Again here the point is being missed communicating with a served agency in all of these other activities, which are non-emergency in nature, will make communication in an emergency seem like every day, normal, (I hate to say it but ) routine stuff. Because there is and are different stresses in these activities, stress is stress and if one learns to control it when the chips are not down, when they are its not a problem.
Joe Moell K0OV wrote: I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs to do on a week-to-week basis.
I agree. In Kentucky we have several groups who assist regular localized activities.
In western Kentucky, we have one group who regularly assists local EMA with checks on county storm warning devices (Sirens). They report on any which fail to activate during regular scheduled tests.
Another northern Kentucky ARES group are called in on almost any lost person search to support the law enforcement search efforts and yes, they are trained in lost person search and in many cases a good deal of the members have even taken search management training. Other groups work with local CitizenCorpsCERT’s and regional National Disaster Medical System (NDMS) and Metropolitan Medical Response System (MMRS) activities while others work with regional weapons of mass destruction/ haz-mat/ bio response teams that our state homeland security operate. One south central Ky group performs “Highway Overpass Watch” details assisting local law enforcement in preventing trouble at interstate overpasses on events such as Halloween night. There is a world of things one can do if you make the right connections and carry out requests responsibly.
73,
Ron Dodson, KA4MAP
Former Ky SEC
-----Original Message----- From: NRCEV@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NRCEV@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of homingin73 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:43 AM To: NRCEV@yahoogroups.com Subject: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do
Doug wrote: >That is a lack of a job to do. Fortunately >communications emergencies are rare events.
There are potential clients that will use us. It may be true that "all else fails" events are rare, but communications disruptions do occur regularly. If hams are ready and callout systems are in place, we can serve agencies in these emergencies, getting valuable on-the-job training and developing excellent rapport with agency leaders.
Take a look at www.hdscs.org
This ARES group has never had an "all else fails" disaster, but in 25 years it has responded almost 100 times to provide valuable service when hospital patients' lives were at risk due to comms interruptions. Ask any hospital disaster planner or Emergency Medical Services Agency person in Orange County about ham radio and they will have plenty of good things to say because of this continuous level of preparedness and service.
That brings me to my beef with ARRL leadership -- it has been too focused on "all else fails" Katrina-like disasters and has not paid enough attention to hams' providing valuable support in the "little" emergencies that will cement our bonds with agencies and get us ready for the really big events.
... I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs to do on a week-to-week basis. There are potential clients that will use us. It may be...
Joe Moell K0OV wrote: I disagree. With a little effort, hams COULD have important jobs to do on a week-to-week basis. I agree. In Kentucky we have several...
... From: Ron Dodson Subject: RE: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do ... But NOT Emergency Communications -- the difference between Emergency Communications versus...
N4AOF wrote: To the extent that the ham radio organizations are actually involved in serving these agencies, it would represent good PRACTICE for emergency ...
Hi All Again here the point is being missed communicating with a served agency in all of these other activities, which are non-emergency in nature, will make...
The very point that I was trying to get across and said so poorly apparently. If they know you, trust you and come to see you for the little stuff, then they...
I agree -- training kicks in when the chips are down. If you are comfortable with your radio and with net discipline then it will be easier when things are...
This has been a great topic and I'm not trying to cut it short, but I want to throw a twist in to keep discussion here, at least partially addressing...
This has been in discussion in Ky since back when I first became Ky SEC in early 1999. KyEM (state EMA) had started doing a state credential for County EMA...
... Let me answer that question in reverse (where I think it has a stronger link)... I see some sort of experience as a vital element in upper level ...
OK Will now that's a case of you have to show your self off. Most of the people in the powers that be area don't know that oh for instanst that most cell...
... of those ... I still disagree, and again I lift up Orange County Hospital Disaster Support Communications System (under ARES) as an example that hospitals...
I don't think these exercises are rare at all. I think that hams committing to what it takes to be actively included and then doing the job are what is rare....
I started to reply to this message but I gave up. Every time I read a paragraph and started to develop part of a discussion I found that the next paragraph...
While there were a number of time gaps due to distractions while trying to do this email, your conclusions of it are not what I was attempting to convey. ...
What world are you living in? ... From: wb5izd To: NRCEV@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 13:05 Subject: Re: [NRCEV] We DO have jobs to do During...
The sentence should have stated "during THE START and immediately AFTER THE START of the emergency". That means during the time the infrastructure is still...
Do you mean to say that CW is the only mode that might work in the early stages of an emergency? While I am an avid CW person (though not on the air very...
... He is still living in the imaginary world of the ARRL where "Emergency Communications" consists of hams sending formal message traffic to other hams --...
The day after Katrina hit Louisiana and Mississippi, I picked my way down I-59 to where my elderly mother and two sisters were staying in southern Mississippi,...
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