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#27797 From: "tryst77" <tryst77@...>
Date: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:00 pm
Subject: Fat Transfer for facial wasting
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Has anyone had the "Fat Transfer" process for treating facial wasting.
It would seem to me that this would be the treatment that would
result in the least amount of side effects and would be the most cost
effective as the fat used to fill the face is from your own body and
thus the most unlikely to provoke any kind of adverse reaction in the
body.

I would appreciate any feedback from anybody who has had this treatment.

Many thanks--Mike Mattheisen (New Orleans)




#27801 From: John Barrow <pozbod@...>
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:51 pm
Subject: Re:Fat Transfer for facial wasting
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"Has anyone had the "Fat Transfer" process for treating facial wasting.
It would seem to me that this would be the treatment that would
result in the least amount of side effects and would be the most cost
effective as the fat used to fill the face is from your own body and
thus the most unlikely to provoke any kind of adverse reaction in the
body."

I have not been very impressed by the results I have seen.   It may be that the "new" fat cells are just as susceptible to the old issues that they don't hold up.  It would be interesting to see if the long term results are better, now that drugs are more "lipo friendly."    There can be considerable pain from the donor site, as well, and often, there aren't very good donor sites in people with lipo.

By all means DO NOT allow the fat from a buffalo hump to be used in the face.  The results can be worse than the original problem.

While there is a certain poetry in using the body's own tissues, I would not consider this surgery when good injectables seem to do better, faster, and cheaper.

JB

#27802 From: William Strickler <billdca@...>
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:14 pm
Subject: Re:Fat Transfer for facial wasting
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I had fat transferred from my belly to my face about 2 years ago.  There were no side effects, but it disappeared in three months.  Don't waste your money on this procedure. 

#27811 From: "Sanford Gross" <SGross@...>
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:24 am
Subject: Re: Fat Transfer for facial wasting
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Dr David Teplica is a plastic surgeon in Chicago who specializes in this
technique. He would most likely be a great source for a referral. He also sees
clients from other locales very routinely.

Sanford

Sanford M. Gross, OD, FAAO
Associate Professor
Illinois College of Optometry
3241 South Michigan Ave
Chicago, Illinois 60616

>>> "tryst77" <tryst77@...> 1/11/2009 3:00 PM >>>
Has anyone had the "Fat Transfer" process for treating facial wasting.
It would seem to me that this would be the treatment that would
result in the least amount of side effects and would be the most cost
effective as the fat used to fill the face is from your own body and
thus the most unlikely to provoke any kind of adverse reaction in the
body.

I would appreciate any feedback from anybody who has had this treatment.

Many thanks--Mike Mattheisen (New Orleans)



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#27813 From: George Carter <fiar@...>
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:18 am
Subject: Re: Fat Transfer for facial wasting
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The only problem with this idea is that the fat would just tend to
melt away again, especially if the cause of the depletion isn't
somehow how addressed (i.e., mitochondrial toxicity, particularly
from stavudine/Zerit or other meds or inflammatory responses to HIV).

Otherwise, I think that does make some sense--and indeed, to the
extent newer meds are less likely to result in fat atrophy, and the
source of the lipoatrophy is being addressed, this may represent a
smart approach.

Is it covered? How much does it cost?
Will we ever get HR 676 passed? (Single payer healthcare bill. No co-
pays. Medical, dental, vision covered. You know. Like most
industrialized countries. Where health care is a right. See
www.fiar.us to get a copy of the bill.)
George M. Carter


On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Sanford Gross wrote:

> Dr David Teplica is a plastic surgeon in Chicago who specializes in
> this technique.



#27812 From: gea121@...
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:25 am
Subject: Re: Fat Transfer for facial wasting
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In a message dated 1/12/2009 8:35:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, SGross@... writes:
Dr David Teplica is a plastic surgeon in Chicago who specializes in this technique. He would most likely be a great source for a referral. He also sees clients from other locales very routinely.
I went to Dr. Teplica years ago for facial wasting.  He convinced me that abdominal fat would be a lasting replacement for facial fat in HIV patients because it "wasn't the same type of fat" therefore, it wouldn't waste away.  Being desperate at the time, and believing him because he was a doctor, I spent $7000. for him to take fat from my abdomen and put it in my face through a canula technique.  Since I had no abdomen fat he went internally and took omentum (sp?) fat.  My face was a mess after the procedure, I had huge swelling from my temples, (which was the point of insertion for the canula) all the way to my cheeks.  After the swelling was gone from the procedure, so was all the fat.  My face looked worse than it did before the transfer.  He even had enough nerve to try to convince me to agree to a second procedure.  For another $7000 of course, which I did not do.  After that, I had 8 treatments of Sculptra, which was then called New Fill from another doctor in Chicago.  That was also a complete waste of money.  I have since had my face restored with BioAlcamid, and a couple touch-ups with PMMA.  That has worked beautifully for me with no complications.  David Teplica is not someone I personally think very highly of.  I know of 4 other patients who went to him at the same time I did and had the same procedure using fat transfer and it didn't work for them either. 
 
Glenn




 
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