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Re: Avoiding Whey, Was Slimy Sauerkraut


I will also subscribe to the "no whey" is necessary for most ferments
camp. I started fermenting with whey because of the Nourishing
Traditions but some time after realized that I liked the cabbage
fermentation with salt only and other interesting flavours: ginger,
carrots, caraway, etc. much better. And have never had a bad batch
(some taste better than others though!).

The one ferment that I sometimes have problems with is Beet Kvass and
it requires whey or another inoculant (I have tried with sauerkraut
juice, probiotic pills and pickle juice). Does anybody know why it
forms a film of white stuff on top sometimes? Is it mold?

Patricia









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Hi everyone, My name is France and I am totally new to all this. I need your advice. I have been trying to eat more raw food. 5 days ago I decided to try to...
france_133
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Jul 1, 2009
4:58 am

Personally, if it is slimy, I would not eat it. Kraut should not have the slimy bacteria in it. If you don't like salt, then you need to add acid ... vinegar...
Heather Twist
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Jul 1, 2009
6:33 am

Hi all, On a related note, is sauerkraut ever a cause of botulism? I did a search on PubMed for sauerkraut and botulism and did not find any information. I...
dlmarykwas
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Jul 1, 2009
3:22 pm

I did some research on this back when, and botulism (clostridium) is a pretty wimpy bacteria. It mainly grows when there is very little competition, and also...
Heather Twist
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Jul 1, 2009
4:48 pm

To me, when making sauerkraut or any other fermented vegetable product, it makes more sense to include whey and a modest amount of salt than to rely upon salt...
dlmarykwas
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Jul 3, 2009
6:27 am

I think that one bad experience is too little on which to based a lifetime's behaviour. I have made kraut without whey and it has never gone slimy (nor gone ...
Sally Eva
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Jul 3, 2009
6:48 am

... I love the elegance of that statement! If people want to add whey, and it works for them, sure, go for it. But I had the same issue: it was too hard for me...
Heather Twist
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Jul 3, 2009
7:49 am

I would just add that there are no known reported cases of food-borne illness from fermented vegetables. Obviously you don't want to eat something that looks,...
SeaDruid
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Jul 3, 2009
1:47 pm

I will also subscribe to the "no whey" is necessary for most ferments camp. I started fermenting with whey because of the Nourishing Traditions but some time...
Patricia Meyer
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Jul 3, 2009
6:04 pm

I think the "white stuff" has been discussed from time to time and usually it is a kind of yeast. My Mom described that it was often on their homemade pickles...
Heather Twist
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Jul 3, 2009
11:36 pm

I concur on the beet kvass Patricia, it needs a starter to taste right. I haven't found a good replacement for whey, I tried rejuvalac when I had some around...
SeaDruid
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