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8921
Many countries don't fortify anything, which is why goiter is so rampant. Humans seem to NEED to live on the coast, or import seaweed, or they get goiter...
Heather Twist
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May 1, 2008
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Heather, ... Like I said, in India the lit reviews in papers, or at least the one I read, note that they DO fortify iodine and nevertheless there is a residual...
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... Thanks! Michael -- "And true manhood is shown not in the choice of a celibate life. On the contrary, the prize in the contest of men is won by him who has ...
Michael
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May 1, 2008
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If milk has been sterilized and then NOT innoculated, pretty much *anything* could be growing in there. If it was mine I'd maybe boil it again and feed it to...
Heather Twist
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May 3, 2008
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On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Chris Masterjohn ... They suggest all kinds of things in that event, including too MUCH iodine. And they ignore the effects of...
Heather Twist
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Heather, I have read your links and points in this discussion with great interest. You are so rational (on lots of topics) and your logic always resonates with...
Millie Krejci
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May 3, 2008
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Millie, ... Well of course there are other things that affect goiter besides crucifers. I think that logic resonates with everyone. Chris...
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May 3, 2008
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Heather, ... I really don't understand why you are trying to combat the thoroughly proven goitrogenic effect of crucifers. In this particular paper I'm...
Chris Masterjohn
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May 3, 2008
7:46 pm
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... Perhaps because those of us who like them have a lot of evidence to the contrary? I'm not sure that the studies you post are the last word on the ...
SeaDruid
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May 4, 2008
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... To the contrary of what? It is well established that crucifers contain goitrogens that interfere with iodine uptake in the thyroid, and that they increase...
Chris Masterjohn
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May 4, 2008
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On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Chris Masterjohn ... I think what I'm reacting to is that when someone says something like "crucifers are goitrogenic" it...
Heather Twist
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May 4, 2008
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Heather, ... Well ok, but this thread started when someone posted the article I had written for Wise Traditions, and I didn't conclude anything like that. ... ...
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May 4, 2008
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<<If you like them, then perhaps you could make the point that one can safely consume at least one or two servings per day of crucifers if one gets enough...
Millie Krejci
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May 4, 2008
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I think what Heather is saying is something my brother is doing right now. He had kidney stones a few years ago. There is some evidence that foods with...
Guru K
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May 4, 2008
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Guru, ... What he should be doing, first and foremost, is supplementing with vitamin K2, such as the supplements made by Thorne or Jarrow (two different types,...
Chris Masterjohn
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May 4, 2008
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Millie, ... Well I suppose I just made it, and I think I more or less made it in the article I had written that someone else linked to at the beginning of this...
Chris Masterjohn
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May 4, 2008
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I am trying to make koji starter. I have "The Book of Miso". I have koji rice. It is dry. I put about 1/2 cup in a jar with warm water and covered it and...
Guru K
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May 5, 2008
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Hi Everyone, ... Oh gosh, maybe I'm late. But first things first. Is this a Masterjohnism this term crucifer? I mean, the genus is Brassica in most cases,...
Deanna
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May 6, 2008
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I think it is because we are addressing the highly cruciferous nature of certain brassicas. I also agree with your 'all things in proper balance' notion, which...
tonio epstein
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May 6, 2008
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Deanna, ... LOL. Whatever. Brassica was used to replace crucifer to secularize the taxonomy. Crucifer is very common, in fact, I would say, still much more...
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May 6, 2008
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... Well, first of all, brassicas are a genus within the family Brassicacae, which was named Cruciferae by Linnaeus and remained as such for hundreds of years...
Chris Masterjohn
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May 6, 2008
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... From: "Chris Masterjohn" <chrismasterjohn@...> To: <Microbial_Nutrition@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MN]...
SeaDruid
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May 6, 2008
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... A sweeping statement - most that I know of who like their sweets can't handle Brussels sprouts, nor broccoli. Food in packets is their main fare :/ ... add...
Ross McKay
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May 6, 2008
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LOL, ok, maybe we can all at least agree that brussel sprouts were specifically designed and created to nauseate children. The rest hardly matters anymore, as...
tonio epstein
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May 6, 2008
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Chris No argument from me. GB ... right ... evidence ... Now he ... there ... instead ... definitely ... deficient in ... is ... are ... oxalate ... related...
Guru K
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Richard, ... You've confirmed everything I said -- I only know you through the internet. Chris...
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May 6, 2008
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... Same thing. :) ... I thought I read that somewhere, but maybe I was making it up in my head, as I can't find it now, so I'll concede the point. Thanks...
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May 6, 2008
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8948
Chris, ... Well good. Religion really has nothing to do with vegetables in the first place. And with so many religions in the world, why favor only one? But...
Deanna
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May 6, 2008
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Tonio, ... dislike their brassicas. I wonder what that could mean, particularly since the grandfather was a high level business partner of the Nazis leading up...
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May 6, 2008
12:19 pm
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Deanna, ... LOL. I don't know -- the leaves are cross-shaped. It's not really favoring a religion so much as acknowledging a shape. ... Maybe, but I kind of...
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