And it's about the Oom-Pah FRIENDS!!!
And the Oom-Pah FUN!!!
And ALL the PHABULOUS PHESTIVITIES!!!

And it's HAPPENING IN PHILLY in TWO MONTHS!!!

PHILADELPHIA FRIENDS GROUP invites you to join us this fall at the
upcoming

Philly Friends OctoberPhest National Event.

The Dates:  October 3rd – 5th, 2008.

Register NOW!! The cost is $60 by check or money order and $62.50 by
Paypal through September 12th, 2008. The event features a Meet &
Greet on Friday evening, a day of fantastic & fun activities on
Saturday, followed by the OCTOBER-PHEST PHEAST & PHESTIVITIES on
Saturday night! Find out all the PHILLY FACTS including hotel block
information, activity descriptions, links to attractions, and other
event details at:

http://www.philafriends.org/

And don't forget to sign our guestbook!

The Philly Event Committee... Your Oom Pah Pah Pals
http://www.philafriends.org/

Gosh I wish I lived near you, I'd go do all that stuff!
 
I wonder if we have all of that in Jacksonville, I"m off to do some research!

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, sunshyne32714 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: sunshyne32714 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Altamonte Springs/Wekiva area
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:47 AM






Hi everyone, I'm new to the group & sadly it looks like I've missed the
most recent meetup (bowling) - hope it was a blast! I live over near
436 & 434 & just wanted to see if anybody else is in the area because
there are so many fun things to do around here - tubing at Rock
Springs, kayaking at Wekiva, good places to walk/jog, and lots of yummy
restaurants.

Open to meeting new people or maybe getting a group together to do any
of the above mentioned - or something else (i've been wanting to try
Aiguille indoor rock climbing or with a little bit of a drive there are
all kinds of cool things around here - the beach, airboat rides,
Rivership Romance, bioluminescent kayaking trip
http://adayawaykaya ktours.com/ nighttours. html, etc).

For more about me, check out my yahoo profile & please feel free to say
hi.

Beth ;)


















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Hey Beth...Welcome to our exclusive club!!!

Scott Evans
_evansprod@..._ (mailto:evansprod@...)

------------------------
In a message dated 7/20/2008 8:32:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:




Hi everyone, I'm new to the group & sadly it looks like I've missed the
most recent meetup (bowling) - hope it was a blast! I live over near
436 & 434 & just wanted to see if anybody else is in the area  because
there are so many fun things to do around here - tubing at Rock
Springs, kayaking at Wekiva, good places to walk/jog, and lots of yummy
restaurants.

Open to meeting new people or maybe getting a group  together to do any
of the above mentioned - or something else (i've been  wanting to try
Aiguille indoor rock climbing or with a little bit of a  drive there are
all kinds of cool things around here - the beach, airboat  rides,
Rivership Romance, bioluminescent kayaking trip
_http://adayawaykayahttp://adayhttp://adayhttp:_
(http://adayawaykayaktours.com/nighttours.html,)   etc).

For more about me, check out my yahoo profile & please feel  free to say
hi.

Beth ;)





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Interesting thoughts,,,,I like the way you tied in god and  religion,,,
Bottom line,,,,always be honest, always have integrity... whether we are
talking about H or anything else in life.
Live, love, laugh, communicate, be responsible and respect...that's my
bible!!!
:) Scott Evans

-----------------

In a message dated 7/15/2008 7:35:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jacobus0070@... writes:




Re the thoughts-
"I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure,  would that make you
go back to you wild ways?? Or would you feel you didn't  have to maybe have
the talk? I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing  I had a "cold"
because who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth  every
moment...."

Wild ways weren't how I caught it  in the first place, unless all unmarried
sex qualifies.  It was the  second woman I was ever intimate with, and those I
can still count on one  hand.  I kissed the third before I knew I had it, and
told the fourth in  advance of further happenings. Was it before kissing at
all?  I don't  remember for sure... that evening was a  whirlwind...
Oyeah - I didn't have an outbreak anywhere  at the time - good thing...
Obviously I can get carried  away in the moment too.

What are wild ways probably  depends on your perspective.  My youth was in
the seventies when  sexuality was just beginnining to be overtly recognized in
our society (most  of it anyway) as a healthy part of the human experience.
Never accepted  an invitation to an orgy (yes I was invited).  But even if I
were so  inclined, knowing what we know, I would be less inclined now.  Too much
bad stuff out there.  And if I can in fact shake this evil bug, I'll be  so
grateful I don't think that will change.
On the other  hand, I have no plans to become a monk.  I view sex (yes!) as
the  Creator's gift to men and women.  "...male and female created he them...
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good."  Mmm
Hmmm.

Good on ya!
J

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For those who think that HSV is a modern day affection, check this out.

http://virus.stanford.edu/herpes/History.html

I'm sure that until the early eighties, Doctors didn't pay much
attention to HSV because of it's minor effect on men, and women didn't
complain enough to their Gynecologists about something that seemed to
go away on it's own.
I can only assume that most people who had it prior to the early
eighties had no idea they where spreading it to anybody they came in
contact with (kissing or intercourse) while they where actively
infectious.
A cold sore was just a cold sore, a pimple was just a pimple.

Truly, Ed

Your welcome, but I hope you know this is just my opition, I am by no means an
expert.  I just know what I've personally learned, talking to medical
professionals (more open minded ones) and talking to a lot of friends and these
sites, really helped me back in the day.
 
Take care and good luck,
 
C

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Carey Lee <clc83060@...> wrote:

From: Carey Lee <clc83060@...>
Subject: Re: [Orlando H Singles] Dumb Question on kissing
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 5:44 PM






Christina,
Thanks. That is what I keep hearing about HSV1, but by the same token they say
you can spread HSV2 without having an active outbreak.... ...who knows. I agree
with all the precautions and of course will follow those. Hopefully, I will
relax with the casual family kiss.
Thanks for your input.
Carey

----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSing lesSite@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:59:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Orlando H Singles] Dumb Question on kissing

Carey,
 
I'm sorry you are here, but I'm glad you asked these questions. 
 
I think kissing is fine, unless you totally have a cold sore on your face, then
you might want to rethink that kiss.
 
Also, once herpes is exposed to air it pretty much dies, but yes kissing is wet
and so is sex, but a peck on the check I don't think is going to hurt your
family or friends.  Also, don't share you lip-gloss or chapstick with anyone. 
Plus if you are having an outbreak, might not be a good day to share a pop or
food or things that might be transfered through the "wetness" does that makes
sense?
 
I've had H for 7+ yrs but just recently truly understood how it can lay dormant
for YEARS, so the person I thought gave it to might not have.  The bottom line
with me going into all my stuff, is there is no true way to protect everyone,
unless you are going to live in a bubble forever.  We do the best we can, and
when you go to sleep at night as long as you know you've been true to yourself
and to others the best of your abilities, that is all you can do.
 
Kiss away!!!
 
C
"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Carey Lee <clc83060@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Carey Lee <clc83060@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Dumb Question on kissing
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSing lesSite@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:46 PM

I'm relatively new to herpes (diagonosed 10/07). I am HSV 1 & 2 positive..
My understanding is that I can potentially transfer HSV1 through kissing. Is
this true?
If so, how is it possible to date outside the H world without being honest from
the first encounter. I keep reading about the difficulty of having the talk and
I assume that means when a relationship progresses to sexual relations, but
degrees of transmissions can happen without penetration. How is that dealt with?
Ever since I was diagnosed, I turn my face every time a family member kisses me.
The last thing I want is to give my  7 year old nephew HSV1.
I know there is a place for me in the dating world and am currently in a
relationship, but I don't understand how you can get to the "conversation"
without ever having kissd which is also a viable means of transmission.
Do we just write that off as the 'good' virus?
Any thoughts on this are appreciated.

----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@ yahoogro ups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogro u ps.com>; Orlando Group <orlandoflherpessin g
lessite@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????

Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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I think this is a duplicate, but I will answer it again.
 
I met my husband on positivesingles.com and really enjoyed the ease of the site.
 
Christina

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Matt DiPaolo <mdipaolo1@...> wrote:

From: Matt DiPaolo <mdipaolo1@...>
Subject: Re: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com, "jax-437734"
<jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Orlando" <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>, "Orlando Group"
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 2:44 PM






Has anyone been to their doctor lately and asked about this possible cure?  I
haven't or else i would have asked him.   I'm curious if they've received any
updates on this like when it will be available or any other details.  So if any
of you happen to go in to doctor for anything, can you run this by them and see
what the deal is?   And if i visit doctor i'll do the same and report back.  
On a different topic, since i'm new to the group i thought i'd give a small
snipet of my history with H.   I contracted it when i was 23 and now 14 years
later, i'm going to be single again.  Now i face the daunting dating world of
which i've been absent for so long and suddenly, this affliction which i've not
given too much thought too for 14 years, has become a burden.  Now I have to
think about "the talk" and all that stuff.   Anyways...i' m sure this isn't new
to any of you, we all have contemplated these things.  But being married with a
spouse whom also has H, I've never really had to worry about it or think about
it until now since we're in midst of divorce.   So, that's my scenario in a
nutshell.  :)   
Anyone know of any good H dating sites? 

----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@yahoogro ups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogrou ps.com>; Orlando Group <orlandoflherpessing
lessite@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????

Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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I met my husband on positivesingles.com and I really liked the ease of the site
and the people I met.  I highly recommend that site!!!
 
Good searching,
 
C

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Matt DiPaolo <mdipaolo1@...> wrote:

From: Matt DiPaolo <mdipaolo1@...>
Subject: Re: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com, "jax-437734"
<jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Orlando" <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>, "Orlando Group"
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 2:44 PM






Has anyone been to their doctor lately and asked about this possible cure?  I
haven't or else i would have asked him.   I'm curious if they've received any
updates on this like when it will be available or any other details.  So if any
of you happen to go in to doctor for anything, can you run this by them and see
what the deal is?   And if i visit doctor i'll do the same and report back.  
On a different topic, since i'm new to the group i thought i'd give a small
snipet of my history with H.   I contracted it when i was 23 and now 14 years
later, i'm going to be single again.  Now i face the daunting dating world of
which i've been absent for so long and suddenly, this affliction which i've not
given too much thought too for 14 years, has become a burden.  Now I have to
think about "the talk" and all that stuff.   Anyways...i' m sure this isn't new
to any of you, we all have contemplated these things.  But being married with a
spouse whom also has H, I've never really had to worry about it or think about
it until now since we're in midst of divorce.   So, that's my scenario in a
nutshell.  :)   
Anyone know of any good H dating sites? 

----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@yahoogro ups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogrou ps.com>; Orlando Group <orlandoflherpessing
lessite@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????

Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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Christina,
Thanks. That is what I keep hearing about HSV1, but by the same token they say
you can spread HSV2 without having an active outbreak.......who knows. I agree
with all the precautions and of course will follow those. Hopefully, I will
relax with the casual family kiss.
Thanks for your input.
Carey



----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@...>
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:59:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Orlando H Singles] Dumb Question on kissing


Carey,
 
I'm sorry you are here, but I'm glad you asked these questions. 
 
I think kissing is fine, unless you totally have a cold sore on your face, then
you might want to rethink that kiss.
 
Also, once herpes is exposed to air it pretty much dies, but yes kissing is wet
and so is sex, but a peck on the check I don't think is going to hurt your
family or friends.  Also, don't share you lip-gloss or chapstick with anyone. 
Plus if you are having an outbreak, might not be a good day to share a pop or
food or things that might be transfered through the "wetness" does that makes
sense?
 
I've had H for 7+ yrs but just recently truly understood how it can lay dormant
for YEARS, so the person I thought gave it to might not have.  The bottom line
with me going into all my stuff, is there is no true way to protect everyone,
unless you are going to live in a bubble forever.  We do the best we can, and
when you go to sleep at night as long as you know you've been true to yourself
and to others the best of your abilities, that is all you can do.
 
Kiss away!!!
 
C
"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Carey Lee <clc83060@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Carey Lee <clc83060@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Dumb Question on kissing
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSing lesSite@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:46 PM

I'm relatively new to herpes (diagonosed 10/07). I am HSV 1 & 2 positive..
My understanding is that I can potentially transfer HSV1 through kissing. Is
this true?
If so, how is it possible to date outside the H world without being honest from
the first encounter. I keep reading about the difficulty of having the talk and
I assume that means when a relationship progresses to sexual relations, but
degrees of transmissions can happen without penetration. How is that dealt with?
Ever since I was diagnosed, I turn my face every time a family member kisses me.
The last thing I want is to give my  7 year old nephew HSV1.
I know there is a place for me in the dating world and am currently in a
relationship, but I don't understand how you can get to the "conversation"
without ever having kissd which is also a viable means of transmission.
Do we just write that off as the 'good' virus?
Any thoughts on this are appreciated.

----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@ yahoogro ups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogro u ps.com>; Orlando Group <orlandoflherpessin g
lessite@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????

Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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I think Tonya is doing a fine job,,, however,,,
As I am currently running one site already, I am open to extending my
services...
:) Scott Evans, Editor
_www.theentertainmentmall.com/happenings_
(http://www.theentertainmentmall.com/happenings)

======================

In a message dated 7/16/2008 5:42:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pagan380@... writes:




Perhaps it time for you to pass the moderator job to somebody else  Tonya.
Truly, Ed


In a message dated 7/12/2008 8:30:01 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,
_no_reply@yahoogroupno_re_ (mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com)   writes:

As a moderator, I have fallen down on the job and not approved  messages
in the past couple of days. Sorry about that. I do not get a  whole
lot of computer time these days with a five month old baby now in  the
household. Please accept my apologies and understand I am trying my
best!

Thanks for  understanding!

Tonya
:o)

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This article is not stating that they have a  cure,,,but they are on the
right track... with luck, in the next few years they  might have it solved.
Stay positive...
:) Scott Evans



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This is really interesting, its actually very much like what im studying in
school. if this protein that gets the virus out of the cells works with 100%
efficiciency then we should see a cure for herpes within 5 or so years. Although
i am not studying herpes this would really help with my research. HIV and other
human retroviruses are what i am more focused on, and i'm pretty sure that they
have discovered some proteins that activate the HIV and get them out of the
cells, but it still only about 60-70% effective, so the person will still have
reproducing virus in them and most likely develop AIDS. Back to the
herpesviruses though, this would make the Herpevac trials somewhat pointless now
if it works. I wonder how effective this protein is on getting the virus out of
the neurons.  Speaking of Herpevac, has anyone heard anything new on that?

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Christina <mefl69@...> wrote:

From: Christina <mefl69@...>
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????
To: "jax-437734" <jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Orlando" <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>, "Orlando Group"
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 2:59 PM






Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Perhaps it time for you to pass the moderator job to somebody else  Tonya.
Truly, Ed


In a message dated 7/12/2008 8:30:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:




As a moderator, I have fallen down on the job and not approved messages
in the past couple of days. Sorry about that. I do not get a whole
lot  of computer time these days with a five month old baby now in the
household. Please accept my apologies and understand I am trying my
best!

Thanks for  understanding!

Tonya
:o)







**************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music
scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
(http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Has anyone been to their doctor lately and asked about this possible cure?  I
haven't or else i would have asked him.   I'm curious if they've received any
updates on this like when it will be available or any other details.  So if any
of you happen to go in to doctor for anything, can you run this by them and see
what the deal is?   And if i visit doctor i'll do the same and report back.  
On a different topic, since i'm new to the group i thought i'd give a small
snipet of my history with H.   I contracted it when i was 23 and now 14 years
later, i'm going to be single again.  Now i face the daunting dating world of
which i've been absent for so long and suddenly, this affliction which i've not
given too much thought too for 14 years, has become a burden.  Now I have to
think about "the talk" and all that stuff.   Anyways...i'm sure this isn't new
to any of you, we all have contemplated these things.  But being married with a
spouse whom also has H, I've never really had to worry about it or think about
it until now since we're in midst of divorce.   So, that's my scenario in a
nutshell.  :)   
Anyone know of any good H dating sites? 


----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@...>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>; Orlando Group
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????


Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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Re the thoughts-
"I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways?? Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk? I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment...."

   Wild ways weren't how I caught it in the first place, unless all unmarried
sex qualifies.  It was the second woman I was ever intimate with, and those I
can still count on one hand.  I kissed the third before I knew I had it, and
told the fourth in advance of further happenings. Was it before kissing at all?
 I don't remember for sure... that evening was a whirlwind...
   Oyeah - I didn't have an outbreak anywhere at the time - good thing...
   Obviously I can get carried away in the moment too.

   What are wild ways probably depends on your perspective.  My youth was in the
seventies when sexuality was just beginnining to be overtly recognized in our
society (most of it anyway) as a healthy part of the human experience.  Never
accepted an invitation to an orgy (yes I was invited).  But even if I were so
inclined, knowing what we know, I would be less inclined now.  Too much bad
stuff out there.  And if I can in fact shake this evil bug, I'll be so grateful
I don't think that will change.
   On the other hand, I have no plans to become a monk.  I view sex (yes!) as
the Creator's gift to men and women.  "...male and female created he them... And
God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good."   Mmm
Hmmm.

Good on ya!
J




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Carey,
 
I'm sorry you are here, but I'm glad you asked these questions. 
 
I think kissing is fine, unless you totally have a cold sore on your face, then
you might want to rethink that kiss.
 
Also, once herpes is exposed to air it pretty much dies, but yes kissing is wet
and so is sex, but a peck on the check I don't think is going to hurt your
family or friends.  Also, don't share you lip-gloss or chapstick with anyone. 
Plus if you are having an outbreak, might not be a good day to share a pop or
food or things that might be transfered through the "wetness" does that makes
sense?
 
I've had H for 7+ yrs but just recently truly understood how it can lay dormant
for YEARS, so the person I thought gave it to might not have.  The bottom line
with me going into all my stuff, is there is no true way to protect everyone,
unless you are going to live in a bubble forever.  We do the best we can, and
when you go to sleep at night as long as you know you've been true to yourself
and to others the best of your abilities, that is all you can do.
 
Kiss away!!!
 
C
"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Carey Lee <clc83060@...> wrote:

From: Carey Lee <clc83060@...>
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Dumb Question on kissing
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:46 PM






I'm relatively new to herpes (diagonosed 10/07). I am HSV 1 & 2 positive.
My understanding is that I can potentially transfer HSV1 through kissing. Is
this true?
If so, how is it possible to date outside the H world without being honest from
the first encounter. I keep reading about the difficulty of having the talk and
I assume that means when a relationship progresses to sexual relations, but
degrees of transmissions can happen without penetration. How is that dealt with?
Ever since I was diagnosed, I turn my face every time a family member kisses me.
The last thing I want is to give my  7 year old nephew HSV1.
I know there is a place for me in the dating world and am currently in a
relationship, but I don't understand how you can get to the "conversation"
without ever having kissd which is also a viable means of transmission.
Do we just write that off as the 'good' virus?
Any thoughts on this are appreciated.

----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@yahoogro ups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogrou ps.com>; Orlando Group <orlandoflherpessing
lessite@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????

Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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Laila,
 
I totally agree with you that sex isn't everything and I guess when I said
"would you go back to your wild days."  I more meant would you be "less" careful
with reading a person.  Maybe I was more speaking about my experiences.  I know
before I had herpes, I didn't think about sexual diseases, because those things
only happened to the careless, not the true at heart type of people.   Trust me,
I know that was a naive way to think period. 
 
But after getting herpes, I thought more about the person and not their looks or
what "could" be.  The people I've slept w/ since having herpes, I saw a
connection (not herpes) as a person and what I liked about them, their lives,
the way the made me laugh, how they acted with my friends, etc....
 


"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Laila Clapton <clap_laila@...> wrote:

From: Laila Clapton <clap_laila@...>
Subject: Re: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 10:03 AM






I was never "wild" to begin with. If there is a cure I would not change my
behavior. I will not be sexually active until I am married. If I had done that
in the begining I would be a member of this club. Sex isn't everything.

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????
To: "jax-437734" <jax-437737@yahoogro ups.com>
Cc: "Orlando" <orlando_h@yahoogrou ps.com>, "Orlando Group" <orlandoflherpessing
lessite@yahoogro ups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 2:59 PM

Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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Zak, I think you made some great points.  I totally agree about the part about
revamping "what is a sexually transmitted disease."  I know the awareness has
changed a lot since I was young and even in the past 7 yrs it's changed.  I
think people talk about it more, it's in the movies more, but I still don't
think people take it seriously.
 
I've seen a decline in people postings, so, I'm wondering is it because herpes
is talked about every 8 to 10 minutes in a commerical every day now?  Or is it
people are just becoming more confortable in their skin or are their more herpes
dating sites?  Either way, I'm personally glad.
 
Happy Monday!
 
C

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Just Look Around <justlookaround13@...> wrote:

From: Just Look Around <justlookaround13@...>
Subject: Re: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com, "jax-437734"
<jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Orlando" <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>, "Orlando Group"
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 9:10 AM






I guess that's a touchy issue. See, I've considered it, but with HPV on the
rise, is it possible HPV strains will mutate more and possibly cause problems
other than the ones we knwo about, cervical cancer. i think it's weird enough
that they can't test for it in guys, I still don't completely understand HPV all
together. I think the whole world needs a revamp on our understanding of sex,
stds, and disease all together. Maybe then those of us with non-fatal positions
woudl be more open about things and there cuuld be at the very least,a curb on
transmission. Or maybe it would lead to lots of transmission.

If this new possible cure works. Thats awesome. But I will use it then be more
picky then ever before. Controlling hormones isn't easy. Mayeb thats why those
special friend, with benefits, have potential to help there. Heh. but seriously,
I don't even know how comfortable I am having sex with someone I know has H,
right off the bat, because of the various HPVs it's possible either of us are
carrying.

Maybe we shoudl be more open about this stuff, and focus some of our money
towards these things. Money runs the world, it's used t contorl, manipulate, and
run politics. With the opportunities of this fats, information technology age -
we have a chance to be more consumer savvy and put our money in the right
places. Buy products that spend some of their profits on bettering society, the
environment, or that give money to special causes. When we focus our money, we
will focus the supplier. More money into biotechnology will give us better
chances of not only finding cures and controls - but it coudl increase the
amount of general knowledge on these issues amongst the general public.

Sex is great. Sex can be used to hurt, and I still don't' understand rapists or
child molesters. We know that semen tends to enahnce womens lives, somethign
like adding nutrients, proteins, whatever the deal is, they have studied the
issue and women feel better. As long as the sex is good and th partners are open
and comfortable with themselves, safe sex definitely helps our moods and life. I
personally would rather find new girls in my life that I can have relationships
with, long or short, where we learn from each other. It advances us all as a
people. We fight amongst race, religion and such - but sometimes find
compromises when romantically involved with a member of the opposite sex, of
those misunderstood cultures, and we are all better for leaning to understand
one another. What I'm getting at, is that there is an issue with promiscuous
sex. We don't need aBible to tell us that it's just Evil and we go to Hell. We
can see through stds
that promiscuity can be dangerous. But some degree of control, clean living, and
such can lead to a good life. I'm all in, we all have the individual choices ot
make every day. Those choices make up the whole. If we just give in for th
ebottom line, for the cheapest price, easiest fuck - then you get what you pay
for.

Zak

----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@yahoo. com>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@yahoogro ups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogrou ps.com>; Orlando Group <orlandoflherpessing
lessite@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????

Well isn't this interesting. ..

http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729


I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways?? Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk? I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....

Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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As a moderator, I have fallen down on the job and not approved messages
in the past couple of days.  Sorry about that.  I do not get a whole
lot of computer time these days with a five month old baby now in the
household.  Please accept my apologies and understand I am trying my
best!

Thanks for understanding!

Tonya
:o)

I guess that's a touchy issue.  See, I've considered it, but with HPV on the
rise, is it possible HPV strains will mutate more and possibly cause problems
other than the ones we knwo about, cervical cancer.  i think it's weird enough
that they can't test for it in guys, I still don't completely understand HPV all
together.  I think the whole world needs a revamp on our understanding of sex,
stds, and disease all together.  Maybe then those of us with non-fatal positions
woudl be more open about things and there cuuld be at the very least,a  curb on
transmission.  Or maybe it would lead to lots of transmission.

If this new possible cure works.  Thats awesome.  But I will use it then be more
picky then ever before. Controlling hormones isn't easy.  Mayeb thats why those
special friend, with benefits, have potential to help there. Heh.  but
seriously, I don't even know how comfortable I am having sex with someone I know
has H, right off the bat, because of the various HPVs it's possible either of us
are carrying.

Maybe we shoudl be more open about this stuff, and focus some of our money
towards these things.  Money runs the world, it's used t contorl, manipulate,
and run politics.  With the opportunities of this fats, information technology
age - we have a chance to be more consumer savvy and put our money in the right
places.  Buy products that spend some of their profits on bettering society, the
environment, or that give money to special causes.  When we focus our money, we
will focus the supplier.  More money into biotechnology will give us better
chances of not only finding cures and controls - but it coudl increase the
amount of general knowledge on these issues amongst the general public.

Sex is great.  Sex can be used to hurt, and I still don't' understand rapists or
child molesters.  We know that semen tends to enahnce womens lives, somethign
like adding nutrients, proteins, whatever the deal is, they have studied the
issue and women feel better.  As long as the sex is good and th partners are
open and comfortable with themselves, safe sex definitely helps our moods and
life.  I personally would rather find new girls in my life that I can have
relationships with, long or short, where we learn from each other.  It advances
us all as a people.  We fight amongst race, religion and such - but sometimes
find compromises when romantically involved with a member of the opposite sex,
of those misunderstood cultures, and we are all better for leaning to understand
one another.   What I'm getting at, is that there is an issue with promiscuous
sex.  We don't need aBible to tell us that it's just Evil and we go to Hell.  We
can see through stds
  that promiscuity can be dangerous.  But some degree of control, clean living,
and such can lead to a good life.  I'm all in, we all have the individual
choices ot make every day.  Those choices make up the whole.  If we just give in
for th ebottom line, for the cheapest price, easiest fuck - then you get what
you pay for.

Zak


----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@...>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>; Orlando Group
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????


Well isn't this interesting. ..

http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729


I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....

Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm relatively new to herpes (diagonosed 10/07). I am HSV 1 & 2 positive.
My understanding is that I can potentially transfer HSV1 through kissing. Is
this true?
If so, how is it possible to date outside the H world without being honest from
the first encounter. I keep reading about the difficulty of having the talk and
I assume that means when a relationship progresses to sexual relations, but
degrees of transmissions can happen without penetration. How is that dealt with?
Ever since I was diagnosed, I turn my face every time a family member kisses me.
The last thing I want is to give my  7 year old nephew HSV1.
I know there is a place for me in the dating world and am currently in a
relationship, but I don't understand how you can get to the "conversation"
without ever having kissd which is also a viable means of transmission.
Do we just write that off as the 'good' virus?
Any thoughts on this are appreciated.



----- Original Message ----
From: Christina <mefl69@...>
To: jax-437734 <jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Orlando <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>; Orlando Group
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:59:04 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????


Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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I was never "wild" to begin with. If there is a cure I would not change my
behavior. I will not be sexually active until I am married. If I had done that
in the begining I would be a member of this club. Sex isn't everything.

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Christina <mefl69@...> wrote:

From: Christina <mefl69@...>
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Has anyone seen this article????
To: "jax-437734" <jax-437737@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Orlando" <orlando_h@yahoogroups.com>, "Orlando Group"
<orlandoflherpessinglessite@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 2:59 PM






Well isn't this interesting. ..
 
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."

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Great post, thanks.
Truly,


In a message dated 7/3/2008 5:59:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mefl69@... writes:




Well isn't this interesting.We

_http://www.msnbc.http://www.http://w_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25511729)


I'm  just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you
go back  to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have
the  talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold"
because who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every 
moment....

Come on someone answer you all know you've thought  about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see  them, but you know
they are always there."

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**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars.     
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The website doesn't have bells and whistles, but you'll notice that whenever
someone new posts their traumatic story, several people rush to offer advice.
They do have events that go on, but otherwise this site serves as a central
focal point, ya know. so how are you doing?

Zak


----- Original Message ----
From: mdipaolo1 <mdipaolo1@...>
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:37:48 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] So what is this all about???


The Yahoo 'group' interface isn't very user friendly.... .where can i
find information about this group and activities that go on?

thanks all!






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Well, for instance, does this group have a website?  Can you search members, see
pics, that type of thing?


----- Original Message ----
From: eyzseau624 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:09:28 PM
Subject: [Orlando H Singles] Re: So what is this all about???


What exactly would you like to know?

Sorry...not sure what to do to make it more friendly.

Tonya

--- In OrlandoFLHerpesSing lesSite@yahoogro ups.com, "mdipaolo1"
<mdipaolo1@. ..> wrote:
>
> The Yahoo 'group' interface isn't very user friendly.... .where can i
> find information about this group and activities that go on?
>
> thanks all!
>






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Well isn't this interesting...
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25511729
 
 
I'm just curious knowing that there "might" be a cure, would that make you go
back to you wild ways??  Or would you feel you didn't have to maybe have the
talk?  I know I didn't always tell someone i was kissing I had a "cold" because
who cares, it goes away, and damn those lips were worth every moment....
 
Come on someone answer you all know you've thought about it....

"Good friends are like stars. ... You don't always see them, but you know they
are always there."




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What exactly would you like to know?

Sorry...not sure what to do to make it more friendly.

Tonya



--- In OrlandoFLHerpesSinglesSite@yahoogroups.com, "mdipaolo1"
<mdipaolo1@...> wrote:
>
> The Yahoo 'group' interface isn't very user friendly.....where can i
> find information about this group and activities that go on?
>
> thanks all!
>

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The cost is $60 by check or money order and $62.50 by Paypal through
September 12th, 2008. The event features a Meet & Greet on Friday
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The Yahoo 'group' interface isn't very user friendly.....where can i
find information about this group and activities that go on?

thanks all!