It has been a hell of a long haul there is no question about that. I have the full story of everything but in all honesty it is in three different MSWORD docs at the moment and I need to combine them and go over them all and then I promise to post our entire journey to hell and back and finally after more hell than any family should ever have to endure, the death of a parent, a big medical scare with me along the way, job loss with Wayne, Unemployment threatening this adoption despite his pounding the pavement and putting out over 500 resumes in four months, finally a position found almost an hour from home, and a whole hell of a lot of other things along the way, this weekend. I just need some time to get it all together before posting it and it will be coming with all the hell they put us through and then some.
You all will never know how incredibly grateful we are to have had you all along this I hate to call it journey because they are usually positive experiences but I guess that is what it was a journey. Trust me when I say Wayne and I would NEVER have made it through this without you all, every one of you! Everyone that mailed, called, wrote, sent cards, sent prayers you name it.
They say that with birthing a child you go through a painful labor. Well apparently with adoption, or at least ours, we went through labor for 2 years, 6 months, 3 weeks and 3 days and frankly screw natural, I would have loved an epidural a longtime ago thank you very much! This was a labor of love and we could not love our little angel anymore than we do, I just wish it has not hurt so much along the way.
The fact that we still have a marriage is amazing. The day they took her from our home just over a year ago Wayne and I fell to our knees on the kitchen floor in a pile and just cried screamed and sobbed! The pain was more than we could take. Somehow, by the grace of God we got through that living hell and fought with all we had and got her back. Finally today she is legally ours and NO ONE but NO ONE will EVER walk into OUR home and take OUR daughter again. I am not proguns but I tell ya, they gotta get through me first and that won't happen! Hell hath no fear like a women scorned!
Walking out of the courtroom today the adoption worker and I spoke for a moment. I thanked her for giving us a chance when we met, as we did not meet under great circumstances at all believe me. I told her that I still harbored a tremendous amount of anger towards Michael (old caseworker) and she told me she understood and that Elizabeth never should have been taken from our home last year. He may be a coworker but she was on our side. That was a definite switch in teams I tell ya. I had told her a few months ago when she said that she felt we were the best thing for this little girl and that she hoped I knew that and I told her I did not. I knew she was very apprehensive at first and that I totally understood. How was she to know whom these people across a table with her, her supervisor and THE big wig were in a situation that NEVER happens. Maine foster children removed from a home for suspected neglect/abuse even when the foster parents are cleared they children are not put back in that home, period. Through the next number of months she came to our home monthly to "inspect" and visit with me and Elizabeth and Wayne if he was home etc. Over that time she saw how Elizabeth and I interacted, how the love was in our home, how safe our home was and most of all, how we were the best thing for this little peanut! She ate crow big time one day and for that I will always respect her. I did not blame her; she had a coworker, a supposed professional, telling her lies and facts that never were. When given the chance who are you supposed to believe, the foster parents of the child or your professional coworker? I never blamed her for how she felt in the beginning and appreciated her honestly with us. Mike is another story and if I ever see the man he darn well better pray it is in a public place because that man is mine! I would love nothing more than 10 min alone with the little pip-squeak with no witnesses! For that matter I would love to just talk to him and tell him what he did to us, what he put us through and how I hope that someday he gets his, someday someone does to him what he did to us. What he put our child through is unforgivable and for that I will NEVER forgive him, NEVER!
My Italian blood comes out every so often and this is one of those times.I rarely forgive those that have caused such harm to my family or friends and I never ever forget.Sometimes a good trait, sometimes a flaw.Either way, my daughter will never be hurt again so long as there is a breath left in my body!
Subject: [OASIS-Adopt] How It Went--Fostering Meeting
Hey, everyone!
Thanks for all the well-wishing and encouragements. I feel silly now for being so worked up and nervous over the meeting. It went really well. The caseworker was friendly, easy-going, and very encouraging. She said that we'd be great parents and that she was excited for us. She asked us all sorts of questions (what ages were we willing to take? would we be comfortable caring for kids of all ethnicities? what about sibling groups?), and because we've done so much online research, we had already discussed everything ahead of time and could answer right off. She told us after looking over our house that she would be able to approve our house before we moved, and that we wouldn't have to have a second home study, which was REALLY great news. She was very positive and seemed assured that there would be kids in our home as soon as we got our classes done and our paperwork all finished! Our area has a really horrible, rapid methanphetamine (sp?) problem right now, and the kids are the ones who are really suffering, so I think southern Illinois really needs more foster parents.
I'm really glad that it went so well. I told her upfront that I was nervous and she laughed and said really put my mind at ease. Now, tomorrow night is our first certification class (it's nine weeks long here in IL), and I'm actually excited instead of terrified!
Hey, everyone!
Thanks for all the well-wishing and encouragements. I feel silly now
for being so worked up and nervous over the meeting. It went really
well. The caseworker was friendly, easy-going, and very encouraging.
She said that we'd be great parents and that she was excited for us.
She asked us all sorts of questions (what ages were we willing to
take? would we be comfortable caring for kids of all ethnicities? what
about sibling groups?), and because we've done so much online
research, we had already discussed everything ahead of time and could
answer right off. She told us after looking over our house that she
would be able to approve our house before we moved, and that we
wouldn't have to have a second home study, which was REALLY great
news. She was very positive and seemed assured that there would be
kids in our home as soon as we got our classes done and our paperwork
all finished! Our area has a really horrible, rapid methanphetamine
(sp?) problem right now, and the kids are the ones who are really
suffering, so I think southern Illinois really needs more foster parents.
I'm really glad that it went so well. I told her upfront that I was
nervous and she laughed and said really put my mind at ease. Now,
tomorrow night is our first certification class (it's nine weeks long
here in IL), and I'm actually excited instead of terrified!
~Alisha~
In a message dated 1/29/2007 8:15:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, fallingup_00@... writes:
So, tomorrow our DCFS case worker is coming by to start some paperwork with me and Preston. I'm really nervous, even though the lady who is doing our work is actually the mother of a good friend of mine and someone I've had dinner with before! I really hope it goes well! Our first Foster/Adopt PRIDE class is Thursday and I'm also a little nervous about that, although less nervous about the classes than filling out all the paperwork and maybe somehow not making the grade. *sigh* Wish me luck!
~Alisha~
Alisha: How did it go? I'm sure it went great. Relax. You will make the grade.
Sandra Mommy to Ryan 1/18/01 Mommy to Lacey 11/19/06 "May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care" Please visit my toy website Welcome to Discovery Toys
Good luck! I now how stressful it all is, we went through the same stuff,
we adopted through the foster care system. It helps that you know the
worker. Just be yourself & everything will go smoothly.
Tammy H
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So, tomorrow our DCFS case worker is coming by to start some paperwork
with me and Preston. I'm really nervous, even though the lady who is
doing our work is actually the mother of a good friend of mine and
someone I've had dinner with before! I really hope it goes well! Our
first Foster/Adopt PRIDE class is Thursday and I'm also a little
nervous about that, although less nervous about the classes than
filling out all the paperwork and maybe somehow not making the grade.
*sigh* Wish me luck!
~Alisha~
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!! (i'm hoping to look into fostering myself in a couple years...)
Alisha <fallingup_00@...> wrote:
So, tomorrow our DCFS case worker is coming by to start some paperwork with me and Preston. I'm really nervous, even though the lady who is doing our work is actually the mother of a good friend of mine and someone I've had dinner with before! I really hope it goes well! Our first Foster/Adopt PRIDE class is Thursday and I'm also a little nervous about that,
although less nervous about the classes than filling out all the paperwork and maybe somehow not making the grade. *sigh* Wish me luck!
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!! (i'm hoping to look into fostering myself in a couple years...)
Alisha <fallingup_00@...> wrote:
So, tomorrow our DCFS case worker is coming by to start some paperwork with me and Preston. I'm really nervous, even though the lady who is doing our work is actually the mother of a good friend of mine and someone I've had dinner with before! I really hope it goes well! Our first Foster/Adopt PRIDE class is Thursday and I'm also a little nervous about that,
although less nervous about the classes than filling out all the paperwork and maybe somehow not making the grade. *sigh* Wish me luck!
So, tomorrow our DCFS case worker is coming by to start some paperwork
with me and Preston. I'm really nervous, even though the lady who is
doing our work is actually the mother of a good friend of mine and
someone I've had dinner with before! I really hope it goes well! Our
first Foster/Adopt PRIDE class is Thursday and I'm also a little
nervous about that, although less nervous about the classes than
filling out all the paperwork and maybe somehow not making the grade.
*sigh* Wish me luck!
~Alisha~
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and give others an opportunity to save money on purchases.
Examples of items would include maternity clothing, carriers, baby items, toys,
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In a message dated 1/11/2007 8:58:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kcatagnus@... writes:
How old will your princess be when she comes home? I actually was looking at adopting from Guatemala, but I am very concerned when it comes to the financial end. I know that, we want our child, and we would love our children no matter what. I found it extremely interesting though that you also are adopting from Guatemala. Can you please give any advice? What's the average range of time for the adoption process from start to finish.
We started the paper chase last January. It took us 6 months because of some typos on important documents and having to get them re-done. We were told our referral of a girl would probably take 2 weeks but could take up to 6 and no more. Well that turned into 17 1/2 weeks and in the mean time my Mom died without ever seeing her granddaughter. It still haunts me. No one could explain the long wait. The agency said they had never waited more than 6 weeks before. I guess in order to get the right baby I had to sit and wait for a really long time. We got our referral Dec. 1, 2006. It should take 4-8 months from that date for the adoption to finalize. Lacey was born Nov. 19, 2006. She is in foster care in Guatemala. We are going to visit her next month but have to leave her there Adoption is very expensive unless you do it through fost-adopt. We took out a huge equity loan to pay for it. She is worth it and i will never regret doing it. My son Ryan who just turned 6 was a preemie and if I had had to pay his hospital bill without insurance it would have been MUCH more than this adoption. It's all relative.
Sandra Mommy to Ryan 1/18/01 Mommy to a Mayan Princess 11/19/06 "May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care" Please visit my toy website Welcome to Discovery Toys
We also adopted through our state (FL). I was about 240 or so when
we adopted our daughters. My weight never came up. Never. We jsut
gave them our doctor slips (which we just faxed to our doctor, they
filled it out and faxed it back). They were 6 & 8 at the time (8 &
9... almost 10).... we finalized on June 30, 2005. Our experience
with the state wasn't horrible but wasn't wonderful either. Our
biggest complaint was that they took forever. Good luck!!!!
Misty
--- In OASIS-Adopt@yahoogroups.com, tammy.houser@... wrote:
>
>
> We adoptesd through our state which is WV & I weigh 390 lbs. They
never
> mentioned my weight at all. They mainly focus on health & with
them being
> around me they could see I am very active & healthy. The weight is
not a
> problem for me at all & I don't let it slow me down. I wish you
all the
> luck cuz I know how people can be discrimative against fat people.
I went
> through infertility as well as Karen & it was terrible. Doctors are
the
> worst discriminators!!
>
> BTW we finalized our adoption of a brother & sister ages 4 yrs. & 5
yrs.
> old (now 6 & 7) on Aug. 17,. 2006. Our experience with the state
adoption
> was totally opposite of Karen's nightmare. I think it all depends
on the
> workers.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Tammy H
>
Yes, that is correct. I think that made a huge difference. We told them
up front that we only were interested in children that were free for
adoption. My heart couldn't take getting close then having to give them
back. We could of still gotten a baby but it would of taken us a very long
time to get a white baby. They told us if we would take a black or
bi-racial child it would be quick. But at in the oint of our journey we
were willing to take older children & that's when we were told about D & K.
The first time we met them we knew they were it & the baby blues were gone.
I can't imagine what our lives were like without them.
Tammy H
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I honestly think the difference between Tammy and my case was that we
were fosterparents first where as she and her husband took children
whose parents rights were already terminated which is a whole other
thing honestly. They went as wanting to just adopt and not foster,
correct me if I am wrong, where as we went for foster then adopt as we
wanted an infant.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: tammy.houser@...
Date: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:01 am
Subject: Re: [OASIS-Adopt] Adoption Process
To: OASIS-Adopt@yahoogroups.com
>
> We adoptesd through our state which is WV & I weigh 390 lbs. They
> nevermentioned my weight at all. They mainly focus on health &
> with them being
> around me they could see I am very active & healthy. The weight
> is not a
> problem for me at all & I don't let it slow me down. I wish you
> all the
> luck cuz I know how people can be discrimative against fat people.
> I went
> through infertility as well as Karen & it was terrible. Doctors
> are the
> worst discriminators!!
>
> BTW we finalized our adoption of a brother & sister ages 4 yrs. &
> 5 yrs.
> old (now 6 & 7) on Aug. 17,. 2006. Our experience with the state
> adoptionwas totally opposite of Karen's nightmare. I think it all
> depends on the
> workers.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Tammy H
>
>
>
I honestly think the difference between Tammy and my case was that we
were fosterparents first where as she and her husband took children
whose parents rights were already terminated which is a whole other
thing honestly. They went as wanting to just adopt and not foster,
correct me if I am wrong, where as we went for foster then adopt as we
wanted an infant.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: tammy.houser@...
Date: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:01 am
Subject: Re: [OASIS-Adopt] Adoption Process
To: OASIS-Adopt@yahoogroups.com
>
> We adoptesd through our state which is WV & I weigh 390 lbs. They
> nevermentioned my weight at all. They mainly focus on health &
> with them being
> around me they could see I am very active & healthy. The weight
> is not a
> problem for me at all & I don't let it slow me down. I wish you
> all the
> luck cuz I know how people can be discrimative against fat people.
> I went
> through infertility as well as Karen & it was terrible. Doctors
> are the
> worst discriminators!!
>
> BTW we finalized our adoption of a brother & sister ages 4 yrs. &
> 5 yrs.
> old (now 6 & 7) on Aug. 17,. 2006. Our experience with the state
> adoptionwas totally opposite of Karen's nightmare. I think it all
> depends on the
> workers.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Tammy H
>
>
>
We adoptesd through our state which is WV & I weigh 390 lbs. They never
mentioned my weight at all. They mainly focus on health & with them being
around me they could see I am very active & healthy. The weight is not a
problem for me at all & I don't let it slow me down. I wish you all the
luck cuz I know how people can be discrimative against fat people. I went
through infertility as well as Karen & it was terrible. Doctors are the
worst discriminators!!
BTW we finalized our adoption of a brother & sister ages 4 yrs. & 5 yrs.
old (now 6 & 7) on Aug. 17,. 2006. Our experience with the state adoption
was totally opposite of Karen's nightmare. I think it all depends on the
workers.
Good luck!
Tammy H
Thank you so much for the replies so far. Karen I read on the Oasis message board and it has been a ton. I am so glad. I didnt know that the social worker was that about the weight though.
If anyone can give me international or private agencies that you know the social workers wont make something of the weight I would appreciate it so I can have a back up plan if they deny us on the home study. I have a few plans and if turned down based on my weight after the doctors positive report I am going to pursue other venues for the pain they have been putting me through with this. I went to our adoption specialist at the agency we are using and she just said that they are only having the same thing as the judge when he gets our paperwork. If a judge were to treat me the way they have about my weight after a doctor says all is fine I would be filing a complaint because that is not only discrimination but biased and a judge is not to be either or he should lose that position.
----- Original Message ---- From: "kmegrant@..." <kmegrant@...> To: OASIS-Adopt@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:12:00 PM Subject: Re: [OASIS-Adopt] Adoption Process
BTDT I am afraid. We went through the home study from hell that is for sure. My weight and my husbands were both scrutinized by the guy doing the homestudy, who by the way was about 100 lbs overweight too! I am 280 and dh at the time was 375. He has lost a few lbs since then but not much. Our homestudy was for social services to do fostercare and adopt through them if applicable but at the time the homestudy was just for fostercare. We had the clown walk into our home the second night for the interviews, tell us we were too fat, yup his words exactly, to be parents and that we should bench our homestudy til we both lost weight and then reconsider. I threw his carcus out of my house, which actually he was lucky becuase I was being nice, I wanted to drive him through the kitchen wall but it took all I had not to trust me! The next am we marched into our DHHS office and saw our liscensing worker we were working with and
told her what was happening and she was livid. They contract out for the homestudies to this particular agency in Gardiner Maine. She got the owner of the agency on the phone and expressed our concerns and the fact that we did not want him back in OUR home he was no longer welcome and we were requesting another social worker. She denied our request so we went with a second best plan, our liscensing worker was to be here for ALL future visits with this jerk. And she was! Discussions on our sex life included and we did not care at that point. You just get to a point where you have had enough and don't care who knows what anymore. I have to say I had fun with thim when we got to the sex stuff. He would ask if it was satisfying and I would give him a nice lenghty reply about how it was, where it was, best positions for "FAT" people etc etc. DH was a tad embarrassed but at that point we figured we had nothing to lose. We
knew darn well they were both terrified we would sue the crap out of them for his comments, which we di d have grounds to in the state of Maine under the discrimination laws and the fact that there are no written rules/laws/guidelin es regarding weight in our state for fosterparents or adoptive parents. Trust me I went law hopping the night I was fuming fire out my nostrils and ears! We also figured at that point that we had been so much "trouble" that we would never get a placement and basically be black balled so we had nothing to lose so to speak. We did get liscenced which we expected due to the above but never thought we would get a call for a child. Six months later we actually did, a newborn baby girl that was born drug addicted and going through withdrawal of that and nicotine and needed a home. Mom had lost her other three children already and they were taking this one at the hospital, could I come get her
in an hour! AN HOUR????? OK, so I did. She and I went to get diapers and formula and two outfits on our way home. I had picked up a carseat on my way there. Mind you I knew NOTHING about being a parent let alone to a newborn going through withdrawal. Did I forget to mention that this happend on a FRIDAY of a holiday weekend???? YUP. What became the nursery was my home office and was full of 6 yrs of stuff! OYE. Well that weekend we maxed out the credit cards at Babies R Us and emptied out that room, man was that a ton of work, all on zip for sleep as she was up every hour either crying or hungry. Poor thing :( We were thrown into parenthood by the seat of our pants and holy crap was it to be a rough ride.
There is a ton more to this story but I will save the gory details for anyone that wants them later. This should answer your question and get you some places to start at least.
BTW, that little girl is
now 2 1/2 yrs old and we will be finalizing her adoption on February 7th at 1pm! Party will be that weekend to follow :)
I will not say it has been easy, in fact we will never do it again, at least not through our social services department that is for darn sure. Our lives for her first 18 months were a living hell and I do mean living hell, I thought infertility was bad, this made infertility look like Disney Land! But again, that is another story for another time.
BTDT I am afraid. We went through the home study from hell that is
for sure. My weight and my husbands were both scrutinized by the guy
doing the homestudy, who by the way was about 100 lbs overweight too!
I am 280 and dh at the time was 375. He has lost a few lbs since then
but not much. Our homestudy was for social services to do fostercare
and adopt through them if applicable but at the time the homestudy was
just for fostercare. We had the clown walk into our home the second
night for the interviews, tell us we were too fat, yup his words
exactly, to be parents and that we should bench our homestudy til we
both lost weight and then reconsider. I threw his carcus out of my
house, which actually he was lucky becuase I was being nice, I wanted
to drive him through the kitchen wall but it took all I had not to
trust me! The next am we marched into our DHHS office and saw our
liscensing worker we were working with and told her what was happening
and she was livid. They
contract out for the homestudies to this particular agency in
Gardiner Maine. She got the owner of the agency on the phone and
expressed our concerns and the fact that we did not want him back in
OUR home he was no longer welcome and we were requesting another
social worker. She denied our request so we went with a second best
plan, our liscensing worker was to be here for ALL future visits with
this jerk. And she was! Discussions on our sex life included and we
did not care at that point. You just get to a point where you have
had enough and don't care who knows what anymore. I have to say I had
fun with thim when we got to the sex stuff. He would ask if it was
satisfying and I would give him a nice lenghty reply about how it was,
where it was, best positions for "FAT" people etc etc. DH was a tad
embarrassed but at that point we figured we had nothing to lose. We
knew darn well they were both terrified we would sue the crap out of
them for his comments, which we di
d have grounds to in the state of Maine under the discrimination laws
and the fact that there are no written rules/laws/guidelines regarding
weight in our state for fosterparents or adoptive parents. Trust me I
went law hopping the night I was fuming fire out my nostrils and
ears! We also figured at that point that we had been so
much "trouble" that we would never get a placement and basically be
black balled so we had nothing to lose so to speak. We did get
liscenced which we expected due to the above but never thought we
would get a call for a child. Six months later we actually did, a
newborn baby girl that was born drug addicted and going through
withdrawal of that and nicotine and needed a home. Mom had lost her
other three children already and they were taking this one at the
hospital, could I come get her in an hour! AN HOUR????? OK, so I
did. She and I went to get diapers and formula and two outfits on our
way home. I had picked up a carseat on my way there.
Mind you I knew NOTHING about being a parent let alone to a newborn
going through withdrawal. Did I forget to mention that this happend
on a FRIDAY of a holiday weekend???? YUP. What became the nursery was
my home office and was full of 6 yrs of stuff! OYE. Well that
weekend we maxed out the credit cards at Babies R Us and emptied out
that room, man was that a ton of work, all on zip for sleep as she was
up every hour either crying or hungry. Poor thing :( We were thrown
into parenthood by the seat of our pants and holy crap was it to be a
rough ride.
There is a ton more to this story but I will save the gory details for
anyone that wants them later. This should answer your question and
get you some places to start at least.
BTW, that little girl is now 2 1/2 yrs old and we will be finalizing
her adoption on February 7th at 1pm! Party will be that weekend to
follow :)
I will not say it has been easy, in fact we will never do it again, at
least not through our social services department that is for darn
sure. Our lives for her first 18 months were a living hell and I do
mean living hell, I thought infertility was bad, this made infertility
look like Disney Land! But again, that is another story for another
time.
Hugs
Karen
In a message dated 1/18/2007 10:25:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kiecho4@... writes:
I just need support and advice what to do and where to go? Is there any private agency domestic or international that would still let us adopt cause of my weight? Is there any social workers that wont discriminate against my weight in this country?
I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. At times adoption makes you want to pull out all of your hair. No one has to approve you to have a baby naturally, but when you want to adopt they pull out a magnifying glass. Weight is subjective. Everyone views it differently. I have heard of other social workers who ignored the doctor and turned down someone based on size. I have heard of couples who switched home study agencies (which is expensive) and experienced a completely different attitude. I weigh 270 and it wasn't mentioned at all in my home study. I hope you can find a way around this, even if it means trying again with someone else. I will mention to you that I was taking several prescription medications (including an anti depressant) and very concerned about them when it came to the home study. I actually called a few agencies and asked them what their policy was and they told me. I found one who said whatever my doctor said was all that mattered and I knew he wasn't concerned about life expectancy etc. Keep us updated please. You WILL be a mommy
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My husband and I have been going through the process for adopting a
newborn domestically and have gotten to the homestudy point. I am
currently weighing in at 403 and have joined WW and will lose this. I
have made a long term commitment here anyways. We got to the
individual interviews and our social worker brought up my weight ( I
told the truth) and told me that we may not be approved becuase of it
cause it will effect the length of my life well my doctor said that I
have a normal life span and that I have no medical problems cause I
dont. Nothing is over normal and I am fine but yet she said that they
may not approve me and if they do they may make us do xyz first. If
it means losing 200 pounds to go this route I will be almost 40
before this can be done. I dont understand if I couldnt take care of
a baby I wouldnt be doing this. I know what I can and cannot do. I am
really hurting right now cause I feel like she is going to take this
away and we wont be able to be parents cause of me. Doctors wouldnt
work with me to get pregnant and now they wont let me adopt cause I
am overweight. My husband says we wont give up. I am just so hurt
right now that I dont know what I am going to do except if my weight
does do this I am going to talk to a lawyer cause my dr even stated I
am fine and they are just ignoring that. I emailed our adoption
specialist cause she and everyone else at the agency said that my
weight is not going to be discriminated there but now she is not
touching the subject and telling me that it wont be an issue. She
just states they are only looking at what the judge will.Is this
true, will a judge really discriminate against what I weigh and not
listen to the doctor but the social worker? Well, we shall see. We
have one more meeting Saturday and then when the study comes back we
will know and I can face it head on. Right now, I just need support
and advice what to do and where to go? Is there any private agency
domestic or international that would still let us adopt cause of my
weight? Is there any social workers that wont discriminate against my
weight in this country?
The OASIS family has a new list??? It is called OTRADING and is perfect for
saving TONS of money and cleaning out your homes at the same time! Have
something to sell, need clothing in the next size up for your child, need
maternity wear, have coupons to offer, FORMULA CHECKS offered and traded and
SOOOOOO much more!
So........what have you got to loose???? Join up today and start saving with the
rest of us!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OTrading
Karen
Moderator for OTrading
The Blurb for OTRADING:
The OPSS-OMOM Trading Post is a list for members of OPSS-L, OMOM, and OMOM-Kids
to use as a place to swap, sell, or give away items. The idea is to help each
other out by giving an avenue for list members to sell items they no longer need
and give others an opportunity to save money on purchases.
Examples of items would include maternity clothing, carriers, baby items, toys,
baby and children's clothing, educational materials. Members are also welcome to
post good coupons that may be of interest to members such as clothing for
babies, children, and BBWs, restaurants, toy stores, etc.
I forgot the good code: Enter SAVE10 in the promo code box
This take 10 dollars off your order no matter how small. Also, if you want more than one pair just click through the link again and enter the same code.
My husband & I adopted through foster care in June 2006. Our experience was WONDERFUL... although there are always issues you will have with the foster care program (we did have our share), we still have our beautiful daughters. Feel free to ask any questions you want. A little later, I will post more in detail our situation. Feel free to email me offlist if you would like.
Good luck!!
Misty
halo4san@... wrote:
I sent this over a week ago and it was just returned to me. Weird.
Today, after an anxious two weeks of waiting after an IUI we found out, we were not pregnant. I have been thinking about the possibilities of adoption, especially though foster care and I am looking for some advice.
Welcome Kelley. I'm so sorry you aren't pregnant, but adoption is a wonderful way to add to a family. My name is Sandra. I live in CA with my husband and almost 6 year old bio son Ryan. I had major complications with Ryan and couldn't risk another pregnancy so we turned to adoption. We were both always interested in adoption even before having Ryan so it seemed natural to us. We are in the middle of an international adoption. Our
daughter was born 11/19 in Guatemala. She is beautiful and I can't wait to get her home sometime in spring. We are going next month to visit her. I don't have any personal experience with fost-adopt but have heard of many cases that went well.
Sandra Mommy to Ryan 1/18/01 Mommy to a Mayan Princess 11/19/06 "May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care" Please visit my toy website _Welcome to Discovery Toys_ (https://www.discoverytoyslink.com/smayeux)
Misty
Wife to Todd, Mom to Nicole - 9 (PTSD, ADD, Bedwetter--but dry since April 1, 06--My wonderful, sweet angel) and Leah - 7 (PTSD, ADHD, OCD--My pride, joy & heartache); adopted June 30, 2005...Wow, we survived our first year, now a lifetime to go.
How old will your princess be when she comes home? I actually was looking at adopting from Guatemala, but I am very concerned when it comes to the financial end. I know that, we want our child, and we would love our children no matter what. I found it extremely interesting though that you also are adopting from Guatemala. Can you please give any advice? What's the average range of time for the adoption process from start to finish.
Thank you very much for your time, I was so happy to hear your story.
Subject: Subject: Re: [OASIS-Adopt] Kelley ~ New Member
I sent this over a week ago and it was just returned to me. Weird.
Today, after an anxious two weeks of waiting after an IUI we found out, we were not pregnant. I have been thinking about the possibilities of adoption, especially though foster care and I am looking for some advice.
Welcome Kelley. I'm so sorry you aren't pregnant, but adoption is a wonderful way to add to a family. My name is Sandra. I live in CA with my husband and almost 6 year old bio son Ryan. I had major complications with Ryan and couldn't risk another pregnancy so we turned to adoption. We were both always interested in adoption even before having Ryan so it seemed natural to us. We are in the middle of an international adoption. Our daughter was born 11/19 in Guatemala. She is beautiful and I can't wait to get her home sometime in spring. We are going next month to visit her. I don't have any personal experience with fost-adopt but have heard of many cases that went well.
Sandra Mommy to Ryan 1/18/01 Mommy to a Mayan Princess 11/19/06 "May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care" Please visit my toy website _Welcome to Discovery Toys_ (https://www.discoverytoyslink.com/smayeux)
I sent this over a week ago and it was just returned to me. Weird.
Today, after an anxious two weeks of waiting after an IUI we found out, we were not pregnant. I have been thinking about the possibilities of adoption, especially though foster care and I am looking for some advice.
Welcome Kelley. I'm so sorry you aren't pregnant, but adoption is a wonderful way to add to a family. My name is Sandra. I live in CA with my husband and almost 6 year old bio son Ryan. I had major complications with Ryan and couldn't risk another pregnancy so we turned to adoption. We were both always interested in adoption even before having Ryan so it seemed natural to us. We are in the middle of an international adoption. Our daughter was born 11/19 in Guatemala. She is beautiful and I can't wait to get her home sometime in spring. We are going next month to visit her. I don't have any personal experience with fost-adopt but have heard of many cases that went well.
Sandra Mommy to Ryan 1/18/01 Mommy to a Mayan Princess 11/19/06 "May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care" Please visit my toy website _Welcome to Discovery Toys_ (https://www.discoverytoyslink.com/smayeux)
HOORAY!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so happy for you that it's finally over. Take lots of tissues to
court with you. haha! Hope you are planning a huge celebration after all
that you've been through, what a relief that you can finally relax & not
worry anymore.
Tammy H
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Today Wayne and I got a phone call from our lawyer that the date has been
set for Elizabeth's Adoption Finalization! We go on February 7th in the
afternoon!!!! She will finally legally be the daughter she has been since
she came to us at 2 days of age from the hospital!
:)
Karen, Wayne & Elizabeth
In a message dated 1/5/2007 12:11:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, fallingup_00@... writes:
For those of you who have already adopted, and especially those of you who have done foster adoption, what is the one (or more!) thing you wish someone had told you before you started?
I'd love to hear lots of different answers!
~Alisha~
Start collecting the paperwork right away. It took 6 months to have all of our documents ready despite me being a very organized person. We had several govt. forms come to us with a typo which made them unusable. It was a nightmare getting new corrected copies. So if you even think you might adopt start ordering birth certificates, marriage certificates, etc. NOW
Sandra Mommy to Ryan 1/18/01 Mommy to a Mayan Princess 11/19/06 "May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care" Please visit my toy website Welcome to Discovery Toys
Congratulations!!!! It feels so wonderful once the
papers are signed and everything is final. Have a big
celebration afterwards... :)
Misty
--- Karen Grant-Tolman <kmegrant@...> wrote:
> Today Wayne and I got a phone call from our lawyer
> that the date has been set for Elizabeth's Adoption
> Finalization! We go on February 7th in the
> afternoon!!!! She will finally legally be the
> daughter she has been since she came to us at 2 days
> of age from the hospital!
>
> :)
>
> Karen, Wayne & Elizabeth
Misty
Wife to Todd, Mom to Nicole - 9 (PTSD, ADD, Bedwetter--but dry since April 1,
06--My wonderful, sweet angel) and Leah - 7 (PTSD, ADHD, OCD--My pride, joy &
heartache); adopted June 30, 2005...Wow, we survived our first year, now a
lifetime to go.
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YAY!!! You should throw a big party and celebrate!!
How old is she now? I am so glad you got to keep her.
I just read on my foster care list someone is losing
their 2 year old fd after having her since birth.
--- Karen Grant-Tolman <kmegrant@...> wrote:
> Today Wayne and I got a phone call from our lawyer
> that the date has been set for Elizabeth's Adoption
> Finalization! We go on February 7th in the
> afternoon!!!! She will finally legally be the
> daughter she has been since she came to us at 2 days
> of age from the hospital!
>
> :)
>
> Karen, Wayne & Elizabeth
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Today Wayne and I got a phone call from our lawyer that the date has been set for Elizabeth's Adoption Finalization! We go on February 7th in the afternoon!!!! She will finally legally be the daughter she has been since she came to us at 2 days of age from the hospital!
Well, since you asked.....here is our story: This was a reply to someone who is local that recently asked about our experience:
It is working for us now but Susan it has been pure hell getting to this point. We applied as foster parents because we wanted an infant, that was important to me. It was a gamble that we would get a child that would ultimately be freed for adoption but we took the gamble and at this point it has paid off. Don't get me wrong, the first 18 months were pure living hell. It had nothing to do with Elizabeth, she was an angel, she was born drug addicted and then went from withdrawal into colic and so on down the line. She was very delayed until she stopped seeing her birth mom at 9 months. She never sat up til she was 9 months and then flew threw the milestones from there as birth mom was out of her life. It floored me. Mom would show up for visits about a third of the time. It stunned me that an infant, 2 mos old, knew just pulling into the parking lot of the visit center that that is what we were doing. I had no clue infants truly could have that level of understanding. It was mind blowing to say the least! Near the end of the visits, mom stopped wanting them when she was about 9 mos old, we just had to pull into the parking lot, she did not even have to get out of the car! She was gone for the rest of the day. She would not eat, she would not drink, she would not sleep, she would cry almost constantly and I was having her in the sling and next to my heartbeat and that was the only thing that would help her at all. It was horrible to say the least. More than once I had to take her from a visit with mom immediately to the pediatrician becuase mom was a heavy smoker, smoked 4 pks a day during pregnancy in addition to other drugs and drinking daily, and Elizabeth reacted horribly to even the residual smoke on mom's clothing and hair. Like gasping for air struggling. The pediatrician sent a note to DHHS telling them that this child was NOT to be around anyone who had smoked, birth parent or not or that the person had to shower and put on clothing that was freshly washed and not smoke until after the visit otherwise we risked hospitalization for respiratory failure. DHHS said there was no way they could tell a birth parent to do that and blew it off. So for a while after visits to birth mom we would rush to the pediatrician's office for a breathing treatment! YUP, all documented, did not matter!
No clue who bio dad is, mom named 5 men and it was none of them and they could not find three of them!
Mom also had other 3 children removed when Elizabeth was born hence why she was removed at the hospital. It is very rare to get a newborn however we got lucky and for that I am grateful to God everyday! We wanted the best odds possible, a mom that had other children removed and had a newborn taken at the hospital. It actually happend for us but I would NEVER do it again.
One week she was going to be sent to rehab with mom, a few days later nope, she is going with x relative, a few days later or even later that same day she was not going anywhere and then it would change again the following day or week and she was going to be put up on an apt with mom that the state was going to pay for in Portland and they were putting 24/7 help in the home etc etc etc. It was a living hell that I still don't know how we made it through.
We had a second child placed with us a year ago August. She was 2 yrs old. She had older siblings that went to Grandma's but grandma said she could not handle the toddler. This child needed so much more than we were ready for. We had not gotten to that age with Elizabeth yet or read that far frankly in the books and WHOA, were we underprepared by a long shot. This child arrived late in the evening, hid under our kitchen table and stayed there for two days. She came with a backpack and a bottle. The bottle had curdled milk in it and mold, the backpack had a bunch of mom's slinky underwear and provocative pictures! This child was terrified of men, she ran from my husband and would not let me out of her sight. I had to run out and get her clothing as she came with a diaper on and a shirt, no shoes, no socks, nothing at all. Had to buy a crib for her and mattress etc. All we got from DHHS was a voucher to Target for $200. Great unless you need a bed, mattress and entire wardrobe for a child and are paying retail. She had some serious issues. She and mom had been living in a campground. Dad was abusive etc. I put her in play therapy as she was out of control and needed help way beyond what we were able to provide alone. Therapist saw her a number of times and was seriously concerned about RAD (Reactive Attachement Disorder) put that into google and sit down while you read! Then Thanksgiving weekend she went to her grandmother's for the holiday and we went up to Wayne's parents up north for the long weekend. We got to his parents Wednesday and got a call Thanksgiving morning from her grandmother stating she could not handle her anymore and we had to come get her right then! Great, except we were 6 hours away and there was a friggin blizard outside! We packed Elizabeth into the SUV and headed for home about 1:00 after his mom rushed dinner for us. We got to the Turnpike onramp in Lincoln and Wayne hit ice and we slammed the truck into the onramp guardrail. His truck was only 9 months old at the time. Thankfully being in the middle of no where, there was actually a state trooper about a mile behind us and he did the same thing on the same patch of ice. It woke Elizabeth and I out of a dead sleep. Everyone was ok but here we had a nice repair bill on a brand new vehicle. The deductable sucked and was $500 we had not planned on that is for sure. We continued to head south and got to her grandmother's 10 hours later and she was like, where have you been! I just got the girl and we left. I was furious! DHHS said nothing and did nothing. I was not impressed! She went there for Christmas as well and we stayed home. It went better at Christmas though apparently.
Meanwhile around Christmas time her father started showing up at our door, got the address somehow, calling my cell phone, our home phone day and night. It was awful. I called DHHS and they said there was nothing they could do and they recommended we file a harrassment order. We did and he was served on January 2nd by his probation officer. That day he called DHHS and stated that he felt we were neglecting his daughter. January 3rd DHHS showed up and removed the child to another home. Elizabeth's caseworker showed up that day as well and checked her head to toe, naked, her butt crack, you name it and said he did not know if they were moving her too or not. We were terrified. Her birth mom had terminated her rights the previous August and we were just waiting on the dad issue before we could adopt. He said there could be charges pending against us for the other child and that he was leaving her here that night. The next day we got a call from him that he was on his way to take Elizabeth and to get her ready! My heart hit the floor and I screamed for Wayne (who thankfully was home as the company he worked for folded three weeks before Christmas). The worker showed up, took her and siad we woudl never see her again. We were in a lawyers office 10 minutes later to find out that we had no rights. She was almost 18 months old, we were the only family she had ever known and there was not a damn thing on this earth we could do. We both left puking and crying like I have never cried in my life. I called the DHHS office she was out of, Portland, and got a meeting the next day with the head of DHHS Portland, the caseworker's supervisor and our liscensing worker who was horrified that this happend in the first place and we took two witnesses to speak on our behalf. It was like sitting in a room with ice cubes. They had no feeling, heart or anything at all. The GAl was there becuase I called and told her of the meeting. I asked that when we were cleared by Internal Affairs if they woudl put her back with us and they said they did not know! DHHS has a HUGE track record of irregardless and when the fosterparents are cleared not placing that child back with them! All Wayne and I did for the next 9 days was puke and cry! We had to close the door to her room as I could not handle walking by there and had to to get to the bathroom. I knew she was in a good home becuase coincidentally she was placed with Susan Titcomb. They had just been liscensed and she went there. I had gotten an email from Susan that afternoon stating that she just got a call for a placement out of OOB and the girl was almost 18 months old and was a sure thing for adoption. My heart sank. I called and we talked and sure enough it was Elizabeth. I knew she was in a good hoem but then it became a major issue that I knew where she was even though we had no more contact after that point. The caseworker told her to not speak to us, we never called or emailed after the caseworker left with Elizabeth. It was part of the IA investigation and I had to prove how I knew Susan and where they lived and her email etc. I had to show her the M2M directory and she actually took copies of it with her!
Internal affairs came and the minute the woman walked into our home she felt we were guilty, period. By the time she left she gave me her home phone number and was stunned that this happend in the first place! She told me to call her anytime but I did not as I did not want to bother her. She went on a limb for us and could have lost her job but her recommendation was not only that the neglect charge was 100% unfounded but that we had NO liscence violations at all and that we were the keystone of good parents and that that child was to be returned to our home, the only home she ever knew, IMMEDIATELY! Mind you this took 10 days start to return. She was in contact with the daycare we used for the girl (recommended daycare from the therapist) and they sent a letter stating that we were model parents and any child would be lucky to be in our care. They also sent all the accident reports that had happend there, one of the things that the father had pointed out, her accidents and such. I also brought up that at the most recent meeting DHHS had decided to stop her play therapy as mom did not want it. Forget the therapist report sent to the workers and lawyers etc. I asked to have the child moved several times as she was horrible to Elizabeth, pushed her down, took her toy, caused harm to her, etc and we could not take our eyes off her at all, and we were told that if we asked to have one moved, they woudl move them both. NICE, so we were stuck.
Bottom line, by the grace of God we got Elizabeth back and are now in the adoption process with her. When we got her back I stated I wanted a new caseworker and refused to work with her other one (he had refused to let me go to her 18 mos well baby visit). They assigned us an adoption worker at that point. This woman was so cold, we were guilty in her eyes, after all that is what she got from a coworker, a social worker who was feeding her bullshit. How was she to know that in fact we had done nothing at all to anyone and what he was feeding her were 100% lies. It was not til she caught him in a few that she started to warm up to us. About a month ago I got an email from her stating she was really sorry for how cold she was at first and I told her that I fully understood. In the same situation I would not expect anything else. She met us sitting across a table with THE head of DDHS in Portland, the adoption supervisor and herself with just Wayne and I on the other side. We were waiting for Susan Titcomb to bring Elizabeth back. We went over a few things and we were planning on a carribean vacation like 10 days from then and I stated that I needed notorized in writing that day a letter stating we had permission to take Elizabeth out of the country. We had verbal permission from the original caseworker already but anyway. We showed them her passport, boy didn't they shit a brick when they realized we had a passport for this child (caseworker gave me info needed and sent me a letter stating it was ok to get etc that was notorized months before), airline tickets for the three of us and the cruise tickets for the three of us. They gave me the asked for paper and they brough Elizabeth back in. We were told we could talk to Susan at that point to see how things went, her well baby visit etc and the caseworker in the meantime had told her to leave and not speak to us. It was not until about 5 months ago that I got an email from Susan. He was then doing to her what he had done to us and she understood and was so sorry. I told her it was ok, she only had a professional's information coming to her and did not know me well at all and so forth. She told me a number of things that he told her about us and a zillion lies etc, not the least of which was that he told Susan that Elizabeth went back to her birth mother for several months. Anyway...........
Would I do it again for Elizabeth.....in a heartbeat.......for an unknown child, NEVER AGAIN. I just cannot do that to her or Wayne and I. We are done. Once our fingerprints get back from the FBI, currently waiting for them and should be any day now, we get a court date for probate and get this child finally 100% legally ours! And we are not turning back......I love our liscensing worker, she has gone to bat for us and been nothing short of superb and she fully understands what we have been through as she was there every step of the way.
We have received calls for other children and not taken any of them. We woudl take an emergency placement, one night only but that is it and all have been more longterm children.
I will never risk Elizabeth! I will never put her through the living hell that Wayne and I went through during that time. Should a child come and then leave it would be nothing short of harmful to her at her age and I refuse to do that to my daughter. Perhaps if she was 10 or older I would consider it but we have just been burned too badly and many days it felt like being burned at the stake!
She will be our only child. I now do home childcare to get my baby and other child fix so to speak. They leave at night and Elizabeth does great with that. She was meant to be an only child and will be that way.
She has some long lasting effects of the drugs and alcohol that her mom did but we have worked very hard with her and she is thriving. We did Gymboree for a long time and do swimming, gymnastics, art play at Gymboree and I do a lot of that here at home with her now. Last summer she could not walk on the grass, would not let you put her down, this summer she did great with it and loved it. Same with sand at the beach. She now loves water. She still has some sensory stuff and we just go with it. We did not go to Grover on ice this year becuase she was having some flares of the sensory thigns, she could not handle the dryer or washer running here at home and other things were bothering her so we decided that that setting was not a good one for her at that moment. She is now fine with those things but not liking crowds, so we stay with small groups at the moment and such :)
I have never been shy about how I felt about the fostercare thing, esp when it came up onloop many months ago, but never told the whole story as to why til now.
I am not trying to talk you out of things, just learn from us if nothing else. Also, talk with Susan Titcomb. She can give you another perspective as well.
One crucial thing that I learned through everything, always honor the birth order in your home. Do not take a child older than your youngest child. That is so crucial and yet no one told us til later. We did not honor the birth order when we took the other girl and it was a nightmare! We even went through a period where Elizabeth was pushing and pounding the daycare boy I care for, becuase that was done to her by the other girl! We nipped that in the bud real fast and talked to her about what the other girl did to her and such and explained how that is wrong and hurts and such.
We also have had to parent her differently than the conventional way becuase of her exposures in life in uterero and such. We do attachment parenting with her now and don't use time out or any of that. We are pretty much Becky Bailey and Alphie Kohn at this point. If she needs to sleep with us, she does (big DHHS no no). She will give up her bottle when SHE is ready, not on our agenda and same with her pacifier.
Mind you when I say we have had the year from hell I am not kidding. We went from this to coming back from vacation and getting a bill from the IRS for a 2004 error to the tune of 5K. Hired a tax accountant to fix that nightmare and with her fees, ammending 2003, 2004 and filing 2005 we ended up owing the IRS $1,500 and the accountant $1,600 but that was far better than the first amount. I used tax software in 2004 and put somehting in the wrong category and thus the mess up. Computer software never picked it up!
Then in March my mom hit a parked car on her way to work and was ultimately diagnosed with Stage IV lung cancer with a brain met. They removed the brain met and in a matter of 10 days I had her packed and a moving company moving her here to our place in Maine, she was in Concord, NH. My husband was still out of work at this point. He and my mother in law brough Elizabeth down to the ICU the day my mom had brain surgery becuase Elizabeth was not eating and wanted mommy constantly. I had been gone for about 5 days at that point. I was outside of the ICU calling Maine DHHS in Portland to get clearance to add another adult to the home. I got voicemail after voice mail and got ugly and stated get me XXX who was the head of DHHS and told her what was going on and what i needed, fulltime daycare at my disposal and permission to have Elizabeht cross state lines to NH, this was actually the day before Wayne came down with her. Cannot take child out of state without their permission! She granted it and I called our liscensing worker and got permission from her to add my mom to the household. She was super! She said, do not worry at this moment about that, get her to Maine, settled and call me and I will come out. I had a ticked off adoption worker but I just did nto care at that point. I needed answers THEN, not 36 hours or more later when she got aroudn to calling me back!
Mom moved in in April and we added a bathroom to the basement to the tune of 10K, yeah, no kidding, I could not believe how expensive it was to be either! Thankfully Wayne got a job this month. M2M sent a very nice easter basket for Elizabeth which was so welcomed becuase I had not even thought about Easter let alone done anything for it. I will forever be grateful to the moms that did this for me and my daughter! They also sent Easter dinner!
Mom had radiation in May to her whole brain. M2M was super about helping with meals at this point as cooking was just not an option at all for me. Knowing she would never live alone again I started going through storage and her things and donated 80% of her items to the M2M yard sale (to later be told it was all junk). Mind you I was going through boxes and storage while taking her back and forth daily to radiation so that things would be ready for the yardsale on time. Later to be told it was all junk and how could I have sent junk for everyone to have to deal with. Talk about a slap in the face!
Mom was in and out of the hospital in June and came home to die July 2nd. She lived until July 8th. July they terminated the rights of 5 men, two with names and 3 john does for elizabeth's paternity. (This should have been done this time last year not 6 mos later!)
August I dealt with estate stuff (no estate but debtors and such) and started Lupron for Stage IV endometriosis. I had been slated for a full hysterectomy this summer but needless to say that got benched quickly. We also went through reliscensure as our liscense was about up and needed the update for the adoption at this time, meaning doc visits for both of us for clearance medically and such and getting our training in order to turn in and a zillion other things.
September was rough and I started physical therapy becuase Elizabeth wanted to be carried 100% of the time, she fed off my emotions and then caring for mom just did me in. I already had 2 buldging disks in my neck we foudn out about a year or so ago on MRI. I did not hear from my sister or aunt since the funeral and basically made a choice to cut toxic people from my life at this point, they both fell into that category. I could not take much more. My psychiastrist (great man) was all for this and told me that he was glad they benched surgery, that we decided to not buy a house and stay in the condo and to just lay low for a bit becuase emotionally, he was very very afraid I could not handle one single thing more this year and he was right. Hard to hear but he was so right. He felt I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown at that point and we followed up together often. He also got in touch with the maker of my antidepressant to find out what the absolute max on my meds was before this point and found out we had room to go up if we needed it. Somehow by the grace of God we did not have to! I actually had someone in my life looking out for me and doing their job and it being one I did not have to do for them. I was and am very grateful to him. I travel to York to see him now and frankly, would go out of the country if it needed to be to see him!
October was Halloween and I had a hard month. We also decided to redo the carpet in the house and tile both bathrooms. I had to redo the basement or I could never have used this room again. Just too many memories etc. Turned into another nightmare that will be fixed and redone in January, ugh.
November was Thanksgiving and I did ok then.
December has been really rough and our tree is up and the lights are on but nothing else is on it or is done. Christmas is in a few days and things are wrapped but honestly, I could care less. :(
I started grief counseling, a group actually, the end of November that was on a Thursday evening but did not continue with it becuase I was the youngest there and everyone had lost a spouse. That and my husband decided that in order to help us get out of debt he was taking on a teaching job for Gorham adult ed and had a meeting iwth them on a Thursday night, the second group night which of course meant I had to find a sitter, but with DHHS you have to have a preapproved sitter so that was not happening. I just gave up and called it quits at that point. Not doing individual counseling at this point as I am not sure of the good it would do and I am doing ok. There are good days, bad days and frankly horrible days but they are just that, days. I get through them and things are getting easier, well excpet for this whole Christmas thing. Mom always came here :( She adored Elizabeth and worshiped the ground she walked on. She wanted to see her adoption done and died before it could happen becuase of her horrible caseworker and his dragging his feet and I have just a tad bit of anger around that.
Anyway, this is way way way more than you wanted to know so sorry for being so long!
Here is the answer to your question:
If you are not ready to give a child back or put your family through hell, sign up for adoption only. Then you only will be presented with children that have their parents rights already terminated but be careful in this one. Foster parents get first refusal on adoption and if the foster parents are not adopting the child, ask why they are not, talk with the foster parents, ask tons of questions, 99% of these children come with major issues ranging from ADHD, ADD, RAD, Fetal alcohol, and a large number of other issues and generally there are a number of them per child.
Honor the birth order in your family.
Talk with the child's pediatrician before adopting. Ask if there are siblings, where they are, what are their diagnoses, that may give you an insight into the child you are looking at's future issues.
Have a therapist lined up for all of you as adding a child with the baggage these children have is hard on any family and you will need someone for this child if they don't already have someone and someone for you and your husband. Plan on stress in your home. Your children not accepting this new child after a bit of novelty wears off. Etc.
All I can tell you honestly, is buckle up becuase it will be a really rough ride no matter what you do or which way you go.
As for what to check on that paper for now, check them both off and make your mind up later on down the line.
It will come up during your homestudy and you can address your needs and wants at that time.
And I pray you have a better homestudy than we did! Our homestudy worker, they contract with a company in Gardiner, International Adoptions, walked into our house for the second meeting and told us we were too fat to be foster parents, that we should bench our application and lose 100lbs each. Yeah, threw him out! We marched into our liscensing worker's office the next morning I tell ya and she was furious. (different worker, she has since passed away from cancer) She called IA in Gardiner and requested our request of a new worker as we were no longer comfortable talking about our sex life, its frequency and satisfactory level with him! They refused and we were stuck with this clown. However I told the liscensing worker that I wanted someone from DHHS at our house for the remaining meetings. He got his butt chewed six ways come Sunday and appologized but the damage was done at that point. We finished the home study and were liscensed but figured it was becuase they were afraid we would sue them both! Needless to say we never did anything with my home office, which is now Elizabeth's nursery.
We got a call on a Friday for her, for me to pick her up at the office in 1 hour. UGH. We moved 6 yrs of crud out of that room that weekend, with a newborn as new parents, and went to Babies R Us and put about 2K on the credit card as we had NOTHING at all for a baby! Ugh.
For those of you who have already adopted, and especially those of you who have done foster adoption, what is the one (or more!) thing you wish someone had told you before you started?