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Re: Is chelation therapy philosophically in line?

Hello, Jared,

Thanks for sharing so much. I do have a point of confusion regarding
what you wrote. Is the only difference between, say, oral Captomer and
IV DMSA, for example, both of which are used to chelate patients, the
fact that a needle is inserted into the vein directly with the IV DMSA,
vs. the Captomer being absorbed into the portal vein post ingestion?
Are you saying it's the actual insertion of the needle that violates
the Vital Force, vs. essentially the same medicine being absorbed
orally, which is why you are okay with oral chelation medicine? On
that same line, then, is a monthly injection of B12 for a person with
pernicious anemia then a violation of the Vital Force vs. using a
sublingual tablet? Please clarify these points for me with your
unending wisdom!

Mona Morstein, ND
Mesa, AZ




I would disagree with this statement. In the first place, IV therapy
violates the vis medicatrix, in my opinion, in that it bypasses the
body's wisdom
regarding the composition of the blood. This does not mean that it
should
never be done, necessarily but that it is a high force intervention.

The therapeutic order contains several concepts. The first step,
really, is
to address acute concerns. The next step is to identify and remove
causes.
The plaquing in the arteries is not a cause as much as it is an
effect. I
have totally cleared arteries, by evidence of arteriogram, by dietary
changes,
exercise, and hydrotherapy, much to the amazement of a local
cardiologist.
If this is possible, why introduce foreign substances into the blood
by an
unnatural route which may have significant adverse consequences for the
patient? I am not arguing against chelation therapy, per se, but it is
not a first
order therapeutic, it is a 6th or 7th order therapeutic by its nature.
At
least, in my opinion.

Jared Zeff, ND
Salmon Creek, WA

Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:45 pm

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I would love to stir up some deep reflection and thoughts on a topic that I've been adamently questioning for a long time now. Is chelation therapy...
MaryK
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Apr 15, 2007
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Mary - What, exactly is your take on it? Why would you consider it harmful? If so, would any IV therapy or therapeutic vitamin therapy be in the same ...
Chance Diebold, ND
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Apr 15, 2007
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Well, I'll weigh in with a few thoughts. My first thought is that I'm not sure I understand the question. It seems to me that it assumes chelation causes...
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Apr 16, 2007
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Sorry to answer a question with a question, but I'm new to the clinic and actually using the therapeutic order. Isn't the first step "Remove obstacles to...
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Apr 16, 2007
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I see that my original question was more poorly articulated that I had realized. Let me expound. My question is not whether or not it is in our arsenal (as I...
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Thanks for the clarification. It seems to me that the issue is around this phrase "fundamentally Naturopathic." If that is defined as meaning that only those...
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I think utilizing chelation therapy gives us the opportunity to remove significant obstacles to health that most people in this age have as a result of...
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Apr 18, 2007
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I do not usually pipe in on these sort of topics, but I want to this time. Combining a single or combination of substances that have been extracted or...
Jerry Taylor Jr.
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In a message dated 4/15/2007 9:31:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dj.williamson@... writes: Sorry to answer a question with a question, but I'm new to the...
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Dr Zeff and fellow philosophers, I appreciate your insights on chelation therapy and the therapeutic order. Could you clarify a point? Since your comments...
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In a message dated 4/23/2007 9:41:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dj.williamson@... writes: It is my understanding that toxins and heavy metals place a...
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Dr. Zeff, thank you for sharing more details on your approach to chelation. Since I'm just a beginner, may I dare to ask a clinical question? If this is out of...
Katherine Farber
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Dear Katherine, I assess the metal burden by a DMSA oral challenge, followed by 8 hour urine. I use Doctor's Data labs for the testing. I have used IV DMPS...
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Hello, Jared, Thanks for sharing so much. I do have a point of confusion regarding what you wrote. Is the only difference between, say, oral Captomer and IV...
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In a message dated 4/24/2007 7:50:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, monam@... writes: Is the only difference between, say, oral Captomer and IV DMSA, for...
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