The NAMI Lubbock Egroup exists to allow members to have intelligent, educational
and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
especially Support, Education and Advocacy.  The NAMI Lubbock Egroup is open to
only members of NAMI Lubbock who agree to conduct themselves in a professional
and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

The NAMI Lubbock Egroup exists to allow members to have intelligent, educational
and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
especially Support, Education and Advocacy.  The NAMI Lubbock Egroup is open to
only members of NAMI Lubbock who agree to conduct themselves in a professional
and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

Hello, all

Esperanza magazine is working on an article, “Hope in Recovery from
Depression,” and wants to talk with people with depression who have found
that setting goals and working to achieve them tends to make them more hopeful
and more likely to recover.

Has goal-setting worked--or not worked--for you?  Goals can be large or small.
     * A person who has not left the house in weeks may set a goal of walking
around the block
     * Cleaning a closet
     * Reconnecting with family or friends
     * Taking a course at a community college
     * Returning to work

The article is not about religion, but the magazine is interested in how
spirituality may play a role in hopefulness and goal-setting.

Responses are urgently needed. The magazine has a deadline this week.

If you want to share your experience, please contact Donna Jackel of Esperanza
directly at ddjackel@... or 585-797-8246

Please also forward this message to anyone whom you think might be interested.

Many thanks,

Bob Carolla

Director of Media Relations

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and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

One of the primary goals of the Mental Health Transformation effort in Texas is to make the mental health system consumer and family focused.  To assist in this effort, the Department of State Health Services (DSHS) has allocated funding to establish a mental health consumer, family, and youth training and technical assistance center.  DSHS has contracted with Mental Health America of Texas and their sub-contractor, the National Alliance on Mental Illness-Texas (NAMI), to develop the center.

To ensure that the training provided through this center truly meets the needs of consumers, family members, and youth, as well as the professionals who support them, it is critical that we hear from them directly regarding the types of training that would be most useful.  We also want input from providers regarding training that they believe should be provided. The following link https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=129044  will take you to a training needs assessment.  Please send this email on to your organization’s distribution list and ask them to complete the survey.  If you have received this survey directly or indirectly and serve consumers, please make this survey available to them to complete, either by providing the link or making an Internet-connected computer available to them to use.

Another one of our tasks for the next few months is to make recommendations to DSHS regarding development of a peer training and certification program for Texas.  Section three of the survey asks for information that will help inform those recommendations.

You can complete the survey by clicking on the above link or you can copy and paste it in a browser.  We estimate the survey will take about fifteen minutes to complete.  If you have questions about this survey, please call Valarie Garza at NAMI, at 512-693-2000.  We would like to have as many responses as possible by May 15^th; however, we will continue to accept responses after that.

Fountain Park Plaza III      2800 South IH 35 Suite 140           Austin, Texas 78704

512-693-2000                            512-693-8000                           www.namitexas.org

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http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
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few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
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David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

In looking at the list of board members who are driving vs those flying, I have
a lot more driving to Lubbock than I expected and only a few that are flying. 
Therefore we will have lots of cars available to move folks around so I really
won't need anybody else to help with that now BUT if you would like to attend
the board meeting of NAMI Texas, please feel free to come.  It will be at the
Center for the Study of Addiction and Recovery on the Tech campus.  The meeting
begins at 9 am and will go through lunch.  The afternoon will be board
development things.  You guys on our board are encouraged to attend the board
development/training things in the afternoon too.
David

Dear NAMI Texas Board Members,
I'm looking forward to having everyone here in Lubbock next weekend for our
Spring board meeting. If you need instructions once you are here or get lost or
anything, please call me on my cell at 806-773-4090 and I'll guide you in. I am
working on a map to show the location of the hotel and the Center for the Study
Addiction and Recovery on campus which I'll email or have copies for you here.
Transportation however shouldn't be problem. I have rounded up a few members of
NAMI Lubbock to help transport you around but I'll have a map if you strike off
on your own. Lubbock is a easy town to move around in as the streets are
numbered going east and west and are alphabetical going north and south except
for few exceptions one of which you will be on. Just remember 12th Street equals
Broadway, its the main drag onto campus.
We will need to arrive on campus at 8:30 am where breakfast will await you.
Lunch will be served at noon in the center. The 10 day forcast says next
Saturday will be partly cloudy with highs in the mid 70's and low's in the 40's.
I'm still very vague about when many of you are arriving. If you are flying in,
we will do our best to pick you up at the airport if I know when to meet you
there. I would like to know if you are driving also so I can gauge how much
additional transportation I'll need.
Let me know if you have any questions.
David

Just a reminder to everyone, I have arranged for the board of NAMI Texas to meet
in Lubbock on April 18.  I will probably need some help with transportation from
some of you if you don't mind helping me do a little pickup and delivery of
folks at the airport and between the Raddison and campus.  Of course, all board
meetings are open to NAMI members so you are welcome to attend. The meeting will
be held at the Center for the Study of Addiction and Recovery at TTU.
Email me at drgibson@... if you have any questions or can help me.
David

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and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
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and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

I have received an email from someone who does special needs planning
in the Woodlands with some NAMI people there.  If you are interested
in talking with him, you can arrange a meeting while he is in town.
NAMI does not make recommendations about anyone in this line of work
but is aware of the needs of some members.
David


I will be in Lubbock on January 30 and departing at 1 PM on  the 31st
to meet with clients and several support groups. I have several open
time slots if you have an interest in discussing any special needs
planning  issue.

The open slots are:
1/30  3 - 5 (2 possible meeting times)
1/30  7 - 9 PM  (2 possible meeting  times)
1/31  7 - 8 AM  (1 meeting)
1/31  9 - 11:30 AM  (2 possible meeting times)

Please let me know if  you are interested and send your address and
possible times. I'll do my best to  fit as many as possible in
depending on the time and location that fits your  schedule.

Thanks.



Steve
Steven C. Rhatigan, CEP,  ChLAP
Estate & Financial Plans for Special Needs
Post Office  Box 8129
The Woodlands, Texas 77387
Office (281) 364-7211 Fax (713)  456-2641
Email _steve@..._ (mailto:steve@...)

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and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

The NAMI Lubbock Egroup exists to allow members to have intelligent, educational
and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
especially Support, Education and Advocacy.  The NAMI Lubbock Egroup is open to
only members of NAMI Lubbock who agree to conduct themselves in a professional
and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

Hey gang,
I need EVERYONES help with this little project.  City Bank is giving
away five $10,000.00 awards to local non-profits and all we have to do
is to vote for NAMI Lubbock on their website.  I'm sure the new board
members and officers would really like to have $10,000 to use next
year to run NAMI Lubbock on.  You need to vote every day and can vote
once for every email address you have.  I'm voting on two addresses
now and am about to jump to 4 every day.  The contest runs through Dec
21.  We are getting a late start at this so we will need to stay the
course of the voting.  Our friends at MHMR are currently leading the
vote getting as of today because they have been very organized in
their efforts.  Please help as we need the money to help continue our
operations.  Remember this is everyday and $10,000.00 could make
SSSooooo much difference in our operations.  OK, here's the link to
click on:

https://www.citybankonline.com/community-rewards/vote.html

David

PS They are also giving away $500.00 to a lucky voter so vote early
and vote often.

Hello -

I am writing to ask your assistance in passing on an invitation to
participate in a study of the best and worst movie portrayals of
mental illness and its treatment. Through a prior survey, nominees
were determined for each of these categories. The final ballot can be
accessed through this link
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=DQ9eYt26xjctu8a_2byzUzVQ_3d_3d
or by visiting my www.psychmovies.com website.

To date, approximately 200 people have responded, primarily psychology
students and mental health professionals. I am hoping to also have
mental health services consumers and their families represented.

This project was approved by nami.org and is posted on the national
website:

http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=Court_Watch1&template=/ContentManagemen\
t/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=60478


Any assistance you may provide would be most appreciated!

Sincerely,

Brooke J. Cannon, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology,
Director of Clinical Training, Psy.D. Program
Marywood University
2300 Adams Avenue
Scranton, PA 18509
(570) 348-6211 x2324

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and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

This is a very important opinion from the Texas Attorney General about
insurance parity on mental health issues.

www.oag.state.tx.us/opinions/opinions/50abbott/op/2008/htm/ga-0674.htm

The NAMI Lubbock Egroup exists to allow members to have intelligent, educational
and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
especially Support, Education and Advocacy.  The NAMI Lubbock Egroup is open to
only members of NAMI Lubbock who agree to conduct themselves in a professional
and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

The NAMI Lubbock Egroup exists to allow members to have intelligent, educational
and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
especially Support, Education and Advocacy.  The NAMI Lubbock Egroup is open to
only members of NAMI Lubbock who agree to conduct themselves in a professional
and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

The NAMI Lubbock Egroup exists to allow members to have intelligent, educational
and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
especially Support, Education and Advocacy.  The NAMI Lubbock Egroup is open to
only members of NAMI Lubbock who agree to conduct themselves in a professional
and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

The NAMI Lubbock Egroup exists to allow members to have intelligent, educational
and spirited discussions on any issues concerning primarily NAMI Lubbock,
especially Support, Education and Advocacy.  The NAMI Lubbock Egroup is open to
only members of NAMI Lubbock who agree to conduct themselves in a professional
and courteous manner.  This group is also governed by the terms of service of
Groups.Yahoo.com as listed on their website at
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html.  While this announcement is not
intended to replace all the terms of service previously referred to, here are a
few of the highlights.
   1. No personal attacks or threats will be tolerated.  You can disagree with
anything or anyone and still be courteous.
   2. Watch your language and choose your words carefully.  We are a family
group.
   3. You need to sign your name to every message.  You are responsible for what
you post to this group.  Your email address appears with your posts so there is
no such thing as an anonymous post here.
   4. Do not write your message in all capitals.  All caps is perceived as
SHOUTING and is harder to read.  Give your Caps Lock key a rest.
   5. Do not cross post messages from other egroups to this one unless they
relate to mental health issues in this area.  This egroup is not designed to
replace or duplicate egroups sponsored by NAMI Texas.  Members of this egroup
are encouraged to also be a member of the NAMI Texas general egroup and should
not cross-post messages from the two groups.  Members do not wish to receive
duplicate messages from the two groups.

Questions may be addressed to David Gibson at drgibson@....

David Gibson
NAMI Lubbock

The NAMI Texas Fundraising Committee is planning to have a Live Auction at the
NAMI Texas Conference in October. We are in need of items to auction –We need
donations of Gift Baskets, Jewelry, Art Work, Gift Cards, Airline Tickets,
Donated Services, etc…Will you help us with a donation?  If interested, please
contact Patti Haynes at 972-475-4786 or email her at phaynes@.... Thank
you!

I want to remind everyone of the board meeting this Thursday night at the CLC
again.
This time, for sure, I have attached a copy of the minutes for our meeting but I
will have printed copies there since I sent to the wrong address and now you are
getting it so late.
See you there.
David