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To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
From: biszanta@...
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:34:22 +0000
Subject: [MyEDHelpSupport] It was a hard day. I'm doing minibinges

I went and saw the doc yesterday about this torturous all over body
rash I've had for six mo. No exercise, no heat, no hot showers, no
going outside if possible. I guess I better turn into being an
author. That's ok too, because that is happening.

Did I turn you guys all off by sharing about a related health
problem? We had a good thing going with Ari, Erin, Melissa, et al,
and then no one signed on yesterday or today? Sorry If I scared you
off. I have alot of answers and a little bit of recovery, but
sometimes, I need feedback.

I found an outpatient 1 hour a week group for eating disorders. I'm
going to do that while I wait for the outpatient program starts that
I am going to be a part of. It's in South Florida, if any of you are
in the area, it's a place called Hollywood Pavilion, and they deal
with all sorts of things like trauma, d.i.d., depression, and now,
eating disorders.

What did you guys do for treatment?
I noticed two of the women were in Florida. You are invited to come
down to Hollywood Beach, to stay and do pal, wal, stuff on the beach
or I would meet you half way. Can we put a picture to these mails if
we want to?

I run a meeting of Eating Disorders Anonymous and last night no one
came. Boy did that make me feel like a loser! Maybe it will be better
next week. It started out busier, with alot of refugees from OA and
FAA, many burnt out on all the drill sargeant and strictness that
goes on with those programs...calling in your daily food plan to a
food sponsor every day. But then, alot of those people were sort of
inappropriate overeater types who want to discuss weight lost, sizes,
inches, specific food, you know, that type of thing. So we sort of
weeded them out. Every so often a really new, really scared person
will show up, scared that if they give up their habits, they will get
fat. Boy I can relate to that. That's who EDA is for, people like us!

I'm just sounding off, I'm actually in a great deal of pain because
of the medical problems and all kinds of crazy thoughts are going
through my mind.
Allison

Hi-
As I have mentioned, if anyone needs to contact me re: information and
resources do not hesitate. I will do my best to help you. I want to
announce an upcoming treatment program called WISE (Women's Institute
for Sensible Eating) in Hollywood, FL. This is a brief overview about
the program which will launch at the end of Oct. for which I am the
Clinical Director. The program accepts most insurances and medicare.

About the Eating Disorder Program

The WISE (Women’s Institute for Sensible Eating) at Hollywood Pavilion
provides comprehensive intensive outpatient treatment to women
suffering from a variety of eating disorders and mental health issues
including bulimia, anorexia, compulsive overeating, EDNOS, and
exercise addiction. The program values principles of increasing
vitality of whole person (mind, body, and spirit) to help individuals
renew, restore, and reclaim happier and healthier lives.

Since our program is uniquely affiliated with a variety of other
treatment specialties, individuals suffering with eating disorders
accompanied by other mental health complications such as substance
abuse and trauma will find a holistic and refreshing multidisciplinary
approach to healing designed to facilitate the recovery process.

The WISE program offers a comprehensive schedule of group based
education and psychotherapy designed to increase awareness of the
eating disorder and related symptoms, and to provide tools for mental,
physical, and emotional conditioning towards improving quality of
life.  The program values cultivating a respectful and hopeful
atmosphere for recovery.

All women in the program attend groups a minimum of three days per
week. Additionally participants are under the ongoing care of a
program psychiatrist, nutritionist/physical wellness consultant, and
are closely monitored by our committed treatment team throughout
various stages of their recovery.

Sincerely,

Lisa C. Palmer, LMFT, CHT, PhD Cand.
Clinical Director, WISE Program at Hollywood Pavilion

Founder, MyEDHelp.com
www.MyEDHelp.com

Renew Center of Florida (Private Practice)
Renew_Center@...
www.TheRenewCenter.com
954-907-3446

You want to eliminate the eating disorder, but aren't sure where to
start? You are not sure if you want to do recovery full-heartedly? The
eating disorder voice and the recovery voice are fighting?

How about evaluating the role of the eating disorder in your life from
a cost-benefit analysis?

Use the following questions to put the ED under a microscope so that
you can understand if it is actually benefiting you in a healthy way
that promotes life balance?

Instructions:
Divide a sheet of paper down the middle. On the left side, list the
costs of the eating disorder in your life. On the right side, list the
"benefits". Assign points to each side based on how significant or
important the costs and benefits are to you. Make sure the total
points for both sides adds up to 100. Remember to list such
consequences as physical problems, sleep difficulties, relationship
issues etc...Once you assign points to each side, which side wins? Do
the costs outweigh the benefits or vice versa?

Take care!

Lisa C. Palmer, LMFT, CHT, PhD Cand.
Renew Center of Florida, LLC
Renew_Center@...
www.TheRenewCenter.com
954-907-3446

I went and saw the doc yesterday about this torturous all over body
rash I've had for six mo. No exercise, no heat, no hot showers, no
going outside if possible. I guess I better turn into being an
author. That's ok too, because that is happening.

Did I turn you guys all off by sharing about a related health
problem? We had a good thing going with Ari, Erin, Melissa, et al,
and then no one signed on yesterday or today? Sorry If I scared you
off. I have alot of answers and a little bit of recovery, but
sometimes, I need feedback.

I found an outpatient 1 hour a week group for eating disorders. I'm
going to do that while I wait for the outpatient program starts that
I am going to be a part of. It's in South Florida, if any of you are
in the area, it's a place called Hollywood Pavilion, and they deal
with all sorts of things like trauma, d.i.d., depression, and now,
eating disorders.

What did you guys do for treatment?
I noticed two of the women were in Florida. You are invited to come
down to Hollywood Beach, to stay and do pal, wal, stuff on the beach
or I would meet you half way. Can we put a picture to these mails if
we want to?

I run a meeting of Eating Disorders Anonymous and last night no one
came. Boy did that make me feel like a loser! Maybe it will be better
next week. It started out busier, with alot of refugees from OA and
FAA, many burnt out on all the drill sargeant and strictness that
goes on with those programs...calling in your daily food plan to a
food sponsor every day. But then, alot of those people were sort of
inappropriate overeater types who want to discuss weight lost, sizes,
inches, specific food, you know, that type of thing. So we sort of
weeded them out. Every so often a really new, really scared person
will show up, scared that if they give up their habits, they will get
fat. Boy I can relate to that. That's who EDA is for, people like us!

I'm just sounding off, I'm actually in a great deal of pain because
of the medical problems and all kinds of crazy thoughts are going
through my mind.
Allison

My name is Allison. After 5 mo of treatment, I am back in my
overeating overexercise cycle, with walking and swimming. It's not
the exercise, but it's how I do it. I am making the best of a bad
situation, right now and am reaching out for support. Melissa, I am
so sad to hear about your mother. Dealing with palliative meds and no
real good diagnosis is actually something that I am used to, as over
my life I've had a few of them which totally stumped the doctors. But
I am a survivor, my best friends and my husband tells me, and when I
get mad, I get better information.





  I'm up at 3:00 with symptoms from my hives or something like that.
The biopsy says its two skin diseases interlinked. I'm manic
depressive, and when this disease showed up 6 mo ago, they took me
off of the best medicine I ever was on, a drug called Lamictal that
causes life-threatening rash. Since then, no one has been able to
tell me what this rash is!

  I have been on psych meds that cause other skin problems and weight
problems ever since. Indirectly, because of the meds I take for the
rash, I'm back on Seroquel. I was on seroquel for 6 years up until
last year. I thought I could probably get by without it. I did well
for a few months until my rash showed up. I was so happy to be off of
Seroqel (assume you will gain 20+, and be at risk for diabetes as
well when on this drug)

Then, ok, this is getting too complicated. The only way I was able to
keep my weight down on Seroquel from 2000-2006 which really increases
cravings and binge behavior, was to run and play tennis every day AND
take ephedra. I now have permanent heart damage.

  When I'm on Seroquel, it's a battle not to binge several times a
day. Yesterday, my dinner meal was a binge of sorts. I'm at a high
normal body weight now, and at 3am, actually considered being nice to
myself about myself...Am making the best of a bad situation. But
right now, I'm kind of whiny.

  And I am up right now because the itching just got so bad, even with
the palliative meds, which just keep making me have to take more
seroquel. So the binging gets worse.

I have an appointment with a new doctor  this morning at 8:00, and
next week have an appointment with the head of dermatology at a local
university.

Even if they said that the dermatitis was just nerves, at least I
could stop going to the doctors and work holistically, Ya know?

--- In MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com, "erincoakley" <erincoakley@...>
wrote:Help! as far as my brain, sometimes the elevator does not go all
the way up. This concept of doing one thing the way you want it is
totally over my head. Can someone explain it to me?
>
> Point well taken about "normal".
> But I know we can do 1 thing.  I love your idea about not canceling
> your appointment.  Good luck.
> I will send you some positve energy.
> I am going to go out to dinner and eat.  not just pass out my food
and
> move it around.
> Lets go for it.
>

--- In MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com, "Ari ..." <Soccerstar09@...>
wrote:
>
Hi everyone! Ok, about 12 step groups.. There is a new fellowship
called EDA. It is completely UNLIKE OA, FA, AND FAA, which also are
good and have their place. EDA's motto is "It's not about the
Food," "It's not about the Weight." It's about the feelings. EDA has
a home page, there are phone meetings, there are online meetings and
there are meetings in many cities in our country. OA is also good,
but stresses food and weight, as do FA and FAA (food addicts
anonymous)

OA has a real positive 'cheerleady' vibe to it. Every OA group is
different, though. EDA can address the needs of anorexia and bulimia
and all EDNOS's in between.

Also, have you looked at the MyEdhelp.com website? It has a national
meeting list, and I have a blog called 'Vs.' on that site with
articles about body image, the scale and crap like that that gets to
us.
Also, the NEDA website is very good, and you might really want to go
n the ANAD website.
I need to go read more of your postings.
allison

> Melissa,
>
> Glad I'm on track though I do have to say giving advice is always
much
> easier for me then taking it, lol. I also think that not signing up
for the
> training sounds like a wise idea right now, good job=)
>
> I had also signed up at an all womens gym and made my cousin go
with me so I
> would have someone to keep me accountable and not let me overdo it.
> Unfortunately with our schedules it hasn't really worked out and we
haven't
> been going BUT I have also done well and only gone a couple times
without
> her.
>
> I'm sorry to hear about your Mom's cancer. I know how rough it can
be to
> deal with your Mom being  unwell. My Mom was in the hospital for 4
months
> before she passed away, long story about what happened if you're
interested
> probably it's easier if ya read my blog
(http://momsmyangel.blogspot.com/).
>
> No I've never tried OA, never been real sure of the whole 12 step
thing.
>
> How far from where do I live?  OK, sorry I'm getting tired, gotta
get to
> bed. TTYL
>
> Ari
>
>
> >From: Melissa Solomonov <msolomonov2@...>
> >Reply-To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
> >To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [MyEDHelpSupport] Re: Hi
> >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi Ari
> >
> >
> >   Thanks so so much for the support.  You sound really on track.
Its hard
> >for me to accept it.  I have not signed up for the training.  I
think I
> >just decided not to.
> >
> >   I did sign up to go an all womens gym.  The energy in the gym
felt very
> >nice and calm.  No competition among men.
> >
> >
> >   I so understand the mother thing.  I am so sorry their is no
one in your
> >family who understands about ED and relapse. My mother fights me
on it all
> >the time.  She says, "why dont you go see a nutritionist and they
can help
> >with the weight"  I said "mom its not about the weight"  She
doesn't get
> >it.
> >
> >   She also has a problem herself and kind of admits it.  She
always looks
> >good on the outside and always feel ashamed.  Even at my thinner
side I was
> >ashamed.  My mother also has cancer and its really rough for me.
> >
> >
> >   Have you ever gone to OA the twelve step program.  It has
really helped
> >me a lot.  I am going to look at some therapists and I will check
out that
> >link.
> >
> >   How far do you live.?
> >
> >   I am going to committ tonight to not eat in the middle of the
night.
> >
> >   Peace and Blessings
> >
> >
> >   melissa
> >
> >"Ari ..." <Soccerstar09@...> wrote:
> >   Hi Melissa,
> >
> >Well, don't worry about babbling on my account I tend to babble
alot, lol.
> >Oh how I can relate to the distorted eyes off ED. I can also
relate to not
> >having alot of support and feeling alone here (even though I have
lived
> >here
> >for about 5 years the only friends I have are my boyfriend, my
cousin and a
> >few acquaintances). I am originally from Maine and the first time
I sought
> >out treatment and recovery it was all based in Maine. So my whole
support
> >system was based there. I never bothered to establish anything
here in
> >Florida as I felt I was far enough along on the road to recovery
and for
> >awhile I was.
> >
> >After my Mom got over the initial blaming herself, telling me how
selfish
> >my
> >disease was, etc. She began to research ED's and what she
could/couldn't do
> >and was a big support as well. She also came to admit that she
herself had
> >an ED it was just the opposite of mine, she was a compulsive
overeater. But
> >with her gone I am stuck with a family who doesn't understand my
ED and who
> >has not caught on that I am relapsing (other then my cousin and
best friend
> >Cheri) and who consequently I have not confided in because it
would only
> >make matters worse.
> >
> >One thing that I have found very helpful is that I contacted ANAD
> >(anad.org)
> >and they found the closest support group to my area. I looked and
I see
> >they
> >have at least one group in the Jacksonville area so if you're
interested
> >that is a good resource.
> >
> >I think that finding a therapist locally would be a good idea,
even if it
> >is
> >not permanent at least it is a start and they may even be able to
help you
> >find someone when you move.
> >
> >I also have to add that I don't think training would be a very
good idea
> >right now. Your question was if you could do this in a healthy way
with
> >support but you've already mentioned that you don't have a support
system
> >in
> >place here. I challenge you to look at rather it is your mind or
the ED
> >that
> >is saying that training would be your therapy. OK well I've
probably
> >rambeled on long enough and may be way off base, TTYL.
> >
> >Ari
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Melissa Solomonov, BSW & CMT
> >Jacksonville, Florida
> >
> >904 683-1897
> >
> >
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Melissa,

Glad I'm on track though I do have to say giving advice is always much
easier for me then taking it, lol. I also think that not signing up for the
training sounds like a wise idea right now, good job=)

I had also signed up at an all womens gym and made my cousin go with me so I
would have someone to keep me accountable and not let me overdo it.
Unfortunately with our schedules it hasn't really worked out and we haven't
been going BUT I have also done well and only gone a couple times without
her.

I'm sorry to hear about your Mom's cancer. I know how rough it can be to
deal with your Mom being  unwell. My Mom was in the hospital for 4 months
before she passed away, long story about what happened if you're interested
probably it's easier if ya read my blog (http://momsmyangel.blogspot.com/).

No I've never tried OA, never been real sure of the whole 12 step thing.

How far from where do I live?  OK, sorry I'm getting tired, gotta get to
bed. TTYL

Ari


>From: Melissa Solomonov <msolomonov2@...>
>Reply-To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
>To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [MyEDHelpSupport] Re: Hi
>Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi Ari
>
>
>   Thanks so so much for the support.  You sound really on track.  Its hard
>for me to accept it.  I have not signed up for the training.  I think I
>just decided not to.
>
>   I did sign up to go an all womens gym.  The energy in the gym felt very
>nice and calm.  No competition among men.
>
>
>   I so understand the mother thing.  I am so sorry their is no one in your
>family who understands about ED and relapse. My mother fights me on it all
>the time.  She says, "why dont you go see a nutritionist and they can help
>with the weight"  I said "mom its not about the weight"  She doesn't get
>it.
>
>   She also has a problem herself and kind of admits it.  She always looks
>good on the outside and always feel ashamed.  Even at my thinner side I was
>ashamed.  My mother also has cancer and its really rough for me.
>
>
>   Have you ever gone to OA the twelve step program.  It has really helped
>me a lot.  I am going to look at some therapists and I will check out that
>link.
>
>   How far do you live.?
>
>   I am going to committ tonight to not eat in the middle of the night.
>
>   Peace and Blessings
>
>
>   melissa
>
>"Ari ..." <Soccerstar09@...> wrote:
>   Hi Melissa,
>
>Well, don't worry about babbling on my account I tend to babble alot, lol.
>Oh how I can relate to the distorted eyes off ED. I can also relate to not
>having alot of support and feeling alone here (even though I have lived
>here
>for about 5 years the only friends I have are my boyfriend, my cousin and a
>few acquaintances). I am originally from Maine and the first time I sought
>out treatment and recovery it was all based in Maine. So my whole support
>system was based there. I never bothered to establish anything here in
>Florida as I felt I was far enough along on the road to recovery and for
>awhile I was.
>
>After my Mom got over the initial blaming herself, telling me how selfish
>my
>disease was, etc. She began to research ED's and what she could/couldn't do
>and was a big support as well. She also came to admit that she herself had
>an ED it was just the opposite of mine, she was a compulsive overeater. But
>with her gone I am stuck with a family who doesn't understand my ED and who
>has not caught on that I am relapsing (other then my cousin and best friend
>Cheri) and who consequently I have not confided in because it would only
>make matters worse.
>
>One thing that I have found very helpful is that I contacted ANAD
>(anad.org)
>and they found the closest support group to my area. I looked and I see
>they
>have at least one group in the Jacksonville area so if you're interested
>that is a good resource.
>
>I think that finding a therapist locally would be a good idea, even if it
>is
>not permanent at least it is a start and they may even be able to help you
>find someone when you move.
>
>I also have to add that I don't think training would be a very good idea
>right now. Your question was if you could do this in a healthy way with
>support but you've already mentioned that you don't have a support system
>in
>place here. I challenge you to look at rather it is your mind or the ED
>that
>is saying that training would be your therapy. OK well I've probably
>rambeled on long enough and may be way off base, TTYL.
>
>Ari
>
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>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Melissa Solomonov, BSW & CMT
>Jacksonville, Florida
>
>904 683-1897
>
>
>---------------------------------
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Hi Melissa,

Well, don't worry about babbling on my account I tend to babble alot, lol.
Oh how I can relate to the distorted eyes off ED. I can also relate to not
having alot of support and feeling alone here (even though I have lived here
for about 5 years the only friends I have are my boyfriend, my cousin and a
few acquaintances). I am originally from Maine and the first time I sought
out treatment and recovery it was all based in Maine. So my whole support
system was based there. I never bothered to establish anything here in
Florida as I felt I was far enough along on the road to recovery and for
awhile I was.

After my Mom got over the initial blaming herself, telling me how selfish my
disease was, etc. She began to research ED's and what she could/couldn't do
and was a big support as well. She also came to admit that she herself had
an ED it was just the opposite of mine, she was a compulsive overeater. But
with her gone I am stuck with a family who doesn't understand my ED and who
has not caught on that I am relapsing (other then my cousin and best friend
Cheri) and who consequently I have not confided in because it would only
make matters worse.

One thing that I have found very helpful is that I contacted ANAD (anad.org)
and they found the closest support group to my area. I looked and I see they
have at least one group in the Jacksonville area so if you're interested
that is a good resource.

I think that finding a therapist locally would be a good idea, even if it is
not permanent at least it is a start and they may even be able to help you
find someone when you move.

I also have to add that I don't think training would be a very good idea
right now. Your question was if you could do this in a healthy way with
support but you've already mentioned that you don't have a support system in
place here. I challenge you to look at rather it is your mind or the ED that
is saying that training would be your therapy. OK well I've probably
rambeled on long enough and may be way off base, TTYL.

Ari

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Melissa Solomonov, BSW & CMT
Jacksonville, Florida

904 683-1897

Point well taken about "normal".
But I know we can do 1 thing.  I love your idea about not canceling
your appointment.  Good luck.
I will send you some positve energy.
I am going to go out to dinner and eat.  not just pass out my food and
move it around.
Lets go for it.

Hi Melissa,

Well, don't worry about babbling on my account I tend to babble alot, lol.
Oh how I can relate to the distorted eyes off ED. I can also relate to not
having alot of support and feeling alone here (even though I have lived here
for about 5 years the only friends I have are my boyfriend, my cousin and a
few acquaintances). I am originally from Maine and the first time I sought
out treatment and recovery it was all based in Maine. So my whole support
system was based there. I never bothered to establish anything here in
Florida as I felt I was far enough along on the road to recovery and for
awhile I was.

After my Mom got over the initial blaming herself, telling me how selfish my
disease was, etc. She began to research ED's and what she could/couldn't do
and was a big support as well. She also came to admit that she herself had
an ED it was just the opposite of mine, she was a compulsive overeater. But
with her gone I am stuck with a family who doesn't understand my ED and who
has not caught on that I am relapsing (other then my cousin and best friend
Cheri) and who consequently I have not confided in because it would only
make matters worse.

One thing that I have found very helpful is that I contacted ANAD (anad.org)
and they found the closest support group to my area. I looked and I see they
have at least one group in the Jacksonville area so if you're interested
that is a good resource.

I think that finding a therapist locally would be a good idea, even if it is
not permanent at least it is a start and they may even be able to help you
find someone when you move.

I also have to add that I don't think training would be a very good idea
right now. Your question was if you could do this in a healthy way with
support but you've already mentioned that you don't have a support system in
place here. I challenge you to look at rather it is your mind or the ED that
is saying that training would be your therapy. OK well I've probably
rambeled on long enough and may be way off base, TTYL.

Ari

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Hmmm, good challenge Erin. Although I have to admit that at this point I am
a bit baffled at what one might even consider "normal."

I guess it would probably be to eat three meals a day and not purge. I
already know that's not going to happen, right now I can barely manage one
without purging.

I do have an appointment with my new therapist (I've only seen her once)
tomorrow that I am trying to not talk myself out of going to. So I guess
that will be one positive thing I'll try to do tomorrow, not cancel my
appointment. I'll check back in tomorrow with anything else "normal" I am
able to do.

Ari

>From: "erincoakley" <erincoakley@...>
>Reply-To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
>To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [MyEDHelpSupport] NORMAL
>Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:28:24 -0000
>
>Hey all-
>Just imagine...  What does it mean for you?  Not how you live on
>a "bad" day, but how you want it.
>Lets all try it.  I dare us all.  Lets all do it today.  I dare
>myself.  So its night, and I am going to try tomorrow.  Even if you
>can just do one thing.  Lets just try it.  Maybe on thing, maybe a
>whole lot of things.  Just one day.  Lets do it.  I know we all can.
>Okay GOOD LUCK ALL!  I'll let ya know what I do.
>

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Hey all-
Just imagine...  What does it mean for you?  Not how you live on
a "bad" day, but how you want it.
Lets all try it.  I dare us all.  Lets all do it today.  I dare
myself.  So its night, and I am going to try tomorrow.  Even if you
can just do one thing.  Lets just try it.  Maybe on thing, maybe a
whole lot of things.  Just one day.  Lets do it.  I know we all can.
Okay GOOD LUCK ALL!  I'll let ya know what I do.

Hi-
I'm glad that people are starting to write on this board and get to
know each other! Sometimes it takes awhile for good things to get
going! I always say the "strength of the measure is the end of the
result". I am committed to helping people who want recovery gain
wellness, and vitality, so please don't hesitate to contact me for
recovery help, referrals, and resources. I will do whatever I can to
help those who want it. I can be reached at 954-907-3446. It's nice to
see that there is a strong online support group growing here. You all
are making a difference for each other by sharing your stories, and
for all those who visit this board. Thank you for writing!

Lisa C. Palmer, LMFT, CHT, PhD Cand
The Renew Center of Florida, LLC
954-907-3446

Erin
Hey. I live in HOllywood. How far down in Miami do you live. Do you
work? There are some meetings I can turn you on to in South Broward
and I even have a meeting that I facilitate at Rebel's Drop In in
Hollywood on Wednesday nights at 5:30. I might change the meeting
time to later so more people can come.

I really needed to see a posting like yours today. I also am a
running addict. I have been in recovery for 5 months. That does not
mean I have never run in those five months, but that approach might
have been advisable. I stopped for 30 days, started again, kinda
overdid it, and stopped for 10, then stopped for 44 days straight,
went back to twice a week, and overdid it AGAIN! Initially, I WAS
running on an injury. My injury has gotten alot better, but still not
100%, and right now I realize that I have to completely STOP all over
again, and stay stopped for several months to even have a shot at
doing any other sports again. My joints need to be silent of that
impact in order to heal. This is what my internal voice tells me.

What I used to do was play tennis twice, 3 hours, and then go home
and run for an hour and a half. That way, I could experience the joy
of not having much of an appetite, and do things other than eat the
despised food that torments me so much. I'm EDNOS, an exercise
bulimic with an anorexic mindset. (until that wore off mid afternoon)
then I could use all of that calorie burning work to justify having
like 6 yogurts after dinner, or 5 granola bars. I never lost weight.
I found out through stopping those few times that I do better with
binge eating if I don't exercise at all. Of course, that is not the
final goal, but to exercise moderately.

Why don't you and I become buddies online? My email is
biszanta@hotmail.com. Also, have you looked at the site MyEdHelp.com?
I have a blog on there called 'VS.' that has another email for me. I
would love to have you as a buddy, and I would love to tell you more
about the treatment options I chose here locally and am still
involved with. Do you work? What do you think about treatment? Would
you be open to looking at an outpatient program in Hollywood? That's
what I did, and am still looking at doing more of.
Allison B.
I

Hi Allison, oops, forgot to mention that I'm another Floridian=) However I
live on the opposite coast in Hudson. I definitely understand the
overexercising. Before I got into recovery last time I would run 10 or more
miles a day plus do crunches until I couldn't do them anymore. This time I
haven't sunk that far down, I exercise but only in moderation, I guess the
heat here in lovely Florida helps keep that at bay.

The first time I went into recovery was not so much a personal choice, even
though I was 18 my mother forced me into it, I was (and still am)a people
pleaser and so I did what she wanted. I joined a support group went to a
therapist etc. At first I was doing it only to placate her but as a few more
months went on I began to realize I really was sick and did have a problem
that I needed help for. Maybe I gave up on therapy a bit to soon because
looking back I realize maybe I wasn't as "recoverED" as I like to think.
Externally I was doing good, gaining weight eating and only purging
occasionally. And even though I had moments I could look in the mirror and
like what I saw the ED voice never truly went away. It was much tamer and I
could recognize that it was just ED talking but it never fully stopped.

Right now I waiver alot between being able to recognize I need help and then
totally dismissing it and telling myself I am fine. Except realistically I
know the latter is just ED telling me that. I guess what really scares me is
if I CAN really do it? I know I need to find healthier coping mechanisms but
I have no idea right now what those would be. OOOPS, my nephew is up from
hisnap. I'llwrite more later.

Ari


>From: "allisonbiszantz" <biszanta@...>
>Reply-To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
>To: MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [MyEDHelpSupport] Re: Hi
>Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:37:01 -0000
>
>Ari, Hi! What part of country are you in? My name is Allison, and I
>have exercise bulimia and an anorexic mindset. I am now at the point
>of recognizing that my latest attempts to exercise have been rather
>over doing it, and to stop again totally and just walk and so forth.
>Recovery is totally worth it. YOu get to have a 'life' again, when
>you are able to free yourself from the noise of the disorder, which
>can be so very loud. How did you initially get into recovery? I had
>more recovery than I do right now, but I have some really irritating
>health problems that are setting me back a little. So, I have to go
>sort of back to the drawing board. I have to try harder.
>Allison
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-- In MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com, "Ari ..." <Soccerstar09@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > Hi, my name is Ariane (mostly go by Ari online though). I joined
>this site a
> > few weeks ago and just wanted to introduce myself. I am
>anorexic/bulimic, I
> > had been recoverED for about 4 years and then my Mom passed away.
>After
> > about 6 months I found myself turning back to my old coping
>mechanism of
> > anorexia and purging. I have been in a downward spiral for the last
>year or
> > so and am currently beginning the process of recovery again. I
>sought out a
> > support group several months ago and have just recently started
>seeing a
> > therapist again. The past few weeks I have been doing OK ed-wise
>but am
> > still struggling with the is recovery worth it thoughts. Even
>though I know
> > recovery is possible because I have done it before I am still
>struggling
> > about rather or not I can do this, or want to.  Well that's just a
>lil about
> > me and my story. I have to get going but will write more later.
> >
> > Ari
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > A place for moms to take a break!
> > http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us
> >
>
>

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Ari, Hi! What part of country are you in? My name is Allison, and I
have exercise bulimia and an anorexic mindset. I am now at the point
of recognizing that my latest attempts to exercise have been rather
over doing it, and to stop again totally and just walk and so forth.
Recovery is totally worth it. YOu get to have a 'life' again, when
you are able to free yourself from the noise of the disorder, which
can be so very loud. How did you initially get into recovery? I had
more recovery than I do right now, but I have some really irritating
health problems that are setting me back a little. So, I have to go
sort of back to the drawing board. I have to try harder.
Allison












-- In MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com, "Ari ..." <Soccerstar09@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, my name is Ariane (mostly go by Ari online though). I joined
this site a
> few weeks ago and just wanted to introduce myself. I am
anorexic/bulimic, I
> had been recoverED for about 4 years and then my Mom passed away.
After
> about 6 months I found myself turning back to my old coping
mechanism of
> anorexia and purging. I have been in a downward spiral for the last
year or
> so and am currently beginning the process of recovery again. I
sought out a
> support group several months ago and have just recently started
seeing a
> therapist again. The past few weeks I have been doing OK ed-wise
but am
> still struggling with the is recovery worth it thoughts. Even
though I know
> recovery is possible because I have done it before I am still
struggling
> about rather or not I can do this, or want to.  Well that's just a
lil about
> me and my story. I have to get going but will write more later.
>
> Ari
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> A place for moms to take a break!
> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us
>

Erin
Hey. I live in HOllywood. How far down in Miami do you live. Do you
work? There are some meetings I can turn you on to in South Broward
and I even have a meeting that I facilitate at Rebel's Drop In in
Hollywood on Wednesday nights at 5:30. I might change the meeting
time to later so more people can come.

  I really needed to see a posting like yours today. I also am a
running addict. I have been in recovery for 5 months. That does not
mean I have never run in those five months, but that approach might
have been advisable. I stopped for 30 days, started again, kinda
overdid it, and stopped for 10, then stopped for 44 days straight,
went back to twice a week, and overdid it AGAIN! Initially, I WAS
running on an injury. My injury has gotten alot better, but still not
100%, and right now I realize that I have to completely STOP all over
again, and stay stopped for several months to even have a shot at
doing any other sports again. My joints need to be silent of that
impact in order to heal. This is what my internal voice tells me.

What I used to do was play tennis twice, 3 hours, and then go home
and run for an hour and a half. That way, I could experience the joy
of not having much of an appetite, and do things other than eat the
despised food that torments me so much. I'm EDNOS, an exercise
bulimic with an anorexic mindset. (until that wore off mid afternoon)
then I could use all of that calorie burning work to justify having
like 6 yogurts after dinner, or 5 granola bars. I never lost weight.
I found out through stopping those few times that I do better with
binge eating if I don't exercise at all. Of course, that is not the
final goal, but to exercise moderately.

Why don't you and I become buddies online? My email is
biszanta@.... Also, have you looked at the site MyEdHelp.com?
I have a blog on there called 'VS.' that has another email for me. I
would love to have you as a buddy, and I would love to tell you more
about the treatment options I chose here locally and am still
involved with. Do you work? What do you think about treatment? Would
you be open to looking at an outpatient program in Hollywood? That's
what I did, and am still looking at doing more of.
Allison B.
  I

Hi, my name is Ariane (mostly go by Ari online though). I joined this site a
few weeks ago and just wanted to introduce myself. I am anorexic/bulimic, I
had been recoverED for about 4 years and then my Mom passed away. After
about 6 months I found myself turning back to my old coping mechanism of
anorexia and purging. I have been in a downward spiral for the last year or
so and am currently beginning the process of recovery again. I sought out a
support group several months ago and have just recently started seeing a
therapist again. The past few weeks I have been doing OK ed-wise but am
still struggling with the is recovery worth it thoughts. Even though I know
recovery is possible because I have done it before I am still struggling
about rather or not I can do this, or want to.  Well that's just a lil about
me and my story. I have to get going but will write more later.

Ari

_________________________________________________________________
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http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

Hi I am new to this site and just beginning my recovery.  I am an
exercise addict.  Long story short, there was a family intervention
and I realized I am wasting my life running...literally.  Choosing
my addiction over my husband and probably a future family due to
poor health.  I finally have the desire to find a whole life.  Does
anyone have any advice.  I live in Miami..


--- In MyEDHelpSupport@yahoogroups.com, "allisonbiszantz"
<biszanta@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, My name is Allison Biszantz and I am in recovery from exercise
> bulimia. I haven't binged in months. I am learning to exercise
> moderately. It's all good. finally, I have other things in my life
> besides food, exercise (which was taking up 3-5 hours a day) and
> obsession with weight. I have even given up the scale, which was
the
> last thing to go.
>
> This concept of 'not running away from Good things is very good to
hear
> about. All we have to do is say 'no' to the things that are
harmful,
> and for the things that are difficult, focus on moving towards and
> moving through. I even use that technique with physical
discomfort..to
> try to 'lean into it.'  It's easy to forget and find onesself
running
> away from it all, to go into total avoidance mode.
> Anyway, just wanted to say hello and hope to hear back from you.
> Have a wonderful day out there...wherever you are on your journey
> through recovery.
>
> Allison Biszantz
> Hollywood, Florida.
>

When I wake up in the morning, I know that I'm going to accomplish and
enjoy twice as much as I did when 'Mr Noise' (my ED voice) had control
of me. I was always trying to figure out when I could 'burn a calorie
or 1200,' planning my next binge, or actually purging through exercise.
No more. I may still have troubling thoughts about how I'm 'losing it,'
but that's just the ED voice looking for any way in.
Ok, Cya. Just checking in this morning.
allison

Great that you are visiting. A few months ago I was looking at my
injuries and realized I was exercise bulimic. I got into outpatient
treatment in a dual diagnosis program. Even though it wasn't ED
specific, I had attention from someone in the field who was very,
very good. But not all is always well. Im not always close to
recovery. I once heard it explained that we need to stay in the
center of recovery to keep a safe, comfortable place in. Today I
found myself kinda outside the circle. Let me explain.

Today, I found myself very high strung. Do you know what? The closer
I stay in my feelings, the safer I actually am. The healthier I
actually am. I went to make my dad a CD for his birthday, and in
picking music that I knew he would like, rather than ....you know,
grab Neil Young's 'the needle and the damage done' (I'm an old
druggie, too) and MAKE it MAKE sense to HIM, which I am NOT doing, I
actually cried. Just in making him a nice cd for his birthday. Just
in being considerate and not self centered for once in my life.
Whatever that's about, it needs to be felt, I think. How out of touch
am I about my feelings about family?

  I'm going to make him another CD now. There are more songs that he
would like. LIke this one by Tim McGraw about having no money, but
livin' a big lifestyle. Good god.  If you only knew how much I hate
country music! Sorry if that offends you. Allison

Hi, My name is Allison Biszantz and I am in recovery from exercise
bulimia. I haven't binged in months. I am learning to exercise
moderately. It's all good. finally, I have other things in my life
besides food, exercise (which was taking up 3-5 hours a day) and
obsession with weight. I have even given up the scale, which was the
last thing to go.

This concept of 'not running away from Good things is very good to hear
about. All we have to do is say 'no' to the things that are harmful,
and for the things that are difficult, focus on moving towards and
moving through. I even use that technique with physical discomfort..to
try to 'lean into it.'  It's easy to forget and find onesself running
away from it all, to go into total avoidance mode.
Anyway, just wanted to say hello and hope to hear back from you.
Have a wonderful day out there...wherever you are on your journey
through recovery.

Allison Biszantz
Hollywood, Florida.

It has been written that, "...all the blessings in the world will
start to chase you."

So many people who find themselves consistently running away from
life, wonder how come good luck doesn't happen to them. That's often
because the people who run are so involved in the practice of running
that they aren't consciously aware that they are running away from
good things too at the same time they are running away from bad things.

In living in harmony with the spiritual universe we find that
blessings show their presence more quickly. Blessings happen when
skillful thinking meets skillful living.

It's okay to run from things that are bad, but don't run from good
things in the meantime. Recognize when good things are chasing you,
and reach out to grab opportunities for growth and expression. Instead
of simply running away from....Ask yourself what you are running towards.


Affirmation: I welcome harmony in my life.

Lisa C. Palmer, LMFT, CHT, PhD Cand.
Renew Center of Florida
www.TheRenewCenter.com
Renew_Center@...

Do you find it difficult to say "no" so you keep saying "yes"?
Do you find it difficult to hear praise?
Do you deny your worth? Many women do. They resist love. They prefer
to be the caregivers instead of receiving care, or caring for themselves.
Shame or failure holds some women back from being intimate, and fear
and guilt can gnaw at one's self-esteem.

Today, decide the course YOU want to take, which may not be the course
that rides with the tide of things that continue to be unhealthy for
you and your life. Say a firm "no" to the things that harm you, and
begin to welcome "yes" to things that self-nurture and caress your soul.

Welcome recovery. Welcome expression of what YOU want and need. Listen
to your deep inner desires and needs. Say "yes" to vitality and
expression of your infinite potential. Open your heart and mind,
allowing discomfort to wash over your fears and fade away in the sand
of your insecurities. Now is the time to declare what you need and
want and to say "yes" to all things that are good. All things that you
deserve. Renew your soul, give space to "yes" to all that is healthy
and healing.

Affirmation: I welcome comfort into my life to express my needs.

Lisa C. Palmer, LMFT, CHT, PhD Cand.
Renew Center of Florida
Renew_Center@...
www.TheRenewCenter.com

Going Up! 7 Pointers to Lift a Bad Mood
Posted by Dr. Maoshing Ni
on Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 10:16 pm PDT
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No one can live a long and healthy life without the will to go on;
sometimes mood swings can make us feel that life is too much for us.

A bad mood not only gives you a gloomy outlook, it also lowers your
immune function, leading the way to illness. Here are some suggestions
to lift your mood, your spirit, and your health.

1. A Laughing Matter
"Laugh Therapy," pioneered by Norman Cousins, has turned out to have
real substance. Research has discovered that laughter and joy boost
immune functions, especially the production of the natural killer
cells that help defend the body from illness and cancer.

Laughter also increases the release of endorphins - compounds that
give you a sense of well-being  - in your brain. Without a doubt,
joyful people liver longer and healthier lives. So read your favorite
comics, watch your favorite comedies, and laugh it up!

2. Amino Acid for Restored Mindset
When an imbalance or deficiency is creating a bad mood, the Europeans
use supplements of a natural compound found in human cells to regulate
mood and restore a healthy mindset. SAMe (S-adenosyl-L-methionine) is
produced from methionine, an amino acid that plays a role in the
production of uplifting neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine.

One study indicated that SAMe worked on patients who had unsuccessful
results with conventional antidepressants. To get a boost from SAMe,
take a supplement combining it with vitamins B6 and B12.

3. Hands-On Healing
Human touch increases the production of endorphins, growth hormone,
and DHEA, all of which lengthen your life span and lower the negative
impact of stress. Studies have found that patients who are regularly
touched recover faster than those who are not touched. So give someone
a hug and feel both of your moods improve.

4. Boost Your "Youth Hormones"
You don't need pills to flood your body with a rejuvenating flood of
growth hormones. Research has found that doing squats and leg presses
will greatly increase your natural production of the "youth hormone".
Increased growth hormone translates to an elevated mood, among other
physical benefits. Keep it up with weight training, knee bends,
push-ups, and rowing.

5. Take a Bracing Breath
Breathing correctly is important for dispelling the toxins and wastes
from your body; in fact, it is estimated that we expel only about 30
percent of toxins in our bodies through the bowels and bladder-the
rest is all respiratory. Breathing is also a great way to clear your
mind, boost your energy, and improve your mood. Practice deep, slow,
rhythmic, breathing daily with mind-body disciplines such as tai chi,
yoga, qigong, and meditation.

6. Smell the Joy
Research has shown that smell has a definite impact on our bodies and
minds. When you stimulate the olfactory nerves inside your nose, you
activate the limbic system of your brain, which is associated with
moods and memory. This concept is instrumental to aromatherapy, a
natural  health tradition that makes use of the healing powers of
plants with strong scents.

Aromatherapy recommends treating depression with jasmine, eucalyptus
for exhilaration, and grapefruit to increase alertness and joy. Just
put a dab of the essential oils from these plants on your temples,
back of your neck, or acupressure points. Another option? Boil the
herb in water and inhale the steam through your nose.

7. Feel Fine with Flowers
There is a reason that flowers are the traditional get-well gesture.
Colorful flowers have a powerful influence on moods; they can uplift a
patient's mood and even combat stress. One study found that during a
five-minute typing assignment, people sitting next to a flowering
bouquet were more relaxed than those who sat near foliage-only plants.

I hope these tips help the good feelings flow! I invite you to visit
often and share your own personal health and longevity tips with me.

May you live long, live strong, and live happy!

Hi, my name is Allison.
I'm in recovery from Exercise Bulimia. I live in South Florida. There's
alot of sunshine here; reminding me of my beach volleyball career in my
20's which was so long ago. I'm in my 40's now. It's all good. I like
recovery. I don't see recovery as a drowning sparrow with half a chance
at life, but a verdant, blooming garden. At one time It was a out-of-
control jungle, (my disease was) where I had no chance. But I stand a
good chance today, helped along by EDA, my friends, family, therapist
and a wonderful out-patient addictions/dual diagnosis program, Yes, I
won the triple crown, also an addict and bipolar. So that the hell, you
only live once. Anyone out there?
AllisonBiszantz

It is with great pleasure that we announce the establishment of this
online support group for all those suffering with an eating
disorder!  Chances are if you signed up for this group, you have
already taken a very simple step toward recovery. But, while online
support is important, it is essential to seek the help of qualified
professionals who dedicate their life to the field. (Check out the
www.MyEDHelp.com treatment finder and resources).

A FEW THOUGHTS ABOUT THE FORUM and LIVING VITALLY
Let this be a forum to express our needs, desires, and spirituality
freely. So often the eating disorder infiltrates our thinking,
creates emotional pollution, and obstructs us from vitality and
authentic expression. Healing is about reclaiming our hearts and our
lives. It begins with the life force within us to move toward
recovery, instead of away from it. It begins with a desire for
enlightenment, consciousness, and a sense of completion.

We are all in the process of creating and re-creating ourselves, and
their is a marvelous humility involved in this pursuit. To find this
we must encourage simplicity of thought and directness of action in
all parts of our lives; a focused and sincere heart; and a desire for
wisdom and wellness. On this journey to our own light we must
question our behaviors, habits, attachments, language, relationships,
values, spirituality, energy, knowledge...We must question our
relationship to the universe and the thinking patterns that keep us
stuck, as well as the ones that propel us towards skillful actions.

On this journey to vitality, there is no room for habits that
restrict rejuvenation. We must all learn the art of balance, and how
to sow the seeds of wellness. We must become WISE about vital
activities that include food and diet, behavior, work and career, our
inner world, our spiritual needs and beliefs, our generosity and
compassion, our mental discipline, happiness, and sharing, giving,
and receiving.

We must learn to let go of negative feelings and past traumas with
kindness so that we can relate to our bodies in a new and loving way,
and learn to look beyond the concept that our "bodies are our
identities". No, you are much more than that, much more than you have
ever been told you were, and much more than you might ever be told
you are. You already are a storehouse of vitality and infinite
potential, you were born with an infinate amount. But, relational and
life obstructions have gotten in the way. The key is to improve the
quality of your vital forces making them stronger and more durable,
and it begins with learning the keys of self-respect and balance. Not
only does this typically improve and restore vitality, it facilitates
the flow of happiness and allows you to become the master of your own
enlightenment!

What you need are tools, and assistance from qualified professionals
who speak to your soul and you can listen and integrate. They can
serve as a "gps" system to your storehouse of vitality and wellness.
You need a direction...a starting point, and a goal for something
bigger than weight, bigger than the absence of an eating disorder,
you need the presence and desire of something more. This is the key
to life...Please enjoy our group and welcome!!!

Sincerely,
Lisa C. Palmer, LMFT, CHT, PhD Cand.
MyEDHelp  www.MyEDHelp.com
The Renew Center of Florida   www.TheRenewCenter.com