't
> > > > > have
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted
sex. He
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36
hours of
> > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> > > > > 1257
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#15070 From: seadoolover69
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:09 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
seadoolover69
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Ruth, it's very hard to put your child into the ground
or know they are away from you. Still, i betcha he doesn't
have the obit in his billfold or next to the urn?

Bri

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting point about the grief, I have a cousin who keeps his teen
daughter's ashes on his coffee table in an immaculate house.  I just kinda kept
staring at it as if hyptnotized......
>
>
> --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, seadoolover69 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Marilla, guys like married women for a reason.... they don't
> > want you to divorce so you cannot get overly attached to
> > them.
> >
> > Name me one person who has had a really horrible thing like
> > a death in the family who keeps the obit in their wallet, besides
> > this guy and the guy who killed his wife.
> >
> > Every widower and widow i know would be horrified to keep
> > the obit of their loved one in their billfold. That
> > screams red flag to me. That he then showed you the article
> > on the accident.. man... that's just creepy at that point.
> >
> > I've been through grief group over losing my son and i
> > don't know one person through all the groups through all
> > the years that kept the obit on them or even close by.
> > Many have a box of stuff with it stashed away, needing
> > to hold onto it but also not being willing to keep it
> > close at hand.
> >
> > Can you imagine keeping your husbands obit and you don't
> > even like him much? Now try to imagine being happily
> > married and holding onto an obit like that. Just not
> > gonna happen.
> >
> > Of course he didn't try anything on you.. he could see
> > you weren't ready for it. Guys like him move extremely
> > slowly. They generally have a few women on the same line
> > at the same time and they bring slowly reel you in.
> > Otherwise if they push to fast they know there's a good
> > chance of losing their fish.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Lyn,
> > >
> > > I'm not emotionally attached in a romantic sort of way.  He did show me
her obituary that he keeps in his wallet.  And then during a subsequent get
together, he showed me the article on the accident.
> > >
> > > I would think if he was really a bad guy, he would have tried something
but he hasn't and has even tried to help me get inside hubby's head.  He has
told me many times not to get a divorce so when he said it at this last meeting
it threw me through a loop
> > >
> > > Anne
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
men.  But how can you REALLY trust this guy.  See, my N lives two hours away and
led a double life.  If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
have found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there.  Well, I guess I'm d***
good at investigation because I keep finding more stuff........Found pics of him
and her dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
work.  I sat home alone.  AND THIS IS LOVE???  No 2 situations are the same;
just be careful about whom you give your heart to.  I'd hate to see it broken if
this guy turns out to be psycho.  He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
hope he is.  Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow?  You
should be able to find out on line for free by going to his county web site.
> > > >
> > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared.  He just
called and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with a
month ago.  She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
direction.  He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I met this nut on the internet too.  He's from South
Carolina and I flew down there to meet him.  It was an "instant" attraction
thing.  However, he is an alcoholic.  He is sober now, but who knows how long
that will last.  This man is 59 and was very very successful in advertising when
he was young and out of college with several degrees.  But the booze ruined him
near as I can tell.  He did introduce me to all his family and friends when I
was there (unlike most current n),  and has positive qualities, but he's just
looking for a free ride near as I can tell.  All this N chit is about to drive
me over the edge.  Not much sleep last night and tonight's not looking much
better.  Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and around me. 
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my chest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!!  As long as you are still with your husband,
living like you are, this should be a no no.  Seek out female friends and do
some bonding.  That is all I am going to say.  I am worried about you Anne!
> > > >
> > > > Hugs,
> > > > Star
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > >
> > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places.  I was searching
for a book on a certain subject as was he.  He commented on one I was looking at
and we chatted a little bit.  The next week when I went back (I'm a quick reader
if the book interests me) and he was there again.  Again we talked and then he
asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat.  So, we each took our car and went
to a diner.  He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife.  He told me
he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the ring.  We
got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall.  Nothing sexual, just
eating and talking.  He listened to me complain about my husband and even tried
to give me advice from where my husband was coming from.  Early Spring, he told
me he was
> > > >  moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter.  His cousin
had lost her job and he was going to help out with finances.  We emailed back
and forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked.  He apologized
but since he was a contractor I told him I understood.  Summer passed with an
occasional, "I hope you're doing ok".  We did get together once during the
summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more.  Now that the cold
weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting in touch
with me more often.  I even agreed to meet him in the middle again.  I told him
how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him because he
was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut off from
me.  He actually apologized for not being able to get together more!  I have
never heard a guy apologize before!!!  He said I
> > > >  seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often.  He
told me he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
have become used to it.  He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
divorce.  I told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
cousin's divorce and it's effects on her daughter.  Before I left he told me to
email him if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
again.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking.  He is still married, his
cousin is really his wife, etc.  But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
me details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article.  He asked
if I trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any man
because of hubby.  He said he understood.  He never asked to come to my house,
to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > >  that.  I think I just might have found a man I can trust!  One who can
give me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > >
> > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.
> > > >
> > > > Anne
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Regina Barnes
<ginateresawoohoo@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anne,  I so want that 'dream' too.  I guess everybody wants to be
wanted.  I want a best friend too!  I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
into better understanding with the right person....
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find
this "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anne
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
.> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
friends! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but the
last sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he said
'ok ok
> > > >  you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
keep talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
before, he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
I am now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
<no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
this dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I had
dated him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
someone and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
sitting at the bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood
behind me , caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > >  friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
she asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been dating
for a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I couldn't
see his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and was
so happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get back
into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so it gave
me some hope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
thought I'd share.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
<no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
horrified look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I
should.
> > > > > >
> > > >  > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
<ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why can't they
'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well either....when you
marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it off my chest
> > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > > Date:
> > > >  Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds me
of some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an Iranian,
and I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I remember
frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several friend while
they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
family unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > >  marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
from dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away from
the door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he became
irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's something
'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat himself and
he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got the kids
ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him or talk
to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed. I
went downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and the
next morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > >  where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
talking about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
to 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he didn't
want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex. He could
at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I then asked
what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the subject. Okay,
no big deal.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
on something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley' would
have done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell went
off in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club. But,
nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year at one.
Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > >  if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
that he is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
wanted to have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother
was here.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to her
in their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the jist of
the conversation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
questions with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
game but he didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
questions, I found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip
club. What kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
instead of telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > >  teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with his
mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing. (WHY CAN'T
WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME ALONG?)
Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he suggested she
go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well I told
her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You did not!
My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > >  it ok
> > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll either
ignore me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
actually asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
answers. He said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a
big deal. So, I
> > > >  through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go out
in the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he wouldn't "do
it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went to the
strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting anything but
a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10. He says
that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being given
the silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being ignored.
I couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway from
them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up to me,
grabbed
> > > >  my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
tell you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
start crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
had a bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
bed next to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him
I couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can you
tell your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
didn't even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > >  more like
> > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't have
to get up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He was
trying to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
free time
> > > >  from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the 1257
messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.runboard.com/bnarcissisticabuserecovery
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#15069 From: seadoolover69
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: GRRRRRR
seadoolover69
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Star, i had that happen before too. One night i posted like
3 posts and realized none were actually going through and
i'm on Explorer! I think yahoo just has many problems.
I waited about 2 hours, cleaned out my cookies and all that,
and it all worked well again.

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Star Light <stargazingforever@...>
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trouble.  It says my firefox isn't responding but it only does it in yahell!  I
went to the website and had trouble there too so my mail and the website is
giving me trouble.  Going to reboot and see if that helps!!!
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#15067 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
ginateresawo...
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LMBO....Lyn and Star!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:22 PM

 
Who let the dogs out?  Who who who? 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



hehehehehehe


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:47:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



They might as well be dogs......wait a minute...... they are lol

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Amen, Star and Lyn!!!  They don't attach emotions with sex.  I do,....just like you do. 
They could care less....it's all just about the act and self gratification!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:54 PM

 
You said it Lyn!  We do it when we like them and care about them, they do just to do it!


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:45:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



It pisses me off!  I know, looking back, I had sex with xn way too soon because, for me, and I think most women, I bond with a man if I have sex with him.  For him it was just sex.  So no more "bonding" for me.  LOL

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Doesn't that just piss you off?  It's like, dude....do you think I'm a ho or something??? ??

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:34 PM

 
That is so true.  When I was broke up once with my N for almost a year I tried dating and that's what they all wanted!!!!  It freaked me out!!!  I just want a friend, someone to go dancing with or other things not someone who is trying to jump my bones every minute!!!


From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:07:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



LOL...Lyn.  I've heard that too.  Everybody tells me to quit looking and he'll pop up.  Yeah, well, I quit looking and what popped up??  Another controlling N. 
Yes, most guys want sex right off the bat anyway.

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:55 PM

 
Nope, not looking here either.  It's been said a good guy will appear when you least expect it.  Well, I least expect it, and wouldn't want him now if he did appear.  I just want to be left alone.  Thinking about sex with another man makes me want to puke........ and they all want that on the first date....it seems anyway.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Saba,  I wish I knew where the good guys are.....starting to doubt that one will ever cross my path....Because I'm SURE not looking anymore.

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:07 PM

 
You're right about the net. I would add religious conferences, social events, networking events, etc. on there as well. LOL! No joke, b/c I've seen some N's there as well. So, where are the good guys?

LOL!

--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ ...>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
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> > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard
> anything all day......... so hope they
> > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when they've
> > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I busted
> > him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I did
> > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists
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> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
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> > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you aren't
> > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by 2 ns
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
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> > > > Saba.
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> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
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> > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > > because
> > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > sneezing.... ...yuk.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > chest
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> > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
>
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > anything
> > > > from
> > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love
> > > > busting
> > > > > ns lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> > > chest
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > > other
> > > > by
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to
> >
> > > > feel
> > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to
> > > the
> > > > > curb
> > > > > > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > > where
> > > > I
> > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > > Carolina.
> > > >
> > > > > The
> > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I
> > have
> > >
> > > > not
> > > > >
> > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your
> > > > support,
> > > > >
> > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not
> > need
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > stress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all
>
> > > those
> > > >
> > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with
> > > men.
> > > >
> >
> > > > But
> > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and
> > led
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
> >
> > > > good
> > > > > at
> > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > her
> > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to
> > > > work.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just
> >
> > > be
> > > > > > careful about whom
> you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I
> > > hope
> > > >
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You
> > > > should
> > > > >
> > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He
> > just
> > > > > called
> > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with
> > a
> > > > > month
> > > > > > ago. She lives in
> the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
> >
> > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from
> > South
> > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > > attraction
> > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how
> >
> > > > long
> > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > advertising
> > > > > when
> > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze
> > > ruined
> > > > > him
> > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends
> > > when
> > > > I
> > >
> > > > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's
> >
> > > > just
> > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night
> > and
> > >
> > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and
> > > > around
> > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lyn
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent:
> Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
> > off
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,
> >
> > > > > living
> > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do
> > some
> > >
> > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Star
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
> >
> > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > searching
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking
> > at
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick
> > > reader
> > > >
> > > > > if
> > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then
> >
> > > he
>
> > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car
> > > and
> > > > > went
> > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the
> > > ring.
> > > >
> > > > > We
> > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual,
> > > just
> > > >
> > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and
> > even
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring,
> > he
> > >
> > > > > told
> > > > > > me he was
> > > >
> > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > cousin
> > >
> > > > had
> > > > >
> > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed
> > back
> > > > and
> > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > apologized
> > >
> > > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with
> > an
> > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during
> > the
> > >
> > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that
> > the
> > >
> > > > > cold
> > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting
> > in
>
> > > > > touch
> > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I
> > > told
> > > > > him
> > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him
> > > > because
> > > > > he
> > > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut
> > off
> > > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I
>
> > have
> > > > > become
> > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a
> > > > divorce.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > > cousin's
> > > >
> > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to
> > > email
> > > >
> > > > > him
> > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together
> > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married,
> > his
> > > > > cousin
> > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave
>
> >
> > > me
> > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He
> > > asked
> > > > if
> > > > > I
> > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any
> > > man
> > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my
> > > > house,
> > > > >
> > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who
> > can
> > > > give
> > > > >
> > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all
> don't mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be
> > > > wanted.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves
> > into
> > > > > better
>
> > > > > > understanding with the right person....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
> >
> my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I
> find
> > > this
> > > >
> > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@
> >
> > > .>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood
> > > > friends!
> > > > >
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> > the
> > >
> > > > > last
> > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he
> > said
> > > > 'ok
> > > > > ok
> > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and
> > > keep
> > > >
> > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked
> > > > before,
> > > > >
> > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of.
> > I
> > >
> > > > am
> > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In
> >
> > > > this
> > > > > > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> > had
> > >
> > > > > dated
>
> > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for
> >
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> > sitting
> > > at
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,
> > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and
> > > she
> > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been
> > > dating
> > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > see
> > > >
> > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and
> >
> > > was
> > > >
> > > > > so
> > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get
> > > back
> > > >
> > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so
> > it
> > > > gave
> > > > >
> > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > > thought
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > share.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew
> > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a
> > > > > horrified
> > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same
> > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why
> > can't
> > >
> > > > > they
> > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > either....when
> > > >
> > > > > you
> > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
> >
> > > it
> > > > > off
> > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> Date:
> > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds
> > me
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an
> > > Iranian,
> > >
> > > and
> > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I
> > > remember
> > > > > > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several
> > friend
> > > > > while
> > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the
> >
> > > > > family
> > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home
> > > from
> > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away
> > from
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he
> > became
> > >
> > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > >
> something
> > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat
> > > himself
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got
> > > the
> > > > > kids
> > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him
> > or
> > >
> > > > > talk
> > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed.
> > I
> > >
> > > > > went
> > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I
> went back to bed and
> > > the
> > > > > next
> > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was
> > > > talking
> > > > >
> > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went
> > to
> > >
> > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he
> > > didn't
> > > >
> > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex.
> > He
> > >
> > > > > could
> > > > > > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I
> > then
> > > > > asked
> > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> > subject.
>
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me
> >
> > > on
> > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley'
> > would
> > >
> > > > > have
> > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell
> > went
> > >
> > > > off
> > > > >
> > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club.
> > > But,
> > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year
> > at
> > > > one.
> > > > >
>
> > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him
> >
> > > > that
> > > > > he
> > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I
> > wanted
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was
> > > > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to
> > her
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the
> > jist
> > > of
> > > >
> >
> > > > the
> > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20
> > > > > questions
> > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that
> > game
> > > > but
> > > > > he
> > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > > questions,
> > > > I
> > > > >
> > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.
> >
> > > > What
> > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club
> > > > instead
> > > > > of
>
> > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with
> > his
> > >
> > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing.
> > (WHY
> > >
> > > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME
> >
> > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > > suggested
> > > > > she
> > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well
> > I
> > > > told
> > > > >
> > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You
> > did
> > > > not!
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> > either
> > > > > ignore
> > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for
> > > answers.
> > > > He
> > > > >
> > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't
> be a big
> > > > deal.
> > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go
> > out
> > >
> > > > in
> > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> > wouldn't
> > >
> > > > "do
> > > > >
> > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went
> >
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting
> > > anything
> > > >
> > > > > but
> > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10.
> > He
> > > > says
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being
> > given
> > > > the
> > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being
> > > ignored.
> > > > I
> > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and
> > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up
> >
> > > to
> > > > > me,
> > > > > >
> grabbed
> > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to
> >
> > > > tell
> > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to
> > > start
> > > >
> > > > > > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son
> >
> > > had
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into
> > > bed
> > > > > next
> > > > > > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I
> >
> > > > > > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can
> > > you
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving
>
> > > > didn't
> > > > >
> > > > > > even feel like comfort. It felt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > more like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't
> > have
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > get
> > > > > > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He
> > was
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of
> > > free
> > > > > time
> > > >
> > > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the
> > 1257
> > > > > > messages that need to be read from all of you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Narcissistic Abuse Recovery - click on this link:
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
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#15066 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR
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Star,
 
You're not alone!!  I have been having trouble with Yahoo mail for 2 days now!! It's not happening on any other thing, but yahoo's email.
 
Did you ever rectify the problem?
 
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From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:47 PM

 
Ghost Ns probably

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: P & N Group <Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 4:15 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] GRRRRRR



I have been trying to answer one post forever and am having nothing but trouble.  It says my firefox isn't responding but it only does it in yahell!  I went to the website and had trouble there too so my mail and the website is giving me trouble.  Going to reboot and see if that helps!!!

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#15063 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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Thanks!  I always offer to pay on the first date and sometimes subsequent dates.  I know so much more now after dealing with an n. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: seadoolover69 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 9:31 am
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Lyn, that's why you have to be slightly rude up front. 
A date is a date and it entitles you to nothing. Saying
it up front always helpful. Then tell them that you are
going to pay half the bill for the first few dates to see
how it even goes. :)

I used to be known as a bit of a bitch in the bars when i
used to go to them. My friends and i often put up a small
cardboard sign that says sending over a drink entitles you
to nothing more than a smile. People thought we were crazy
but it weeded out tons of jerks from the git go.

It is often true the moment you stop looking more start
appearing that are half way decent guys. Kind of like
getting pregnant... work hard at it and it doesn't happen
very easily.... just go out and have fun and forget about
it and wham.... :)

Bri

--- In Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com, lyndieayn@... wrote:
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:07 pm
> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
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> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
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> To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
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least expect it. Well, I least expect it, and wouldn't want him now if he did
appear. I just want to be left alone. Thinking about sex with another man
makes me want to puke........ and they all want that on the first date....it
seems anyway.
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> From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
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> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:07 PM
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networking events, etc. on there as well. LOL! No joke, b/c I've seen some N's
there as well. So, where are the good guys?
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> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
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> > I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites. How else are they going to
find victims? I'm so done with it. I have several guys who've contacted me (like
I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying. I've
even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number! I never did that
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> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@
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> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
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I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them
are married or just looking for another bed partner. I feel like the "good" guys
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> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
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> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM
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just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from
the internet again. Barf
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> > Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I
said I would
> if he would. So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't.
> >
> > He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that
he was not to use his work puter for dating sites. He doesn't have a puter at
home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library. What a dunce. What
did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> > They are so stupid and so desperate for
> attention! Mine said the same thing!! That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
> >
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> > I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles
because he doesn't have a life. He lives in front of the computer searching for
women. Pitiful....
> >
> >
> > Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
> >
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> >
> > From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM
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> > I agree! They are so stupid, aren't they? I even confronted my xn about
it.....actually I did it several times. He said he knew it was me,
> that's why he hit on it. Yeah, right. LOL. That doesn't even make any kind of
sense, even to an n.
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> > Lyn
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> > Lyn,
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> > I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN. He also hit
on it too. All he did was brag about himself. That's kinda how I found out who
he really is....
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> > So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes
> you a good investigator. ..LOL
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> > G
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> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:
> >
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> > From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM
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> > LOL........haven' t had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or
later. Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a
fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!! Does that make me
an n or just a smarter person? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L
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> > Lyn
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
> > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> > I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N. Posing as someone else
on the internet. I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM
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> > Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me
emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send
me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no
idea where I am.
> >
> > I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just
wanted more N supply.
> >
> > He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At
one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later
found out it was him.
> >
> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ . wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Right, supposedly ignoring them drives them over the edge!!!!!!!! !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyn
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> >
> canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:27 am
> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> > > That's true that they do come back. Just keep strong. I've also heard they
go
> > > away when you ignore them.
> > >
> > > Saba.
> > >
> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again, Saba........ haven't heard
> > anything all day......... so hope they
> > > are gone for good!!!! But like I've read, they always come back when
they've
> > > lost "supply". That's why the one I met 3 years ago showed up. But I
busted
> > >
> him with his current girlfriend. I hope she's not unhappy with me because I
did
> > > her a huge favor. Oh well, life goes on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:58 pm
> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists
> > group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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> > > > I'm sorry Lyn honey, that you're having to go through what you are going

> > > > through. I hope they both leave
> you alone soon.
> > > >
> > > > saba.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed. I hope you
aren't
> > > > getting sick. I haven't felt very well all weekend. Being "attacked" by
2 ns
> > >
> > > > hasn't helped any. All is quiet for now. Hope it's not the lull before
the
> > > > storm lol.
> > > > >
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> >
> > > > > Lyn
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> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > >
> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
> > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my
chest
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> > > > > Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with

> > > that
> >
> > > > > website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.

> > > > >
> > > > > I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saba.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba, I'm sorry, I
> don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though
> > > > because
> > > > > my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes,
> > > sneezing.... ...yuk.
> > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am
> > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off
my
> > > chest
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard
> > > anything
> > > > > from
> > > > > > the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just
love
> > > > > busting
> > > > > > ns lol.
> > > > > > >
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> >
> > > > > > Lyn
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm
> > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my
> > > > chest
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each
> > > > other
> > > > > by
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has
to
> > >
> > > > > feel
> > > > > > > she's competing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glad to hear your keeping strong.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saba.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his
@ss to
> > > > the
> > > > > > curb
> > > > > > >
> soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... .........
.......not
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know
> > > > where
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South
> > > > Carolina.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him.
I
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > > not
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for
your
> > > > > support,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to
> me; I do not
> > > need
> > > >
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > stress.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lyn
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > > off
> > > > my
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > chest
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> > > > > > > > Lyn,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of
all
> >
> > > > those
> > > > >
> > > > > > > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > > Star
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>
> > > > > >
> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > > off
> > > > my
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> > > > > > > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up
with
> > > > men.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > But
> > > > > > > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away
and
> > > led
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would
never
> > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > > found out he has a
> girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***
> > >
> > > > > good
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics
of him
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > her
> > > > > > > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he
had to
> > > > > work.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same;
just
> > >
> > > > be
> > > > > > > careful about whom
> > you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice
man.......and I
> > > > hope
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > he
> > > > > > > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow?
You
> > > > > should
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county
> > > > > > > > web site.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared.
He
> > > just
> > > > > > called
> > > > > > > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in
with
> > > a
> > > > > > month
> > > > > > > ago. She lives in
> > the same state as I, again, two hours away in another
> > >
> > > > > > > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND
> BRING HIM TO MY
> > > > > > > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from

> > > South
> > > > > > > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant"
> > > > attraction
> > > > > > > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows
how
> > >
> > > > > long
> > > > > > > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in
> > > > advertising
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the
booze
> > > > ruined
> > > > > > him
> > > > > > > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and
friends
> > > > when
> > > > > I
> > > >
> > > > > was there (unlike most current n),
> and has positive qualities, but he's
> > >
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N
> > > > > > > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last
night
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over
and
> > > > > around
> > > > > > > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > Sent:
> > Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it
> > > off
> > > > my
> > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your
husband,
> > >
> > > > > >
> living
> > > > > > > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and
do
> > > some
> > > >
> > > > > > > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you
Anne!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hugs,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Star
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> > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew
> <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it
off my
> > >
> > > > > chest
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was
> > > searching
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was
looking
> > > at
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a
quick
> > > > reader
> > > > >
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and
then
> > >
> > > > he
> >
> > > > > > > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our
car
> > > > and
> > > > > > went
> > > > > > > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife.
He
> > > > told
> > > > > me
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off
the
> > > > ring.
> > > > >
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing
> sexual,
> > > > just
> > > > >
> > > > > > > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband
and
> > > even
> > > > > > tried
> > > > > > > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early
Spring,
> > > he
> > > >
> > > > > > told
> > > > > > > me he was
> > > > >
> > > > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His
> > > cousin
> > > >
> > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We
emailed
> > > back
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He
> > > apologized
> > > >
> > > > > but
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed
with
> > > an
> > > > > > > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once
during
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now
that
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > cold
> > > > > > > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been
getting
> > > in
> >
> > > > > > touch
> > > > > > > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again.
I
> > > > told
> > > > > > him
> > > > > > > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to
him
> > > > > because
> > > > > > he
> > >
> > > > > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut

> > > off
> > > > > from
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together
more! I
> > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I
> > > > > > > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often.
He
> > > > told
> > > > > me
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that
I
> >
> > > have
> > > > > > become
> > > > > > > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get
a
> > > > > divorce.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > told him I was
> worried about the kids and then he told me about his
> > > > cousin's
> > > > >
> > > > > > > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me
to
> > > > email
> > > > >
> > > > > > him
> > > > > > > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get
together
> > > again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still
married,
> > > his
> > > > > > cousin
> > > > > > > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he
gave
> >
> > >
> > > > me
> > > > > > > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article.
He
> > > > asked
>
> > > > > if
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime
believing any
> > > > man
> > > > > > > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to
my
> > > > > house,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of
> > > > > > > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who

> > > can
> > > > > give
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > me moral support without asking for anything in return,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all
> > don't mind.
> > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes
> > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to
be
> > > > > wanted.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only
evolves
> > > into
> > > > > > better
> >
> > > > > > > understanding with the right
> person....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p
s.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get
it off
> > >
> > my
> > > >
> > > > > > chest
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I
> > find
> > > > this
> > > > >
> > > > > > > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47"
<mahhrene@
> > >
> > > > .>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your
childhood
> > > > > friends!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out
> of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and
he
> > > said
> > > > > 'ok
> > > > > > ok
> > > > > > > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy
and
> > > > keep
> > > > >
> > > > > > > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't
talked
> > > > > before,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was
scared of.
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew

> > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at
all. In
> > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > dream, I
> was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I
> > > had
> > > >
> > > > > > dated
> >
> > > > > > > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was
waiting for
> > >
> > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was
> > > sitting
> > > > at
> > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind
me ,
> > > > > > > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood
> > > > > > > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table
and
> > > > she
> > > > > > > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had
been
> > > > dating
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I

> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > see
> > > > >
> > > > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and

> > >
> > > > was
> > > > >
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying
to get
> > > > back
> > > > >
> > > > > > > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2
daughters so
> > > it
> > > > > gave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > me some hope.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just
> > > > thought
> > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > share.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
marillaandmatthew
> > > > > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he
> gives me a
> > > > > > horrified
> > > > > > > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I
should.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes

> > > > > > > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and
> he was the same
> > > > > > > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend.
Why
> > > can't
> > > >
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well
> > > > either....when
> > > > >
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to
be.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need
to get
> > >
> > > > it
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > my chest
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > Date:
> > > > > > > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This
reminds
> > > me
> > > > of
> > > > >
> > > > > > > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an

> > > > Iranian,
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I

> > > > remember
> > > > > > > frequent all day
> visits watching him while he visited with several
> > > friend
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and
not the
> > >
> > > > > > family
> > > > > > > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your
days.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
> > > > > > > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came
home
> > > > from
> > > > > > > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes
away
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and
he
> > > became
> > > >
> > > > > > > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's
> > >
> >
> > something
> > > > > > > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to
repeat
> > > > himself
> > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became
upset, got
> > > > the
> > > > > > kids
> > > > > > > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to
see him
> > > or
> > > >
> > > > > > talk
> > > > > > > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in
our bed.
> > > I
> > > >
> >
> > > > > went
> > > > > > > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I
> > went back to bed and
> > > > the
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > morning he is back in bed. I asked him
> > > > > > > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I
was
> > > > > talking
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I
went
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said
he
> > > > didn't
> > > > >
> > > > > > > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for
sex.
> > > He
> > > >
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > at least have told me
> where he was going or that he was going out. I
> > > then
> > > > > > asked
> > > > > > > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the
> > > subject.
> >
> > > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > > no big deal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he
compliments me
> > >
> > > > on
> > > > > > > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like
'Shirley'
> > > would
> > > >
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a
bell
> > > went
> > > >
> > > > >
> off
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip
club.
> > > > But,
> > > > > > > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last
year
> > > at
> > > > > one.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him
> > > > > > > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I
tell him
> > >
> > > > > that
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going.
I
> > > wanted
> > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his
brother was
> > > > > here.
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked
to
> > > her
> > > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > > > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get
the
> > > jist
> > > > of
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started
playing 20
> > > > > > questions
> > > > > > > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play
that
> > >
> game
> > > > > but
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right
> > > > questions,
> > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip
club.
> > >
> > > > > What
> > > > > > > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip
club
> > > > > instead
> > > > > > of
> >
> > > > > > > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull
> > > > > > > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation
with
> > > his
> > > >
> > > > > > > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family
outing.
> > > (WHY
> > > >
> > >
> > > > CAN'T
> > > > > > > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE
HER COME
> > >
> > > > > > ALONG?)
> > > > > > > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he
> > > > suggested
> > > > > > she
> > > > > > > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh,
well
> > > I
> > > > > told
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed!
"You
> > > did
> > > > > not!
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it ok
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll
> > > either
> > > > > > ignore
> > > > > > > me or call her and blame it on me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in
him. He
> > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for

> > > > answers.
> > > > > He
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't
> > be a big
> > > > > deal.
> > > > > > > So, I
> > > > > > > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for
> me to go
> > > out
> > > >
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and
said I
> > >
> > > > > > > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he
> > > wouldn't
> > > >
> > > > > "do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all?
He went
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies
getting
> > > > anything
> > > > >
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was
$10.
> > > He
> > > > > says
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was
being
> > > given
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being

> > > > ignored.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to
getaway
> > > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > > > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very
quiet and
> > > > > > > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair
came up
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > >
> me,
> > > > > > >
> > grabbed
> > > > > > > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone
has to
> > >
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to
hear to
> > > > start
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room (son
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him I
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how can
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#15059 From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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LMAO.....Lyn.....Actually BOTH of them did!!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:13 PM

 
Does the car need the body work or does he?  ROF

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Yeah, mine likes Corvettes.  He thinks his ugly a** is all that in the Vette.  When, it's really a big disappointment to see a scraggly old fart climbing out of an old Vette in bad need of body work....LMAO

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:50 PM

 
I am laughing so hard.  This guy is a nut case.  He needs a new car and not long ago, he sent me an email with pics of a short limo (I never knew there was such a thing)...... .....that he was thinking about buying.  Sorry, I'm choking for real.  He said it would be nice for traveling.  My girlfriend said what's he gonna do take a crap in the back?  OMG......... and I can just see a limo parked in front of his piece of chit house.....lolllllll llllllll

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Ewwwwwwwww, that IS crappy!  I would be embarrassed to invite someone over when my toilet didn't work and no paper!  Geez!!!!!!!! !!!!!  Stupid N's!!!!

Star


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:36:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I'm not going tomorrow; he just doesn't know it yet lol.  My daughter and her boyfriend are coming Thursday so I need to get a FEW things done before they get here.  Like buy toilet paper.  Which leads me to the story of my xn not having toilet paper when I went to his house.  Well, it didn't matter because his toilet didn't work.  I shook my finger at him and told him "How dare you invite me to your (crappy, no pun intended) house, and not have t p or a working toilet!"  STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPID JERK!!!!!!!! !!!

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



If you don't want to go tomorrow.... ........don' t!  See that was easy wasn't it?  lol  I hate to be pressured into things by people!  I use to have a hard time saying no to anybody but had to learn to be assertive finally.  I just took on too much and needed to think of myself for once.  I'm glad you are feeling better!  We are getting rain today, you must be in a different part of the state from me.  Just be careful if you do go!!!!

Hugs,
Star


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:03:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I am feeling better today....... thanks.  I just realized I haven't left the house in a week.  That is not good.  I have rxs I need to pick up and I don't even want to go to the drive through pharmacy.  My dad wants me to take him to see my brother tomorrow.... ...2 hours there, 2 hours back, and however many spent there.  Dad knows I haven't been feeling well and I really don't think I can do that all in one day.  Besides, it's supposed to rain tomorrow; driving in the rain makes it worse.  I have plenty of excuses lol.  Just don't wanna....... that's the best one!

I hope you are feeling better! 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Light <stargazingforever@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I hope you are feeling better today Lyn!  Don't need everyone getting sick.  I had a day and night from he%%!  But so far today the pain is gone, hope it stays gone!  Hope my antibiotic works!  Take care of yourself if you are still feeling bad sweetie!!  Keep us posted.

Hugs,
Star


From: "lyndieayn@aol. com" <lyndieayn@aol. com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 6:47:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



It's ok, Saba........ I forget stuff when I'm stressed.  I hope you aren't getting sick.  I haven't felt very well all weekend.  Being "attacked" by 2 ns hasn't helped any.  All is quiet for now.  Hope it's not the lull before the storm lol.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 6:07 pm
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest

Oh... sorry. I got it wrong. It wasn't you who was having trouble with that 















website, it was someone else... I don't know why I thought it was you.































I think I might be coming down with something. Sorry Lyn.































Saba.































--- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@.. . wrote:















>















>















> Saba, I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. I plead the 5th though because















my allergies are driving me nuts..headache and runny eyes, sneezing.... ...yuk.















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> Lyn















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>















> -----Original Message-----















> From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>















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> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56 am















> Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest















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> Lyn: How's the issue with the website going? Any resolution?















>















> Saba.















>















> --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:















> >















> >















> > That sounds about right....... typical n bs. LOL Haven't heard anything















from















> the first n since I wrote to his girlfriend and busted him. I just love















busting















> ns lol.















> >















> >















> >















> > Lyn















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> >















> > -----Original Message-----















> > From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>















> > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com















> > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 7:50 pm















> > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest















> >















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> > Someone once told me that N's turn women in their lives against each other















by















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> > building one up really high in front of the other. So, the other has to















feel















> > she's competing.















> >















> > Glad to hear your keeping strong.















> >















> > Saba.















> >















> > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, lyndieayn@ wrote:















> > >















> > >















> > > Nope........ .told him to get lost. The girlfriend kicked his @ss to the















> curb















> > soooooooooo he wants to come here and live with me.......... ......... .......not































>















> > that stupid! But who needs this stress. Thankfully, he doesn't know where















I















> > live!!!!!!!! !! I told him to get on the bus and go back to South Carolina.































> The















> > girlfriend has emailed me totally p**** accusing me of seeing him. I have















not















>















> > seen this rat b**** in 3 years and never will again! Thanks for your















support,















>















> > mother hen lol. I am blocking them both from writing to me; I do not need















> this















> > stress.















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> > >















> > > Lyn















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > -----Original Message-----















> > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@>















> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com















> > > Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 11:46 am















> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my































> > chest















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> > > I just hope you don't return this guys calls!!!! Steer clear of all those































> > losers!! I worry about everyone, geez, mother hen here!!! LOL















> > >















> > > Hugs,















> > > Star















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > From: "lyndieayn@" <lyndieayn@>















> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com















> > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:54:14 PM















> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my































> > chest















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> > > I'm not one to give advice, because I have certainly messed up with men.































> But















> > how can you REALLY trust this guy. See, my N lives two hours away and led a































> > double life. If I weren't halfway good at investigation, I would never have































> > found out he has a girlfriend of 10 years there. Well, I guess I'm d***















good















> at















> > investigation because I keep finding more stuff....... .Found pics of him and































> her















> > dancing on New Year's eve at his country club when he told me he had to















work.















> I















> > sat home alone. AND THIS IS LOVE??? No 2 situations are the same; just be















> > careful about whom you give your heart to. I'd hate to see it broken if















this















> > guy turns out to be psycho. He may be a perfectly nice man.......and I hope































> he















> > is. Can you find out from public records if he really is a widow? You















should















>















> > be able to find out on line for free by going to his county















> > > web site.















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > OKKKKK I told you all the N I knew 3 years ago has reappeared. He just















> called















> > and left a voice mail that he wants to leave the woman he moved in with a















> month















> > ago. She lives in the same state as I, again, two hours away in another















> > direction. He wants me to PICK HIM UP TOMORROW AND BRING HIM TO MY















> > HOUSE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! I met this nut on the internet too. He's from South















> > Carolina and I flew down there to meet him. It was an "instant" attraction















> > thing. However, he is an alcoholic. He is sober now, but who knows how















long















> > that will last. This man is 59 and was very very successful in advertising















> when















> > he was young and out of college with several degrees. But the booze ruined















> him















> > near as I can tell. He did introduce me to all his family and friends when















I















> > was there (unlike most current n), and has positive qualities, but he's















just















> > looking for a free ride near as I can tell. All this N















> > > chit is about to drive me over the edge. Not much sleep last night and















> > tonight's not looking much better. Now I have 2 ns hoovering over and















around















> > me. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ















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> > >















> > > -----Original Message-----















> > >















> > > From: Star Light <stargazingforever@>















> > >















> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com















> > >















> > > Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 4:11 pm















> > >















> > > Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my































> > chest















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> > > Red flags, red flags!!!!! As long as you are still with your husband,















> living















> > like you are, this should be a no no. Seek out female friends and do some















> > bonding. That is all I am going to say. I am worried about you Anne!















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > Hugs,















> > >















> > > Star















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> > >















> > >















> > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>















> > >















> > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com















> > >















> > > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 2:32:35 PM















> > >















> > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my















chest















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > I met a guy last winter, in the library of all places. I was searching















for















> a















> > book on a certain subject as was he. He commented on one I was looking at















and















>















> > we chatted a little bit. The next week when I went back (I'm a quick reader































> if















> > the book interests me) and he was there again. Again we talked and then he















> > asked me if I wanted to go get a bite to eat. So, we each took our car and















> went















> > to a diner. He asked about my husband and I asked about his wife. He told















me















>















> > he was a widower of 3 years but couldn't bring himself to take off the ring.































> We















> > got together off and on for lunch or to walk the mall. Nothing sexual, just































> > eating and talking. He listened to me complain about my husband and even















> tried















> > to give me advice from where my husband was coming from. Early Spring, he















> told















> > me he was















> > > moving next state over to help his cousin and her daughter. His cousin















had















>















> > lost her job and he was going to help out with finances. We emailed back















and















> > forth until the nice weather came and then w hardly talked. He apologized















but















>















> > since he was a contractor I told him I understood. Summer passed with an















> > occasional, "I hope you're doing ok". We did get together once during the















> > summer where we both met in the middle and talked some more. Now that the















> cold















> > weather is here and his job is slowing down again, he has been getting in















> touch















> > with me more often. I even agreed to meet him in the middle again. I told















> him















> > how things have been going with hubby and how I missed talking to him















because















> he















> > was my one and only friend since all others hubby knew about were cut off















from















>















> > me. He actually apologized for not being able to get together more! I have































> > never heard a guy apologize before!!! He said I















> > > seemed upset and he was sorry for not contacting me more often. He told















me















>















> > he didn't know things had gotten so bad and it is even sadder that I have















> become















> > used to it. He said he never thought he'd say it but I should get a















divorce.















> I















> > told him I was worried about the kids and then he told me about his cousin's































> > divorce and it's effects on her daughter. Before I left he told me to email































> him















> > if I needed to talk and we would either chat online or get together again.















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. He is still married, his















> cousin















> > is really his wife, etc. But I did do 20 questions with him and he gave me















> > details on the accident and even showed me the newspaper article. He asked















if















> I















> > trusted him and I did tell hiim I was having a hard tiime believing any man















> > because of hubby. He said he understood. He never asked to come to my















house,















>















> > to go to his house, to go to a hotel/motel, none of















> > > that. I think I just might have found a man I can trust! One who can















give















>















> > me moral support without asking for anything in return,















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > I just had to tell someone and hope you all don't mind.















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > Anne















> > >















> > >















> > >















> > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@>































> > wrote:















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > > Anne, I so want that 'dream' too. I guess everybody wants to be















wanted.















> I















> > want a best friend too! I want that giddy feeling that only evolves into















> better















> > understanding with the right person....















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>















wrote:















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > > From: marillaandmatthew <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>















> > >















> > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my















> chest















> > >















> > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com















> > >















> > > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:00 PM















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > > Not wondering about childhood friends but more about how can I find this































> > "dream" guy. I still get goosebumps thinking of that dream.















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > > Anne















> > >















> > > >















> > >















> > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ruthandjim47" <mahhrene@ .>















> > wrote:















> > >















> > > > >















> > >















> > > > > Does sound nice! Bet you are now wondering about your childhood















friends!















>















> > :)















> > >















> > > > >















> > >















> > > > > My dreams seem to be usually out of a sci-fi/fantasy setting but the















> last















> > sorta normal dream I had was I was playing with my little one and he said















'ok















> ok















> > > you win I will talk!' and I said 'are you going to be a good boy and keep































> > talking?' and he said 'yes!' and when I asked him why he hadn't talked















before,















>















> > he said he was scared to, but I didn't understand what he was scared of. I















am















> > now wondering if that is one reason he isn't talking!















> > >















> > > > >















> > >















> > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. .........















> > >















> > > > >















> > >















> > > > >















> > >















> > > > >















> > >















> > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew















<no_reply@>















>















> > wrote:















> > >















> > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > I had another dream last night except he wasn't in it at all. In















this















> > dream, I was at a casual restaraunt waiting for my date. Supposedly, I had















> dated















> > him more that once. A woman came up to me and asked if I was waiting for















> someone















> > and I told her yes and I looked around the place and there he was sitting at































> the















> > bar watching me with a big smile. He walked up to me, stood behind me ,















> > caressing my arm, and introduced the woman to me as a childhood















> > > friend he hadn't seen for years. We started walking to our table and she















> > asked us about our relationship and his life. He told her we had been dating































> for















> > a couple of years and that he had 2 daughters. It being a dream, I couldn't















> see















> > his face but saw the salt and pepper hair, felt the spark between us and was































> so















> > happy! I awoke feeling so wonderful that I closed my eyes trying to get back































> > into it. I have a son and daughter and know no one with 2 daughters so it















gave















>















> > me some hope.















> > >















> > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > What a wonderful dream compared to the previous night! Just thought















> I'd















> > share.















> > >















> > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > Anne















> > >















> > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, marillaandmatthew















> <no_reply@>















> > wrote:















> > >















> > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > I always tell him to go back to his mother and he gives me a















> horrified















> > look and asks, "Why would I do that?" I never answer but maybe I should.















> > >















> > > > >















> > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > Anne















> > >















> > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, Regina Barnes















> > <ginateresawoohoo@ > wrote:















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > I have a friend who dated an Iranian and he was the same















> > way....always caring for mother and bad mouthing his girlfriend. Why can't















> they















> > 'cut the umbilical cord'???? I wouldn't handle that very well either....when































> you















> > marry, you start another family...that' s how it is supposed to be.















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@> wrote:















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > From: ruthandjim47 <mahhrene@>















> > >















> > > > > > > > Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it















> off















> > my chest















> > >















> > > > > > > > To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com















> > >















> > > > > > > > Date:















> > > Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:06 AM















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > wow that was a wringer for you to go through. This reminds me of































> > some of the times that I had with my ex boyfriend of ten years, an Iranian,















> and















> > I do remember how closely interconnected family and friends are. I remember















> > frequent all day visits watching him while he visited with several friend















> while















> > they all spoke Farsi. Not much fun.















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > It does sound like he is looking out for himself and not the















> family















> > unit, so you are wise to think about those things.















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > I am wishing a lot of strength to get through your days.















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > --- In Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com,















> > > marillaandmatthew <no_reply@ .> wrote:















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > It all happened this past Saturday evening. We came home from















> > dinner and I went to take care of the fire. I was brushing ashes away from















the















>















> > door so they wouldn't fall out everytime the door was opened and he became















> > irritated with me using the brush and said, "Geez, 'Anne', that's something















> > 'Shirley' would do" "Shirley" being my mother. I asked him to repeat himself































> and















> > he said it again saying she wouldn't use her brain. I became upset, got the















> kids















> > ready and in bed and then got myself into bed. I didn't want to see him or















> talk















> > to him and he wasn't about to get off the computer to talk to me.















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > At 1:30 in the morning I woke up and he wasn't in our bed. I















> went















> > downstairs to get water and he wasn't there. So, I went back to bed and the















> next















> > morning he is back in bed. I asked him















> > > where he was last night and he acted like he didn't know what I was















talking















>















> > about. I told him about me waking up and he then said, "Oh, yea, I went to















> > 'insert city here'." I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said he didn't































> > want to wake me. I laughed and asked why not since he wakes me for sex. He















> could















> > at least have told me where he was going or that he was going out. I then















> asked















> > what he did there and he said he went to a bar and I dropped the subject.















> Okay,















> > no big deal.















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > That afternoon while his brother is over he compliments me on















> > something I did and I replied, "Oh, you mean it's not like 'Shirley' would















> have















> > done?" He ignored it and continued to be charming. So charming a bell went















off















>















> > in my head saying he only acts this way after he goes to a strip club. But,















> > nooooooo, he wouldn't go after I caught him spending a $1000 last year at















one.















>















> > Would he? So, in a playful way I asked him















> > > if he went to one last night. Of course he asks me why and I tell him















that















> he















> > is acting like he usually does after going. He admitted to going. I wanted















to















> > have a blow out with him right there but didn't because his brother was















here.















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > After his brother left, he called his mom and talked to her in































> > their half English/half Arabic style. Just enough so I could get the jist of































> the















> > conversation.















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > Once the kids were in bed, I casually started playing 20















> questions















> > with him about the previous night. I shouldn't have had to play that game















but















> he















> > didn't give away any information freely. Through asking the right questions,















I















>















> > found out that he did go to that city and the bar was in the strip club.















What















> > kills me is that he could have just told me he went to the strip club















instead















> of















> > telling me it was a bar and then making me have to pull















> > > teeth for the information. Then, I questioned his conversation with his















> > mother. I asked if he invited her to go with us on our family outing. (WHY















> CAN'T















> > WE EVER GO AS A NUCLEAR FAMILY? WHY DOES HE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE HER COME















> ALONG?)















> > Sorry, had to scream it. He said he didn't so I then asked why he suggested















> she















> > go to an earlier Mass instead of her usual. and his response? "Oh, well I















told















>















> > her about it but that I had to check with you first." I laughed! "You did















not!















>















> > My name was never mentioned." "Oh, well is















> > >















> > > > it ok















> > >















> > > > > > > > that she comes?" Do I have a choice? If I say no he'll either















> ignore















> > me or call her and blame it on me.















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > I told him I was really starting to lose trust in him. He















> actually















> > asked me why so I told him how I shouldn't have to fish around for answers.















He















>















> > said again how he didn't want to wake me and that it shouldn't be a big















deal.















> > So, I















> > > through it back in his face asking, "So would it be ok for me to go out















in















> > the middle of the night without telling you?" He became upset and said I















> > couldn't do that. I tried to persist but he ended it by saying he wouldn't















"do















>















> > it again so end of discussion". And the cherry on top of it all? He went to















> the















> > strip club because he wasn't getting any at home! He denies getting anything































> but















> > a $4 beer. Weird considering how a year ago he told me a beer was $10. He















says















>















> > that prices have lowered because of the economy. LOL















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > Fast forward to last night. I had a dream I was being given















the















> > silent treatment and that no matter what I did or said I was being ignored.















I















> > couldn't stand being around the kids anymore and kept trying to getaway from































> > them. I was with my family and went to sit outside being very quiet and















> > depressed when a woman about my age with longer and blonder hair came up to















> me,















> > grabbed















> > > my chair to face her and said, "I'm sorry, 'Anne', but someone has to















tell















> > you. It's over." In the dream those words were all I needed to hear to start































> > crying and I awoke crying. He heard me and came into our son's room (son had















a















>















> > bad dream so we had traded beds so he could sleep near Daddy), got into bed















> next















> > to me, wrapped his arms around me and asked what was wrong. I told him I















> > couldn't tell him and he pressured me but I didn't say. I mean, how can you















> tell















> > your "significant other" about that dream? The comforting he was giving















didn't















>















> > even feel like comfort. It felt















> > >















> > > > more like















> > >















> > > > > > > > he was trying to force himself to be caring. If I didn't have to































> get















> > up to go on daughter's field trip I know he would have wanted sex. He was















> trying















> > to make his move just as I realized what time it was.















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > Thanks for allowing me to let it out. I have 36 hours of free















> time















> > > from him while he is on another trip. Maybe I can catch up on the 1257















> > messages that need to be read from all of you.















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > > > Anne















> > >















> > > > > > > > >















> > >















> > > > > > > >















> > >















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> > >















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#15057 From: lyndieayn@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
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The judge said stalking is a very serious issue (duh) and I didn't have enough evidence........even though this guy would come to my door late at night.....if I didn't answer, he'd go to my back patio door.  Then he would call and say he was standing outside my house.  He'd go through my mail and put things in my mailbox, which is a federal offense.  If I went out with friends, he would have me followed and have this person report to him what I was doing.  He would drive slowly by my house at night to see if anyone else was here.  On and on.  I don't know what kind of "evidence" they need.  Maybe a bullet in my head would work.

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@...>
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



What was their reason that they wouldn't grant you one???
I was at the court room with all of these other poor women that were being harrassed and we were talking about how the system seems to fail women in that situation until they're killed.  We've had a few of those types of killings around here in the last year or so.
Sad, but true.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@... <lyndieayn@...>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:02 PM

 
Wow that's great that you got one.  I was really disappointed that they wouldn't grant one to me. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Yes, I was granted one after he sent a text that threatened my safety.  My friends said I should report it.  It was only city wide and once it expired, I tried to get one county wide, but he had moved out of our house and they couldn't find him.  Then, he started flying below the law's radar so I couldn't get him.  He limited his texts and letters to once a month and quit stalking me altogether because he moved to Florida....


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 PM

 
Yes!!!  Did you try to get a restraining order?

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
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To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Mine did that too!  He'd follow me in his truck....show up at restaurants while I was there with friends....show up at clubs when I was out with friends....call and email consitently. ...knock on my doors and windows....go by my families houses....mail letters....mail cards forged with my sons name....send friends to deliver suicide threats....use his sons cellphone to call and send texts...etc etc etc
it was terrifying to see the craziness surface once you cut them off.....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

 
Me too!!!  I'm terrified!  Remember, my xn stalked me but I couldn't get a restraining order even though he'd come to my door at night, go around to the patio door, put stuff in my mailbox, drive by to see if anyone's car was here......on and on.  Actually, I'm scared of him too!

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I second that, Lyn!  I'm scared to death of them too!  I SURELY don't want any man knowing where I live.  That's the mistake I made with the EX--N.....and I couldn't get rid of him!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:17 PM

 
That's true........ ..lol  AS IF I would call any of them.  I don't call men and I don't give men my # so here I sit alone and that's fine with me.  I don't want any men to know my number or where I live.  I'm scared to death of men now. 

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
If they see you do it.....all the better to get your point across....LOL
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:53 PM

 
Exactly,  I don't know how many guys have given me their cards.  I don't even wait to get home to trash them.  I trash them as I go out the door.  They probably see me do it but who cares? LOL

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Me too, Lyn.  I've had guys come on really strong with their emails....and try to get me to call them or IM them.  I just think that the N's or just complete jerks want to move that fast.  I'm NEVER moving that fast with ANYONE again!  I do not hand out my phone number either.  I've had guys at bars ask me for my number.  I just tell them I don't give out my number, but they can give me theirs.  As soon as I get home....it goes in the trash...LOL   That eliminates the possibility of the drunk guy harrassing you....

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:49 PM

 
I think all the ns navigate to the dating sites.  How else are they going to find victims?  I'm so done with it.  I have several guys who've contacted me (like I said, I keep my profiles up to aggravate xn)......but I'm not replying.  I've even had guys write and ask me to give them my phone number!  I never did that even before n!  I guess some women do though.  Sigh

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I'm with you there!  I won't ever meet anyone from the internet again either!  I've learned that most of them don't put up a current picture and most of them are married or just looking for another bed partner.  I feel like the "good" guys (wherever THEY are...) don't have to browse the internet looking for a woman....
 
Gina

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

 
I'm laughing so hard lol.  Mine patrols my activity on dating sites too.  I just stay there to aggravate him because I'm sure not going to meet anyone from the internet again.  Barf

Used to be, when we were "together" he'd want me to take my profiles down; I said I would if he would.  So, I'd take all mine down but he wouldn't. 

He works for the state govt. and I "reported" him......he was informed that he was not to use his work puter for dating sites.  He doesn't have a puter at home, so now he actually will go to a hotel lobby or library.  What a dunce.  What did we ever see in these idiots?????? ??

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



They are so stupid and so desperate for attention!  Mine said the same thing!!  That he knew it was me....UH HUH....LOL
I wouldn't be surprised if the goofball is still snooping on my profiles because he doesn't have a life.  He lives in front of the computer searching for women.  Pitiful....
Painfully embarassing that I fell for an idiot like that....LOL

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:54 AM

 
I agree!  They are so stupid, aren't they?  I even confronted my xn about it.....actually I did it several times.  He said he knew it was me, that's why he hit on it.  Yeah, right. LOL.  That doesn't even make any kind of sense, even to an n.
Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



Lyn,
 
I did the same thing when I was still semi involved with my exN.  He also hit on it too.  All he did was brag about himself.  That's kinda how I found out who he really is....
 
So, NO, it doesn't make you an N...it makes you a good investigator. ..LOL
 
G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com> wrote:

From: lyndieayn@aol. com <lyndieayn@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:24 AM

 
LOL........haven't had that happen YET but I'm sure it will sooner or later.  Actually both my ns are too stupid to know how to do that......I set up a fake profile on a dating site and my last n hit on it!!!!!!!  Does that make me an n or just a smarter person?  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL L

Lyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Barnes <ginateresawoohoo@ yahoo.com>
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest



I've had that done to me, too, saba....by my EX--N.  Posing as someone else on the internet.  I could smell his crap from a mile away!!!

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: canadiansaba <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [Psychopaths and Narcissists group] Re: Need to get it off my chest
To: Psychopathsgroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

 
Depends on how much they care. I had a guy I have dated for a month send me emails now and then. He had red flags all over. The only reason he doesn't send me anymore emails or even calls is because it's been 15 years, and he has no idea where I am.

I mean it was one month.... I don't think he cared about me. I think he just wanted more N supply.

He was an N to the T. He was writing to me while married to someone else. At one point he came online as someone else and tried to talk to me. I only later found out it w