Jct: I got so tired of my country’s leader Stephen Harper joining
Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy in trying to kill a man I consider a hero
that I decided to read his Green Book onto video. Of course I took the
time to argue where I thought he was wrong in his suggestions for
perfecting democracy and getting rid of dictators, bu over all, he’s
the only dictator I know who put his thoughts on how to run a
democratic world in a book. Name another tyrant who wrote a book about
how to get rid of tyrants.
So now no one has any excuse to stay ignorant and smear him when you
can hear what he really had to say at http://johnturmel.com/gathafi.wmv
It’s being rendered as I speak and I’ll be uploading it before
midnight. Sure, it’s almost 3 hours long but if you’re advocating
killing a man, doesn’t he deserve you find out what kind of man it is
you are trying to kill?
Then I’m going to cull the best of it for a 15 minute video at Youtube
real soon. But there will be excuse any more for ignorance about the
man so many want to see dead.

JCT: This is a really neat example of how to use a Facebook
UNILETS account.

Charlie Ruland: he'd lent $500 to a friend and the friend is
unable to pay him back. So he worked a deal whereby his
friend will feed him tennis balls at the rate of $20/hr or
for 25 hours.

Jct: Right, your FRIEND figured out how to use timebanking
to solve his BUDDY problem fairly and the UNILETS would have
simply automated that process and added efficiency to his
trade!

Say both went to the UNILETS Timebank Traders Facebook Group
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_146919308704209
and opened their own personal online timebarter accounts
like mine. http://www.facebook.com/john.turmel?sk=info

Once they both have a Facebook timebank account, the BUDDY
who owes would have posted on his info page that he owes
your FRIEND 50 (Ithaca) Hours = US$500 and then works them
off at feeding tennis balls at 2 Hours/hour and records the
Hours he pays off.

The only difference is that by listing it on Facebook, BUDDY
can pay his debt back by feeding tennis balls for
2Hours/hour to anyone else and FRIEND can hire someone else
to feed balls at 2Hours/hour when BUDDY isn't available! So
the timebank account lets both settle negative credits and
spend positive credits the fastest! Greater efficiency.

So your buddy figured out the fairest answer by himself.
Neat, eh? But I just want BUDDY's IOUs that FRIEND accepts
as good to be recognized by the whole world-wide database so
anyone who needs to be fed balls can call him up too.

Now imagine everyone cutting time-checks to settle up every
debt they've never been able to pay before and receiving
checks from others who had to stiff them! A general
forgiveness of overlapping debts as people pay off stiffs
and receive payments from stiffs.

Anyway, once they had a UNILETS timebank account, the
problem would have been solved automatically. Now extend the
solution to the whole world by accepting time IOUs from
anyone in the world since no one's checking and no one's
hiding from a debt that doesn't grow.

CR: By the way, I guess you don't care for Bernard Lietaer
(sp?).. as he is for some type of commodity-based money?

JCT: Yes, he's the leader of the forces fight for not-best
solution despite the best UNILETS Time Standard of Money
solution being on the Millennium Declaration C6. Same with
the guys pushing cash-based local currencies like Berkshares
while ignoring the LETS Ithaca timebank model usable
globally. It took a lot of thought to not choose global
time-based money and go with local cash-based dinky toys.

So I presume the people who made the choice of a basket of
commodities that's hard to compute while ignoring time-based
money that's easy to manage, are morons or moles. And most
likely moles. And Bernard The Banker Lietaer is the leader
of the bankster moles to take attention away from UNILETS
onto hard-to-run dinky toys.

CR: I thought I'd read an interview with him from the
Shumacher since web site..and I thought the latter was more
in line with your way of thinking.

I once picked apart one of his short posts and found half a
dozen mistakes I could bet were wrong and force him to back
down. What can I say, because of him UNILETS isn't here yet.



From: Charlie Ruland <charlieruland@...>
Subject: RE: Turmel: RE: Inquiry from Charlie Ruland
To: johnturmel@...
Received: Monday, May 2, 2011, 6:08 PM

Well, he assumed that loans were taking directly from
depositor's accounts..I assured him that this was certainly
not the case.  Also, one irony is that my tennis partner
belongs to the Vietnamese community, one of the most money
savvy groups.  And he told me that recently he'd lent $500
to a friend and the friend is unable to pay him back. So he
worked a deal whereby his friend will feed him tennis balls
at the rate of $20/hr or for 25 hours.  By the way, I guess
you don't care for Bernard Laietner (sp?)..as he is for some
type of commodity-based money?  I thought I'd read an
interview with him from the Shumacher web site..and I
thought the latter was more in line with your way of
thinking.
CMR

JCT: Real Martin was charged in June 2003, after the Parker
Court of Appeal for Ontario had ruled the possession offence
was invalid without an exemption since Aug 1 2001 and after
the Krieger Court of Appeal for Alberta had ruled the
cultivation offence was invalid without an exemption since
Mar 18 2003.

We all know that J.P.'s possession charge was quashed in
Windsor when the Court accepted that he had been busted in
June 2002 before the Hitzig fixed the exemption in Oct 2003.
But no one had their cultivation charge charge quashed.

So Martin moved to quash his possession charge pursuant to
Parker and his cultivation charge pursuant to Krieger.

They quashed his possession charge but not his cultivation
charge arguing that the cultivation charge was only struck
down in Alberta though 4000 possession charges were dropped
across Canada.

So Martin argued the Alberta Court of Appeal was just as
valid as the Ontario Court of Appeal.

The Ontario Court of Appeal then ruled that the Krieger
decision didn't apply to him because he wasn't sick like
Krieger. So he pointed out he wasn't sick like Parker when
they dropped his possession charge.

But the Supreme Court of Canada judges William Ian Corneil
Binnie, Morris J. Fish and Marshall Rothstein saw nothing
wrong with accepting the possession charge should be dropped
when invalidated by the Ontario Court of Appeal but not the
cultivation charge dropped when invalidated by the Alberta
Court of Appeal because Martin had to be sick to beat
cultivation even though it didn't matter in beating
possession.

And they call these guys Mr. Justice. Har har har har.

This is the Supreme Court of Canada Summary Page:

Summary
http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=34027
Case summaries are prepared by the Office of the Registrar
of the Supreme Court of Canada (Law Branch) for information
purposes only.

Criminal law - Offences -- Whether the Applicant's
conviction for the cultivation of marihuana should be
overturned as a result of jurisprudence in R. v. Krieger
(2000) 225 D.L.R. (4th) 164 (Alta. Q.B.) and Hitzig v. Her
Majesty the Queen (2003), 177 C.C.C. (3d) 449 (Ont. C.A.) --
Controlled Drugs and Substances Act S.C. 1996, c. 19, s.
7(1)

JCT: At least the question was clearly stated. Of course he
should have been acquitted with Krieger like he had been
with Parker. They didn't make that distinction.

In 2003, the Applicant was charged with possession and
production of marihuana contrary to ss. 4 and 7(1) of the
Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. Charges of possession
of marihuana were dropped by the Crown in 2005. The
Applicant was found guilty of production of marihuana and
argued at the Court of Appeal that based on the reasoning in
R. v. Parker (2000), 146 C.C.C. (3d) 193, Hitzig v. Her
Majesty the Queen (2003), 177 C.C.C. (3d) 449 (Ont. C.A.),
and R. v. Krieger (2000) 225 D.L.R. (4th) 164 (Alta. Q.B.),
the law was not in force at the time of his arrest. His
appeal was dismissed.

JCT: Notice they said: "Charges of possession of marihuana
were dropped by the Crown in 2005" but didn't say why! That
much truth would have made the look stupid like my earlier
information did.

At least posterity knows the kind of illogical math rejects
who make it to the top of the judicial profession.

So Martin did a double trip to the top. Since he's already
served his house arrest, what he didn't win was an
acquittal. But he sure made the Supreme Court judges look
like ignorant clowns.

And that's worth all the work. Three judges, Binnie, Fish
and Rothstein had to sign their names on a travesty of
injustice that they can never erase. Har har har har har.

Docket
http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/dock-regi-eng.aspx?cas=34027
34027
Real Martin v. Her Majesty the Queen
(Ontario) (Criminal) (By Leave)



Proceedings   Date Proceeding Filed By
(if applicable)
row 1 2011-04-26 Close file on Leave Not applicable
row 2 2011-04-26 Copy of formal judgment sent to Registrar
of the Court of Appeal and all parties Not applicable
row 3 2011-04-26 Judgment on leave sent to the parties Not
applicable
row 4 2011-04-21 Decision on the application for leave to
appeal, Bi F Ro, The application for leave to appeal from
the judgment of the Court of Appeal for Ontario, Number
C50273, dated November 19, 2010, is dismissed without costs.
Dismissed, without costs Not applicable
row 5 2011-03-09 Order on motion to extend time Her Majesty
the Queen
row 6 2011-03-09 Decision on motion to extend time, Reg, to
serve the respondent's response to Feb. 8/11
Granted, . Not applicable
row 7 2011-03-09 Submission of motion to extend time, Reg
  Not applicable
row 8 2011-03-07 All materials on application for leave
submitted to the Judges, Bi F Ro
  Not applicable
row 9 2011-02-18 Motion to extend time, to serve only the
respondent's response to Feb. 8/11, Completed on: 2011-02-18
Her Majesty the Queen
row 10 2011-02-17 Applicant's reply to respondent's
argument, Completed on: 2011-02-17 Real Martin
row 11 2011-02-03 Response to the motion to extend the time
to file and / or serve the leave application, Included in
the response, Completed on: 2011-02-03 Her Majesty the Queen
row 12 2011-02-03 Respondent's response on the application
for leave to appeal, Ext. of time requested - Rec'd on Feb.
18, 2011, Completed on: 2011-02-22 Her Majesty the Queen
row 13 2011-01-12 Motion to extend the time to file and or
serve the application for leave to appeal, (unnecessary),
Completed on: 2011-01-12 Real Martin
row 14 2011-01-10 Letter acknowledging receipt of a complete
application for leave to appeal Not applicable
row 15 2010-12-29 Application for leave to appeal, Completed
on: 2010-12-29 Real Martin

JCT: That's right. Even though Turner had an extra 40
different peeves against the MMAR, the Crown made a motion
to delay his constitutional challenge until after the
Mernagh appeal of Point 4 is heard.

Not quite our point 4. We argue that doctors being allowed
to opt out is a violation of the Charter. Mernagh argued
that so many doctors opting out is. Had there been enough
doctors, not all, it would have been okay. Of course, what's
enough? Typical incomplete lawying move.

The motion to discuss the witnesses will happen in October.
But by then, the 90 days to fix it given in Mernagh will
have passed. But now everyone charged can use the Turner
precedent to have their charges adjourned too! Everyone.

But they can still do their motions to quash before having
their Charter motions adjourned like Turner's.

But let's face it, Hitzig declared the MMAR flawed and the
Crown just ignored it.
Sfetkopoulos declared the MMAR flawed and the Crown ignored
it.
Beren declared the the MMAR flawed and the Crown ignored it.
And now Mernagh declared the MMAR flawed as if that's going
change anything.

Didn't you notice the headlines. It was Parker all over
again. "Court declares law invalid" but the suspension gives
them leeway to play around.

Anyway, people can still make their quash motions based on
the Gaudet Goodie with not only the Supreme Court of Canada
Sfetkopoulos and Beren decisions declaring MMAR flaws but
can mention the lower Ontario Court Mernagh decision
declaring a new MMAR flaw.

So it does help, even though the Crown can point out Mernagh
is being appealed, though they can't say that about the two
Supreme Court of Canada cases.

http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&discussionID=520253\
04&gid=3727071&commentID=38470516&trk=view_disc

Virginia (Jill) Harrison: Hello John, I don't think your
LETS idea addresses the social infrastructure required for
maintaining our communities.

JCT: Too bad you don't actually include what it is about
LETS Hours as currency that makes it not work when it works
fine in Ithaca New York.

VJH: My point about demurrage currency (a small negative
interest rate or 'holding fee' for money) is that the
economic exchange system should be structured to pay for the
governance of the community using it.

JCT: And I'm saying making your measuring unit a variable is
a silly way to pay for the governance when a simple tax of
the stable money sufficed King Henry I with his tallies. You
didn't see him needing to devalue his tokens to pay for the
upkeep of his kingdom so demurrage is unnecessary and having
a variable measuring unit is silly.

VJH: LETS schemes often have some membership fee to pay for
tracking the exchanges (or managing the clearinghouse, or
what ever you choose to call it), but they don't address the
social structures outside of their little exchange system.

JCT: And UNILETS doesn't address the social structure
outside of their planet Earth global exchange system?
Actually, hours are the best unit of exchange for dealing
with other civilizations outside planet Earth.

VJH: Governments maintain the social structures (roads,
schools, security...) with taxes, which look primarily to
the money that changes ownership in the form of income. One
problem with this is that the velocity of our money is
constantly slowing because it is accumulating into fewer
hands, which leaves insufficient taxes to maintain the
society required for markets function.

JCT: Velocity of chips is irrelevant if there are enough
chip. Who cares if a table of players who all buy in for
$100 in chips and over an evening reuse them 50 times or
whether they buy in for $1,000 chips and reuse them 5 times.
It's irrelevant and only becomes relevant when it costs you
interest to use the chips. Then you you want the highest
velocity for the fee you're paying. Otherwise, with
interest-free chips, velocity is irrelevant.

VJH: When you consider that less than 2% of the exchanges
are for actual goods & services and 98% is for speculation,
it's clear that the tax on people paying for their daily
existence isn't a big enough slice of the pie to be
maintaining the social infrastructure.

JCT: Using interest-bearing chips, yes, but using interest-
free LETS chips, no.

VJH: The basic problem causing this shift from money's
function as an exchange medium to its speculative instrument
of continually bursting bubbles is usury.

JCT: And LETS has no usury to cause the problems you say
will arise with usury that LETS doesn't have.

VJH: Instead of thinking about how to tax individuals our
corporations, why not create an exchange medium that
functions to maintain the community?

JCT: Because it's stupid to have to buy a stamp to stick on
to your devaluing token every month when a mere tax of the
non-devaluating tokens is far more efficient.

VJH: People get competitive about making loopholes for their
type of "income" and continually try to shift the burden
onto others and we've protected much of the speculative
exchange from taxes altogether.

JCT: In a world with not enough chips, yes, but in a LETS
world with enough chips, no.

jCT: Muammar Al-Gathafi's Green Book (Complete) is read in at
http://johnturmel.com/gathafi.wmv

Jct: We may as well find out more about the man Obama,
Cameron, Sarkozy and Harper are trying to kill to see if he
really is a tyrant.

JCT: Youtube Exerpts of Muammar Al-Gathafi's Green Book

Gathafi's Green Book #1/5: Why doesn't democracy work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_AKpX1bgZs

Gathafi's Green Book #2/5: How direct democracy could work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2kulrSaSgw

Gathafi's Green Book #3/5: meets Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged
(Not)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkML-1B4Ek
Jct: http://johnturmel/com/gathafi.wmv is my complete
reading of Muammar Gathafi's Green Book on how he thinks the
world should be fixed. He is one of the few world leaders
brave enough to have put his ideas to print. These are
exerpts from the solution to the problem of sharing the
wealth. I, like Ayn Rand, think his socialism is
unnecessarily egalitarian, but unlike Ayn Rand's hero, John
The Engineer Galt, who ran away to hide out in Shangrila
until the sheople overthrew the wolves, John The Engineer
Turmel had nowhere to hide out and has to take on the
wolves. Links to his other chapters can be found at
http://johnturmel.com/kotp.htm

Gathafi's Green Book #4/5: Atlas Shrugged to too egalitarian
socialism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUcgXxMOVrU

Gathafi's Green Book #5/5: A socialist world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7mqhqOJntQ

JCT: Finally, here's a video I couldn't resist including
since he tells some truth about Gathafi:

Morris' video: Gaddafi's Green Book - Western Democracy is a
Dictatorship http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56OxBMUh9v4

"Compare conditions in Libya with ours: it's like the devil
and the angel, and he's the angel."

JCT: Gathafi's the angel and Obama, Harper, Cameron, Sarkozy
are the devils destroying all that he accomplished in
bombing their schools and hospitals.

"sometimes amounting to debts of over 2,000 dollars for a 200-dollar
loan. *Future of microcredit? *"
Jct: With UNILETS interest-free macro-lending right around the corner.
There is no future for Yunus' Grameen Bank's micro-loansharking.
Unfortunately, Trent Schroyer censors my posts to this
http://yahoogroups.com/grop/toeslist TOES group where I presented
UNILETS for the first time in 1997 in Denver.

Let's face it: none of our environmental fixes break the planet-
wrecking project
All of us in the green movement are lost before the planet's real
nightmare: not too little fossil fuel – but too much
George Monbiot |. www.guardian.co.uk
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/02/environmental-fixes-all-gree\
ns-lost

George Monbiot: "None of us yet has a convincing account of how
humanity can get out of this mess."
Jct: Speak for the low-techs. John The Engineer's plans to stop the
mort-gage death-gamble forcing nations to export what they can't buy
at home because of the usury component of the price. Fuel to ship
their extra here trying to sell it and fuel to ship ours there trying
to sell it. Fuel for every nation to ship its surplus it can't buy at
home saved by eliminating the usury should cut back on fuel
consumption sufficiently for the rest to suffice.Fuel to ship their
extra here trying to sell it and fuel to ship ours there trying to
sell it. Fuel for every nation to ship its surplus it can't buy at
home saved by eliminating the usury should cut back on fuel
consumption sufficiently for the rest to suffice.
That's why I'm running for Prime Minister of the Planet. It takes
global cooperation.

JCT: Fidel Castro will be remembered for having sent more
doctors to help the Third World than America has sent
weapons to help their dictators. He's another of my rare
political heroes who didn't steal from his people, making
him Enemy #1 of the United States which prefers murderous
thieving dictators to help them rob those nations of their
natural resources. Keep in mind, the yankees have been
trying to murder him for half a century.

Here's his take on the killing of unarmed Osama Bin Laden:

Reflections by Comrade Fidel
May 4, 2011 8:34 p.m.
Fidel Castro Ruz

Those persons who deal with these issues know that on
September 11 of 2001 our people expressed its solidarity to
the US people and offered the modest cooperation that in the
area of health we could have offered to the victims of the
brutal attack against the Twin Towers in New York.
We also immediately opened our country's airports to the
American airplanes that were unable to land anywhere, given
the chaos that came about soon after the strike.
The traditional stand adopted by the Cuban Revolution, which
was always opposed to any action that could jeopardize the
life of civilians, is well known.
Although we resolutely supported the armed struggle against
Batista's tyranny, we were, on principle, opposed to any
terrorist action that could cause the death of innocent
people. Such behavior, which has been maintained for more
than half a century, gives us the right to express our views
about such a sensitive matter.
On that day, at a public gathering that took place at Ciudad
Deportiva, I expressed my conviction that international
terrorism could never be eradicated through violence and
war.
By the way, Bin Laden was, for many years, a friend of the
US, a country that gave him military training; he was also
an adversary of the USSR and Socialism. But, whatever the
actions attributed to him, the assassination of an unarmed
human being while surrounded by his own relatives is
something abhorrent. Apparently this is what the government
of the most powerful nation that has ever existed did. In
the carefully drafted speech announcing Bin Laden's death
Obama asserts as follows:
"...And yet we know that the worst images are those that
were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner
table. Children who were forced to grow up without their
mother or their father. Parents who would never know the
feeling of their child's embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens
taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.
"That paragraph expressed a dramatic truth, but can not
prevent honest persons from remembering the unjust wars
unleashed by the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan, the
hundreds of thousands of children who were forced to grow up
without their mothers and fathers and the parents who would
never know the feeling of their child's embrace.
Millions of citizens were taken from their villages in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Cuba and many other
countries of the world.
Still engraved in the minds of hundreds of millions of
persons are also the horrible images of human beings who, in
Guantanamo, a Cuban occupied territory, walk down in
silence, being submitted for months, and even for years, to
unbearable and excruciating tortures. Those are persons who
were kidnaped and transferred to secret prisons with the
hypocritical connivance of supposedly civilized societies.
Obama has no way to conceal that Osama was executed in front
of his children and wives, who are now under the custody of
the authorities of Pakistan, a Muslim country of almost 200
million inhabitants, whose laws have been violated, its
national dignity offended and its religious traditions
desecrated.
How could he now prevent the women and children of the
person who was executed out of the law and without any trial
from explaining what happened? How could he prevent those
images from being broadcast to the world?
On January 28 of 2002 the CBS journalist Dan Rather reported
through that TV network that on September 10 of 2001, one
day before the attacks against the World Trade Center and
the Pentagon, Osama Bin Laden underwent a hemodialysis at a
military hospital in Pakistan. He was physically unfit to
hide and take shelter inside deep caves.
Having assassinated him and plunging his corpse into the
bottom of the sea are an expression of fear and insecurity
which turn him into a far more dangerous person.
The US public opinion itself, after the initial euphoria,
will end up by criticizing the methods that, far from
protecting its citizen, will multiply the feelings of hatred
and revenge against them.

JCT: And keep in mind that the original US lies about Bin
Laden being armed and using his wife as a shield in the
firefight stems from the fact America knows killing unarmed
people isn't something to be proud of. And they needed
people who were unashamed dancing in the streets so the
original reports couldn't tell the truth.  So, as usual,
Obama lied and the yankee media repeated it as truth.

Jct: A poem in praise of Muammar Gathafi building his earthly heaven
in Libya now being destroyed by the NATO forces of evil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hKBm5qO9ZI
this goes with the other 5 "Gathafi's Green Book" videos you can
access at http://johnturmel.com/kotp.htm

JCT: I had a guy telling people that the prohibition was
still alive because it hadn't been killed on Terry Parker
Day. Wouldn't take my $10 bet that the law died on Terry
Parker Day:

--- In MedPot-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Doc Weedlaw"  wrote:
Maybe David Shea is the last Canadian to find out?

Jct: No, I think he simply didn't see how his doubts added
up to denying that Terry Parker Day took place. Remember his
crowd are busy killing it again. Wouldn't do to admit it's
still dead so you say it was never dead. And since people
are being convicted, and no judge has said so, that proves
it's not dead. They wouldn't do it if they couldn't do it so
they can (Nielsen Crown to Judge Edward who said ok and
continued prosecution).

And all we can do is prove it died on Terry Parker Day and
ask him how it came back. No answer. Run away. That's why my
betting his argument wasn't true was so decisive. Even for a
lousy $10 trophy on my wall.

Anyway, the Gaudet Goodie explains it all: it's actually so
easy to understand that you have to suspect the guy who
can't get it.
(I love this so much, people should memorize it too)
It's your ticket to ride. "The MMAR Exemption wasn't working
when I got busted, nyeah, nyeah, nyeah, nyeah)". There were
all the stays below based on the J.P. decision before the
Court of Appeal and then the 4,000 charges withdrawn across
Canada in December 2003.

Crown Attorney Sean Gaudet to Supreme Court of Canada in
Sfetkopoulos v. Canada:
"[33] The Court in R. v. J.P. ruled that the combined
effect of Parker and Hitzig meant there was no
constitutionally valid marijuana possession offence

Jct: Parker Court ruled prohibition needed an exemption and
Hitzig Court ruled the Exemption hadn't worked due to supply
flaws so JP Court ruled JP was busted while the exemption
wasn't working and could not be convicted while the
prohibition was invalid.

between July 31 2001

Jct: That's the last day of prohibition and we started
partying on Terry Parker Day Aug. 1 2001.

and Oct 7 2003, the date the MMAR
were constitutionally rectified by the decision in
Hitzig.

Jct: So the CDSA prohibition was dead since Terry Parker Day
until the day the Hitzig Court removed the MMAR 2 years
later. The premise is the prohibition was turned back on by
the fixing of the MMAR. Interpretation Act 43(1) says fixing
something on one act can't bring something in another act
back to life, but they say they did.

Courts may construe the Federal Court of
Appeal's decision as creating a similar period of
retrospective invalidity dating back to December 3
2003, the date that s.41(b.1) was re-introduced into
the MMAR."

Jct: That's right, we don't have to complain about the court
bringing the CDSA back to life by fixing the MMAR when they
reinstalled the two flaws 2 months later hoping they'd
covered themselves by providing marijuana themselves,
suppliers didn't care and it lost again as constitutionally
uneconomical.

So no more complaining about the part of the JP decision
that said Hitzig fixing the MMAR did what S.43 says it could
not do, bring the CDSA back to life, and relying on the part
of JP where they said that when the exemption isn't working,
have to let the kids go.

If this isn't good news to be happy about, I don't know what
is.
So why would David Shea just not not be as happy as everyone
else to know our 2 Supreme Court MMAR BADs prove no
exemption when busted for most and only be happy about a new
MMAR BAD at the lower court?

Supreme Court of Canada Sfetkopoulos proved the MMAR BAD
again, like the first Hitzig flaw, S.C.C. Beren proved the
MMAR Bad again, like the second Hitzig flaw, and now
Superior Court of Ontario Mernagh proved the MMAR BAD with a
complaint already turned down in New Brunswick and Alberta
that the non-participation of doctors was unconstitutional.
So, so far, there are three "doctor" appeals going on, the
first two we know about with the proceedings posted. Those
judges found that one in a hundred doctors proved that
doctors were participating enough and now Taliano says it's
not enough. 2:1 for the Crown so far. But they're all at
Courts of Appeal! Neat eh?

Both Todd LeClair and Elisha McDermott raised Point 4 about
not enough doctors in their Constitutional challenges too!
So 3 provincial Courts of Appeal will be ruling on the
doctors all at the same time and then into the Supreme Court
of Canada consolidated, I'd bet. For Mernagh to win, LeClair
and McDermott's judges would have to be shot town. For their
judges to win, Taliano has to be shot down. So will the new
doctors flaw get shot down since Lederman, that Court of
Appeal, and now two other provincial Superior Courts have
also said that some doctors do so it's not impossible.

And where are we? With our Supreme Court Aces of
Sfetkopoulos and Beren proving the same two flaws that
caused the exemption failure the last time they had to let
everyone go except this time, this hole hasn't been closed
yet!

Anyway, it's interesting that it's so easy for them to pull
a Lederman (first judge who said any doctors is enough) and
agree with the other two provinces. So the Crown's playing a
pretty good hand against Mernagh's lower-court Judge
Taliano. Look at Turmel's losses in other provinces. He
certainly didn't explain how refusal of 98% of the doctors
to participate violated the patient's right to life as
effectively as could have been done elsewhere by a real
lawyer.

Still, the point is that upholding Mernagh shoots down
judges in 2 other provinces who will probably have been
heard before Mernagh's appeal. If our guys lose, it'll be
hard for Taliano to prevail.

And a lot of time wasted in having James Turner's 40 other
flaws raised in his constitutional challenge (keep in kind
that stalling Turner's 40-barrel machine gun while we wait
to see what happens with Mernagh's one-flaw barrel seems
less than optimal for our side).

Except for Terry Parker's appeal for his pot back forging
ahead.

We were in Court of Appeal last week for procedural stuff.
Ready to file our factum and put the matter on the list. But
the Crown wants to have a conference call with "amicus
curiae" lawyer appointed by the court because I did an
unheard of things to get Terry in and the Crown wants to
argue I wasn't allowed to get over a hurdle where no
official path had been provided. But Justice Tulloch ruled
that since there is no path of appeal from a S.24
application for the return of a controlled substances, S.40
of the rules say I can file my appeal with the Summary
Conviction Appeal Registrar and follow those rules. So I
did. And we bumped around a few hearings until they finally
said okay.

The Crown is trying to argue Parker shouldn't be heard even
though the law says, when there's no other way, go this way
and we did. We're going to win this part of it.

And of course, Parker's using the Gaudet Goodie which
mentions that when the exemption isn't working, Parker's
Charter Right to Life is being violated so the prohibition
is off again.

http://techshadez.ishadez.com/tag/community-currencies/

Make.Money.Slow, not make chips stable, not make chips
sound, but make chips slow? Compare the UNILETS Bitchips to
these Bitcoins to see <B>how truly inferior online Bit-coins is
to online UNILETS Bit-poker-chips.
Aiming at making money slow is not a tactical error like
using the wrong golf club, it's a strategic error like not
aiming at the hole (of stability).
http://johnturmel.com/uniset.htm shows you how to set up
your own P2P UNILETS Timebank Bitchips credits account at
Facebook like me or anywhere else without all the stupid
limitations, bells and whistles designed into the Bitcoin
credits.
What can their Bitcoins do that your own Bitchips can not?

JCT: When you watch us dying in our own pollution while our
leaders spend time making war, the world looks Hell-bent on
catastrophe.

Wouldn't a Chief Engineer of the Planet go good now?

What would I do as P.M. or Chief Engineer?

How to switch from Hell to Heaven?

ASA: Global Aspirin: Amnesty, Security, Anonymity

- Amnesty from the lowliest torturer to the banker who
financed it, forgive and forget the crimes playing death-
gamble in Hell.

- Security: UNILETS Timebank Account: Reprogram central bank
computers to operate on Earth like they do in Heaven with an
interest-free PayPal repayable with cash or time. Losses
prorated over the whole database.

- Anonymity: Let torturer or slaver names be changed.

Abolish all prohibitions on victimless personal behavior

My Motto from my KingofthePaupers channel:

I want no cops in gambling, sex, or drugs or rock & roll,
I want no usury on loans, pay cash or time, no dole.

Mass produce marijuana and apricot seeds to fight the
cancers everyone on the planet is going to get from the
Fukyshima Plutonium Fallout and decommission and bury the
nuclear industry.

http://johnturmel.com/abprogs.htm have my programs.

Who wants what properly-financed engineering can deliver?
Time to help by getting wired: http://johnturmel.com/uniset.htm

Marc Gauvin wrote:

>>Jct: I'm set up with my UNILETS page, you aren't. That's why
we can't trade.

MG: Yes we can, we make a deal that you can stay at my place
for a couple of hours of accordion playing.
JCT: No accordion playing. How, when, where I put those
Hours back is my business. The world will offer to cover my
Hour for you as I'll offer to redeem it from the world.

MG: But if I don't know you, I need a way of knowing if your
good for it,

JCT: Like I said, I'm using the same criterion for the lazy
and sick as for the starving orphans around the world.
Isaiah 55.

MG: in the case if you are free loader disguised as someone
with a positive account when I have no way of checking to
see if your authentic.

JCT: Luckily it's me and the non-freeloaders who are
guaranteeing the credits of the sick, lazy, young. You're
not going to be able to chase the guy you helped more than a
posting to his board.

MG: Therefore we need a bank account that is run by an
agency whose job it is to keep the accounts and make sure
they are authentic.

JCT: Sure, I'd like solid ID, that's part of my Info page.
And there's always a face linked with whatever service you
gave you feel they have not settled yet. One reason for
interest is to spur them along in payments. I don't think
we'll need any LETS police. I have never heard of one person
refusing to honor a timebank IOU yet. People feel empowered
when given the respect of belonging to a group. Stiffs just
don't happen. Do you really think there are LETS police in
heaven making sure no one's padding their score? You can't
hide any illegal gain!

MG: This is why we need to make one's balance public,

Jct: Yes, I agree that scores should be public. So we can
check how many Hours that crippled orphan received in
medical operations and his chances of putting those hours
back, not. I'm open to people in the negative not having to
have their scores public as long as those in the positive
wanting to vaunt their productivity can be in the public
arena. I sure will. But I can understand how a lesser
negative cousin who gathered little might not want his
weakness shown and can close his public account. That would
not bother me since we're pro-rating the loss at end of life
over the whole database anyway. Gee, Marc, have you
forgotten the Fire Insurance Program for distributing losses
that we'd use to cover the Mentally Retarded Herbies of the
world (that was a skit I used to about how my lesser cousin
struck it rich in Heaven).

MG: if George is a suave fast talking playboy with a balance
of minus a million I might no be as interested in selling
him my wares to him when Dave is minus 3000 which is
perfectly normal in the average swing between positive and
negative balances.

JCT: And when you can't see the sickly or the lazy's
account, what are you going to be able to worry about? Let
Mr. Lazy Playboy over-spend his dividend and die in the
negatives with the sick as long as preventing them from
using credit isn't the reason preventing me and workers from
using credit.

MG: Even better Steve who is positive that amount.

JCT: And what if Mr. Lazy wins a lottery? Writes a popular
song. Gets successful in later life? All that angst chasing
him when he finally ended up scoring it all in one coup?

MG: My point is if we are not distinguishing between
producers and non producers then we don't need to keep
score,

JCT: You and Gathafi think so. Seems beautiful sharing out
the abundance at potlatch but I see no reason where we can
keep score just for the fun of it for those of us who wish
to excel and want goals to aim at. And for those who don't
want to show score, fine, I'm in favor of that too.

I want to know which rock star sold the most DVDs last year.
Which miner scored the most ore! And how they'll relate with
a fair medium of exchange. Why get rid of a medium of
exchange if it no longer steals from the poor to give to the
rich?

And you know linking your equitableness to Gathafi's was a
compliment to both of you.

MG: we just do the good samaritan thing and help everyone
with the best we have.

JCT: The database is too big. We Bitchip in so they can hire
the best professionals to do it best. Only once we can
Bitchip in without having to pay interest on the chips.

MG: Of course probably starting with our immediate family
and community, where people know each other and can
independently verify reputation.

JCT: I'm not worried about the IOU of anyone with 20-60
years to go trying to settle it up before they die under
Heavenly lending rules. I keep telling you you don't have to
worry yourself about being abused when it's the whole
database picking up the tab for any sick or lazy and not
you. And UNILETS is the whole 6 billion of us to share in
covering the losers, whatever the reason. (Dying early?)

MG: So back to my question, do I simply open a unilets
account, post my offering as well as my score,

JCT: Yes. Set up accounts like at my facebook info page with
OFFERS, WANTS, HOURS GIVEN, HOURS RECEIVED. Then record the
Hours I already sent you for solving the earlier puzzles.
Same with Larry, he could register the Hours he won the
moment he starts up his own UNILETS-compatible Timebank
account. johnturmel@... sent X Hours for finding flaws
in banking systems engineering designs.

MG: or

JCT: No more or, offers and wants and financial score.

MG: does the unilets service post my score on the basis of
my transactions?

JCT: You have to do it by hand until someone offers to take
a service charge to do it automatically for us. Facebook,
Twitter, whichever service, could host a UNILETS-compatible
Timebank Account. Here's my old UNILETS account
from my site: http://johnturmel.com/unilets.htm pre-facebook

MG: It is not the same that I tell the world my balance of
earned or owed hours than a trusted third party doing so.

Jct: I'm not going to waste a trusted third party's time
which is why I find Ripple silly. With the pro-rating
program when people die, positive or negative, what are you
worried about? We're entering an era of abundance where
people are paid their worth in a fair free market.

Turmel News at Facebook for a Hell of a ride to Heaven

Jct: If you're only getting your Adventures of John The
Engineer in these postings, you're missing 90% of the jokes.
Of course, the humor is only for insiders and posterity who
possess the key to the code.

What humanity could do to save itself? I'm sure everyone
feels we should throw every resource we have at cleaning our
environment, putting out best minds to work on saving our
planet from catastrophe. Good idea?

Is there anyone who would not want us to get organized to
maximize useful industrial output with all our scientists
and technicians all full time working to save our biosphere
while the rest of us are working to provide them food,
clothing, shelter. Make sense? Good idea?

So we'll feed and clothe them as they work to save us. Good
idea? Oops. No money for them to obtain food and clothes. No
go. We have the human, material and tools but everything is
stalled for lack of tokens to trade. How silly. Not enough
poker chips to run the game right.

Contemplating the switch from Hell to Heaven, banking done
on Earth as it is in Heaven, was always rosy thinking for
me. What a great heaven we'll end up building with all this
great technology once not-wastefully used.

But after Fukushima, with Heaven switched finally on, looks
the first few thousand years are going to be spent cleaning
up the radioactive mess left from when the Rothschild Gang
were in charge of the world's credit.

Well, ASA, forgive and forget, let me turn on the levers of
industry to full financing for productive enterprise and zero
financing for non-productive enterprise (war, etc) and we'll
skip the Nuremberg Trials for those who oppressed us while
we were caught in Satan's Mort-Gage Death-Gamble trap. ASA
may be one reason I'm still around.

http://facebook.com/john.turmel is where I post all the
interesting news URLs I find in a day with whatever comment
or joke I can think of. It takes me just a few seconds to
post the link with the comment I left at the site. Ten,
maybe twenty different yuks a day I just could not post to
these newsgroups. Everything I post to USENET groups I link
there too!
So pop on over for your daily Turmel News at
http://facebook.com/john.turmel if you want to stay abreast
of everything that's going on in the adventures of John The
Engineer, KingofthePaupers.
"Who is John Galt?" "Who is John the engineer Galt?" Who is
Atlas Shrugged?"
Who is Atlas Shrugged Not? Lifting the world back up coming
up. Watch the end game between the Gambler and the World
Bankers at http://facebook.com/john.turmel

Better yet, friend me for a feed to your wall so your
friends find out some important facts.

Best yet, no one needs wait to set up their own online
UNILETS Timebank account. I did at my Facebook Info Page
where my Offers and Wants, Hours Given and Received, for the
past dozen years are listed at
http://www.facebook.com/john.turmel?sk=info An instruction
page on setting up your own facebook UNILETS timebank
account is at http://johnturmel.com/uniset.htm. Do your
first transaction. Email johnturmel@... that you've
posted your first Thank You Hour owed for my having provided
you with this UNILETS Timebank interest-free credit account
for your immediate use.

Get set for bad times and having a network of people you can
pay with time will be your lifeboat in turbulent financial
waters. And every trade you can do with your time is cash
freed up from your regular paycheck at the bank to settle
the tough cash only bills.
Pay for the kids' music lessons by washing the old lady's
car, or having the kids taking the lessons wash the old
lady's car, and that's cash that stayed in the bank!
Make your kids put a Timebank account in their Info page and
see if they can't use them to settle debts and chores.

Just go to uniset.htm and fill in your ID, WANTS, OFFERS,
HOURS GIVEN, HOURS RECEIVED and you're ready to invite
anyone into your barter network who'll set up their own
UNILETS-compatible Timebank Account.

Get your company to sign up and who knows how much LETS
barter might help them.
But all the action, comments on world events, feedback is
logged most conveniently at my facebook page (sad you can't
search for specific periods when things happened but must
page back, impossible with thousands of links and comments
over the past 2 years.

But if it's on a Big Lie being exposed, that makes my wall,
if it's on how to save ourselves with baking soda and sea
salt from nuclear poisoning and other relevant data, it
makes my wall.

LETS were called anti-poverty systems in the UK, financial
"life-boats" in Australia. I've developed a Person to Person
P2P anti-poverty lifeboat for global use. If you don't set
up your lifeboat and start developing trading networks now,
you'll only gain more misery. Timetrading is the work of the
future, published volunteer Hours is the medium of exchange.

Get set for a Hell of a ride to Heaven as we reprogram
money-lending on Earth as it is programmed in Heaven.

JCT: The Crown managed to delay the staying of the charges
until after the election.

April 12 the Crown said they needed some kind of
verification from the police officer and some kind of
warning from the school for me not to trespass and it got
put off.

April 26 another Crown said they still hadn't obtained the
necessary documentation to permit the charges to be stayed
and we'd all have to come back again.

May 10, finally, without giving me any kind of warning not
to trespass at the school (I had stayed off their property
last time so what relevance a warning would have I don't
know), the Crown asked to have the charges stayed.

So that means in a year, the charges disappear.  But people
will always be able to say that the charges were not
withdrawn so they I could still have been guilty. Mr.
Brock's way of making sure I remain smeared by innuendo even
though I did nothing wrong and hanging a bogus charge over
my head for another year is wrong. Wrong to someone with
morals but not to a lawying attorney.

Brant News
Turmel arrested at PJC
http://www.brantnews.com/news.cfm?page=news§ion=read&articleId=8980

Brantford mayoral candidate John Turmel was charged with
causing a disturbance and uttering a threat on Friday after
police were called to Pauline Johnson Collegiate.
Police said they were called at 3pm to deal with an unwanted
person at the high school.
Upon arrival, police said they found a man surrounded by
students and staff "yelling and carrying on" with some of
the students."

JCT: Bet I'm first person ever charged with "carrying on".

Turmel has campaigned at local high schools in past
elections.
After Turmel was asked to leave

JCT: Leave the sidewalk,

police allege he threatened to physically harm a staff
member if they interfered with him.

JCT: That's just constable Aragian distorting what happened.

Turmel is the Guinness World Record holder for most
elections contested. The city mayoral race is his 74th
campaign.


Expositor wrote:
http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2802962

CITY MAYORAL CANDIDATE FACES CHARGES

A city mayoral candidate faces charges following an incident
Friday afternoon outside of Pauline Johnson Collegiate.
City police said Friday that John Turmel, 59, is charged
with causing a disturbance and uttering a threat. He is one
of nine candidates seeking the mayor's office in the Oct. 25
municipal election.
Police said they were called to the Colborne Street school
at about 3 p.m. because of reports of an unwanted person.
Officers arrived to see a man with a video camera surrounded
by school staff and students.
The man, who was yelling, refused to leave when asked by
staff, police said.
Police said the man threatened to physically harm a staff
member.

JCT: After the charges were stayed, I sent a message to both
newspapers.

Brant News
May 11 2011
Charges against Turmel stayed
Jason Teale

"I was doing nothing illegal" former mayoral candidate says

Former city mayoral candidate John Turmel says he did
nothing wrong when he was charged with causing a disturbance
and uttering threats during last year's municipal election
campaign.

JCT: But that's how a crooked cop can make doing nothing
illegal sound.

Turmel was involved in an incident with students and staff
at Pauline Johnson Collegiate on Oct 15 last year. Charges
against him were stayed in Ontario Court of Justice on
Wednesday, Turmel said during an interview.
"The teachers overreacted," Turmel said. "I was standing on
the sidewalk videotaping students, asking them questions and
doing nothing wrong."

JCT: And I'd have been able to prove it with the videotape
of the event but that evidence was destroyed while in Const.
Agarian's custody.

City police said on the say of the incident they were called
at 3pm. "to deal with an unwanted person at the high
school."
Police said that upon arrival they found a man surrounded by
staff "yelling and carrying on" with some of the students.
Turmel said he is "amazed it took so long" for the charges
in relation to the incident to be thrown out.

JCT: And Crown Brock has managed to keep the bogus charges
hanging over my head for another year.

"They had no right to tough me," he said.

JCT: But Mr. Brock not only holds the charges over my head
but also lets them get away with assaulting me and
destroying evidence.


The Brantford Expositor didn't print anything. So not only
did they do the smear last time without even interviewing
me, now they won't even correct their false smear.

So I went to their report of my story and commented:

Jct: I noticed the Brant News article May 12 2011 "Charges
against Turmel stayed" and though I sent the same notice to
the Expositor, nothing. I guess you've decided to not inform
your readers and leave the smear intact. People complain
about a charge being on the front and the acquittal on the
back but here the acquittal doesn't make the news. Shame on
the Expositor editor who decided not to set the record
straight."

JCT: The next day, buried at the bottom of the court news:

Charges stayed
Charges of causing a disturbance and uttering threats laid
against John Turmel , 60, in connection with an incident in
front of Pauline Johnson Collegiate on Oct 15 2010  were
stayed.

JCT: I wonder how many people who saw the original highly
prominent article saw the lowly prominent article reporting
the result?

Anyway, a thoroughly disgusting intercourse with the justice
system with witnesses perjuring themselves saying I had
trespassed, cop destroying evidence, and Crown keeping bogus
charges hanging over my head, the whole process dirty and
corrupted. Everyone of them did their job badly.

Dealing with such people makes one feel like taking a
shower.

JCT: Some commentary on my Facebook wall about this video:

Bible's Buried Secrets (BBC) Ep. 1:
Did King David's empire exist? (1/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGXemCRNNH4&list=PL835D99780F6AC79C
First episode (out of 3) of the BBC programme, hosted by
biblical scholar Dr. Francesca Stavrakopoulou. Here she
explores what archeology can tell us about the kingdom of
David, and even the historicity of David.

Jct: I find it incredible you don't look at the Armana
archives with a letter from Ishbaal (Saul's (Labayu's) son
to Akhenaten mentioning Dadua (David) and Yeshuya (David's
father Jesse).

David Rohl's A Test of Time convinces that David built his
kingdom while Egypt was in chaos and Solomon allied himself
with Pharaoh and was given Pharaoh's daughter for a wife.
Solomon could have been Rameses brother- or uncle-in-law,
why he protected Jeroboam when Sol tried to kill him, then
conquered Rehoboam.

A Test of Time exposes that they've been looking for
evidence in the wrong time-level. Solomon was in the rich
late bronze era, not the poor early iron age era. Searching
for evidence of Saul and David in Akhenaten's time rather
than way la...ter found great evidence all the way back to
Jacob. Because of errors found by Rohl, archeology has many
"dark ages" for which they can't find any pottery.
(Pottery's how they date ages, every body needs vessels for
food and drink, imagine life with cups and bowls). Hundreds
of years with no history, lacunae (gaps), and when you push
Rameses down from 1447 for the Exodus bum rap to 925 when he
sacked Jerusalem, it changes lots of history.

Again, I say David Rohl's chronology in A Test of Time is
the most incredible find in bibilcal history. And it didn't
make this video! Though they did point out the stela talking
about destroying the "House of David." It was there but
regular archeology don't have any evidence because
Akhenaten's chaotic era had to have taken place before Moses
and the Exodus so Rameses could be pharaoh then. How can be
be pharaoh 500 years later?

But he was and that means that there are whole other parts
of folklore that can be proven once they move the Late
Bronze Age from 1400s to the 1000s! Once they're moved down
to where they should be, that means there are gaps above for
histo...ry that has not been recorded! If they're pulling
down whole dynasties to fill the gaps below, that opens up
gaps above for which there is no official history! The
Hyksos period was longer than they tell us, Judges is longer
than they tell us, lots of historial periods that were
hidden by the off-chronologh. What interesting folklores may
turn out fo the true! Anyway, how could they have missed
looking at evidence using David Rohl's new dating with
Rameses being related to Solomon, one reason his reign was
so peaceful and non warlike! Who wants to make war with
Rameses brother in law? Oh the possible movies they'll make
when that dynamic gets known.See More

Jeroboam leading Isreal and Rehoboam at Jerusalem with
Judah, the heads of their different tribes, with Jero
surviving assassination by Sol so Reho could get both
because he found refuge with Pharaoh. And when Sol died,
Jero came back to le...ad Israel tribes while Reho became
King of Jerusalem. then 7 years later, Pharaoh "shishak"
invades Jerusalem to strips nephew- or cousin-in-law Reho of
everything, sacks Jerusalem, but lets the kin live.
Ramesheshe (s is sh over there) is the name, sheshe is the
nickname. And because Shoshenk sounded like Shishak, they
credited Shoshenk from a 100 years later with being Shishak,
the sacker of Jerusalem. Since Shoshenk's campaign beat up
on the tribes of Israel and not Judah, his wasn't Shishak's
who beat up on Judah! Rameses campaign walls do mention
sacking "Shalem." And now you know why he let them all live.
Incredible story, how Shishak stripped Jerusalem of
everything but spared the people! Rohl's explains why. His
sister or aunt may have been Reho's mother. Rameses can't
kill his own kin. But he can teach him a lesson.See More

And it didn't make the story, yet! Maybe I should write a
book on what I've learned about history.

Okay, David may not have had the great empire but Sol did.
Kin to the pharaoh, 40 years of peace, Rich Late Bronze Age!
What  a story still to be told.

JCT: Another wanna-be banking systems engineer pontificating
on how money works at Jay Fenello's blog at
http://tranzitioning.com/index.php where I read:

Money Creation
Printing Money
Borrowing Money

Destroying Money
Paying off Interest
Retiring Debts
Paying Taxes
Bankruptcy
Default
Summary
Today we've covered the assorted ways that money is created
and destroyed, the role of the U.S. Government in the
process, and why bankruptcy and default are built into the
system. Next time, we'll look at the National Debt Limit,
the role of the Federal Reserve, and alternatives and
consequences to our current system.  As always, comments
welcome. Until next time

JCT: So errs the professor. Har har har. I commented:

Jct: Paying interest and paying taxes does not retire money
from circulation. Only payment of loan principal does that.
See http://johnturmel.com/bankmath.htm of youtube for How
Banks Create Money

Jay Fenello: Considering my example above, after one year,
the person who borrowed $5 now owes $6. If they only pay the
$1 in interest, they still owe $5, but only $4 are left in
circulation. That $1 in interest has been effectively
retired... from the money supply.

JCT: I responded:

Jct: Check the plumbing and you'll see only payments of
principal go down the drain. Payments of interest are used
by the banks to pay their expenses and those funds are not
extinguished. How could they make it look like a piggy bank
if they destroyed the interest. Besides, why would they?
It's hard enough getting people to accept principal payments
get retired from circulation without trying to say the same
for interest. It's had enough they never printed the money
to match the interest creating a death-gamble but focusing
on something that is not the problem distracts from the real
solution, getting rid of the interest.
Anyway, I'd bet you'll find many statements in Economics
admitting the principal paid off gets destroyed but you
won't find any saying the interest gets destroyed. That's
what pays for the banking system, they say, so how could it
be destroyed?

JCT: My response he censored and did not put up.

E Christopher Carolan: Man John, you really have your head
wrapped around the Money Supply. Your a great thinker.

Jct: When I was first faced with Mammon's malfunctions, it
took me 40 days of thinking before I wrote in my journal:
"what would a world with no interest look like?" What would
a world run with poker chips by Donald Trump's casino
cashier l...ook like? And I could only see Heaven where now
see Hell. Except now, the first few thousand years of heaven
is going to be cleaning up the nuclear mess left by the last
crew running the planet, the Rothschild Gang of World
Banksters.
And I've found that money reformers who don't think in chips
almost all fail to see the Big Picture. I'm correcting
people 30 years later with analogies with chips showing how
silly the doubt was. People have an aversion to thinking in
term...s of poker chips, too simple maybe, and so keep
getting confused by Mammon's Memes. (ingrained big lies like
"everybody wants interest so I'll have to pay interest to
use money" when knowing it's not savings, it's new printings
we're borrowing changes the mind; or "increasing money
causes inflation" when increasing money fights inflation
Shift B.
Money has a hypnotic effect. We've been worshipping that
neat piece of metal that turned into a chocolate bar or ice
cream cone or anything I wanted, magic anything, and Jesus
said: they'll forever be hearing without hearing or seeing
without seeing or understanding USURY and he's so so right.
I can count on my fingers the number of people I've
motivated to fight back. It's too big. This won't be done by
masses who don't want to understand their ugly predicament.
Who wants to muse about whether the government is working
with the rich guys to keep the poor guys poorer? Ouch. Ugly.
Better just do one's best to survive and hope something good
happens.
What's funniest of all is all the money reformers out there
teaching people about the evils of banking, evils of the
FED, and none can preach: Print money to fight inflation
Shift B. Because they don't know about Shift B. they're all
taken in by the Big Lie of Economics hiding Shift B, the
meme that increasing money supply causes inflation. Big
names like Ron Paul, Kucinich, warring against the banks but
not being able to print any new paychecks because they've
accepted there's already too much money and that would cause
inflation. So no new paychecks for no new jobs. Though
they'll look for "jobs" for you, encourage "jobs,"
facilitate "jobs". When they say the main issue is "jobs,
you know they're clueless because you can't have a job
without a paycheck and it's not jobs needing to be done that
are lacking, it's paychecks to pay them with. So they don't
look to enable paychecks, they look for jobs for you.

JCT: Jay Fenello didn't let my post through but wrote back:

Jay Fenello: Hi John, You have stated a circular argument...
i.e. your wrong because the books I've seen don't agree with
you.
Jct: I bet you $20 you can't cite one book that says
interest paid is destroyed like loan principal paid is.

JF: If you want to debate my point, please respond to my
analogy, and answer how interest charged is created in the
money supply... Jay.

Jct: I never said interest charged is created in the money
supply. That's the problem, so you have that backward too.
Anyway, I bet $20 you can't cite one book.

JF: Hi John, You challenge is nonsensical. Why would any
book include my original thought. And just because it's
original, doesn't mean it's not true. Once again, if you
really want to enter into a dialog on this topic, you'll
need to do better than "show it to me in a book."
Original thoughts welcome...
Jct: You said: "the books I've seen don't agree with you." I
bet you to prove it with one book you have seen. Now you
back down. Fine.

E Christopher Carolan: Oh John, don't you know, if its not
in a Book... It can't be true!
Jct: That wasn't the point. He said he had books to prove I
was wrong. I bet I have books to prove I was right and could
not bet he had a book that said I was wrong. Then he
admitted he could not produce a book that said I was wrong
but song and danced how maybe I didn't win.

E Christopher Carolan: Well, I should have read into it a
little deeper. Good sorry none the less. And I have worked
through the logic of Shift B and find it to be true. And for
my excuse to not reading the story correctly, I was standing
in line at a taco stand. :D!
Jct: So how about being the second person in the world to
explain it to others online. I don't think anyone else in
the world can be found other than me talking about the
"Other Possibility." "Big Lie of Economics" finds it whether
text or video.

JCT: Jay Fenello didn't let my post through but tried
answering anyway:

Jay Fenello: Your quote of me is incorrect. Here's what I
wrote: "You have stated a circular argument... i.e. your
wrong because the books I've seen don't agree with you."
Jct: And I bet you were lying and you couldn't produce one
book and instead of producing one book to prove you weren't
lying, you censored my post.

JF: I wasn't saying you were wrong, I was restating your
argument as an example (that's what the "i.e." was for)."
Jct: You said you had books that said I was wrong. What else
is that but stating I was wrong? I bet you did not have any
such books. You backed down from the bet but censored your
humiliating retreat from the article.

JF: "Anyway, only thoughtful comments are posted to my
blog.'
Jct: I see. Someone says you're wrong and you can't prove
you're right, but that doesn't get in because that's not
thoughtful.

JF: "Your first one was allowed, but the rest of them have
been ad hominin.
Jct: My first one pointed out your errors and my second
challenged you when you said I was wrong. Use whatever
excuse you want for censoring my challenge at your site.
I've never ever had to censor any comment at my site because
I could defend myself, not like you promoting yourself as an
expert and hiding the truth when you're shown wrong.

JF: Again, if you have something original to say, feel free
to reply. Otherwise, don't bother. Thanks, Jay.
Jct: The censor inviting submissions? Har har har. Why
bother when you censored my winning arguments so far? Better
I post it at my Facebook wall and my USENET groups including
sci.econ where I believe we have crossed pens before and you
ran away then too.
You should be ashamed pontificating and then censoring when
you can't respond. At least the world is going to know about
your lies with respect to having books to prove The Engineer
was wrong. You did not and then hid the fact you could not
produce them. Bested once more by The Engineer. No amount of
hiding it is going to help and now you come across not only
as a pontificator of false information but a coward about
hiding it to boot. Now I have to go post a copy of
everything at usenet under "Jan Fenello cowards out by
censoring posts." Har har har har.

Anyway, nothing burns me more than a coward who says he can
prove I'm wrong and then won't. Especially when he has the
power to censor my winning arguments and does.

Jay Fenello, you're a coward and a crook pushing error onto
your readers.

JCT: Another wanna-be banking systems engineer pontificating
on how money works at Jay Fenello's blog at
http://tranzitioning.com/index.php where I read:

Money Creation
Printing Money
Borrowing Money

Destroying Money
Paying off Interest
Retiring Debts
Paying Taxes
Bankruptcy
Default
Summary
Today we've covered the assorted ways that money is created
and destroyed, the role of the U.S. Government in the
process, and why bankruptcy and default are built into the
system. Next time, we'll look at the National Debt Limit,
the role of the Federal Reserve, and alternatives and
consequences to our current system.  As always, comments
welcome. Until next time

JCT: So errs the professor. Har har har. I commented:

Jct: Paying interest and paying taxes does not retire money
from circulation. Only payment of loan principal does that.
See http://johnturmel.com/bankmath.htm of youtube for How
Banks Create Money

Jay Fenello: Considering my example above, after one year,
the person who borrowed $5 now owes $6. If they only pay the
$1 in interest, they still owe $5, but only $4 are left in
circulation. That $1 in interest has been effectively
retired... from the money supply.

JCT: I responded:

Jct: Check the plumbing and you'll see only payments of
principal go down the drain. Payments of interest are used
by the banks to pay their expenses and those funds are not
extinguished. How could they make it look like a piggy bank
if they destroyed the interest. Besides, why would they?
It's hard enough getting people to accept principal payments
get retired from circulation without trying to say the same
for interest. It's had enough they never printed the money
to match the interest creating a death-gamble but focusing
on something that is not the problem distracts from the real
solution, getting rid of the interest.
Anyway, I'd bet you'll find many statements in Economics
admitting the principal paid off gets destroyed but you
won't find any saying the interest gets destroyed. That's
what pays for the banking system, they say, so how could it
be destroyed?

JCT: My response he censored and did not put up.

E Christopher Carolan: Man John, you really have your head
wrapped around the Money Supply. Your a great thinker.

Jct: When I was first faced with Mammon's malfunctions, it
took me 40 days of thinking before I wrote in my journal:
"what would a world with no interest look like?" What would
a world run with poker chips by Donald Trump's casino
cashier l...ook like? And I could only see Heaven where now
see Hell. Except now, the first few thousand years of heaven
is going to be cleaning up the nuclear mess left by the last
crew running the planet, the Rothschild Gang of World
Banksters.
And I've found that money reformers who don't think in chips
almost all fail to see the Big Picture. I'm correcting
people 30 years later with analogies with chips showing how
silly the doubt was. People have an aversion to thinking in
term...s of poker chips, too simple maybe, and so keep
getting confused by Mammon's Memes. (ingrained big lies like
"everybody wants interest so I'll have to pay interest to
use money" when knowing it's not savings, it's new printings
we're borrowing changes the mind; or "increasing money
causes inflation" when increasing money fights inflation
Shift B.
Money has a hypnotic effect. We've been worshipping that
neat piece of metal that turned into a chocolate bar or ice
cream cone or anything I wanted, magic anything, and Jesus
said: they'll forever be hearing without hearing or seeing
without seeing or understanding USURY and he's so so right.
I can count on my fingers the number of people I've
motivated to fight back. It's too big. This won't be done by
masses who don't want to understand their ugly predicament.
Who wants to muse about whether the government is working
with the rich guys to keep the poor guys poorer? Ouch. Ugly.
Better just do one's best to survive and hope something good
happens.
What's funniest of all is all the money reformers out there
teaching people about the evils of banking, evils of the
FED, and none can preach: Print money to fight inflation
Shift B. Because they don't know about Shift B. they're all
taken in by the Big Lie of Economics hiding Shift B, the
meme that increasing money supply causes inflation. Big
names like Ron Paul, Kucinich, warring against the banks but
not being able to print any new paychecks because they've
accepted there's already too much money and that would cause
inflation. So no new paychecks for no new jobs. Though
they'll look for "jobs" for you, encourage "jobs,"
facilitate "jobs". When they say the main issue is "jobs,
you know they're clueless because you can't have a job
without a paycheck and it's not jobs needing to be done that
are lacking, it's paychecks to pay them with. So they don't
look to enable paychecks, they look for jobs for you.

JCT: Jay Fenello didn't let my post through but wrote back:

Jay Fenello: Hi John, You have stated a circular argument...
i.e. your wrong because the books I've seen don't agree with
you.
Jct: I bet you $20 you can't cite one book that says
interest paid is destroyed like loan principal paid is.

JF: If you want to debate my point, please respond to my
analogy, and answer how interest charged is created in the
money supply... Jay.

Jct: I never said interest charged is created in the money
supply. That's the problem, so you have that backward too.
Anyway, I bet $20 you can't cite one book.

JF: Hi John, You challenge is nonsensical. Why would any
book include my original thought. And just because it's
original, doesn't mean it's not true. Once again, if you
really want to enter into a dialog on this topic, you'll
need to do better than "show it to me in a book."
Original thoughts welcome...
Jct: You said: "the books I've seen don't agree with you." I
bet you to prove it with one book you have seen. Now you
back down. Fine.

E Christopher Carolan: Oh John, don't you know, if its not
in a Book... It can't be true!
Jct: That wasn't the point. He said he had books to prove I
was wrong. I bet I have books to prove I was right and could
not bet he had a book that said I was wrong. Then he
admitted he could not produce a book that said I was wrong
but song and danced how maybe I didn't win.

E Christopher Carolan: Well, I should have read into it a
little deeper. Good sorry none the less. And I have worked
through the logic of Shift B and find it to be true. And for
my excuse to not reading the story correctly, I was standing
in line at a taco stand. :D!
Jct: So how about being the second person in the world to
explain it to others online. I don't think anyone else in
the world can be found other than me talking about the
"Other Possibility." "Big Lie of Economics" finds it whether
text or video.

JCT: Jay Fenello didn't let my post through but tried
answering anyway:

Jay Fenello: Your quote of me is incorrect. Here's what I
wrote: "You have stated a circular argument... i.e. your
wrong because the books I've seen don't agree with you."
Jct: And I bet you were lying and you couldn't produce one
book and instead of producing one book to prove you weren't
lying, you censored my post.

JF: I wasn't saying you were wrong, I was restating your
argument as an example (that's what the "i.e." was for)."
Jct: You said you had books that said I was wrong. What else
is that but stating I was wrong? I bet you did not have any
such books. You backed down from the bet but censored your
humiliating retreat from the article.

JF: "Anyway, only thoughtful comments are posted to my
blog.'
Jct: I see. Someone says you're wrong and you can't prove
you're right, but that doesn't get in because that's not
thoughtful.

JF: "Your first one was allowed, but the rest of them have
been ad hominin.
Jct: My first one pointed out your errors and my second
challenged you when you said I was wrong. Use whatever
excuse you want for censoring my challenge at your site.
I've never ever had to censor any comment at my site because
I could defend myself, not like you promoting yourself as an
expert and hiding the truth when you're shown wrong.

JF: Again, if you have something original to say, feel free
to reply. Otherwise, don't bother. Thanks, Jay.
Jct: The censor inviting submissions? Har har har. Why
bother when you censored my winning arguments so far? Better
I post it at my Facebook wall and my USENET groups including
sci.econ where I believe we have crossed pens before and you
ran away then too.
You should be ashamed pontificating and then censoring when
you can't respond. At least the world is going to know about
your lies with respect to having books to prove The Engineer
was wrong. You did not and then hid the fact you could not
produce them. Bested once more by The Engineer. No amount of
hiding it is going to help and now you come across not only
as a pontificator of false information but a coward about
hiding it to boot. Now I have to go post a copy of
everything at usenet under "Jan Fenello cowards out by
censoring posts." Har har har har.

Anyway, nothing burns me more than a coward who says he can
prove I'm wrong and then won't. Especially when he has the
power to censor my winning arguments and does.

Jay Fenello, you're a coward and a crook pushing error onto
your readers.

Jct: Here's my final 12-line poem of the Gaudet Goodie:

Everyone should have the Gaudet Goodie memorized for when I
ask you at this weekend's Hemp Expo in Toronto to recite it
for the camera!

Crown Attorney Sean Gaudet to Supreme Court of Canada in
Sfetkopoulos v. Canada:

"[33] The Court in R. v. J.P. ruled that the combined effect
of Parker and Hitzig meant there was no constitutionally
valid marijuana possession offence between July 31 2001 and
Oct 7 2003, the date the MMAR were constitutionally
rectified by the decision in Hitzig.
Courts may construe the Federal Court of Appeal's decision
as creating a similar period of retrospective invalidity
dating back to December 3 2003, the date that s.41(b.1) was
re-introduced into the MMAR."

Or if you can do my Gaudet Goodie Song to your own tune:

The Crown Attorney, Sean Gaudet, to the Supreme Court said:
MMAR Exemption flaws make Prohibitions dead.
"The J.P. Court ruled "PARKER, HITZIG, had combined effect,
Possession while Exemption flawed, no guilt may we detect.
Since Two Oh Oh One Thirty First July and days betwixt,
Til in Two Oh Oh Three October Seventh Hitzig fixed.

Supreme Court BEREN, SFETKOPOULOS, did Exemption sack,
With HITZIG's Section 41 and 54 flaws back.
The period of retrospective invalidity,
Starts when the flaws were put back in, December 3rd 0 3."
8 years the Crowns knew prohibitions lacked validity,
Their crimes are "bogus prosecutions" continuity.

JCT: If you want to chop it up and add a refrain, say to to
the tune of Oh Susannah, or House of the Rising Sun, or lots
of 4/4 time music it could fit to.

So bring along your song so I can add it to my video I'll be
posting during this Expo.

But the least any true guerrilla lawyer can do is know the
Ace of Trumps inside out.

http://johnturmel.com/dragonsden.wmv has the whole King of the Dragons
slapping the brains of billionnaires Kevin O'Leary, W. Brett Wilson,
Robert Herjavec, Jim Treliving, Arlene Dickinson around the studio and
the 1-minute hatchet job by CBC editors for which I'm suing for breach
of contract and defamation.
Youtube 1st 15 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Sy-ofUG68

JCT: Sean Maloney from Montreal is a medical marijuana user
for scoliosis who found a doctor to sign his MMAR Exemption
Application for 18 grams a day after he was busted near
Ottawa with 570 grams of marijuana and hash and charged with
possession for the purpose of trafficking (32 days dosage).

His lawyer helped him plead guilty by getting him to go to
therapy for his marijuana addiction as it would look good at
sentencing but Judge Bordeleau, who's heard about the law
still being dead from me before but said the scoliosis was
irrelevant to the case and is making him finish the therapy
once a week for 8 week steps. The judge nor the lawyers had
not read Hitzig 170, "to establish medical need is simply to
be exempt" or heard of the Judge Chevalier's Johnny Dupuis
decision that if you prove sick now, you were exempt then.

Bordeleau sentenced him to 30 days in jail, on weekends, so
he could take care of his kids and try to hold down a job
the other days, and jailed him right away to help him make
his out-of-province arrangements. How thoughtful.

So Sean spent last weekend in jail and had to bus it to
Montreal on Sunday night then will have to bus it back to
Ottawa on Friday nights for the next 9 weeks.

I lived that stress from when I was convicted in the O.P.P.
Robin Hood Raid on Casino Turmel and I had to come back from
gambling in the US every second month to do 2 weeks of
accordion concerts then back on a 14-hour bus ride for 6
weeks at the work tables before home for 2 weeks of concerts
10 times too !

So here's a guy with a family and part-time work who's going
to end up crippled not only by his sickness now without
medicine but also by the crooked justice system.

Tomorrow, I'll show him how to file his Notice of Appeal and
ask the Ontario Court of Appeal tomorrow on short notice to
stay his sentence pending his appeal. Otherwise, he has to
go to jail later that evening. And we'll see if the judge
makes the sick guy get to the Ottawa jail that night.

So here's his day Friday. Interesting that the Hemp Expo is
also going on and we have a booth again this year
compliments of Marco Renda.

Motions court sits every day so like the time I faxed the
motion to the Crown and sent Terry in with a short notice
motion to gut their case and they intercepted him before he
could hand it to the clerk of the court, we're going to do
it the same.

Around 9am, he'll serve the Crown office at 130 King St. W.
his Notice of Appeal and his Application for Stay of
sentence on short notice on the grounds of a good case and
the severe hardship he'd have to endure otherwise.

Then we walk over to the courthouse, file the Notice of
Appeal and then bring the motion Record (stapled booklet) to
the clerk of the judge sitting in motions court that week
asking for an Order for an abridgment of time to hear the
motion on short notice now that the Notice of Appeal is
filed.

The grounds are the dire facts of the case.

It should be a great show on opening Expo Day. If you're in
town, you should try to make it, 10am 130 Queen St. W
Osgoode Hall.

If his sentence is stayed, Sean gets to go to Hemp Expo and
if not, straight to jail in Ottawa that evening.

Think any Toronto media might find it interesting? It would
put some pressure on the judge to let him go. Call them up
and tell them the story.

The guy's going to get an exemption for 18 grams a day, more
than an ounce per two days, and is being charged with
possessing to traffic with only 32 days worth? Give us a
break.

10am Osgoode Hall, 4 blocks North of the Hemp Expo on
University Ave.

JCT: In yesterday's article: "Maloney avoids jail in Court of
Appeal tomorrow?" I introduced you to Sean Maloney's problems
from prohibition.

So here's the motion I wrote for him for use once we'd filed
his Notice of Appeal.

Court File No. _________
N1
                   COURT OF APPEAL FOR ONTARIO
Between:
                  ___________________________
                                             Appellant/Accused
                              and
                     Her Majesty the Queen
                                          Respondent/Plaintiff

              NOTICE OF APPLICATION ON SHORT NOTICE
               FOR STAY OF SENTENCE PENDING APPEAL

TAKE NOTICE that on Friday Jun 3, 2011, 10:00am in the
courthouse at Osgoode Hall, 130 Queen St. W., in Toronto,
Appellant will make an application to the presiding judge for
an Order staying Appellants sentence pending his appeal.

THE GROUNDS ARE that the Appellant was unaware when convicted
that the MMAR exemption had been found flawed twice in the
Supreme Court of Canada Sfetkopoulos and Beren decisions and
pursuant to the Ontario Court of Appeals J.P. decision, no
offence exists absent a constitutionally acceptable medical
exemption.

A) Since Dec 3 2003, MMAR Flaws Re-introduction Day:

1. In the Crown's 2009 unsuccessful application for leave to
appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada against the Federal
Court of Appeal finding in Sfetkopoulos of a constitutional
flaw in S.41(b.1) of the MMAR (Marihuana Medical Access
Regulations), Sean Gaudet admitted:
"[33] The Court in R. v. J.P. ruled that the combined effect
of Parker and Hitzig meant there was no constitutionally
valid marijuana possession offence between July 31 2001 and
Oct 7 2003, the date the MMAR were constitutionally rectified
by the decision in Hitzig. Courts may construe the Federal
Court of Appeal's decision as creating a similar period of
retrospective invalidity dating back to December 3 2003, the
date that s.41(b.1) was re-introduced into the MMAR."

2. With the dismissal of the Crown's recent 2010 application
for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada against
the BC Court of Appeal finding another constitutional flaw in
S.54(1) of the MMAR, Appellant asks the court to also construe
the R. v. Beren decision as creating a similar period of
retrospective invalidity dating back to December 3 2003, the
date that s.54(1) was re-introduced into the MMAR with S.41.

3. The Sfetkopoulos [2009] and Beren [2010] decisions at the
Supreme Court of Canada have found that the reintroduction of
two of the constitutional flaws into in the MMAR (S.41(b.1) &
S.54(1)) which J.P. ruled had invalidated the CDSA prohibition
in the Parker-Hitzig period to have once again invalidated the
CDSA over the past 6 years in the Parker-Sfetkopoulos period
if the fears of Crown Sean Gaudet are right. Appellant was
charged while the MMAR exemption was flawed. Appellant urges
the Court to follow the decision of the Ontario Court of
Appeal in J.P. that when the exemption is flawed, the
prohibition is invalid.

B) Since Aug 1 2001 Terry Parker Invalidation Day

4. In R. v. J.P., Ontario Court Justice Phillips and Superior
Court Justice Rogin both found that the R v. Parker [2000]
invalidation of the CDSA marijuana possession prohibition had
taken effect on Aug. 1 2001 due to failure of the MMAR to
provide a constitutional exemption before then and following
S.2(2) of the Interpretation Act, ruled that laws struck down
by the courts are "to be deemed repealed." The Ontario Court
of Appeal accepted the possession prohibition had been struck
down after July 31 2001 but rejected that it had been
repealed pursuant to the Interpretation Act, ordering that
the struck-down law be deemed only "absent a constitutionally
valid medical exemption" from the MMAR which they had just
amended to render the CDSA prohibition no longer absent.
Parliament Only Legislates, courts Only Abrogate. POLCOA.
Parliament's Interpretation Act to deem the prohibition
repealed and never re-enacted should be obeyed and the
Ontario Court of Appeal J.P. ruling to deem the prohibition
absent and now judicially-resurrected should be disobeyed.
Appellant urges the court to ignore J.P. and rule the CDSA
prohibitions not absent but deemed to be repealed.

5. The CDSA S.4(1) possession prohibition became invalid on
Aug 1 2001 Terry Parker Invalidation Day and remains
repealed; or became re-valid Oct 7 2003 on J.P. Resurrection
Day but then became invalid once again on Dec 3 2003 Health
Canada Flaw-Re-Introduction Day when two previously-declared
constitutional deficiencies were re-introduced into the MMAR.

AND FOR AN ORDER abridging the time for service and filing of
the motion for stay of sentence pending appeal.

AND FOR any Order abridging the time for service, filing, or
hearing of the application, or amending any defect as to form
or content of the application, or for any Order deemed just.

THE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE will be Appellant's Affidavit.
PROPOSED METHOD OF HEARING is oral.
Dated at ________________ on _______________, 200__.
TO: The Registrar of the Ontario Court of Appeal
AND TO: Attorney General for Canada


                           AFFIDAVIT

I, Sean William Maloney, residing at_______________________

_____________________________________________________________

in _________________________ make oath as follows:

1. I was unaware when convicted that the MMAR exemption had
been found flawed twice in the Supreme Court of Canada
Sfetkopoulos and Beren decisions and pursuant to the Ontario
Court of Appeals J.P. decision, no offence exists absent a
constitutionally acceptable medical exemption.

2. I was also unaware of Quebec Judge Chevalier in R. v.
Dupuis accepting proof of medical need even when Health Canada
refused to exempt as falling under Hitzig Paragraph 170 to
simply be exempt. I have finally found a doctor to sign my
MMAR application and will raise this precedent.

3. I pleaded guilty to possession of marijuana for the purpose
of trafficking under S.5(4)and was sentenced by Judge
Bordeleau on May 27 2001 to 30 days interim sentence on
weekends and 12 more months probation after sentence is
completed.

4. I was immediately incarcerated and suffered excessively in
my weekend in jail without my medicine. My wife and two
children also suffered by my incarceration.

5. I hold a job between 30 and 40 hours, I take care of my two
children 5 days a week.

6. I now have to go to drug therapy once a week in Montreal,
to take the bus to Ottawa on Friday evenings and then take the
bus back Sunday night at a cost I cannot afford. I am curfewed
and can only go out from 6am-9pm week-days, 6am-12am weekends.

6. The inconvenience and suffering on me and my family to have
me serve the sentence given my medical need with the appeal
pending of the constitutionality of the prohibition on my
medicine would be unconscionable.


Signature: ______________________________________

Sworn before me at ______________________
on _____________________ 20___


_______________________________
A COMMISSIONER, ETC.

JCT: I can only tell you it was a fun day.
We got the master form filled out by around 8:45
Got to Staples around 9am, printed out the 1st copy.
Walked to the courthouse next door and asked a gent
if he could commission Sean's oath, yes, back 5 minutes
later at Staples to print out the other 5 copies.
Over to King St. to serve the Crown.
I'm up in their office around 9:30 and the lady who comes to
accept service tells me she'll sign for the Notice of Appeal
but not for the Motion to Stay the Sentence. Why not? We have
to give 7 days notice. "Not when you ask the judge for "short
notice." Didn't matter.
No problem,. The back page has a small affidavit of service, I
gave her a copy of the motion record and said you're served.
I'll swear it myself.
AT the courthouse, Sean filed his 3 Notices of Appeal. Then I
found another suit to sign my oath of service on the back of
the Record Motion I had served.

Then into the courtroom to see the judge.
The clerk came to find out we had a short notice motion, got
us to fill out a motion slip with name of case and counsel
arguing it. There were only two other cases and when they were
over Madam Justice Cronk asked us what it was about. I
explained I'd prepared his documentation so he could explain
his motion for an Order permitting short notice to explain his
predicament.

Sean took a few minutes to explain his situation, then she
said the Crown office had been contacted and they'd be there
within the hour. So she'd adjourn til then.

When Nick Devlin came in, he served me with his precedents
ready to fight but after learning of Sean's predicament, said
he'd consent to release pending the sentence appeal which
might have merit.

Later when he had been asked to suggest conditions, he asked
Sean if he had any money to pledge, Sean explained that the
OPP had forced him to post it as bail and were returning it
but hadn't yet arrived. He just gave up that line and said
"be good" and that's it.

The Justice of the Peace signing Sean's undertaking said it
was the first "no money" bail order he'd ever seen in 35
years! Even the Crown Attorney Nick Devlin who had come in
with my two losses: the Turmel and Martin  to fight with,
relented and consented to no money bail given the
circumstances! With Crown consent. Nice.

Interview with Sean posted at Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI4Bifz9_tg

Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJ5WjkgQRY
http://johnturmel.com/hempexpo2011.wmv
Speech explaining the Bad Exemption = No Offence argument. BENO

Doctors who sign MMAR Exemptions and not

http://johnturmel.com/doctors.htm has the lists generated by either
sending the doctor's name and town and province to
mmardoctorsandnot@yahoogroups.com
or to johnturmel@... if you would rather stay anonymous.

First list after the Toronto Treating Yourself Hemp Expo 2011

Doctor who have done their research and will sign MMAR form to
offer herbal as well as orthodox chemical treatment.

BC, Duncan, Dr. Gooch;
BC, Duncan, Dr. Dunlop;

BC, Kelowna, Donoharm Clinic;

ON, Coehill, Dr. Kamerman;
ON, Fort Erie, Dr. Kamatovic;
ON, Hamilton, Dr. Dhydderch;
ON, London, Dr. Mitter*, *maximum 5g/d;
ON, Sarnia, Dr. Glen Madison;
ON, Sarnia, Dr. Lau;
ON, St. Catherines, Dr. G. Fitzpatrick;
ON, St. Catherines, Dr. Lennox;
ON, Toronto, Dr. Saul*, *maximum 9g/d;
ON, Toronto, Dr. Latowsky;
ON, Toronto, Dr. G. Kovacs;

SA, Prince Albert, Dr. Landwa;

Doctors who won't do research and will not sign MMAR forms
so don't waste their time or your time. :

AB, Calgary, Dr. Fred Zapasnik;

ON, Ayr, Dr. Vlaar;
ON, Brantford, Dr. Bannister;
ON, Brantford, Dr. Spicer;
ON, Burlington, Dr. Wania;
ON, Fort Erie, Dr. Patricia Teal;
ON, Hamilton, Dr. Yar;
ON, Lindsay, Dr. Eric Ready;
ON, St. Catherines, Dr. Henry;
ON, Windsor, Dr. Ahmed Zhaker;
ON, Hawkesbury, Dr. Landa;
ON, Niagara Falls, Dr. J. Gill;
ON, Peterborough, Dr. D. O'Hara;
ON, Richmond Hill, Dr. Joel Eisen;
ON, Sarnia, Dr. Ajayi-Obe;
ON, Sudbury, Dr. MaCalum;
ON, Toronto, Dr. Mary MacDonald;
ON, Welland, Dr. De Wet;
ON, Welland, Dr. O'Donnell;
ON, Windsor, Dr. Viel;
ON, Windsor, Dr. Chuck Smith;
ON, Windsor, Dr. Patrick Smith;
ON, Windsor, Dr. Viel;
ON, , Dr. Francois Theoret;

QU, Boisbriand, Dr. Suzanne Lalonde;

JCT: Wayne Robinson has a friend in Simcoe Louis Howard
who applied for a marijuana exemption in August before he
was busted in September.

He's been remanded over and over for a year so this time,
Wayne prepared his Quash kit and they served it on the Crown
yesterday for hearing today!

The Crown originally told the judge there were flaws in it and he
offered to give Louis an "absolute discharge" in writing to the
Duty Counsel if he would just plead guilty to possession.

Louis went to see the Legal Aid Lawyer who informed him he
didn't qualify because he wasn't facing any jail; so later
back in court, the Crown couldn't show anything wrong with
the motion and the judge said he was going to have to deal
with it. Adjourned to July 5 2011. The BENO defence in action.

So an absolute discharge was offered by the Crown
(that means no punishment, no criminal record, it's
absolutely discharged) and Louis refused! He wants
his pot back like the Derek Franisco precedent. Wow.
That's confidence.

JCT: Yesterday, I told you about Louis Howard refusing to
take an Absolute Discharge if he'd just plead guilty to
possession because he knew Bad Exemption means No Offence.

Despite Crown objections, the judge found the Record of
Application to Quash the charge on the BENO argument was
properly done and ordered its hearing July 5 2011.

Today, Wayne Robinson called to say Louis's Crown had left a
message that given the medical circumstances, they were
withdrawing the charges.

They're contacting the Crown to get a date as soon as
possible and I think this withdrawal I'm going to cover even
if no other media show up. Another not-loss for the BENO
argument. Remember, no judge has yet accepted BENO even
though many judges have accepted that there had been a BE
Bad Exemption for the past 8 years.

I'm finishing up the video of my french translation of my
BENO video for my DEPO Defectueuse Exemption = Pas d'Offence
in French. BENO = DEPO. Could have been DENO = DEPO if I'd
thought of Defective Exemption = No Offence but how that the
video is out there, we're stuck with BENO. Besides, BENO is
funnier than DENO.

I'll let you know when the Crown will withdraw Louis
Howard's charges if anyone wants to join me in Simcoe
partying out latest non-loss.

What's great about BENO is that it leaves the blame on the
Crown Attorneys who did not drop all the charges this time
they lost like they dropped the 4,000 charges the last time
they lost against the same two patient-gardener limits.

And all those sick people who pleaded guilty and have been
punished can still apply to have their convictions and
sentences overturned and their stuff returned. Har har har.

I've lost count of how many have beaten their charges with
BENO but after having boasted repeatedly how they'll
withdraw if they find out you know about BENO, to have BENO
get a charge withdrawn in the very next week, right after
MedPot Maloney got Free Bail, it's been one great time.

And Parker's perfected and McCrady's appeals are coming up
in Ontario's highest court before Maloney's. And McCrady's
appeal on 40 MMAR flaws subsumes Mernagh's appeal on one.

Wow, what a wild week for our medpot team.
Maloney win. Hemp Expo to brag about it and how we get
charges withdrawn. Get Louis Howard's charges withdrawn in 2
days!

Actually, it just tells me they've got a pretty sharp Crown
to see the Ace of Sfetkopoulos, Ace of Beren, Queen of
Mernagh, and decide fighting with a legitimately medically
needy accused can't pay off.

Especially when he's a guerrilla lawyer explaining the BENO
defence on his own. Now he can just tell the judge to
youtube for Bad Exemption to find out how Bad Exemption = No
Offence works.

Now I have to add a new segment to my French translation of
the boasting of getting charges withdrawn in the past at
Hemp Expo telling them about winning another one just now.
Oh, not losing another one, because them giving up doesn't
count as a win. It's a win when they fight back and lose,
not when they don't fight back and give up.

Of the over 2 dozen non-loser combats in recent years, this
one has to have been the shortest. File the motion to quash
because BENO and find out charges are being withdrawn 2 days
later. I think 2 days to get surrender is a record.

I told them to try to get in front of a judge as soon as
possible. After all, this is a record so far.

20110609 Crown withdrawing Louis Howard medpot charges Jun 14
http://johnturmel.com/howard1.wmv Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kfql229rws
Interview with Wayne Robinson who helped Louis Howard prepare and file
his BENO (Bad Exemption = No Offence) Quash Application on Monday and
witnessed the proceedings. Louis applied for MMAR exemption before but
got it after being busted. On Tuesday, the Crown offered an absolute
discharge for a guilty plea of mere possession but Louis held out for
withdrawal or quash by judge, no guilt. On Thursday, the Crown
informed Howard they will withdraw charges next Tuesday Jun 14.

20110609 DEPO "Defectueuse Exemption = Pas d'Offence" a Treating
Yourself Hemp Expo 2011 at Toronto
Pourquoi il n'y  a Pas d'Offence contre la marijuana quand il y a une
Defectueuse Exemption DEPO depuis Dec 3 2003.
http://johnturmel.com/depo.wmv Youtube 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH9xOqcsx7M
2/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-n037WUtsQ

20110606 BENO "Bad Exemption = No Offence"  to Treating Yourself Hemp
Expo 2011
http://johnturmel.com/hempexpo2011.wmv Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJ5WjkgQRY

20110603 Justice Cronk grants Sean Maloney Bail pending appeal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI4Bifz9_tg
Montreal medical marijuana user Sean Maloney was convicted after
getting his prescription signed for 18gm/day by a doctor and sentenced
to 30 days on weekends in Ottawa and after spending 1 weekend jailed,
his motion for release on bail pending appeal was granted for no
bail.

JCT: I've just done a video interview with Wayne Robinson
about his adventure in legal combat with my BENO artillery
and will post it soon. But he says that Louis will be back
in court to have his charge withdrawn next Tuesday Jun 14.

Now, to help get the message out to other sick who have been
charged, to those sob stories we've heard of slow
exemptions, but still sentenced to various punishments, I
think it's time that we have a demonstration in support of
the Crown who is withdrawing the charges against a proven
sick person.

The Crown Attorney is the hero of this piece and we'd like
every Crown Attorney to do the same with only 3 days study.
The Crowns who want to fight it because BENO hasn't won in
other places, "look at all the courts who accepted BE but
did not accept NO, so it must be so."

So I'm calling on Exemptees who enjoy protests to come out
to this one. I'm trying to arrange accommodations for those
who'd like to stay over for the party. It'll cost you a
night back in your hometown.

If just the exemptees who have been sentenced start
appealing because Busted Exemption = No Busting, and every
person charged who has medical need finds out BENO, end of
game.

Remember how I said getting Sean Maloney in front of a judge
on opening day of Treating Yourself with Marijuana Expo was
a chance I had to jump at to make spectacular news.

If we have a gang of Exemptees applauding the Crown
Attorneys who drop the charges, that's going to make the
news. Rather than the usual carping at Health Canada, it's
celebrating the work of the Justice System.

This is a golden opportunity get the BENO message out at a
winning celebration.

Come on now, everyone seems able to go to the Toronto party
or the Ottawa party and parties in between. How about coming
to the Simcoe party.

And I'm going to see about organizing accommodations-
swapping so people can come the night before or stay on the
party night.

And let's make a few "We like the Crown Attorney" signs.

Simcoe's half an hour south-west of Brantford which is an
hour west of Toronto.

Sure, you've been to many protests and losing events but
when was the last time you got to go to a winning event?

JCT: I've read Muammar Gaddafi's Green Book onto videos at
youtube and I wrote this poem trying to put the invasion in
perspective. So now I've added another 6 lyrics with  *.



Obama, Harper, Cameron, Sarkozy if they can,
Will kill Gathafi's bad example, kill the honest man.
Unlike dictators West supports who steal from all with stealth.
No thief is Muammar, he's loved for sharing oily wealth.

*He made them own homes, cars, and tools, free-market to the test,
*Mixed in with public services, at socialism's best.
He built a lot of hospitals with health care given free,
With schools for education, home and foreign, pay no fee.

Though Man-Made River Great he built, no tax to worry heads,
No interest on loans and $50 Grand to newly-weds.
*He gave up power to the People's Conferences new.
*Where all could speak their minds; a chance, here, only for the few.

With UN Human Rights the best, what are complaints about?
Paid malcontents by CIA are only ones who shout.
By showing up our leaders as failures that they are,
To blow his earthly heaven up is reason why they war.

*"Protect civilians from attack" United Nations said,
*A "No-fly zone" turned to bombardment making many dead.

JCT: Pretty good, eh, everyone owned their own stuff! They
couldn't rent their homes, they had to own!

When you think of the wonderful little piece of heaven he
had built for his people, it's nauseating to think of our
failed leaders blowing up his winning system! Goes to show
that no matter how much you do for your people, the CIA can
always find someone to sell out their country and bring
devastation down upon it. These traitors should be taking
center stage pretty soon shaking Barack Obomber's hand of
endorsement. Cameron, Sarkozy, Harper, signing hands with
those who brought the bombardment down on their People's
Conferences. Soon, their pictures on TV, spokesmen for those
disenchanted with the Libya as it was to help it be
destroyed. Soon on TV. Applauded by the US Congress, no
doubt. The Canadian Parliament.