... Let me lay it out for you again, as simply as I can. Applying a negative-diopter lens to any group of animals consistently results in a more negative...
Dear Second-opinion friends, I have read the Flitcroft paper. I do NOT agree with Judy's "spin" on the paper, but will agree that she is stating her...
... I think an intelligent scientist can understand the difference between confining a primate to a cage and fitting minus lenses to correct existing myopia. ...
... Your title is wrong. The AOA meeting is not a serious research meeting. It is a combination of continuing education about clinical matters and a...
Dear Judy, Here are the refractive STATE profiles of primates kept in the "open", and primates kept in cages for seven years. Perhaps you could form a "rescue"...
Dear Judy, You may have not noticed, but no one to date has been concerned with prescribing a minus lens for monkeys who have a negative refractive STATE. But...
I asked if you have any evidence for myopic primates getting more myopic while wearing minus to correct their myopia. You have not answered, so I guess you...
This meeting was held in Washington, DC this summer. No engineer/scientists were invided. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Exw6fJMhM I wonder why not. Perhaps...
Dear Judy, Stop mis-quoting what I say about the MEASURED refractive STATES of the fundamental eye. Judy> As I have pointed out to you many times, I (and...
... I don't get your analogy. Doctors do not recommend a blood pressure lowering drug to those without high blood pressure. Similarly, they do not recommend...
... Evidence we have aplenty, which you keep denying. It's all here: http://www.i-see.org/myopia_correction.html ... You seem almost proud of the fact that...
... As I have pointed out to you many times, I (and likely most vision researchers and clinicians) would agree that the eye changes it's refractive power over...
Dear Judy, Subject: WHO judges scientific evidence that the eye is dynamic?? Re: On a pure SCIENTIFIC LEVEL, or by people who "quick fix" in an office. Since...
... I asked: "If you have any evidence for myopic primates getting more myopic while wearing minus to correct their myopia, please share it." The Flitcroft...
Dear Mike, I never said "myopia". I said, "the dynamic behavior of the eye, measured as refractive STATES". But let us review: Tyner> The 2008 Vision...
Dear Judy, I admit that you have a profoundly CLOSED MIND to ALL SCIENCE that shows that the fundamental eye is DYNAMIC -- in the first place. I have posted...
Dear Mike, Subject: Mikes web reference: You're welcome to take this up with the authors at http://tinyurl.com/m3w3tt It was a news item in Clinical...
... If anyone here finds Judy's statement reassuring with regard to the untested safety of the minus lens on people with pre-existing negative refractive...
... I searched PubMed and sci.med.vision but did not find any studies or statements by Dr Flitcroft in which myopic primates with with fitted with minus lenses...
... So you admit that you are unaware of any evidence that minus lenses, used to correct in existing myopia in primates, causes progression of myopia. Thanks...
Dear Judy, You will find part of Dr. Flitcroft's response on sci.med.vision. But for now, we must EXTRAPOLATE the behavior of tne natural or fundamental eye,...
... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/38c8527a79306740/e6757f74fc1078b1?hl=en& ... A child with a slight "negative state" will...
BlueGrass is PClarkii -- with a changed name. BlueGrass> I have a PhD. My judgment is that wearing "the plus" has no effect on development of ammetropia. ...
In article <aPadnfes4bqNbqHXnZ2dnUVZ_hCdn...@...>, ... Well before the internet and this newsgroup and before Otis, I figured out the cause of myopia...
Dear Second-opinion (prevention minded) friend, I posted reference to your site on sci.med.vision. I greatly appreciate your "graphs" – that I consider a...
After being presented with a video of Japnese kids with THEIR NOSE ON THE BOOK, and the fact that the percentage of kid, (and college students) reaching form...
It is very clear that very few people "care" about their distant vision -- including the optometrist himself. It is essential that YOU understand this issue...
Subject: Posting an erudite evaluation of the natural eye's dynamic behavior. Re: Scientific and Statistical analysis. Re: The response of a "layman" who...