Re: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do - Where does Training and Certification fit?
> This has been a great topic and I'm not trying to cut it short, but
> I want to throw a twist in to keep discussion here, at least
> partially addressing Certification.
>
> Question - What part, if any, would a standard certification, on the
> lines of the NRCEV certifications, play within this discussion?
Let me answer that question in reverse (where I think it has a stronger
link)...
I see some sort of experience as a vital element in upper level
certifications
I think most people here would agree that real communications emergencies
are thankfully rare in the US, therefore many EComm operators are likely to
get most of their 'experience' in non-emergency activities and in drills
(such as both described so well in Ron Dodson's messages).
With that in mind, I would be interested in seeing some discussion of just
what sort of activities and drills should be considered equivalent to real
EComm experience. I have to say that I have seen some drills that were more
stressful than some real EComm assignments - so certainly there are drills
that are every bit as good as the real thing as a learning experience - and
there are also drills that consist of nothing more than simulating passing a
couple of pieces of scripted traffic, sometimes with the traffic even being
introduced at the "receiving" end instead of being originated somewhere.
From a EComm aspect such "drills" are no more realistic than a table top
exercise.
... I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs to do on a week-to-week basis. There are potential clients that will use us. It may be...
Joe Moell K0OV wrote: I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs to do on a week-to-week basis. I agree. In Kentucky we have several...
... From: Ron Dodson Subject: RE: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do ... But NOT Emergency Communications -- the difference between Emergency Communications versus...
N4AOF wrote: To the extent that the ham radio organizations are actually involved in serving these agencies, it would represent good PRACTICE for emergency ...
Hi All Again here the point is being missed communicating with a served agency in all of these other activities, which are non-emergency in nature, will make...
The very point that I was trying to get across and said so poorly apparently. If they know you, trust you and come to see you for the little stuff, then they...
I agree -- training kicks in when the chips are down. If you are comfortable with your radio and with net discipline then it will be easier when things are...
This has been a great topic and I'm not trying to cut it short, but I want to throw a twist in to keep discussion here, at least partially addressing...
This has been in discussion in Ky since back when I first became Ky SEC in early 1999. KyEM (state EMA) had started doing a state credential for County EMA...
... Let me answer that question in reverse (where I think it has a stronger link)... I see some sort of experience as a vital element in upper level ...
OK Will now that's a case of you have to show your self off. Most of the people in the powers that be area don't know that oh for instanst that most cell...
... of those ... I still disagree, and again I lift up Orange County Hospital Disaster Support Communications System (under ARES) as an example that hospitals...
I don't think these exercises are rare at all. I think that hams committing to what it takes to be actively included and then doing the job are what is rare....
I started to reply to this message but I gave up. Every time I read a paragraph and started to develop part of a discussion I found that the next paragraph...
While there were a number of time gaps due to distractions while trying to do this email, your conclusions of it are not what I was attempting to convey. ...
What world are you living in? ... From: wb5izd To: NRCEV@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 13:05 Subject: Re: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do During...
The sentence should have stated "during THE START and immediately AFTER THE START of the emergency". That means during the time the infrastructure is still...
Do you mean to say that CW is the only mode that might work in the early stages of an emergency? While I am an avid CW person (though not on the air very...
... He is still living in the imaginary world of the ARRL where "Emergency Communications" consists of hams sending formal message traffic to other hams --...
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