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Re: [NDPhilosophy] Re: Spicy Debate...Any takers???

Well, if we apply a tool to cure the unhealthy...What makes us any different than any other doctor?  Do we promote cure?  Isn't it really the patients own body that does the work?  Do we attempt to remove the obstacles and watch the vis in action? 
 
No, I don't personally believe that we are learning the Vis.  I think that we attempt to understand that amazing force called the Vis...but, it seems like saying that we are learning God/Goddess/Whatever higher power that you believe in.  Do you learn God?   It is my thought that we are learning the aspects of health, variations from health, and nature that are tangible to us...I emphasize tangible.  What do we do?....Attempt to clean up the waste, promote normal blood and lymph, and increase vitality (isn't that tweaking around on the physical level and hoping that the vital force can properly channel that amazing vis?).
 
Are these just semantics?  Or, are they fundamental philosophical concepts that we should be questioning and seeking answers for?
 
I'll end with a statement that may cause some discomfort...Do I run a battery of tests, treat lab values as the end all be all, throw a bunch of supplements at a patient, and cause cure? Is that really any different that the allopathic model?  Also, something I observed alot in private practices, but not actually on site while in school...when was the last time you asked a patient on your initial intake, "do you have a spiritual connection?, what is is?, how do you feel about this?" 
 
I respect and honor your words...and thank you for being the only one to join the discussion thus far.
Peace and Light~MaryK
 
 

 
On 6/13/07, moehabbahoo <moehabbahoo@...> wrote:

Hello,

I thought that we were supposed to use the tools available to us to
promote cure and health in our patients. So we use these tools
(homeopathy, manipulation, nutrition, hydrotherapy, mind body
medicine, etc)to accomplish our mission to cure the unhealthy.

As far as the phrase "learning the vis", in my inexperienced
experience, I have not heard people using that phrase. As doctors in
training are we not trying to learn the vis anyway? I don't find this
controversial at all, it is what we are doing.

tom




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Dr. MaryK Martin Geyer, NMD
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Humankind has not woven the web of life.  We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.  All things are bound together.  All things connect. ~Chief Seattle, 1854

Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:48 pm

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Wake up my philosophy friends/colleagues. I hope to spurn an avid discussion in this forum. So, I will pose some spicy questions. I'm going to state at the...
MaryK
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Jun 12, 2007
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Hello, I thought that we were supposed to use the tools available to us to promote cure and health in our patients. So we use these tools (homeopathy,...
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Jun 13, 2007
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Well, if we apply a tool to cure the unhealthy...What makes us any different than any other doctor? Do we promote cure? Isn't it really the patients own body...
MaryK Martin Geyer
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Hello again everyone, My thoughts on the original questions, I guess are these... I don't believe we can stimulate the VMN, I believe we can change our vital...
William Franklin
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... Since mind/body/and spirit are not separate then how is it possible to tweak only one? In addition many of our modalities focus act directly on the...
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OK I'll bite. "Since mind/body/spirit are not separate then how is it possible to tweak only one?" That is a very good question! How is it possible for...
William Franklin
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... Yes, they are both affecting the mind/body/spirit unity. But, and a big but, one of them is consciously working WITH the laws of nature, the vis, to...
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Hey everyone, You make some good points Luke. My point was that one of the main slanders we have about allopatihc treatments is that "they only treat the...
William Franklin
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Hey everyone..... I like your talk to William.... always have :0) I'd like to add a few things to the discussion, and try to offer a few more thought from a...
serron wilkie
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Mm. Thanks Serron, I've been looking forward to hearing you in here! Thanks for that reminder, there is truly a fine line between healthy and unhealthy...
William Franklin
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Alright, I'll bite, but I hope you aren't disappointed that I'm not coming in with my rhetorical fists swinging. At best, I've got a few observations. Or...
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