This is not really a start-up trial. This was funded only after
tremendous resistance from the medical establishment and considerable
data and study that finally overcame all objections.

Dr. Mark Levine, the US governments top cancer research was even
quoted as saying, "We can't ignore this any more." He received this
funding only after exhaustive research and lobbying on his part. And
he's a conservative, top-level researcher. For him to get behind this
-- well, the data must be quite compelling for him to essentially put
his career on the line.

But that's not the point. The point is the Los Angeles Times article
was wrong and ignored all of the considerable data that confirm
reduced rates of cancer and slowing or reversing of cancer itself from
nutrients and nutritional protocols. As well as promoting the lie that
these non-toxic supplements might actually hurt you.

This study will allow Dr. Levine to arrive at a solid conclusion,
which, by the way, will show that the Los Angeles Times article was
completely erroneous.

Also note - IV vitamin C doesn't cause diarrhea.

Michael Mooney
www.michaelmooney.net
www.medibolics.com


--- In PozHealth@yahoogroups.com, "egenagain" <egenegis@...> wrote:
>
> Im glad theyre investigating vitamin c in cancer and they should do
> more of those studies. But starting a trial doesnt prove something
is effective. The trial has to be successful for any claim to be
made. Why subject your body to vitamin c diarrhea when the drugs like
norvir already cause diarrhea, especially when the benefits are not
yet proven.

> --- In PozHealth@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <michael@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to say that your completely wrong, and I don't want anyone to
> > seem like they are beating you up. But are you regurgitating more of
> > the nonsensical disinformation that is part of the drug company's
> > campaign against vitamins. It's meant to make vitamins seem dangerous
> > so people won't get the health benefits that vitamins can provide that
> > can reduce some of the needs for drugs that are in reality both
> > valuable and deadly. Drugs kill more people than car accidents and
> > guns, every year. Vitamins don't kill anyone, according to the US
> > Government Poison Control Centers' reports. Drugs can be life-saving
> > but prescription drugs kill over 100,000 people a year, where vitamins
> > don't kill one single person per year -- according to the US
> > Government Poison Control Centers' reports.
> > (http://www.michaelmooney.net/VitaminsSafe.html)
> >
> > To provide details to counter what was said in that post, Vitamin C is
> > the one completely non-toxic vitamin, according to the US government's
> > top USDA nutrition researcher, Dr. Carol. S. Johnston. (Johnston CS.
> > Biomarkers for establishing a tolerable upper intake level for vitamin
> > C. Nutr Rev 1999 Mar;57(3):71-77.)
> >
> > It does not cause cell death or any damage to cells. It can however
> > cause diarrhea when you take the bowel tolerance level, between 3,000
> > and 5,000 mg at one time. It's benefits at higher doses below bowel
> > tolerance are well known, though, and include improvements in bone
> > density at doses between 1000 and 5000 mg per day (Storm, Clinical
> > Endocrinology and Metabolism 83(11):3817-25 1998.) A 21 percent
> > reduction in the duration of the symptoms of colds when we take more
> > than 1000 mg per day - up to 6,000 mg per day. (Hemila H, et al.
> > Vitamin C and the common cold: a retrospective analysis of Chalmers'
> > review. J Am Coll Nutr 1995;14(2):116-123.)
> >
> > Vitamin C's potential anti-cancer effect is now so unquestioned that
> > the Natitional Academy or Science's top cancer researcher. Dr. Mark
> > Levine (http://www.pnas.org/content/105/32/11037.short) has finally
> > gotten full funding to investigate vitamin C, used IV, as a cancer
> > killer. This is not a guess anymore. Dr. Levine got his funding by
> > proving that vitamin C, in high concentrations obtained only by having
> > it injected, kills cancer cells without damaging other tissues in the
> > body.
> >
> > If you have any data showing that high doses of vitamin E do anything
> > deleterious, please provide them. I find nothing to confirm this when
> > looking at all available studies for the last 50 years. Vitamin E is
> > simply and completely harmless.
> >
> > Good luck for everyone in trying to get past the non-science that is
> > being foisted on the public by the drug companies through the common
> > media in trying to get you to take less vitamins. They know you will
> > have to take more drugs if you don't take the vitamins, so they, being
> > just like Refucklican vampires --- will do anything to deceive people
> > through any means they can. However, close inspection of every
> > negative vitamin study unveil them to be shoddy, deceptive, poorly
> > conducted studies. (http://www.michaelmooney.net/#Corrections)
> >
> > Beware of them and be aware of who is behind them. The drug company
> > liars, are in many cases Refucklican-owned corporations. Check out
> > their background and you will see the same agenda the Refucklicans
> > have promulgated in getting Americans to allow the war in Irag, Bush
> > to be in power as President, and Wall Street to foil us into letting
> > our money and resources be eaten up and stolen from us to fill their
> > pockets.
> >
> > Believe it --- and protect your health, and the politics in this
> > country. Watch out for continuing Refucklican tactics to steal your
> > health and your life.
> >
> > Be well,
> > Michael Mooney
> > www.michaelmooney.net
> > www.medibolics.com
> >
> >
> > --- In PozHealth@yahoogroups.com, "egenagain" <egenegis@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dont overdose yourselves on vitamins and minerals. Some
vitamins when
> > > taken in big amounts have bad side effects. For example too
much zinc
> > > could cause diarrhea. Same goes for vitamin C. Vitamin E also
could
> > > cause problems when overdosed. Overdosing on vitamins and minerals
> > > only helps vitamin manufacturers.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PozHealth@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <michael@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, these studies prove that vitamins in doses that are known
> to be
> > > > too low or in the wrong form don't do anything worthwhile.
> > > >
> > > > Just like a tiny sip of beer won't get you drunk, 1 mg of Cialis
> won't
> > > > help your erections, and taking HIV meds every other day is not
> a good
> > > > idea.
> > > >
> > > > Read the studies in details and weep. Poorly designed studies
prove
> > > > nothing.
> > > >
> > > > For corrections to these errant studies go to:
> > > > http://www.michaelmooney.net/#Corrections
> > > >
> > > > Michael Mooney
> > > > www.michaelmooney.net
> > > > www.medibolics.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PozHealth@yahoogroups.com, John Barrow <pozbod@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-vitamins21-2008dec21,0,3844995,full.s\
tory
> > > > > From the Los Angeles Times
> > > > > Vitamin supplements don't fight cancer, studies show
> > > >
> > >
> >
>