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We DO have jobs to do - Where does Training and Certification fit?

This has been a great topic and I'm not trying to cut it short, but
I want to throw a twist in to keep discussion here, at least
partially addressing Certification.

Question - What part, if any, would a standard certification, on the
lines of the NRCEV certifications, play within this discussion?

Part of this discussion revolves around have "enough" for folks to
do to keep them interested and part deals with gaining the trust of
served agencies so that they are comfortable including EmComm
volunteers on a regular and meaningfull basis.

In the KY Region 5 exercise Don mentioned there were hams that never
worked together before or served agencies were not familiar with.
Was any part of the after action discussion about credentialling and
or standard training?

Just curious - what your input?

Chris, NG3F
NRCEV


--- In NRCEV@yahoogroups.com, "homingin73" <Homingin@...> wrote:
>
> Doug wrote:
> >That is a lack of a job to do. Fortunately
> >communications emergencies are rare events.
>
> I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs
to
> do on a week-to-week basis. There are potential clients that will
use
> us. It may be true that "all else fails" events are rare, but
> communications disruptions do occur regularly. If hams are ready
and
> callout systems are in place, we can serve agencies in these
> emergencies, getting valuable on-the-job training and developing
> excellent rapport with agency leaders.
>
> Take a look at www.hdscs.org
>
> This ARES group has never had an "all else fails" disaster, but in
25
> years it has responded almost 100 times to provide valuable service
> when hospital patients' lives were at risk due to comms
interruptions.
> Ask any hospital disaster planner or Emergency Medical Services
> Agency person in Orange County about ham radio and they will have
> plenty of good things to say because of this continuous level of
> preparedness and service.
>
> That brings me to my beef with ARRL leadership -- it has been too
> focused on "all else fails" Katrina-like disasters and has not paid
> enough attention to hams' providing valuable support in
the "little"
> emergencies that will cement our bonds with agencies and get us
ready
> for the really big events.
>
> 73,
> Joe Moell K0OV
> Assistant Coordinator, HDSCS
>





Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:59 pm

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... I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs to do on a week-to-week basis. There are potential clients that will use us. It may be...
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Jun 12, 2007
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Joe Moell K0OV wrote: I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs to do on a week-to-week basis. I agree. In Kentucky we have several...
Ron Dodson
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Jun 14, 2007
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... From: Ron Dodson Subject: RE: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do ... But NOT Emergency Communications -- the difference between Emergency Communications versus...
n4aof
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Jun 14, 2007
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N4AOF wrote: To the extent that the ham radio organizations are actually involved in serving these agencies, it would represent good PRACTICE for emergency ...
Ron Dodson
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Jun 14, 2007
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Hi All Again here the point is being missed communicating with a served agency in all of these other activities, which are non-emergency in nature, will make...
Henry T Sahler III
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Jun 14, 2007
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The very point that I was trying to get across and said so poorly apparently. If they know you, trust you and come to see you for the little stuff, then they...
Ron Dodson
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Jun 14, 2007
4:46 pm

I agree -- training kicks in when the chips are down. If you are comfortable with your radio and with net discipline then it will be easier when things are...
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Jun 14, 2007
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This has been a great topic and I'm not trying to cut it short, but I want to throw a twist in to keep discussion here, at least partially addressing...
Chris
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Jun 14, 2007
5:01 pm

This has been in discussion in Ky since back when I first became Ky SEC in early 1999. KyEM (state EMA) had started doing a state credential for County EMA...
Ron Dodson
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Jun 14, 2007
5:52 pm

... Let me answer that question in reverse (where I think it has a stronger link)... I see some sort of experience as a vital element in upper level ...
n4aof
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Jun 15, 2007
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OK Will now that's a case of you have to show your self off. Most of the people in the powers that be area don't know that oh for instanst that most cell...
Henry T Sahler III
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Jun 14, 2007
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... of those ... I still disagree, and again I lift up Orange County Hospital Disaster Support Communications System (under ARES) as an example that hospitals...
homingin73
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Jun 15, 2007
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Absolutely excellent, Ron, but I think you would have to agree that such exercises are even more rare than actual communications emergencies. ...
n4aof
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Jun 15, 2007
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I don't think these exercises are rare at all. I think that hams committing to what it takes to be actively included and then doing the job are what is rare....
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n0trk
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Jun 15, 2007
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I started to reply to this message but I gave up. Every time I read a paragraph and started to develop part of a discussion I found that the next paragraph...
n4aof
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Jun 16, 2007
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While there were a number of time gaps due to distractions while trying to do this email, your conclusions of it are not what I was attempting to convey. ...
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Jun 16, 2007
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What world are you living in? ... From: wb5izd To: NRCEV@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 13:05 Subject: Re: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do During...
n4aof
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Jun 17, 2007
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The sentence should have stated "during THE START and immediately AFTER THE START of the emergency". That means during the time the infrastructure is still...
wb5izd
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Jun 17, 2007
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Do you mean to say that CW is the only mode that might work in the early stages of an emergency? While I am an avid CW person (though not on the air very...
Robert Copelan
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Jun 18, 2007
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... He is still living in the imaginary world of the ARRL where "Emergency Communications" consists of hams sending formal message traffic to other hams --...
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Jun 18, 2007
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The day after Katrina hit Louisiana and Mississippi, I picked my way down I-59 to where my elderly mother and two sisters were staying in southern Mississippi,...
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