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Re: [OASIS-Adopt] Melanie.....

Ours was nothing like that.  We had one class, I think, that they did some role playing but it was not required for everyone to participate.  Our complaint with MAPP is that it was very unorganized.
 
Misty

Jennifer Moore <mommy2miriam@...> wrote:
We started the process to begin foster care last month. After 2 classes we stopped doing it and haven't decided if we will start it up again or not. Our MAPP classes were not what we expected. The content was fine but the way they taught their classes was what we had a problem with. Long story, but I would love to know if it's just our county or how other places teach their MAPP classes.

For example it was all hands on. For instance when they were going over scenarios we might encounter, instead of reading about them and having discussions we would role play everything. They call it role play but I don't. In a real role play situation you are there to figure out what it might be like to walk in someones shoes. This was not the case, it was 100% scripted and the adults in the class "played" a mom and dad and their 2 kids. The 2 kids were young so they had to crawl on the floor the whole time. It went on for about 2 hours. The teacher would say "Okay children grab dad's legs, now dad push them away, now kids cry and pitch fits on the floor." And the participants literally did all of that. For 2 hours 2 adults crawled around on the floor and pitched fits by rolling around. At the end it was told that everyone would be expected to play all the roles at some point. There was no way my DH was rolling around on the floor for 2 hours. I asked the teacher afterwards why we could not have just read the scenario and discussed it like adults including how it would make us feel. She said that they have found that some of the people taking the class don't read as well as others and since they would have trouble comprehending what was written they found it easier to act everything out.

We never went back after that. I don't want to sound like we are better than anyone else but good grief. It is a class for adults, I expected it to be treated that way. I am not sure if we will just suck it up so to speak and go back or give it up altogether. We do have some private foster agencies around here so I am looking into how they teach their MAPP classes.

If it's too personal I understand but if anyone has been through MAPP I would love to hear your experiences. Is this just the way it is or just the way it is here?

Blessings,
Jennifer

On 11/10/06, Karen Grant-Tolman <kmegrant@maine.rr.com> wrote:
I was told in my state (MO) it isnt a straight foster adopt but the first
plan is reunification with the bios. Sometimes I
think I can handle it until we have one we can keep -
and sometimes I wonder if I can.
 
Every state is that way.  The first plan is to take them from the bios and put into fostercare and reunify them with the parents and if that fails for whatever reasons then they are up for adoption and the foster parents get first refusal.  That is one big downfall!
 
 
Infants aren't available for even fostering as they have a long
waiting list already. Which is okay (I guess).
 
Don't buy into that one.  We got a newborn as our first placement.  Once you are liscenced they will ask what ages you want and you can state and they will try to match you with that age, however they will also try to get you to take other ages, just stand your ground and it could take a few years but it may just happen!
 
 
My dh
is also worried about the cost of international
adoption. I'm nost sure what specific questions to ask
you! Sometimes they get judgmental on the lists about
people who want to adopt rather than *just* foster.
 
I found a lot of people on the lists are professional parents.  They either have adopted a few or none and just do fostercare as a job basically.  I found there are three types of people that do fostercare
1.  Infertiles that want a family
2.  People that do it for a living
3.  Older persons that need to supplement their retirmeent income
 
That is my experience anyway around here, Maine.

I won't dive into too much but my husband and I are in the adoption phase now with our daughter who we got as a newborn, 2 days old.  She is now 27 months old.  We woudl go to the end of the planet for her however for an unknown child, never again.  We came too close to losing her to her bio a few times and then when bio had rights terminated we had a horrible case worker who thought that people with more money than us and a bigger house etc should raise our daughter and he moved her.  We had no legal grounds.  I fought with all we had and we got her home in 10 days but those were the worst 10 days of my life and I will NEVER go through this again, EVER.  Once our adoption is done I will be more than happy to share all the gory details as I have pages and pages of notes and conversations that were lies etc.  It was just horrific. 
 
One thing you can do and I know Tammy H did this was just do adoption.  You get liscencsed the same way as fostering however instead of doing fostercare first you just sign up to adopt.  Children that are cleared for adoption then are the ones that you would meet and visit with and potentially go from there for adoption.  I would recommend this route but also ask questions like why are the fosterparents not adopting this child?  Go in eyes wide open and you can come out a great family.  We were just too nieve to believe the system could be as bad as it is this day in age and it about killed us in the process. 
 
Hugs
Karen




Misty
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I was told in my state (MO) it isnt a straight foster adopt but the first plan is reunification with the bios. Sometimes I think I can handle it until we have...
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We started the process to begin foster care last month. After 2 classes we stopped doing it and haven't decided if we will start it up again or not. Our MAPP...
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Ours was nothing like that. We had one class, I think, that they did some role playing but it was not required for everyone to participate. Our complaint...
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Jennifer, WOW! That is totally ridiculous! My hubby would NOT do that either. I have never heard of such a thing. In our classes we read a lot & our...
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Hi Melanie, I just read Karen's reply to your message. Yes, my hubby & I adopted through our state, WV. When we started the process we specified that we were...
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