JCT: Why can we have nuclear power and not Iran?
Why did the UN ban for Iran and not Canada, France, Germany,
Israel?

I just wish that every time they say "want to push Israel
into the sea" or "wipe Isreal off the map" that they would
add "push the guys with nuclear weapons into the sea," or
"wipe the guys with nuclear weapons off the map."

Oh right, Israel denies having nukes so everyone must go
along and pretend they don't and take the silly threats
seriously.

Goes to show how the UN is controlled by hypocrite forces
for it to bar Iran from doing what so many others may do. As
Iran is saying, it's an unfair, illegal, UN order. Still,
with other financial and political weapons at their
disposal, plus plenty of oil, nuclear energy is one thing I
wish they weren't so in a rush to have, especially with a
genocidal lunatic with his finger on the button who already
has the souls of hundreds of thousands or Arabs and 3000
Americans from the false-flag 911 attack by the US on its
own people to foment war.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: This is one of the most intriguing articles I've read
in a long time.

http://www.brojon.org/DigestArchives/060522.html
GLOBAL WARMING FRAUD EVIDENCE

The Scientific Proof and NOT Conjecture and Debate

There is NO scientific evidence that the earth is
experiencing global warming. On the contrary, the actual
evidence shows a slight global cooling over the last
century. The propaganda and the new "Al Gore" global-warming
movie actually prove the "cooling theory."

Glaciers and polar ice caps represent millions of tons of
ocean water which have been lifted high into the atmosphere
and then falls as rain and snow in cold regions such as high
mountains and the polar regions.

From where does that tremendous energy come to lift those
tons of water to the cold regions of earth? It comes from
extra heating from the sun in the form of warmer oceans.

Ice ages are caused by extra solar output which warms the
oceans, lifting the warm equatorial water to the cold polar
regions and mountain tops, which then becomes solid ice.
Increased glaciation is caused by global warming.

Decreased glaciation is caused by global cooling. When the
oceans become cooler, there is less water evaporated into
the atmosphere to become glaciers and ice caps. This is a
global "drought" of snow and rain which is caused by a
cooling cycle on the sun.

This happens in a regular solar cycle. The thinning of ice
caps and disappearing glaciers on mountain tops are caused
by the ocean cooling and resulting less snow, and NOT by
warmer air temperatures melting the ice. A few degrees rise
in the global air temperature will have no effect on the
melting rate of thick glaciers and polar ice caps.

There is just not enough heat energy in slightly warmer air
temperatures to change the melting rates of millions of tons
of glacial ice which is hundreds or thousands of feet thick.
The air in the atmosphere is a thin gas which holds a lot
less heat energy per cubic foot than does a cubic foot of
solid glacier ice. Put a cubic foot of hot air and a cubic
foot of solid ice in a closed box, and the ice will cool the
air to freezing long before the warm air will melt the ice.
That scientific fact is why refrigerators work.

The whole concept of "global warming" and "greenhouse gases"
is fraudulent science meant to confuse the public and even
scientists who are not trained in the logic of global
entropy. These people are easily fooled by false stories
that slightly warmer air temperatures will cause glaciers to
"melt." Al Gore has been fooled and is attempting to fool
you, simply for political reasons.

Al Gore's new movie showing decreasing mountain glaciers is
proof of the lack of any new snow on the glaciers caused by
global cooling, and not global warming.

Along with the disappearing snows on Mt. Kilimanjaro is the
nearby decades-long spreading drought in sub-Saharan Africa.
Both ongoing drought conditions are caused by the same
slight cooling of the oceans in the last several decades.

You can now prove with scientific evidence to your doubting
friends that the theories of "global warming" and
"greenhouse gases" are complete scientific frauds.

The 30-year long promotion of the false theories of "global
warming" and "greenhouse gas" are simply a ploy by the
world's big oil companies to raise oil prices by attempting
to limit the supply of oil.

The false claim is that by limiting oil production and use,
the world will be saved from "global warming disaster." It
is a complete fraud designed to steal your money, to make
you poorer and the oil companies wealthier...

Marshall Smith
Editor, Brother Jonathan Gazette
newseditor@...

JCT: Anyone want to try to counter this?



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: Today's news brings Canada another upcoming funeral for
one of Canada's invading soldiers. Braun killed by a suicide
bomber.

An innocent suicide bomber. The Taliban didn't do 911, the
Bush administration did, so the Afghani suicide bomber was
an innocent soul giving his life to kill an invader. A
Canadian invader.

Of course, the Canadian soldier sent into Canada's first war
of aggression, a war crime, was sent by Parliament. So
Canada's M.P.s are responsible for Canada's first war crime
and it sounds like Guy Lauzon, Tory M.P. for
Stormont_Dundas_South Glengarry doesn't like hearing the
truth:

>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:16:27 -0400
>To: turmel@...
>From: Lauzon.G@... ("Lauzon, Guy - M.P.")
>Subject: RE: TURMEL: Canadian invaders ambush 72 innocent
Taliban defenders

Dear Mr. Turmel, Please be advised that I have blocked you
from sending any further correspondence to this office.
Regards, Aaron Hynes
Legislative Assistant
Office of Guy Lauzon, M.P. 613-992-2524

JCT: "Your mail is censored, Regards."??? I guess we can bet
that Guy Lauzon voted to send our boys to chase the Taliban
after what they did to Canada and doesn't like being
reminded they not only did nothing to Canada, they also did
nothing to Amerika. It's an inconvenient truth for those who
insist we stay they course whose destination they do not
want to look toward.

Speaking of how Osama isn't responsible for the 911 razing
of 3 sky-scrapers with two plane-loads of gasoline, on this
very same date:

>Subject: [catapult] Digest Number 1886
>Sheen Movie To Portray Rodriguez 9/11 Heroism
>Posted by: "shaman_nation" edward19@... shaman_nation
>Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:15 pm (PDT)

Sheen Movie To Portray Rodriguez 9/11 Heroism
PHILIP RECCHIA / New York Post | August 21 2006

PR: The next 9/11 tale to hit the silver screen could be
that of a World Trade Center janitor whose heroism helped
save hundreds of lives. William Rodriguez says he is in
talks with actors Charlie Sheen and Esai Morales to turn his
riveting story into a feature film - and a top writer-
director, David Marconi, is already involved in the project.

JCT: Charlie Sheen doesn't believe in a gasoline fire
melting steel either while Rodriguez is the guy who
testified he heard bombs. It didn't make the 911 report.

PR: In a strange twist on the usual 9/11-hero tale,
Rodriguez had pursued a federal lawsuit charging that the
Sept. 11 attacks were a conspiracy orchestrated by President
Bush to justify wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

JCT: I guess he's an American who doesn't blame the Taliban
for 911 either.

PR: But the lawsuit, which named Bush and 54 other
government officials and agencies, was dismissed in June.
And Marconi says the film would be a straightforward tale of
heroism.

JCT: I'd rather hear about the suit, considering how the
injustice system works.

PR: Responsible for cleaning the stairwells of the north
tower, Rodriguez - a 20-year veteran custodial staffer - had
the only available master key to the WTC complex when the
first hijacked plane struck. He led firefighters up floor
after floor, unlocking doors and aiding rescue efforts. But
when he got to the 39th floor, the second plane hit and he
was forced to evacuate.

JCT: The second plane hitting the other building forced him
to evacuate?

PR: The last person to escape the tower before it collapsed,
Rodriguez was buried under the rubble for an hour before
being rescued. Rodriguez met Sheen, Morales and Marconi last
month at a 9/11 conference in Los Angeles. "Charlie told me,
'I'd be honored to turn your story into a movie,' "
Rodriguez said.
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/August2006/210806_b_Rodriguez.htm
Dei Jurum Conventus
Ed Ward, MD; http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/arc_ward.htm
Independent writer/Media Liaison for The Price of Liberty;
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/

JCT: Funny that the article doesn't mention the most
fascinating that makes his story special.

Finally, again, in today's news:

>Putting the Iraq War on Trial
>Posted by: "John Churchilly" meso999@... meso999
>Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:19 pm (PDT)

An Army officer who refused duty in Iraq goes to court with
a novel argument: he had a duty to disobey because the war
is illegal
By ELI SANDERS/SEATTLE
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1228779,00.html
Posted Friday, Aug. 18, 2006

JCT: Since Osama didn't do 911, since Saddam Hussein
certainly didn't, he won't participate in a war of
aggression and ain't no "I was obeying orders" tool.

ES: When he refused to deploy to Iraq in June, Army Lt.
Ehren Watada said he was following his conscience and
upholding his duty not to obey illegal orders.

JCT: And he gets to not die while being a righteous hero.
They should elect him to something, fast.

ES: But that didn't impress military officials, who promptly
charged him with violating Army rules and sent him on a path
toward a likely court-martial.

JCT: Wonderful, a soap-box to question the morality of the
911 invasions.

ES:In doing so, they set up an unusual collision between a
man who is believed to be the first officer to refuse duty
in Iraq and a military justice system that is now
effectively being asked to rule on the war's legality.

JCT: Yes. And Lt. Watada gets credit for leading the charge
against an illegal war of aggression. Hope some Captain
Canuck takes up the fight real soon.

ES: In a packed hearing room on this Army base south of
Seattle Thursday, lawyers for Lt. Watada used the
opportunity to put the war itself on trial, trying to prove
he was right to see the war as "manifestly illegal," and as
a result, to refuse to participate. "A soldier has an
obligation to disobey illegal orders," said Francis Boyle, a
Harvard-trained professor of international law who testified
on behalf of Lt. Watada and whose mentor wrote the Army's
field manual for land warfare. "Under the circumstances of
this war, if he had deployed, he would have been
facilitating a Nuremberg crime against peace."

JCT: Bingo.

ES: Boyle, along with a former United Nations
Undersecretary-General and a retired army colonel, argued
that the U.S. decision to attack Iraq in 2003 without U.N.
authorization made the war illegal from the beginning.

JCT: The Iraq invasion was based on the Bush lie about Weapons
of Mass Destruction. The Afghanistan invasion was based on
the Bush lie that Arabs tricked the Air Force to stand down
and demolished the 3 buildings that engineers had already
condemned as too expensive to repair. The towers had to be
demolished anyway so whoever did "pull" the buildings down
not only saved the owner from a major demolition job but
also scored the billionaire owner all the insurance. How
fortunate for him!

ES: He went further, arguing that the failure of the Bush
Administration to find either weapons of mass destruction or
a provable link between Iraq and the Sept. 11 attacks showed
that Congress was persuaded "by means of fraud" when it
voted to authorize the war.

JCT: America's Congress was persuaded by fraud. Canada's
Parliament was persuaded how? Guy Lauzon M.P. doesn't want
to be asked.

ES:Lt. Watada, 28, is from Honolulu and was part of a
Stryker unit that deployed to Iraq on June 22, without him.

JCT: Good for him. Not only does he not help the bad guys in
their illegal invasion but he's challenging the bad guys in
their illegal invasion! He's got a better case for no
evidence of the Taliban in the 911 pull-down.

ES: He joined the Army after Sept. 11 and initially served
in South Korea, where he received stellar marks from his
superiors.

JCT: A bright boy too who won't kill any innocent invadees.

ES: As recently as last summer he was willing to go to Iraq.
But the more he learned about the war, the more doubts he
had, according to his public statements. In January, after
he became convinced that the war was illegal, he tried to
resign rather than go to Iraq, but the Army wouldn't let him
do so. As a compromise, he asked to be sent instead to
Afghanistan, a war he supports. His request was not granted.

JCT: Har har har har har har. They could have avoided their
problem over the illegal WMD invasion as he would have
joined the illegal 911 invasion! Perhaps only until he
became convinced his government lied about the Osama's
Taliban doing 911.

ES: At the hearing yesterday, a precursor to a court-martial
known as an "Article 32 hearing" - Watada sat calmly in his
fatigues, gave no statement, and during breaks answered no
questions from the many reporters gathered to watch the
proceedings. However, military prosecutors played several
clips of Lt. Watada speaking in public about his reasons for
not deploying.
In one clip, from a Veterans for Peace convention held last
weekend in Seattle, Watada explained that he is trying to
put forward a "radical idea" first born during the Vietnam
War. "The idea is this," he said. "That to stop an illegal
and unjust war, the soldiers and service members can choose
to stop fighting it."

JCT: I think I'd have made the same winning move if they'd
grabbed me when I was a soldier at Camp Petawawa and said I
was going to war over a lie.

ES: That, prosecutors said, is exactly what they most fear.
To give credence to Lt. Watada's argument, they said, would
create a breakdown in military order and discipline. "It's
just dangerous in our Army to allow that to happen," said
Capt. Dan Kuecker, one of the prosecutors.

JCT: Same problem those hung at Nurember had. At least Bush
is around to blame, Hitler took the easy way out.

ES: Whether the war is legal, he said, "is not a decision
for a lieutenant to make, it's a decision for politicians
and legislators."

JCT: It's not up to soldiers to know why they are killing
people, it's enough politicians and legislators tell them
to. Not in this case. And soon, I'd bet, many more.

ES: Watada's behavior, Capt. Kuecker told the hearing, "is
dishonorable and it is disgraceful." Lt. Col. Mark Keith,
who presided over the proceeding, is expected to decide
within the next few days whether to recommend a court-
martial for Lt. Watada. If one takes place, and Watada is
convicted, he could face up to seven years in prison.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1228779,00.html

JCT: Lt. Col. Mark Keith may say that not obeying an order
to kill in an illegal war is "dishonorable and disgraceful"
but Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said:

"A Time Comes When Silence Is Betrayal."

If you do not believe Osama and the Taliban could have done
911, letting our stalwart Canadian boys be placed in harm's
way for another Bush lie means the time has come when
Silence is Betrayal.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: Way back in 2001, my second Federal Court Medpot
Warrior was Marc Paquette, an exemptee who was being
stressed by Health Canada snail-mailing out his renewed
exemption only after his old one had expired. I prepared a
Federal Court Section 28 Judicial Review Application asking
for an on-time exemption process and Health Canada rushed
him an exemption before before being chastised by Justice
Rouleau for their tardiness with an Order for $150 for
Marc's expenses!

Those reports are at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/

MARCH 2001:
Marijuana Exemptee fights Health Canada in Fed Court 3/14
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/25

Marijuana Exemptee v. Health Canada article in Le Droit 3/15
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/26

Health Canada fined for Marijuana Exemption Delays 3/16
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/27

Paquette Federal Court Pre-Win Press (francais too) 3/18
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/28

Paquette Federal Court Win Press (francais) 3/18
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/30

CBC News on Internet 3/19
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/31

Paquette asks Judge to censure Health Canada 3/26
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/35

NB: MedPot works, medpot doesn't. Yahoogroups decided to
make their addresses case sensitive. Stupid since it makes
all old addresses useless, much like Yahoo operators. They
call it "improved message search."

So Marc belongs to a group of exemptees and some have been
having problems getting their renewals on time again. Marc
got Brock to call me about doing another Federal Court
motion on the same thing with the Rouleau decision to cite.

Yesterday, Brock called from London Ontario. I told him to
first call Health Canada and threaten to call in that maniac
Turmel to prepare the same application as Paquette used if
Brock didn't get his exemption by the end of the week. They
hopped when Paquette filed his application, they might be
smart enough to hop before Brock files his.

Today, Marc Paquette called to say that Health Canada told
Brock he will be getting his exemption in just a few days.

So Health Canada ducks Brock's exemption renewal bullet.



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

>TheStar.com
>Mon. Aug. 21, 2006.
>Special Report: Canada's war
>Canadians ambush Taliban
>Scores of insurgents die in `deliberate operation' by NATO

JCT: Scores of insurgents who had nothing to do wit 911 die.

Major victory for battle group newly arrived from Petawawa
Aug. 21, 2006. 05:26 AM
TERRY PEDWELL
CANADIAN PRESS

JCT: Keep in mind that for those of us who don't believe the
Taliban or Osama had the power to stand down the US Air
Force, only the US Administration could, nor that they
demolished 3 skyscrapers with 2 planeloads of aviation fuel,
only the US Secret services could, the Taliban and Osama
therefore stand not guilty of the charges. So Canada has
joined the invading Amerikans in fighting the Afghan people
who are innocent of 911. But once our boys start dying, it
no longer matters to most that this is Canada's first War
Crime ever:

TP: KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN - Scores of Taliban fighters have
been killed by Canadian and Afghan forces in a weekend of
fierce fighting in Afghanistan's volatile south. The
insurgents died in rolling battles that began late Saturday
and continued into yesterday in Panjwaii, about 30
kilometres west of Kandahar. "So far, we've recovered the
bodies of 72 Taliban," Panjwaii police chief Neyaz Mohammad
Sarhadi said last night. Four Afghan policemen also died in
the fighting, he said.

JCT: Lots of Taliban funerals for the millions of innocent
angry relatives to attend and I have no doubt they will
return the favor as soon as they get the chance. We've got
to get our boys out of there, apologize for believing a liar
like Bush, and then make amends. Though I can't see a Bush
brown-noser like Harper standing up for truth like an
honorable man.

TP: It was the first major assault involving Canadian battle
group soldiers, mainly from CFB Petawawa in eastern Ontario,
since they arrived in Kandahar during the past couple of
weeks.

JCT: It sounds like the media are crowing about the blood
Canada has drawn in our support of Bush's war crime. Canada
has never participated in such a war crime before and
ballyhooing our team killing the other team isn't helping.

TP: "It was an extremely big blow (to the Taliban's) combat
effectiveness," said Lt.-Col. Omer Lavoie who, just three
hours before the assault began, had taken over as Canada's
battle group commander in Kandahar.

JCT: Pure hype. Of the millions of Afghan guerrillas who
beat Russia, 72 isn't what I'd call an "extremely big blow."
Especially since most of them were probably innocent
civilians anyway found too near their kitchen knives and
labelled "belligerent.'

TP: It was the most significant victory for NATO since it
took over control of international forces in southern
Afghanistan July 31, killing nearly 10 per cent of the
estimated number of Taliban insurgents believed to be in the
south.

JCT: If  72 out of millions of angry innocent kin-folk is
their "most significant victory" so far, we've got a really
long way to go.

TP: "Ten per cent losses on the enemy insurgent side is a
very significant loss of their ability to conduct
operations," Lavoie said. "It should show the Canadian
public the high degree of training that Canadian soldiers
have."

JCT: Canadians have invader talents too?

TP: There were no casualties among the Canadians, members of
NATO's International Security Assistance Force, or ISAF.
Bodies and body parts were found scattered throughout the
area following the fighting, which was part of a "deliberate
operation," NATO said in a statement. "Afghan National
Security Forces and ISAF inflicted heavy casualties against
Taliban fighters in Kandahar's Panjwaii district," the
statement said.

JCT: Bet they've made the Taliban mad enough to keep hitting
us even harder. Lots more funerals for Harper to ignore.

TP: It was "a deliberate operation to extend security along
southern Afghanistan's Highway 1 corridor."

JCT: Highway 1 isn't secure? Sounds like we're invaders
surrounded by teeming masses. Hey, we are!

TP: The Afghan and Canadian forces moved into position
around three known Taliban locations, making their presence
known and hoping for a reaction, Lavoie said. When the
Taliban moved on them, the Canadians and Afghan security
forces were ready, he said. "We were able to engage the
enemy through fire and manoeuvre without ever having to have
ourselves backed into a corner," he said. Lavoie denied that
the operation was launched as payback for the Aug. 3 Taliban
attack against Canadians in Panjwaii, in which four soldiers
were killed and 10 others injured. "We don't keep a score
card," Lavoie said.

JCT: I bet they do. And they're aiming at a lot more invader
corpses the more Afghan corpses we create. Canadian invader
corpses.

TP: "And you certainly don't win counter-insurgency
operations through any sort of body count or sort of tally,
" he added. Sarhadi said the insurgents were killed when
they launched the attack. Bodies of militants were found in
three locations, scattered through orchards alongside their
weapons.

JCT: But 9 battles out of 10, it's just Captain Canuck
against a booby-trap or ambush. So we drew them into a trap
where we can use our cannons once. If they were smart,
they've have us chasing them all over their mountains with
our cannons and picking us off all the time. I'd bet we
don't have many more opportunities to trap them in front of
cannons again.

TP: NATO's ground forces used artillery and air strikes to
subdue the enemy fighters. There were no reports of civilian
casualties. Sources said impoverished farmers in the area
were told by Taliban insurgents to leave before the fighting
began.

JCT: I bet they won't try any more big operations when
continual sniping by millions against thousands seems the
best way.

TP: In an unusual move, NATO described the fighting as a
Taliban defeat. "The latest engagement in which the
insurgents have been defeated is another clear demonstration
that ISAF, working with Afghan National Security Forces, is
resolutely committed to bringing security to the areas of
Afghanistan that most need it," the statement said.

JCT: A battle has been won! A battle has been won! A battle
has been won! Sure. How goes the war?

TP: A purported Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousaf Ahmadi,
claimed the insurgents killed "scores" of police and damaged
10 police vehicles before a NATO air strike. Ahmadi often
contacts journalists to claim attacks for the Taliban, but
his exact ties to the militia's leadership are unclear.

The fighting came shortly after four American soldiers were
killed on Saturday in two clashes with Taliban fighters in
Kunar province in the east, and in Oruzgan in the south.
In the southern province of Helmand yesterday, a separate
clash with insurgents left one British soldier dead and
three others wounded, Britain's defence ministry said.
The death brought to 20 the number of British soldiers
killed since they deployed to Afghanistan in November 2001.
Militants also ambushed a police patrol in the western
province of Farah, sparking a gun battle that left one
officer and two attackers dead, a regional official said.
The attack on the highway police patrol in Bakwa district
also injured six officers and three attackers, said Ghulam
Dastagir Azad, the governor of neighbouring Nimroz province.

JCT: That the way to do it. With millions of citizens all
legally possessing assault rifles, no need to clump together
into a mass they can shoot cannons at. Better to just keep
sniping, sniping, sniping. A couple of thousand Captain
Canucks against millions of snipers and we're out there on
attack making them mad?

TP: Afghanistan is going through a bloody period of
violence, the worst since the fall of the Taliban in 2001.
Much of the fighting has been concentrated in the south.
Canada has roughly 2,200 soldiers working under the NATO
umbrella in the Kandahar region. Twenty-six Canadian
soldiers and one diplomat have been killed since Canada
deployed to Afghanistan in early 2002. Of those, 19 have
died during the past six months.

JCT: And a lot more coming up now that we've done so well at
killing ambushing the innocent mountain guerrillas. Of
course, I say they are innocent of 911. That's not the media
spin:

>NATO chief calls Afghanistan a 'just war'
>London Free Press, Canada - 9 Aug 2006
>By TERRY PEDWELL, CP. ...

>Canada, NATO owe Afghans in 'just war'
>Hamilton Spectator,  Canada - 9 Aug 2006
>By Terry Pedwell. ...

>'Stay the course'
>Toronto Sun, Canada - 9 Aug 2006
>By TERRY PEDWELL, THE CANADIAN PRESS. ...

JCT: The messages is always the same. Stay the course even
if you don't know what the course is.

>By Terry Pedwell
The Canadian Press
KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN (Aug 9, 2006)

TP: The commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan is pleading
with Canada to stay the course in Afghanistan despite
suffering its heaviest losses so far in the war-torn
country.

JCT: What course? What is Canada's goal? Democracy in 2020?
Why Afghanistan and not one of a hundred other nations
without democracy? Why Afghanistan right now?

TP: Canada and other NATO countries owe Afghans a debt of
gratitude for helping to topple the former Soviet Union,
said Lieutenant-General David Richards, a British general in
charge of NATO forces in Afghanistan.

JCT: By invading and killing them?

TP: "I bitterly regret the loss of life," Richards said
yesterday as the last of five Canadian soldiers killed in
southern Afghanistan last week was being returned home. "But
I believe that ... if ever there was a 'just war,' this is
it."

JCT: This is a just war? This is the most unjust war in
Canadian history. It's our first war crime. General Richards
should be our first war crime trial. Then again, he could
plead ignorance, even stupidity.

TP: Four Canadians were killed in attacks by Taliban
insurgents last Thursday and a fifth died in a traffic
accident Saturday while travelling with a military resupply
convoy. Another 13 Canadian soldiers were injured, some
seriously. Four British soldiers have also died since NATO
took command of international forces in southern Afghanistan
on July 31. In all, two dozen Canadian soldiers and one
diplomat have been killed since Canada entered Afghanistan
in early 2002.

"I think those soldiers have died for as good a cause as I
can think of," said Richards.

JCT: Twice invader General Richards has said it's a good
cause without once detailing what that good cause is.

TP: "And maybe we just need to stay the course now and hang
on in there."

JCT: It's not him getting shot at, just his men.

TP: Recent polls in Canada indicated Afghanistan has become
a contentious issue. A survey last month by Strategic
Counsel suggested 56 per cent of Canadians opposed the
military mission in Kandahar, up 15 percentage points from
March. And a report on the weekend said Prime Minister
Stephen Harper's office received 1,453 letters and e-mails
in May about the deployment to Afghanistan, two-thirds of
them calling on the government to get the troops home.

On a visit to soldiers at Kandahar Air Field, Richards
raised a widely held argument that the Soviet Union may not
have collapsed in 1991 had it not been forced to withdraw
from Afghanistan in 1989.

JCT: And now we get to take on the guys who beat Russia.

TP: "The people of this country actually fought and led to
the collapse of the Soviet Union, emancipating millions and
millions of people throughout the old Soviet bloc," Richards
said.  "Just ponder that and think: do we owe them
something?"

JCT: An invasion and killing of thousands of their
relatives?

TP: "Does not the world owe them something, because without
Afghanistan -- despite the pressure applied to the Soviet
Union -- there could be no certainty that the Soviet Union
would have collapsed in the way it did."

JCT: And we repay them with invasion why?

TP: On Dec. 24, 1979, the Soviet Union sent troops to crush
an uprising in Afghanistan, install a pro-Moscow government
and support the new government.
JCT: Since then now, United States sent troops to crush the
Afghan government, install a pro-Washington government and
support the new government.

TP: For more than nine years, mujahedeen rebels -- including
Osama bin Laden -- fought the Soviet occupation, with
financial backing from the Cold War-era CIA, Pakistan and
Saudi Arabia.

JCT: And for more than four years, mujahedeen rebels --
including Osama bin Laden -- fought the Amerikan occupation,
with financial backing from their own sources.

TP: By 1989, the Soviets were forced to withdraw after
massive losses and under pressure from the long-suffering
Soviet public. Some historians believe that the defeat in
Afghanistan, in part, led to the downfall of the Soviet
Union.

JCT: But we expect te Amerikans will not be forced to
withdraw after massive losses and under pressure from the
long-suffering Amerikan public because they tricked Canada's
Parliament into sending Canadian kids to do the dying.

TP: But after the departure of the Soviets, the U.S.
government and others cut off funding to the Afghan
jihadists, leaving the country open to a full-scale civil
war. The fighting ended only after the extremist Taliban
movement came to power by successfully attacking local
warlords. "The international community dumped on
Afghanistan," said Richards, a self-professed lifelong
military historian. "They left them to themselves."  The
West, Richards suggested, also left itself open to attack by
ignoring Afghanistan.

Bin Laden, who had set up militia training camps during the
Soviet occupation, found safe haven in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime. His al-Qaeda organization had groups of
terrorists ready to strike at the West. And along came the
disastrous attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. "OK, it was New York
and Washington that suffered dreadfully" when terrorists
trained by bin Laden attacked the World Trade Center and
the Pentagon, said Richards. "(But) it could have been
Ottawa. It could have been Toronto."

JCT: So General Richards is a dupe who believes Bin Laden
did 911. I've already explained how Bin Laden and the
Taliban couldn't have called off the US Air Force
protection nor raze 3 sky-scrapers with 2 planeloads of
gasoline. And his good reason for Canucks staying the course
in Arab mountains is because they did 911!

TP: Within months after 9/11, a U.S.-led coalition entered
Afghanistan to support local forces in driving the Taliban
from power.

JCT: What local forces? It was an out and out invasion to
set up their quisling Karzai and sucker Canadians into
fighting off the innocent invadees.

TP: Canada now has more than 2,000 troops in southern
Afghanistan to help the Afghan government fight Taliban
insurgents. "We can't risk the Taliban coming back in with
Osama bin Laden ... because it will soon rebound on your
children, my children, us, wherever we live," Richards said.

JCT: They never bothered Canada until we attacked them for
911 which they did not do.

TP:  "I think that's one hell of a good reason" for the
international community to be in Afghanistan, he said.

JCT: Their beating Russia is one hell of a good reason for
us to retreat.

Some comments on my last 4 more Canuck patsies article:

>Article #4062 (4064 is last):
>From: doug.jones@... (Drink Urine)
>Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-turmel,can.politics,can.legal,
>alt.drugs,sci.econ,sci.engr,alt.conspiracy
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: 4 more Canuck patsies for US Afghan
>pipeline invasion
>Date: 5 Aug 2006 13:53:51 GMT

>JCT: The news is full of Canuck casualties in our war in
>Afghanistan for what the Taliban had done to Canada. Hey?
>What did the Taliban ever do to Canada?

DJ: What did Hitler ever do to Canada? We should have just
left him alone and given him what he wanted then we could
have lived in eternal peace.

JCT: The standard reasoning for pre-emptive war. Why do you
say Afghanistan should be the first "Hitler-like" situation
to be dealt with? Why not China? Somalia?

DJ: Germany had oil pipelines too and that's why we fought a
war of agression against them.

JCT: Really?

DJ: It had nothing to do with anything else and anyone who
says different is a liar.

JCT: There are alleged reasons for World War II though I
think yours is silly.

>Article #4063 (4064 is last):
>From: henry355482@... (Henry Bonner)
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: 4 more Canuck patsies for US Afghan
>pipeline invasion
>Date: 5 Aug 2006 13:56:01 GMT

>What did the Taliban ever do to Canada?

HB: Wow John, you're smart! I bet that if you ever ran for
political office, everyone would vote for a guy like you!
You should try it some day.

JCT: And since I did try it and every one didn't vote for
me, then I must wrong, I'm not smart, and there is a good
reason for Canada going after the Taliban. Okay. I'd like to
hear why from our "Oh Henry, not so smart."

>Article #4064 (4064 is last):
>From: w_b_ryan@...
>Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-turmel,alt.drugs,alt.conspiracy
>Subject: He drinks his own piss!
>Date: 5 Aug 2006 10:06:16 -0700

JCT: And the standard response from pseudo-Socred William B.
Ryan, someone I beat so badly in debate that his only
recourse it to trace down everyone of my posts with this.
Anyone think this reaction is because he won our debates?
Har har har har.


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JCT: The news is full of Canuck casualties in our war in
Afghanistan for what the Taliban had done to Canada. Hey?
What did the Taliban ever do to Canada?

George Bush explained the Amerikan invasion of Afghanistan
as a chase after Bin Laden who George Bush said had
masterminded 911 by calling NORAD up on the telephone and
tricking the generals into believing he was George Bush so
he could order US Defence Forces to all stand down.

Bush told us Bin Laden was the evil monster who managed to
demolish 3 sky-scrapers with 2 plane loads of aviation fuel,
kerosene and he didn't need to present any evidence to the
Afghan government to extradite him.

Bush demanded the evil one who pulled off the NORAD stand-
down and the 3-buildings for 2 planes demolition had to be
handed over with no evidence of he'd invade. And then he
invaded.

Of course, now we know that the US Air Force generals
weren't that stupid but were diverted from their duties by
the White House, not Bin Laden.

And more and scientists and engineers are saying out loud
that kerosene can't melt steel girders, let alone slice them
up with laser-like precision for easy removal and
destruction of the evidence.

We're faced with the fact that the lies of George Bush are
now the main staple on the Comedy channel, if not the major
presstitute media.

So Bush got Amerika to invade Afghanistan knowing Bin Laden
wasn't the mastermind of 911. His puppet-master was.

Everyone who refuses to believe kerosene can melt steel or
that it was Bin Laden who fooled the generals into standing
down must accept that Afghanistan was innocent of Bush's
charges of harboring the man who did 911 when Bush did it.
(It was probably over a pipeline, Karzai being an oil
industry executive or CIA wanting to end Taliban's
prohibition of heroin cultivation.)

So innocent Afghanis were invaded under false pretenses and
fought back. And somehow, Canada is now in on this illegal
and immoral invasion of an innocent nation.

When I see pictures of Canada's latest dead war heros, I'm
reminded I once wore that uniform and wonder what I would
have done if I had been faced with service in a immoral but
Parliament-sanctioned overseas invasion?

Eric Margolis is one of my favorite writers in non-
economic current history. Though he thinks inflation is
Shift A too much money chasing the goods whereas my Miracle
Equation shows it's Shift B same money chasing less goods
after foreclosure, and his financial articles are wrong, his
political history articles are usually right:

>The War in Afghanistan Is Only the Beginning
>by Eric Margolis
>July 6, 2006

EM: Something has gone terribly wrong in Afghanistan. The
heaviest fighting there since the 2001 U.S. invasion has
recently erupted. Many Americans, who were then assured by
neocons and their media trumpets that their nation had
triumphantly won the war in Afghanistan and crushed the
Taliban, are dismayed and bewildered.

In 2001, unable to withstand high-tech U.S. forces,
Taliban's leader, Mullah Omar, ordered his men, who had been
fighting the Afghan Communists and pro-Russian Tajiks, to
disband, exchange their black turbans for white ones, and
blend into the civilian population.

JCT: I used to joke that the invasion of Iraq should be
called "Belfast times 10." It's no joke that invading
Afghanistan mountains is "Baghdad times 10."

EM: At the time, this writer, who covered the 1980's Great
Jihad in Afghanistan and ensuing birth of Taliban, warned
war would resume in about four years, just as it did after
the 1979 Soviet invasion. This prediction was greeted with
jeers, and accusations of idiocy and lack of patriotism.

Now, as predicted, Taliban forces have taken the offensive
against U.S. and NATO troops, often employing deadly new
tactics, like roadside and suicide bombs, learned from
Iraq's resistance. Casualties are mounting on both sides.

JCT: And as more and more Captain Canucks come home in
coffins, revenge will be more and more wanted and we'll more
and more have to "stay the course" because "cutting and
running" would be an insult to their sacrifice.

EM: Significantly for an independent-minded people unused to
cooperation of any kind, the Taliban movement has been
joined by many other political and tribal groups to form a
national resistance against foreign occupation. Prominent
among them: Hisbi Islami, led by former CIA protege Gulbadin
Hekmatyar, the most effective guerrilla leader in the 1980's
anti-Soviet jihad, and renowned mujahidin leader, Jallaludin
Haqqani.

Small numbers of foreign jihadis have also come to fight.
Most important, growing numbers of "khels," or clans of the
Pashtun (Pathan) tribe - the world's largest tribal group,
numbering 40 million - have joined the resistance. Pashtuns
comprise half Afghanistan's 30 million population. Another
28 million Pushtuns live just across the border, known as
the Durand Line, in Pakistan. The Durand Line is an
artificial border created, like so many others in Africa and
Asia, by British imperialists. Most Afghans reject the
legality of the line, which sunders their people.

JCT: We'll see how they do against a couple of thousand
"never-been-to-war-before" Canucks.

EM: The U.S./NATO campaign is increasingly directed against
warlike Pashtun tribes like the Afridi and Orokzai, and
their civilians, rather than against so-called "Taliban
terrorists." However, distinguishing between "Taliban
militants" and ordinary farmers or merchants is extremely
difficult from fast-flying fighter aircraft and attack
helicopters. The U.S./NATO policy seems to be shoot or bomb
first, then label the casualties as "terrorists" or
"collateral damage caused by Taliban hiding in civilian
homes."

JCT: Remember, these terrorists are all innocent of the 911
charges. Bush did 911 and NATO is invading an innocent
nation.

EM: Until recently, million of dollars in monthly cash
bribes from CIA to Afghan warlords kept key areas under
nominal authority of the U.S.-installed Karzai regime. The
writ of this long-time CIA "asset" barely extends beyond the
capitol, Kabul. Only Western bayonets keep him in office.

JCT: Canadian bayonets too.

EM: Karzai's popularity among Afghans is best judged by the
fact that he is constantly surrounded by 100-200 U.S.
bodyguards kept just out of range of western TV cameras.

JCT: Canadians defend the US puppet too!

EM: As for claims the western powers are rebuilding
Afghanistan, it's worth recalling the Soviets also built
schools, clinics, and roads in Afghanistan, held
"democratic" elections and branded the resistance "Islamic
terrorists." The U.S./NATO occupation follows an identical
pattern, complete with candy for kids, platitudes about
women's rights and nation-building, and rigged elections.

JCT: Canadians get news stories of our nation-building
efforts too.

EM: But the Westerners won't be any more successful in
winning hearts and minds of Afghans than the Russians -
particularly after the flood of U.S. $100 dollar bills
renting temporarily loyalty begins to dry up once Washington
cuts back on the now nearly $2 billion monthly cost of the
occupation. Or once it ceases employing 25,000 soldiers and
hundreds of CIA agents in the search for Osama bin Laden and
Ayman al-Zawahiri.

JCT: Right. It's dying time for the patsies left to hold
territory of an illegal invasion. And Harper said today that
if our Canucks are willing to fight, he's willing to let
them. They had no choice, they were ordered there. What a
sleaze to say he's letting them stay because they are
willing to stay.

EM: The biggest difference between the Soviet and U.S.
occupation is that since 1989, Afghanistan has become a
total narco-state. Most of the national income comes
from export of opium and morphine/heroin. Afghanistan
supplies 80% of the world's heroin. Washington's allies,
members of the Karzai regime and Afghan Communists
(Northern Alliance) are accused of being deeply involved
in the drug trade.

JCT: Eric should have mentioned that the puritanical Taliban
had almost wiped out the heroin trade and the CIA only got
back on track after the US invasion! The CIA's heroin
traffic is a second reason as good as the pipeline to get
rid of the successful anti-heroin Taliban.

EM: Sending troops to Afghanistan was marketed to Americans
as a crusade against terrorism and revenge for the 9/11
attacks, with nation-building as a sub-theme.

JCT: How was participation in an invasion based on false
pretext marketed to Canadians? Did every member of
Parliament believe the Taliban were harboring the man who
pulled off 911? I didn't. But I didn't hear any MP seem to
know the truth at the time they let Canada join the
invasion. Parliament did it. I never agreed to support
Bush's invasion.

EM: Blaming "terrorists" for the current upsurge in fighting
obscures the natural and inevitable growth of resistance to
foreign occupation among Afghans. The longer foreigners stay
and bomb villages, the more they are hated by the xenophobic
Afghans.

JCT: And Canadians kids are being put in the line of fire to
fight an enemy who will put the righteous combat of the
innocent party. And Canadians now patsies for the guilty.

EM: Claims by Washington of political progress in
Afghanistan are wishful thinking. It is the classic Afghan
way to smile and pocket bribe money, and tell foreigners
what they want to hear, only to attack them in the night.
Tribal and clan loyalties trump all other links. Most
Afghans working for the foreign occupation are secretly in
touch with the resistance.

JCT: Hey, 2000 Canuck invaders facing millions of angry
innocent invadees seems a pretty fair odds to Parliament and
the Canadian media who keep hyping how our soldiers bravely
think their mission worth their lives.

EM: All those ponderous U.S. search-and-destroy operations
are telegraphed long in advance to the resistance. Of
course. Afghans know one day Americans and other foreigners
will go home, just as did the Russians, British and
Alexander's Greeks.

JCT: Maybe our Canadian boys will prevail where all the
others over history have failed.

Eric Margolis, contributing foreign editor for Sun National
Media Canada, is the author of War at the Top of the World.

JCT: The really sad part about Canada slipping quietly into
a war, even if it's not yet called "Canada at war," is that
as soon as the Taliban "enemy" ever hit Canada at home,
Harper's going to pull out the new version of our War
Measures Act waiting in the wings to be introduced at the
first emergency. Like the Amerikan Patriot Act, everyone is
going to give up civil rights and put on handcuffs to ensure
no terrorists will remain free. The Patriot Act has ensured
few terrorists remain free in the US by taking away
everyone's civil rights. And you can bet Harper's got the
legislation ready to rush through Parliament at the first
emergency. After all, if Bush is slated to be "War
President" forever, why not a "War Prime Minister" forever?

So, what would I have done had I been faced with serving in
an illegal immoral invasion of an framed innocent nation?

There are only two choices, to serve and not complain, to
serve and complain, or to refuse to serve.

A) Losing by service overseas in this war crime is to die.
B) Losing by service with complaint is also to die.
B) Losing by refusal to serve, after all legal avenues are
exhausted, is jail until the invasion of the innocent nation
is finally proven evil.

Being a consummate winner, I think I know what I would have
done. I hope some potentially dead war heros use their
brains and come to the same conclusion.

When you realize it's all over money, it disgusts. That's
why Major Clifford H. Douglas, original Social Credit
Engineer, said that economic war (competition for life-
support tickets) leads to real war. Throughout most history,
war was over getting money and not being foreclosed on in
the mort-gage death-gamble.


--
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for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
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JCT: Go check it out. Alan Young has claimed credit for the
4000 charges dropped due to the Terry Parker Day
Declaration. I and Marc Paquette were with Terry in the
demand to Declare the law became invalid on Aug. 1 2001.
Alan Young was not.

As a matter of fact, when the court did declare the law had
been invalid since Terry Parker Day 2001, Young was on TV
explaining to Canadians how his Hitzig case had brought the
period of legalisation to an end. A reverse way of saying he
had brought the law back to life.

He now ducks not only responsibility for bringing the law
that Terry had invalidated back to life but he's done it by
taking credit for requesting the Terry Parker Day
Declaration of invalidity on Aug. 1 2001.

It's all easily proven, I've published the Parker Order,
Turmel-Paquette Order and Hitzig Order in our Prohibition
kits. Anyone can see we asked to have the law declared
invalid since Aug. 1 Terry Parker Day and were thus
responsible for the 4000 charges being dropped.

Alan Young is responsible for those withdrawals being
limited to Oct 7 2003 when he brought it back to life on
Hitzig Day.

Professor Alan Young Acts for Medicinal Marijuana Patients
http://osgoode.yorku.ca/media2.nsf/83303ffe5af03ed585256ae60
05379c9/bd4fe9fb9cdc94cc85256df7006bbb05?OpenDocument

JCT: This is what the York University Osgoode Hall Law
School is publishing about their Professeur Saboteur, Judas
Goat now trying to white-wash his blackened record.

Globe and Mail
Ottawa stays pot charges in 4,000 case
At same time, rules changed to improve patients' access to pot
By KIM LUNMAN
Tuesday, Dec. 9, 2003

JCT: This is the very same article we use in our Prohibition
kits proving our demand to declare the prohibition invalid
since Terry Parker Day by the withdrawal of charges up until
Oct 7 2003 Hitzig day:

OTTAWA -- Ottawa is making it a green Christmas for 4,000
people -- it plans to stay thousands of charges of pot
possession as a result of legal battles over medicinal
marijuana.
The decision will apply to every person in Canada charged
with possession of marijuana between July 31, 2001, and Oct.
7, 2003, Justice Department spokeswoman Pascale Boulay said
yesterday.
The Justice Department intends to cease prosecutions on the
cases because of an Ontario court ruling in 2000 that found
medicinal-marijuana users had the right to possess less than
30 grams of pot.

JCT: Nowhere is 30 grams of pot mentioned in the law.

The judge delayed that ruling's effect for one year in the
hope the federal government would introduce a medicinal-
marijuana law. But the government did not.

JCT: Bingo. It did not on time so the law became invalid
since 1 year after the July 31 2000 suspended Parker
declaration.

Instead, the cabinet issued regulations for access to
medicinal marijuana one day before the year-long grace
period ended in 2001. The Ontario ruling created a legal
loophole, effectively invalidating Canada's marijuana
possession law as unconstitutional because it failed to
provide an exemption for medical use.

JCT: No mention of why it became invalid if they introduced
the regulations on time though it was then admitted it had.

"We estimate there are about 4,000 pending files," Ms.
Boulay said. However, she said that criminal charges of
marijuana possession will still be prosecuted today as a
result of the government's announcement yesterday that it
will not appeal the medicinal-marijuana case to the Supreme
Court.
"It still constitutes an offence and [anyone caught with
marijuana] would face charges."

JCT: No explanation of how an invalid law was still valid.

The federal government recently introduced legislation to
decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana.

JCT: That issue is short-circuited by whether the law had
died on Terry Parker Day. Why decriminalize that whose
prohibition was no longer valid?

Possession of marijuana now carries a maximum penalty of six
months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000.

JCT: Still no mention how the law went from invalid to valid
again. Just the report that it had.

The decision not to proceed with 4,000 possession
prosecutions follows Health Canada's announcement yesterday
that it would not appeal an Ontario Court of Appeal ruling
in October that allows ill people to grow their own
marijuana supply or to obtain it from designated growers.

JCT: Actually, it had to do with the law having been invalid
since Terry Parker Day, not that the sick have better
regulations for access to a no longer prohibited substance.

Some police forces had virtually stopped enforcing the
possession law after the initial ruling threw its
constitutionality into question. Last January, a Windsor
judge cleared a 16-year-old on the grounds the federal pot-
possession laws were no longer valid.

JCT: For the wrong technical reason which eventually lost.
So why did J.P. still get acquitted if he had lost his
appeal? Because Parker had won the point that the law had
been invalid since Terry Parker Day. Same reason as the 4000
got off too. Because of the Terry Parker Day declaration
Terry asked for that the Legalist Plagiarist is now claiming
as words of his own demand.

Yesterday, Health Minister Anne McLellan said the government
would amend the Marijuana Medical Access Regulations to
provide reasonable access to a legal source of marijuana for
medical purposes.
"The amendments announced today will ensure that Canadians
who suffer from serious medical conditions for whom
conventional therapies have not been successful will have
reasonable access to a legal source of marijuana," she said.

JCT: Three years later, the medicine of the vast majority of
Canada's epileptics remains prohibited to them. "Success if
a few get it" wrote Justice Sidney Lederman. 99%
failure may be success for a lawyer, but not an engineer.

But the people at the centre of the court case are upset the
government will continue to strictly limit local growing
operations, forcing patients to obtain government pot, which
they consider inferior and overpriced.

"I've got mixed feelings about it," said Jari Dvorak, a 62-
year-old medicinal-marijuana user in Toronto who uses the
drug to alleviate symptoms of HIV. "They seem to be half-
hearted about the program."

JCT: One of the Hitzig litigants whose fight to fix the
access regulations helped bring the prohibition back to
life.

Mr. Dvorak is among 697 patients in Canada authorized by the
government to use medicinal marijuana. He is also among 11
patients to take Ottawa to court over the program's lack of
access.

JCT: Thanks to him wanting better access through a no longer
valid prohibition, the invalid prohibition was resurrected.

The lawyer representing the patients in the case, Alan
Young, also had concerns about whether the government would
ensure access to medicinal marijuana.

JCT: Stab-in-the-back Young who conspired with the Crown to
reassure a civil court judge that Parker agreed to have his
criminal court Pitt Order extending his protection "set
aside" as "not worth the paper it's printed on."

"All I've seen is crisis public-policy management," he said.
Under the new rules, it will be acceptable for a patient to
pay his or her supplier, and the price is left for them to
negotiate. But the rules will continue to prevent a grower
from supplying more than a single patient, and to prevent
more than three patients from cultivating together.

The new regulation contains some minor changes in the
procedure for obtaining approval for marijuana access. One
class of patients, which had previously required signatures
from two medical specialists, will now require only one
signature. Currently there is little scientific evidence
that pot has therapeutic benefits, but many patients say it
helps them deal with nausea, pain and lack of appetite.

Nota Bene: Alan Young has also been on "The Docket," CBC
Newsworld's live legal affairs program twice in the past
month. For more information on the show, and the episodes
featuring Young, click on www.cbc.ca/thedocket

Osgoode Hall Law School
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, Canada
M3J 1P3Telephone: 416.736.5030
Fax: 416.736.5736
http://www.osgoode.yorku.ca

JCT: Go watch the fraud who is stealing credit for the Terry
Parker Day Declaration from Terry after stabbing him in the
back to help the Crown talk a civil judge into setting aside
a criminal Order as a civil default judgment because the
Crown and Parker's friend, Professor Alan Young, agreed it
wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

I'm happy to say Parker never once dissed the learned
Justice Romain Pitt by entertaining such a disparaging
notion of the champion who saw the emergency under the right
to life and extended his Superior Court's protection on
short notice and ex parte, after the Crown screwed up and
missed the hearing.

He granted his Order extending the 1-year protection granted
by the Ontario Court of Appeal "until the government has
complied with the court's ruling." Which it had not. And the
Court of Appeal eventually sustained the opinion that the
government had not yet complied with the Parker Court
ruling.

Imagine York University trying to build up its Osgoode Hall
Law School by passing Young off as the Appellant for the
Terry Parker Day Declaration of invalidity since Aug. 1 2001
when he was actually responsible for bringing the Parker
Period of invalidity to its end.

Unless the judges are wrong in declaring their Hitzig
decision brings the prohibition back to life and Parliament
must re-enact a new prohibition once an old one has been
invalidated and deemed repealed pursuant to Section 2 of the
Interpretation Act in which case Young's Hitzig victory he
says brought the law back to life and all those innocent
Canadians will have been convicted for nothing because Young
was wrong when he told Canada's police that the court had
resurrected the law.

Wow! York U. posts Professeur Saboteur's false record!


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
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JCT: You'll remember how Derek Francisco applied for his
MMAR exemption to grow his herbal medicine in September 2005.
He was busted in January 2006. he received
his MMAR Exemption on April 4 2006.

On May 29 2006 at Ontario Superior Court in Lindsay, Crown
Lloyd Greenspoon would take a guilty plea on the section
7(1) cultivation charge for 1 year probation with no
reporting but all Derek's herb and grow equipment would be
seized.

Derek insisted on getting the equipment back. The Crown
relented and agreed. Then Derek said he wanted his seized
196 grams of marijuana back. The Crown agreed. And then
Derek said: "No, I can't plead guilty to a law that no
longer exists in Canada. I get a complete walk on the
charges with all my stuff or there's no deal."

Har har har har har. Har har har har. And the Ministry of
Justice folded their tent and withdrew the charge and are
returning everything that was seized.

Derek's wife lost her job and is thinking of suing someone
in Small Claims Court herself.

Anyway, it's nice to see the Krieger Cultivation Card used
successfully. Giving back the pot proves Krieger counted
when the bust took place! There's no reason for anyone who
can prove medical need to worry with Francisco Coup.

Of course, Robert Neron was my first such victory. He had
applied, got busted, Health Canada's turned down his doctor's
application, I showed did him a Federal Court Section 28
judicial review and, after Don Appleby's successful refusal
judicial review, Robert was my second of five victories
overturning Health Canada refusals.

But that was won on brute intimidation. Federal Court didn't
Order the exemptions. Health Canada gave up before having to
file affidavits explaining why the doctors' applications had
been refused by their "examiner pharmacists." Har har har
har. Doctors letting themselves being examined by their
lessers. Rarely happens to engineers, other than NASA
shuttle engineers who quietly let themselves be similarly
over-ruled.

Anyway, the Francisco Coup used Krieger to get the charges
dropped. So while Krieger Klutzes his way to more and more
convictions without using his own S.7(1) case, we're using
his case to get off. Har har har har.

Nice to be the only anti-prohibition team to post any wins
after a continuous litany of other losers making the news.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: As the discoverer of Shift B inflation (same money
chasing less goods after foreclosure in a world of
economists who have only been taught Shift A inflation
(too much money chasing the goods), it always strikes me
how many times the Big Lie has to keep being repeated,
stated overtly or presumed:

>Dodge looking good now
>Jul. 21, 2006. 02:45 PM
>CANADIAN PRESS - TheStar.com
>DAVID BOILY

OTTAWA - A "shocking" broad-based decline in consumer prices
put Canada's annual inflation rate at 2.5 per cent in June,
down from May's 2.8 per cent and reducing the need for
higher interest rates.

JCT: 1) Because everyone has been taught that when banks
raise interest rates, businesses pass along those savings by
decreasing their prices and inflation Shift A will go down.
Har har har har.

DB: Economists say the lower-than-expected inflation rate,
announced Friday by Statistics Canada, is not only good news
for homeowners with mortgages,

JCT: 2) Because lower inflation shift A means no interest
rate medicine necessary.

DB: but the number marks an important victory for Bank of
Canada governor David Dodge. "It's an unbelievable number,"
said CIBC senior economist Benjamin Tal. "This makes Dodge
look really good." June's inflation rate confirms the Bank
of Canada's earlier assurances that the national economy is
cooling to more reasonable levels. It also suggests interest
rates will not budge for now.

JCT: 3) Because inflation shift A is lower so the interest
medicine won't be necessary.

DB: In reaction, the Canadian dollar fell 0.35 of a cent to
87.92 cents US in midday trade Friday. Some economists
criticized Dodge earlier this month when he decided to leave
the bank's key overnight lending rate at 4.25 per cent,
instead of raising it. The statistics agency said the core
inflation rate, which excludes volatile components such as
energy and food prices, came in at 1.7 per cent. Tal said
the market expected core inflation to reach as high as 2.1
per cent.

JCT: 4) He didn't raise interest to fight inflation shift A
they thought he should.

DB: "This is just shocking," he said. But BMO Nesbitt Burns
economist Douglas Porter said part of the reason inflation
eased was that retailers and automakers had to adjust their
prices before the federal GST cut on July 1. He also said
the loonie's 28-year high continued to cut into Canada's
exports. "Just like May's reports exaggerated inflationary
pressure, this report may have exaggerated the numbers on
the down side," he said. May's unprecedented job gains,
combined with higher-than-expected wage increases in June,
had economists worried about inflation pressure. David Tulk
of TD Economics said June's inflation numbers prove that
Dodge has a good handle on the economy.

JCT: 5) Dodge has been handling the interest rate well
enough to keep inflation shift A down.

DB: "This report takes the monkey off his back," Tulk said.
"Many had thought the bank had gone to the sidelines too
early."

JCT: 6)Many thought Dodge didn't keep interest in play.

DB: Tal said he was most surprised that the price increases
in almost every sector eased in June, led by the price of
gasoline. After registering nearly 20 per cent increases in
previous months, gasoline prices posted a 15.4 per cent
increase in June. But Saskatchewan motorists still paid
nearly 20 per cent more to fuel their vehicles.
Since consumer prices are now below the Bank of Canada's
target two per cent core inflation target, Tal said it's not
too early for consumers to start thinking about interest
rate cuts before the end of the year.

JCT: 6) Since inflation shift A is low, less interest
medicine is necessary.

DB: But Porter said interest rate cuts likely won't happen
before 2007, since the U.S. Federal Reserve is still under
pressure to hike its lending rate.

JCT: 7)It must be under pressure to hike rates to fight
inflation shift A.

DB: Canadians paid less for computer equipment, home
electronics and clothing in June. This summer's car buying
incentives also contributed to lower prices in the
automotive sector. Alberta's torrid economic activity
continued to drive the upward pressure on prices. The
homebuilding and home renovation industries in that province
contributed to an overall jump in the cost of building
materials. Home replacement costs, which include those items
used for structural repairs, rose 7.4 per cent. Ontario and
Quebec consumers continued to pay more for energy, as the
price of power jumped by 6.2 per cent in the month. This
gain was partly offset by a seven per cent drop in the price
of natural gas.

JCT: And reading price increases as inflation rather than
natural market phenomena helps their cover story when the
real price increase is when businesses pass along the raised
interest costs in higher prices.

Imagine those economic zombies believing raising business
costs will reduce prices! Har har har.
See: http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/biglie.htm


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: A university conference on using poker chips may sure
sound easy but considering how badly the world is screwing
up with its national poker chips, a conference on non-
malfunctioning poker chips, no matter how elementary, is
never a bad idea in a world full of misinformed users.

>Subject: conference announcement - book early!
>Posted by: "schuster@..." schuster@...
>Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:31 am (PDT)

S: International conference "MONETARY REGIONALISATION Local
currency systems as catalysts for endogenous regional
development from September 28th to 29th 2006 at the Bauhaus-
Universitat Weimar Local Currencies, Barter Circles, LETS,
Complementary Currencies... a new monetary pluralism is
emerging.
There is a worldwide growth in complementary local currency
systems.

JCT: Not only is there growth in local complementary
currency systems but there is also growth in national
complementary currency systems (Venezuela) though there may
be little growth in international trading of Hours of labor.

S: In the 20th Century Europe, local currency systems were
developed and implemented as instruments for regional
development primarily during the economic depression of the
1930s. Some of the initiatives ceased to exist after a short
period of time, others, like the Swiss WIR, still operate
successfully today.

JCT: "Ceased to exist" is a bankster apologist's way of
explaining that they were out-lawed by the courts at the
instigation of the central bank (if they're not doing it
right, no one can) and, just like in Canada where William
Aberhart social credits were out-lawed by the courts, both
"experiments" are deemed to have failed, to have ceased to
operate. "Economies made vibrant by social currency grease
do not "ceased to exist." They can only be out-lawed. And
these are German organizers hiding the banksters' role in
making Depression-era social currencies cease to exist.

S: In the last decades of the past century new local
currency systems have appeared worldwide, in many cases in
circumstances of economic decline.

JCT: People with money to collect interest aren't interested
in earning money that buys food but doesn't pay interest.
Only people with no money who do not collect interest are
interested in earning money that buys food but doesn't pay
interest. But the more poor who get organized to focus on
food, the less prostitution the money of the rich will buy.

S: A special mention can be given to the LETS-systems,

JCT: No mention of world-wide UNILETS that has none of the
flaws in small-database trading under discussion. Boy, would
a maximum-database flawless accounting package ruin those
"flaws in LETS" social currencies workshops. Besides, it's
not the bicycle that's flawed, it's that theirs are so small
and are often beign driven backward.

S: the Argentinean local currencies

JCT: And Provincial government social currencies helped so
much, it put most local databases out of action.

S: and local and sectoral currency systems in Korea and
Japan.

JCT: Not much news about "sectoral" currency systems from
the Orient has made it to our world. Heck, nothing much
about useful systems makes from our world to our world.

S: At the conference, we aim to support this scientific
interest into a civic movement,

JCT: Maybe they'll elect a leader of the LETS civic
movement?

S: bringing together multidisciplinary international
experts, who share a common and often long-standing interest
in the evaluation and the theoretical development of local
currency movements.

JCT: Beware the multidisciplinary international experts
whose common and often long-standing interest in the
evaluation and the theoretical development of local currency
movements is to keep them small and ineffectual. Bernard
Lietaer will be telling them about when it's better to keep
using national interest-bearing currency rather than our own
social interest-free currency, no doubt.

S: In a transdisciplinary dialogue the impact of local
currency systems on regional social and economic structures
will be evaluated and the potentials in fostering endogenous
regional development will be discussed.
Recent and historical case studies from European and non-
European contexts will serve to answer the question under
which political, social and economic preconditions local
currency systems can exist,

JCT: How but "currency systems can exist" under all
preconditions but slavery.

S: revive local economic cycles and enable citizens to form
new alliances towards social, cultural and economic
sustainability.

Speakers are:

Prof. Frank Eckardt (Bauhaus-University Weimar)
Prof. Bernard Lietaer (Naropa University, Boulder, USA)

JCT: Bankster Bernard. Just Google him and Turmel and bets
to find my 8 challenges found in his 13 lines.

Dr. Jerome Blanc (Universit=E9 Lumi=E8re Lyon)

I met him at the Montreal conference a few years ago so
search for him and Turmel to read about it.

Prof. Loren Gatch (University of Central Oklahoma, USA)
Prof. Makoto Maruyama (University of Tokyo, Japan)

JCT: It would be nice to hear about developments in social
currencies in a high-tech world.

Prof. Nigel Thrift (University of Oxford, UK)
Prof. Ulrich Scheiper (Fachhochschule W=FCrzburg)
Prof. Roger Lee (University of London, UK)
Dr. Robert Musil (Universit=E4t Wien)
Prof. Jonathan Warner (Dordt College, Iowa)
Dr. Gerhard R=F6sl (Volkswirtschaftler)
Henning Osmers (Universit=E4t Oldenburg, Germany)
Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Cezanne (Brandenburgische TU Cottbus)
Prof. Margrit Kennedy (Regioverband Germany)

JCT: Of course, her book "Interest- and Inflation-free
money" was one cheerful note in the early days when no one
believed running our own currencies interest-free was
doable.

Dr. Peter North (University of Liverpool, U.K.)

JCT: The first LETS Ph.D. but he never got the Big UNILETS
Picture.

Stephen DeMeulenaere(Strohhalm Foundation, Bali)

JCT: No one's done more to erode UNILETS support on the net
and at conferences than Stephen.

Barbara Ro=DFmei=DFl (Universit=E4t Passau)
Prof. Heloisa Primavera (University of Buenos Aires, Argentina)

JCT: Guardian of the secrets of the Argentine debt
revolution.

Prof. Dr. Martina Sch=E4fer (TU Berlin)
and others.

For more information on the international conference
"Monetary Regionalisation":
http://www.monetary-regionalisation.com

Venue: Bauhaus-Universitat Weimar

Organiser: Bauhaus-Universitat Weimar and REGIOprojekt e.V.
Phone: 03643-58 39 23 E: regioprojekt@...

***Book early! You will receive an early bird discount until
July 31st 2006.

JCT: And another money reform summit going on right after
that:

>>> 4th REGIOGELD SUMMIT
>>> 30th Sept. - 1st Oct. in Weimar, Germany
Theoreticians and Practicioners of Regional Currency
initiatives from all over Germany come together in this
summit to exchange their knowledge and experience. This
year's Regiogeld Summit will focus on the development and
efficacy of the tool "Local Currency", especially for the
economically underdeveloped regions.

JCT: Nice to hear the machinery called a tool.

The Regiogeld Association will present itself to the public
and give an overview over the current initiatives. The
Banker Gernot Schmidt (Sparkasse Leipzig) explains why his
institution is planning the implementation of a local
currency and which sustainable effects are expected by this.

Wonderful. I've always begged the day I could go down to my
neighborhood Rothschild or Rockefeller loanshark bank and be
offered an interest-free LETS (1/s) friendly credit account
right next to my American or French (1/(s-i)) accounts too.
Having orthodox banking networks settle for a pure service
charge to handle our banking is all I've ever asked for.
Next step, Canadian banks?

University teacher Hans Ebert (FH Kufstein) is going to
point out that many regions could profit by reactivating
fallow economic sectors and lost regional structures.

JCT: Hope someone points out the benefits of everyone
connecting to the International UNILETS Time Standard of
Money. 1-Hour of unskilled child labor as base.

"Regiogeld-patron" Margrit Kennedy will present her vision
of a fair economy on the basis of complementary currencies.

JCT: Notice how local social complementary currencies are
the only mechanism in the world with a positive effect on
society?

Last but not least the Swiss ecological economist Hans-
Christoph Binswanger will reflect about money - together
with the famous philosopher Peter Sloterdijk. This year our
guests can choose from a total of 33 workshops!

JCT: Though I'm sure the list is littered with people who
think inflation is too much money chasing goods, Shift A,
and are cognitively dissonant to the idea of inflation being
the same money chasing less goods, Shift B, it should still
be a good show. Cognitively dissonant because, though faced
with an explanation of the difference between Shift A and
Shift B, it is rejected from your mind as impossible the
moment you don't have to explain why it's impossible
anymore.

Are you interested in participating in both events? Then
book the "Two-in-One" Package here:
http://buw.konferenz-management.de/frontend/index.php?page_id=3D10619
You will save up to 50 Euros compared to the seperate
registration. Limited availability!

>>> Internationale Fachtagung "MONETARY REGIONALISATION" -
>>> Regional-w=E4hrungen als Katalysatoren einer endogenen
>>> Regionalentwicklungam 28./29. September 2006 an der..

JCT: And they have the whole release in German too. Sadly,
it seems there will be no one with a global vision talking
about the soon-to-be world-wide social time-trading network
I see just over the horizon.

Too bad no one from Islamic banking is there.



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: What an incredibly good database to install a LETS
interest-free timebanking software. It could spread to the
whole Commonwealth in a year! Trading time with Argentina
and Venezuela right over the horizon.

>Subject: [TimeBanksUK@yahoogroups.com]
>Posted by: "Martin Simon" martin@...
>Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:16 am (PDT)

MS: Hi Folks,  I have been talking with the British Legion
about involving Service Families and ex Service people and
their families in time banking. They are so excited by the
prospect that they are offering to fund some pilot projects
this year.

JCT: Kudos to Martin Simon. What a database to score!

MS: We have agreed that a grant of up to =A310,000 will be
given to each of a selection of time banks around the
country for the next twelve months to take this work
forward.

JCT: Next to Hugo Chavez announcing the installation of
social currency in Venezuela last January, this is the best
news for British Commonwealth monetary reformers.

MS: We will have to act fast, closing date for applications
is September, and you will have to show that given the extra
funding you will have the capacity to reach out to service
families. There are some geographical limitations and this
scheme is open, in the first instance, only to members of
Time Banks UK.

JCT: But please make sure to mention that we'll take your
Hours over here in Canada too. I can find your members
accommodations almost anywhere in Canada in exchange for an
IOU for an evening of accommodations in the UK worth 5
Hours.

MS: (If you are not a member yet then please contact Yvonne
ASAP - info@... - 01452 541439). Please contact
me direct if you want to apply for a grant and I am happy to
chat through the idea if you ring me. This is a great
opportunity that could grow and grow and is a potential win
win situation for time banks and for the British Legion.

JCT: And on the Canadian Legion database. And the software
installed on the Australian Legion database. And New
Zealand's. Once the Brit Legion engineer their own timebank
life-boats, others will follow suit. Argentina used their
social currencies to cancel all internal debt while paying
off all external debt with freed-up national currency,
Venezuela is following suit and I'd bet the rest of Latin
America is on the social credits bandwagon.

MS: Waiting to hear from you, all the best, Martin Simon

JCT: Amen to Martin Simon's energy bolt.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: Judge Andre presiding, Chris Leafloor for the Crown.

After Terry asked the judge if I could speak as his agent
and Chris explained a bit of our history, Judge Andre
granted his permission. Of course, Terry's not facing jail
so there's no jeopardy and an agent may even be permitted
for a section 24 application. Regardless, the Crown know
they are now tangling with me and won't get away with
anything.

One mistake I had made in Terry's notice is that I had
forgotten to include my usually standard request explaining
how Terry has the right to audiotape for his notes:

AND TAKE FURTHER NOTICE THAT Applicant seeks approval to
turn on a portable tape recorder pursuant to S.136 of the
Ontario Courts of Justice Act which states that "nothing
prohibits a party acting in person from unobtrusively making
an audio recording of the court hearing for the sole purpose
of supplementing or replacing handwritten notes in the
manner that has been approved by the judge;" or for any
other manner of audio-taping deemed preferable by the court.

JCT: I've only ever one been refused by an older Court of
Appeal judge. But I forgot to include it so the judge would
have read it and I had to wing it. Chris just pointed out
I would be publishing a transcript and I responded it was
more precise than the story out of my memory and notes. But
Judge Andre said we had access to transcripts so he wouldn't
allow it.

Too bad, had he read the actual section, he'd have realized
"nothing prevents" Parker from taping, he only had the power
to object to the how. But too late. So no transcript. The
hearing lasted a good half hour but you only get notes.

I ended my short presentation up to Pitt on the note that it
was granted wearing his criminal jurisdiction hat.

Of course, the Crown's case was that another court had set
aside the Pitt exemption and been backed up all the way. Of
course, we know we requested the Chapnik removal of Parker's
protection be stayed, not the appeal of Chapnik's removal of
his protection itself, but that wasn't distinguished in the
Crown presentation.

And he didn't mention it was in civil courts. I got to
stress how I had earlier ended my presentation on the point
that Justice Pitt's decision was criminal. Now I got to
point out how he had been set aside as a civil default
judgment. "There are no default judgments in criminal law."
Judge Andre's a criminal judge, he should have known there
was something fishy happening by now.

I asked that until Parker was charged, he hold the marijuana
at his home and and he would bring most back to the trial
but the judge said that was the question for the trial judge
and told us to go get a date for the 2-hour trial.

Chris wanted something in December or next year and I wanted
something next month. As the trial co-ordinator was leafing
through the booking list, and she got to December, I asked:
"Are you in December?" "Yes." "That's unacceptable, let's go
see the judge." Instead, she called the judge's clerk and
was told the judge wanted it fast-tracked so she started
looking for a hearing we could be piggy-backed on. Sep 19.

Imagine if this was any other victim having his medicine
withheld while the Crown keeps trying to delay the trial?



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: Without even reading it, I note that to be labelled a
quack by the failed cancer industry has to be a good
recommendation. Don't they decry Vitamin B17, a harmless
vitamin, because it's been shown to often kill cancer?
Haven't they decried marijuana as causing cancer and now
we're finding out it's actually killing cancer! They always
keep you looking 180 degrees away from the truth.

>Virginia Livingston, MD/ Cancer Quack or Medical Genius?
>From: [catapult] Digest Number 1657
>Posted by: "Bob Dunbar" robertaldermandunbar@...
>Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:04 am (PDT)
>From: Alan Cantwell <alancantwell@...>
>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:07 -0700....

I note you have an interest in the late, great Virginia
Livingston MD (1906-1990)-- and her important published
research showing bacteria as a cause of cancer. I have
attached a recent article I wrote about her accomplishments,
with photos of the microbe in breast and prostate cancer and
in Hodgkin's disease -- and a full bibliography with
suggestions for further Internet study. Unfortunately her
work remains largely ignored, unknown, or condemned. This
communication is a small attempt to preserve some record of
her tremendous research pertaining to the etiology of
cancer. The article is also intended as a memorial to honor
the centennial of her birth, which takes place on Dec 28,
2006. Feel free to use the article in any way it might prove
helpful to your own work and cause, and please forward to
interested others. Regards, Alan Cantwell MD

Virginia Livingston, M.D.:
Cancer Quack or Medical Genius?
2006 by Alan Cantwell, M.D., Los Angeles, CA

Cancer is the most frightening human disease and its cause
remains elusive. Therefore, it seems inconceivable that the
discovery of a germ cause of cancer would provoke such
hostility among the cancer establishment. But, in truth, the
belief in a cancer germ has always been the ultimate
scientific heresy. In the long history of cancer research
there was never a physician more outspoken and controversial
than Virginia Wuerthele-Caspe Livingston (1906-1990). For
more than 40 years she championed the revolutionary idea
that bacteria caused cancer and devised a treatment to try
and combat these microbes by immunotherapy. Sixteen years
after her death she is now largely forgotten but still
condemned by such powerful organizations as the American
Cancer Society, and blacklisted on Quackwatch, a self-
proclaimed "non-profit corporation dedicated to combating
health-related frauds, myths, fads, and fallacies."

JCT: Condemned by those who benefit from cancer.

LIVINGSTON'S CANCER RESEARCH

Beginning in the late 1940s, Livingston was able to grow
bacteria from cancer tumors; and when she and her associates
injected cancer bacteria into laboratory animals, some
developed cancer. Other animals developed degenerative and
proliferative diseases, and some animals remained healthy.
Livingston believed the "immunity" of the host was important
factor in determining whether cancer would develop.

In 1969 at a meeting at the New York Academy of Sciences,
Livingston and her colleagues proposed that cancer was
caused by a highly unusual bacterium which she named
Progenitor cryptocides, Greek for 'ancestral hidden killer.'
Nevertheless, Livingston claimed elements of the microbe
were present in every human cell. Due to its biochemical
properties, she believed the organism was responsible for
initiating life and for the healing of tissue, and for
killing us with cancer and other infirmities. Critics of
this research continued to insist there was no such thing as
a cancer germ.

In her attempt to use a variety of modalities (diet,
supplements, antibiotics, as well as traditional methods) to
treat cancer, she utilized an 'autogenous' vaccine derived
from the patient's own cancer bacteria found in the urine
and blood.

JCT: Vaccine derived from good stuff found in urine! So she
developed a vaccine out of the cancer-killers present in the
urine for re-injection. I wonder if there is not another way
to get the cancer-killers in urine back into you?

Livingston explained it was not an anti-cancer vaccine, but
rather a vaccine to help stimulate and improve the patient's
own immune system.

JCT: Sending back dead remnants of cancer, macrophages, so
the immune system can be tricked into producing cancer-
killers.

The administration of this unapproved vaccine caused a furor
in the cancer establishment and eventually legal action was
undertaken against her and the Livingston-Wheeler Clinic in
San Diego. In spite of all her legal troubles, she continued
seeing patients until her death at 83. In March 1990, the
year of her death, a highly critical article on the
Livingston-Wheeler therapy appeared in the American Cancer
Society-sponsored CA: A Cancer Journal for Physicians. (No
authors were listed.) The report advised patients to stay
away from the San Diego clinic and claimed: "Livingston-
Wheeler's cancer treatment is based on the belief that
cancer is caused by a bacterium she has named Progenitor
cryptocides. Careful research using modern techniques,
however, has shown that there is no such organism and that
Livingston-Wheeler has apparently mistaken several different
types of bacteria, both rare and common, for a unique
microbe. In spite of diligent research to isolate a cancer-
causing microorganism, none has been found.

JCT: They claim to have proven a negative. Because they
didn't find it, no one can.

Similarly, Livingston-Wheeler's autologous vaccine cannot be
considered an effective treatment for cancer. While many
oncologists have expressed the hope that someday a vaccine
will be developed against cancer, the cause(s) of cancer
must be determined before research can be directed toward
developing a vaccine. The rationale for other facets of the
Livingston-Wheeler cancer therapy is similarly faulty. No
evidence supports her contention that cancer results from a
defective immune system, that a whole-foods diet restores
immune system deficiencies, that abscisic acid slows tumor
growth, or that cancer is transmitted to humans by
chickens." (The full report is on-line at:
http://caonline.amcancersoc.org/cgi/reprint/40/2/103)

BACTERIA AS A CAUSE OF CANCER

The recognition of disease-producing bacteria allowed
medical science to emerge from the dark ages into the era of
modern medicine. In the late nineteenth century when
diseases like tuberculosis (TB), syphilis, and leprosy were
proven to be caused by bacteria, some doctors also suspected
human cancer might have a similar cause.

The idea that bacteria cause cancer is considered
preposterous by most physicians. However, despite the
antagonistic view of the American Cancer Society and medical
science, there is ample evidence in the published peer-
reviewed literature that strongly suggests that 'cancer
microbes' cause cancer.

According to reports by Livingston and various other
researchers, cancer is caused by pleomorphic, cell wall
deficient bacteria. The various forms of the organism range
in size from submicroscopic virus-like forms, up to the size
of bacteria, yeasts, and fungi. In culture and in tissue the
bacterial forms are variably 'acid-fast' (having a staining
quality like TB bacteria). These bacteria are ubiquitous and
exist in the blood and tissues of all human beings (yet
another 'heresy'). In the absence of a protective immune
response, these cell wall deficient bacteria may become
pathogenic and foster the development of cancer , autoimmune
disease, AIDS, and certain other chronic diseases of unknown
etiology.

Needless to say, all this research fell on dead ears because
bacteria were totally ruled out as the cause of all cancers
in the early years of the twentieth century.

JCT: They had stopped looking and were sure no one else
could ever see what they did not see. How presumptuous?

Thus, bacteria observed in cancer were simply dismissed as
elements of cellular degeneration, or as invaders of tissue
weakened by cancer, or as 'contaminants' of laboratory
origin.

LIVINGSTON AND PROGENITOR CRYPTOCIDES

Beginning in1950, in a series of papers and books,
Livingston and her co-workers claimed the cancer microbe was
a great imitator whose various pleomorphic forms resembled
common staphylococci, diphtheroids, fungi, viruses, and host
cell inclusions. Yet if the germ were studied carefully
through all its transitional stages, it could be identified
as a single agent. She was the first to suggest that the
acid-fast stain was the key to the identification of the
cancer microbe in tissue and in culture; and also
demonstrated its appearance in the blood of cancer patients,
by use of dark-field microscopy.

Anyone who takes the time to read Livingston's reports in
the medical literature will quickly recognize that she was a
credible research scientist, who allied herself with other
experts, and was certainly not the quack doctor pictured by
her detractors. Her achievements in cancer microbiology can
also be found in her autobiographical books: Cancer, A New
Breakthrough (1972); The Microbiology of Cancer (1977); and
The Conquest of Cancer (1984). Her research has been
confirmed by other scientists, such as microbiologist
Eleanor Alexander-Jackson, cell cytologist Irene Diller,
biochemist Florence Seibert, and dermatologist Alan
Cantwell, among others.

THE CANCER MICROBE AND BACTERIAL PLEOMORPHISM

Microbiologists have long resisted the idea of bacterial
pleomorphism, and do not recognize or accept the various
growth forms and the bacterial 'life cycle' proposed by
various cancer microbe workers. Most bacteriologists do not
accept the idea of a bacterium changing from a coccus to a
rod, or to a fungus. Depending on the environment, the
microbe in its cell wall-deficient phase may attain large
size, even larger that a red blood cell. Other forms are
submicroscopic and virus-sized. Electronic microscopic
studies and photographs of filtered (bacteria-free) cultures
of the cancer microbe show virus-size elements of the cancer
microbe that can revert into bacterial-sized microbes.

The cancer microbe has adapted to life in man and animals by
existing in a mycoplasma-like or cell wall deficient state.
In tissue sections of cancer stained for bacteria with the
special acid-fast stain, the microbe can be seen as a
variably acid-fast (blue, red, or purple-stained) round
coccus or as barely visible granules . At magnifications of
one thousand times (in oil), these forms can be observed
within and also outside of the cells.

Careful study and observation of the tiny round coccoid
forms in cancer tissue indicate they can enlarge
progressively up to the size of so-called Russell bodies,
which are well-known to pathologists. Russell bodies can
attain the size of red blood cells, and even larger. William
Russell was a well-respected Scottish pathologist who in
1890 first reported the finding of 'cancer parasites' in the
tissue of all the cancers he studied. However, modern
pathologists deny that Russell's bodies are microbial in
origin.

JCT: The experts on what it's not.

For more information on Russell bodies and Russell's 'cancer
parasite' (and its intimate relationship to cancer
microbes), Google: The forgotten clue to the bacterial cause
of cancer; or go to:
http://www.joimr.org/phorum/read.php?f=3D2&i=3D50&t=3D50

OVERLOOKING HIDDEN BACTERIA IN CANCER

Once bacteria were eliminated as a cause of cancer a century
ago, it became dogma and impossible to change medical
opinion. In this current era of medical science, one would
think it impossible for infectious disease experts and
pathologists to not recognize bacteria in cancer. However,
bacteria can still pop up in diseases in which they were
initially overlooked.

When a new and deadly lung disease broke out among
legionnaires in Philadelphia in July 1976, two hundred
twenty-two people became ill and thirty-four died. The cause
of the killer lung disease remained a medical mystery for
over five months until Joe McDade at the Leprosy Branch of
the CDC detected unusual bacteria in guinea pigs
experimentally infected with lung tissue from the dead
legionnaires. Further modification of bacterial culture
methods finally allowed the isolation of the causative and
previously overlooked bacteria, now known as Legionella
pneumophila.

Yet another example of dogma-defying research is provided by
recent studies proving that bacteria (Helicobacter pylori)
are a common cause of stomach ulcers, which can sometimes
lead to stomach cancer and lymphoma. For a century,
physicians refused to believe bacteria caused ulcers because
they thought bacteria could not live in the acid environment
of the stomach. In 2005 the Nobel Prize in Medicine was
awarded to two Australian researchers for their 1982
discovery. These stomach bacteria could only be detected by
use of special tissue stains. The CDC now claims that H.
pylori causes more than 90% of duodenal ulcers and 80% of
gastric ulcers. Approximately two-thirds of the world's
population is infected with these microbes.

In the past four years there have been medical reports of
newly discovered bacteria in serious lymph node disease; in
Hodgkin's lymphoma; in cancer of the mouth; and in prostate
cancer, to name only a few. All these studies prove bacteria
can pop up in diseases where they are least expected. Such a
caveat is appropriate for doctors who think they know
everything about cancer and who pooh-pooh all aspects of
cancer microbe research.

A CENTURY OF CANCER MICROBE RESEARCH

Livingston never claimed that she was the discoverer of the
microbe of cancer. In her writings she always gave credit to
various scientists, some dating back to the nineteenth
century, who attempted to prove that bacteria cause cancer.
Some of these remarkable researchers include the long-
forgotten cancer microbe studies of Scottish obstetrician
James Young, Chicago physician John Nuzum, Montana surgeon
James Scott, the infamous psychiatrist and cancer researcher
Wilhelm Reich, microscopist Raymond Royal Rife, and others
too numerous to mention.

This cancer microbe research has been explored in my books
The Cancer Microbe: The Hidden Killer in Cancer, AIDS, and
Other Immune Diseases [1990] and in Four Women Against
Cancer: Bacteria, Cancer, and the Origin of Life
[2005], the story of Livingston, Alexander-Jackson, Diller
and Seibert, four outstanding women scientists who attempted
to bring the cancer microbe to the attention of a
disinterested medical establishment. I was privileged to
have met all these remarkable women, who greatly influenced
my own cancer research.

Why is research exploring bacteria in cancer so strongly
opposed? Perhaps it poses a threat to the money interests
involved in the established and orthodox treatment for
cancer. Various forms of cancer treatment include surgery,
radiation and chemotherapy. These therapies might have to be
reevaluated if it were proven that cancer was an infectious
disease.

SUGGESTIONS FOR FURTHER INTERNET STUDY

Further information pertaining to cancer microbe research
(both pro and con) can be found by Googling: cancer microbe;
bacterial pleomorphism; cell wall deficient bacteria; "alan
cantwell"; "virginia livingston"; "Eleanor Alexander-
Jackson"; as well as other names and key words mentioned in
this communication.

For a list of scientific publications pertaining to the
microbiology of cancer, go to the PubMed website hosted by
the National Institute of Health (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) and
type in "Cantwell AR", "Livingston VW", "Alexander-Jackson
E", "Diller IC", "Seibert FB", etc. in the search box.

This short communication is unlikely to convince many health
professionals that bacteria cause cancer. However, after
four decades of studying cancer microbes in cancerous
tissue, I am personally convinced that Dr. Virginia
Livingston will one day be vindicated and recognized as one
of the greatest medical geniuses of the twentieth century.

Ralph W Moss, cancer advocate and author of The Cancer
Industry, notes her passing was =93a major loss to the
cancer world.=94 In the Cancer Chronicles #6, 1990, he
writes, =93Virginia Livingston was a great person and a
great scientist. Sadly, she never received the recognition
she deserved in her lifetime. The true scope of her
achievements will only become known in years to come.

This report honors the centennial of her birth which takes
place on December 28, 2006.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:

Alexander-Jackson E. A specific type of microorganism
isolated from animal and human cancer: bacteriology of the
organism. Growth. 1954 Mar;18(1):37-51.

Cantwell AR. Variably acid-fast cell wall-deficient bacteria
as a possible cause of dermatologic disease. In, Domingue GJ
(Ed). Cell Wall Deficient Bacteria. Reading: Addison-Wesley
Publishing Co; 1982. Pp. 321-360.

Cantwell A. The Cancer Microbe. Los Angeles: Aries Rising
Press; 1990.

Cantwell A. Four Women Against Cancer. Los Angeles: Aries
Rising Press; 2005.

Diller IC, Diller WF. Intracellular acid-fast organisms
isolated from malignant tissues. Trans Amer Micr Soc. 1965;
84:138-148.

Greenberg DE, Ding L, Zelazny AM, Stock F, Wong A, Anderson
VL, Miller G, Kleiner DE, Tenorio AR, Brinster L, Dorward
DW, Murray PR, Holland SM. A novel bacterium associated with
lymphadenitis in a patient with chronic granulomatous
disease. PLoS Pathog. 2006 Apr;2(4):e28. Epub 2006 Apr 14.

Hooper SJ, Crean SJ, Lewis MA, Spratt DA, Wade WG, Wilson
MJ. Viable bacteria present within oral squamous cell
carcinoma tissue. J Clin Microbiol. 2006 May;44(5):1719-25.

Nuzum JW. The experimental production of metastasizing
carcinoma of the breast of the dog and primary epithelioma
in man by repeated inoculation of a micrococcus isolated
from human breast cancer. Surg Gynecol Obstet. 1925; 11;343-
352.

Russell W. An address on a characteristic organism of
cancer. Br Med J. 1890; 2:1356-1360.

Russell W. The parasite of cancer. Lancet. 1899;1:1138-1141.

Sauter C, Kurrer MO. Intracellular bacteria in Hodgkin's
disease and sclerosing mediastinal B-cell lymphoma: sign of
a bacterial etiology?

Swiss Med Wkly. 2002 Jun 15;132(23-24):312-5.

Scott MJ. The parasitic origin of carcinoma. Northwest Med.
1925;24:162-166.

Seibert FB, Feldmann FM, Davis RL, Richmond IS.
Morphological, biological, and immunological studies on
isolates from tumors and leukemic bloods. Ann N Y Acad Sci.
1970 Oct 30;174(2):690-728.

Shannon BA, Garrett KL, Cohen RJ. Links between
Propionibacterium acnes and prostate cancer. Future Oncol.
2006 Apr;2(2):225-32. Review.

Wuerthele Caspe-Livingston V, Alexander-Jackson E, Anderson
JA, et al. Cultural properties and pathogenicity of certain
microorganisms obtained from various proliferative and
neoplastic diseases. Amer J Med Sci. 1950; 220;628-646.

Wuerthele-Caspe Livingston V, Livingston AM. Demonstration
of Progenitor cryptocides in the blood of patients with
collagen and neoplastic diseases. Trans NY Acad Sci. 1972;
174 (2):636-654.

Young J. Description of an organism obtained from
carcinomatous growths. Edinburgh Med J. 1921; 27:212-221.

[Dr. Alan Cantwell is a retired dermatologist and the author
of THE CANCER MICROBE and FOUR WOMEN AGAINST CANCER, both
available from Aries Rising Press, PO Box 29532, Los
Angeles, CA 90029 (www.ariesrisingpress.com). Email:
alancantwell@.... Abstracts of 30 published papers
can be found at the PubMed website ( type in Cantwell AR).
Many of his personal writings can be found on www.google.com
by using key words "alan cantwell" + articles. His books are
also available on www.amazon.com and through Book Clearing
House @ 1-800-431-1579] Virginia Livingston MD (1906-1990)

JCT: It sure would explain why those 600 doctors at the
1996 Urine Therapy Conference in India were claiming a 73%
cure rate for cancer! That's what got my attention. Once
again:

"to treat cancer, "she utilized an 'autogenous' vaccine
derived from the patient's own cancer bacteria found in the
urine and blood."

That's where the kidneys get the cancer-killers, from out of
the blood for distribution to the outside world.


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JCT: In my last report: Crown's pulls "fait accomplit"
shuffle on Parker, I mentioned how the Crown told the court
they needed time to examine Parker on his affidavit. With
the hearing for Canada's most famous court-exempted Canadian
over having his mail searched for pot by Canada Post and
getting it returned happening on Monday, Crown Chris
Leafloor still hasn't filed any papers or held the needed
documentary materials Crown Geoffrey Roy told the court
would be needed.

So it looks like they're going to try another "fait
accomplit" shuffle, make the judge bend to their demand by
walking in to say: "We're unprepared, we insist you delay,
in our respectful submission." And the judge usually has no
choice.

The Crown has only the rulings from our playing for Parker
criminal exemption with the kangaroos over in civil court.
Criminal Superior Court granted Parker an extension of the
Ontario Court of Appeal's constitutional exemption until the
government has complied with the court's ruling. Rather than
appealing that criminal ruling, Crown Lara Speirs decided to
ask Civil Superior Court to set aside the Criminal Superior
Court ruling like a Civil Superior Court "default" judgment
that a judge has given no thought to may be set aside.
Criminal law doesn't have "default judgments signed by
default." But Civil Superior Court Justice Sandra Chapnik
ruled she was setting aside the Criminal Superior Court
exemption extension granted to Parker by Criminal Superior
Court Judge Pitt.

Because criminal law doesn't have "default judgments" which
can be set aside, I knew Parker's Pitt protection was still
valid but I decide to play along with the kangaroos and
appeal Chapnik's Civil Superior Court decision to remove
Parker's Criminal Superior Court protection to the Civil
Ontario Court of Appeal. Har har har har.

And, with an appeal pending in Civil Ontario Court of
Appeal, I have Terry move ask to stay Chapnik's civil
removal of Pitt's protection pending his appeal. Justice
Feldman ruled that Parker should remain unexempted pending
his civil appeal.

So I had Parker file an Application for Leave to Appeal to
the Supreme Court of Canada to get the setting aside of his
Pitt protection stayed his leave to appeal. No dice.
Justices Gonthier Major Arbour dismissed Terry's application
for a stay of removing his protection pending his
application.


to have the civil Feldman ruling refusing
to stay Chapnik's civil ruling setting aside Pitt's criminal
protection overturned and Parker's Pitt protection re-
instated in civil court pending his civil leave application.

Finally, the Ontario Court of Appeal panel of Justices
Doherty, Goudge and Simmons who handed down the notorious
Hitzig "resurrection Order," and R. v. Turmel "no need to
reprint the legislation because judges can remember which
written laws no longer are valid," also handed down a
decision on our civil appeal of Superior Court's civil
ruling setting aside Justice Pitt's criminal ruling as a
civil default judgment.

Of course, by then, I had already made my presentation for
Terry to them within our Big Five Appeals and they couldn't
argue Chapnik was correct because it was a "default
judgment" when there aren't any in Criminal law.

So they resorted to an even more ludicrous cop-out, that it
was proper to set a Superior Court ruling aside because
there had been improper service!! Superior Courts have the
power to dispense with service altogether and hear
applications "on short notice." Superior Courts can hear
motions "ex parte," without even having the other party
there. No improper service is possible before a Superior
Court that has decided to act. Har har har har har. There
can't be any such thing as improper service if the judge
says it's okay. Except for Justice Pitt, it seems.

So that's Terry's case. The Crown is going to try to spin
those civil kangaroo court decisions into the argument that
Parker's Pitt criminal exemption was properly removed by
civil court. All Terry can say is "civil can't apply to
criminal."

So if he loses his marijuana, it will be a travesty of
justice, another in a long line so far. Of course, everyone
knows it goes north to the Court of Appeal right away.

Still, if all they want more pure delay, too bad. It's
Parker's medicine. They know where it is and where it is
going to be stored, where it always is and is always stored,
with no danger of Terry trying to hide the evidence of the
crime. They can renew the challenge any time so there is no
real reason for them to hold on to the pot pending hearing.

So it's unreasonable to deprive Parker of his medicine under
his not-yet-challenged criminal exemption pending it.

And we still haven't found out about Canada Post's policy of
searching our mail for pot. Must spread the word. And buy
shares in UPS.


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for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
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>Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:59:21 -0400 (EDT)
>From: james haarp <cosmicto@...>
>Subject: cosmic horizons broadcast
>To: johnturmel@...

Morning John, and thanks for the response. I can book you in
for the show on July 16 at 8.45 pm on Cosmic Horizons on
http://www.natradio.com

If you can send me a contact number along with articles ,or
info that you would like to submit for the show it would
benefit the interview in whole.

Thanks John and we will be talking to you.
James Haarp
Cosmic Horizons http://www.thecosmichorizon.com
on internet radio show http://www.natradio.com




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JCT: Terry just got this fax:

SUPREME COURT OF CANADA

July 5 2006

ORDER
MOTION

TERRANCE PARKER v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
(Ont 31245)

ROTHSTEIN J.

UPON APPLICATION by the applicant for reconsideration of the
Order of the Registrar dismissing his application for leave
to appeal as abandoned and requesting the following relief:
a) declaring that pursuant to section 59(4) of the Act,
Section 58 time deadlines do not apply to applications for
leave to appeal in forma pauperis; or b) granting an
extension of time to serve and file an application for leave
to appeal, if section 59(4) does not apply,

AND THE MATERIAL FILED having been read;
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT:
This motion is dismissed.
Rothstein, J.S.C.C.

JCT: So another of Canada's highest judges disgraces himself
by dismissing Canada's most important medical genocide case
on a technicality. Binnie and Rothstein, Justices, have
blood on their hands.



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>Subject: [catapult] Digest Number 1623
>Pot Kills Cancer Cells
>Posted by: "Big Bodie" fluttergas@... fluttergas
>Date: Sat Jul 8, 2006 4:16 pm (PDT)

>http://www.sierratimes.com/03/11/07/article_kubby.htm

A new study published in Nature Reviews-Cancer provides an
historic and detailed explanation about how THC and natural
cannabinoids counteract cancer, but preserve normal cells.

The study by Manuel Guzm=E1n of Madrid Spain found that
cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana, inhibit
tumor growth in laboratory animals. They do so by modulating
key cell-signalling pathways, thereby inducing direct growth
arrest and death of tumor cells, as well as by inhibiting
the growth of blood vessels that supply the tumor.

The Guzman study is very important according to Dr. Ethan
Russo, a neurologist and world authority on medical
cannabis: "Cancer occurs because cells become immortalized;
they fail to heed normal signals to turn off growth. A
normal function of remodelling in the body requires that
cells die on cue. This is called apoptosis, or programmed
cell death. That process fails to work in tumors. THC
promotes its reappearance so that gliomas, leukemias,
melanomas and other cell types will in fact heed the
signals, stop dividing, and die."

"But, that is not all," explains Dr. Russo: "The other way
that tumors grow is by ensuring that they are nourished:
they send out signals to promote angiogenesis, the growth of
new blood vessels. Cannabinoids turn off these signals as
well. It is truly incredible, and elegant."

In other words, this article explains several ways in which
cannabinoids might be used to fight cancer, and, as the
article says, "Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated, and
do not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional
chemotherapies.

Usually, any story that even suggests the possibility of a
new treatment for cancer is greeted with headlines about a
"cancer cure" - however remote in the future and improbable
in fact it might be. But if marijuana is involved, don't
expect any coverage from mainstream media, especially since
mainstream editors have been quietly killing this story for
the past thirty years.

That's right, news about the abilility of pot to shrink
tumors first surfaced, way back in 1974.

Researchers at the Medical College of Virginia, who had been
funded by the National Institutes of Health to find evidence
that marijuana damages the immune system, found instead that
THC slowed the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice --
lung and breast cancer, and a virus-induced leukemia.

The Washington Post reported on the 1974 study -- in the
"Local" section -- on Aug.  18, 1974.  Under the headline,
"Cancer Curb Is Studied," it read in part:

"The active chemical agent in marijuana curbs the growth of
three kinds of cancer in mice and may also suppress the
immunity reaction that causes rejection of organ
transplants, a Medical College of Virginia team has
discovered." The researchers "found that THC slowed the
growth of lung cancers, breast cancers, and a virus-induced
leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as
much as 36 percent."

"News coverage of the Madrid discovery has been virtually
nonexistent in this country. The news broke quietly on Feb.
29, 2000 with a story that ran once on the UPI wire about
the Nature Medicine article," complained MarijuanaNews.com
editor Richard Cowan , who said he was only able to find the
article through a link that appeared briefly on the Drudge
Report Web page. "The New York Times, The Washington Post,
and Los Angeles Times all ignored the story, even though its
newsworthiness is indisputable: a benign substance occurring
in nature destroys deadly brain tumors," added Cowan.

On March 29, 2001, the San Antonio Current printed a
carefully researched bombshell of a story by Raymond Cushing
titled, "POT SHRINKS TUMORS; GOVERNMENT KNEW IN '74." Media
coverage since then has been nonexistant, except for a copy
of the story on Alternet.

It is hard to believe that the knowledge that cannabis can
be used to fight cancer has been suppressed for almost
thirty years,  yet it seems likely that it will continue to
be suppressed.  Why?

According to Cowan, the answer is because it is a threat to
cannabis prohibition. "If this article and its predecessors
from 2000 and 1974 were the only evidence of the suppression
of medical cannabis, then one might perhaps be able to
rationalize it in some herniated way. However, there really
is massive proof that the suppression of medical cannabis
represents the greatest failure of the institutions of a
free society, medicine, journalism, science, and our
fundamental values," Cowan notes.

Millions of people have died horrible deaths and in many
cases, familes exhausted their savings on dangerous, toxic
and expensive drugs.  Now we are beginning to realize that
while marijuana has never killed anyone, marijuana
prohibition has killed millions.

JCT: And I only accused Justices Doherty Goudge and Simmons
for the deaths of the greater than 3000 epileptics who died
since their ruling pretenting they brought the criminal
prohibition on medicine back to life. Now I can add cancer
victims over the past 2.5 years to their K-slab too.

Prohibiting medicine is genocide, obvious to a child,
cognitively dissonant to adults.



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JCT: Yesterday Terry Parker got an email from Crown Attorney
Geoffrey Roy informing Terry that they were looking to stall
his motion for the return of his controlled substance:

>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:32:12 -0400
>From: terryparkerjr@... ("Terry  Parker Jr.")
>Subject: Fw: Application under s.24 of CDSA
>To: medpot-discuss@yahoogroups.com
----- Original Message -----
>From: "Roy, Geoffrey" <GEROY@...>
>To: <terryparkerjr@...>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:19 PM
>Subject: Application under s.24 of CDSA

Mr. Parker, I attempted to fax a letter to 416.632.2334, but
was informed the number had been disconnected. I have
attached the letter below in S word format and I have pasted
the text of that letter in this email.

June 20, 2006
Mr. Terrence Parker
2209-55 Triller Av.
Toronto, Ont. M6R 2H6

GR: Dear :Sir
Re: Application For Return Of Controlled Substances

This letter is to inform you that on the next day, (21 June
2006), the Crown will ask that this matter be set down for a
hearing sometime in the fall.

JCT: And they hope Terry dies for want of medicine before
then?

GR: This is to allow the Crown to file responding materials

JCT: They've only had a couple of months since they
concluded their thorough investigation denying Terry his
anti-seizure herb but haven't been able to put it together
yet?

GR: and to allow for cross-examination on affidavits in
front of a special examiner.

JCT: We've seen this dodge before. They say that something
completely simple needs more examination and then they later
call it off. But who can call them on it now before they
prove it was a move by not doing it? But they're stalled
before on the basis of needed examinations which they then
called off. Just another handy option to sleaze delay.

GR: Yours truly,
Geoffrey Roy Crown Counsel geoffrey.roy@...
Federal Prosecution Service. Ontario Regional Office
Department of Justice Canada Government of Canada
tel.(416) 952-2095 fax. (416) 973-8253

When we got to the Brampton court, Terry's name wasn't on the
docket. It was as huge court-house with many courts and
Terry had been told we were to be in Room #309.

The clerk said Parker's motion wasn't on the docket.
Fortunately, Geoffrey Roy was there so they knew something
was going on. But where was the file? She asked Terry where
he filed it, he said downstairs, but she never found it.
Terry had to give the court his copy.

Finally, Judge J.E. Allen entered the court and Terry's case
was called first.

Roy said the Crown wanted a date set for a pre-trial. Though
the application seemed simple, experience showed it was
going to get complicated. The Crown wanted time to prepare
materials and examine Parker on his affidavit because this
will be going to appeal.

Judge Allen asked if this was "the Terry Parker" and when
Roy said it was, he asked "so what's your problem, he's an
exemptee." Ray said he doesn't have an exemption.

Terry interrupted and pointed out he had an constitutional
exemption granted by the Ontario Court of Appeal extended by
Superior Court Ontario Justice Pitt.

Roy responded that the Pitt protection had been set aside by
his equal, Superior Justice Sandra Chapnik (upon the
recommendation of Crown Lara Speirs and Terry's Amicus
Curiae Alan Young). Roy handed up her decision.

Then he handed in the Feldman decision which had refused
Terry a stay of Chapnik's decision setting aside his Pitt
protection pending his appeal to the Ontario Court of
Appeal.

Then Roy handed in the Supreme Court of Canada decision
which refused Terry's application for leave to appeal
against Feldman's refusal to stay Chapnik's ruling that set
aside Parker's Pitt protection and for a stay pending his
application for leave to appeal. No.

Finally, he handed up the Ontario Court of Appeal's ruling
which said they agreed with Justice Chapnik setting aside
the Pitt decision because Terry's motion had been improperly
served.

Har har har har. What goes around comes around. I had
prepared Parker with only one rebuttal. The Court of Appeal
and Pitt Protection Orders are Criminal. The Unprotection
Order are Civil.

Har har har har.

The Chapnik decision is civil jurisdiction Order setting
aside the criminal jurisdiction Order of Justice Pitt as a
civil "default judgment." Pitt's criminal Order could not be
a default judgment because there are no default judgments in
criminal law. Har har har har. If you don't file a defence,
you are not convicted by default like in civil courts. THERE
ARE NO CRIMINAL DEFAULT JUDGMENTS. I just appealed all those
civil court Orders as a joke, toying with them to see if I
could get the Kangaroo Court Order set aside in the Kangaroo
Appeal Courts. I appealed the baseless Chapnik civil appeal
to toy with and misdirect them. Pay-back time.

The real problem for the government when Justice Pitt
extended Terry's Court of Appeal constitutional exemption
was his qualifier "until the government has complied with
the court's ruling." This is a correct conclusion that the
regulations had failed so far to safety Parker. And it was
now too late to comply within the 1 year deadline.

I reported on how Crown Lara Speirs and Alan Young tried to
talk Terry into trading his Pitt exemption in exchange for a
Ministerial Section 56 Exemption and how I nixed giving up
Pitt's "until the government has complied with the court's
ruling" for any piece of toilet paper from the Minister's
office without that conclusion. Pitt's conclusions helped us
all. Terry getting a section 56 worked only for Terry.

We know Krieger got the same deal, a personal exemption for
him so he didn't go for what was good for the whole and try
to claim his victory by setting aside the O'Leary stay on is
victory. To this day, Krieger has not moved to lift the
O'Leary stay so Max Cornelssen got busted due to Krieger
taking a personal win in exchange for his Canada-wide one.
Terry Parker had the choice that day to take the same
government deal as Krieger or to hold out for all of us. He
turned down the ministerial offer and kept Pitt's conclusion
alive for all of us.

So now Speirs and Young had to find some other way to get
rid of the Pitt conclusion that the government has not yet
complied with the court's ruling" while it's too late but
they didn't want to take the official route against the Pitt
conclusion to a 3-judge panel at the Court of Appeal and
overturn Pitt's Order but chose to try to set aside Pitt's
Criminal jurisdiction Order as a civil default judgment!!!

So at the Chapnik hearing upon the Crown's motion to set
aside the Pitt decision as a default judgment, the Crown
asked if Professor Alan Young could speak as a friend of the
Court in Terry's name. Justice Chapnik asked Terry if that
was okay, Terry had no reason to distrust his "friend" Alan
and said sure, Alan said he agreed with the Crown that the
Pitt decision was "not worth the paper it was printed on"
and should be set aside. The judge ruled, upon the agreement
of both sides, that the Pitt decision should be set aside as
a default judgment.

But then, Superior Court Judge Chapnik offered Terry a
constitutional exemption of her own, just like Pitt's,
except it wouldn't be "until the government has complied
with the court's ruling,' since the Crown were alleging the
MMAR had complied with the Parker Court's ruling.

I knew Pitt's criminal Order couldn't be set aside as a
default judgment since there are no default judgments in
criminal law and just because both sides asked that the Pitt
decision be treated as as a civil judgment, it didn't make
it so. So I told Terry to refuse to agree to his Pitt
conclusion (for all of us) being set aside. So Terry walked
out of there with a civil order stating his Criminal Order
had been set aside, me reassuring him that no one could set
Pitt's Order aside except at 3-judge criminal panel of the
Ontario Court of Appeal. Alan Young accuses me, after he
helped the Crown remove is Pitt protection, of costing Terry
is personal Chapnik protection. A sacrifice I'm proud to
think Terry chose to make. He didn't sell out for Alan
Young's bribe of Chapnik protection, as good as Pitt's, just
without the important conclusion.

You can always tell what important to your opponent but what
he aims at and resisting, even in kangaroo court, lets you
know what he wants. The whole purpose of the civil kangaroo
court was to get Parker to believe his real criminal court
Pitt decision had been removed. And the best way to let them
keep thinking we were resisting that way was to play along
and keep fighting the phantom civil order . So I did.

I appealed the Order from the civil kangaroo court to a
civil kangaroo court of appeal. And to a civil kangaroo
Supreme Court of Canada for his stay. I didn't get justice
in removing the phantom set-aside Order, all the while
knowing it didn't matter because the real Pitt Order could
not be a default judgment since it was criminal even if they
say it was set aside by one equivalent judge.

And finally, in the actual appeal of the Civil Chapnik Order
setting aside the Criminal Pitt Order, the court of appeal
dropped the "default" argument and ruled Chapnik was right
to set aside the Pitt decision because Terry's motion had
been improperly served.

Superior Court Justice Pitt had power to exempt service and
have an short notice and even ex parte hearing. He cannot
have been wrong in issuing his Superior Court Order because
there had been insufficient service. There couldn't have
been insufficient service because there no need for service
at all to a Superior Court judge with the power to dispense
with service as all Superior Courts have the power to do.

Har har har har. What a ludicrous error to hang their
decision on and it's all coming into play now.

Court of Appeal Justices Doherty, Goudge and Simmons not
only erred in their Hitzig resurrection, erred in not
needing to amend the Criminal Code with the Parker and
Krieger invalidations since judges will remember which
written laws actually are invalid, after having previously
failed to remember before having to stay 4000 bogus
indictments, the same three also erred in saying Pitt acted
wrongly by issuing an order upon improper service when Pitt
J. had the power to issue an Order upon no service at all!

Har har har har. And now the Crown has introduced all the
evidence of orders from the civil kangaroo courts while
Parker gets to laugh at how they all didn't remember that
that criminal Superior Court Orders can't be improperly
served nor set aside in civil courts.

Har har har har. Remember, I never even appealed this Court
of Appeal decision endorsing the phantom civil Chapnik
ruling. I only went to the top with the 1) Parker / Turmel &
3rd Guy / Hitzig resurrection decision because they were
important to the cause and 2) R.v. Turmel (no re-print
necessary, we'll remember what written laws don't count)
decision and . I didn't deem it worth applying for leave to
appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada a civil kangaroo court
of appeal ruling endorsing a civil kangaroo court order
setting aside a criminal court Order for the mere amusement
value and dropped it at that point.

Now, whether the bogus civil proceedings really did strip
Parker of his criminal court protection is the crux. That's
what's so neat about this case. The Crown must try to trump
Parker's real criminal Court Pitt Order with bogus civil
court proceedings that the Pitt decision was wrongly
settled.

You don't call a Superior Court Judge's criminal decision
wrongly settled and set it aside like a civil default
judgment, you may only appeal a Superior Court judge's
decision to 3-higher judges. It's insulting for them to
argue Pitt erred without having gone into it.

And now that their dirty deed gets it's airing, let's see
how the Crown tries to explain the relation of their bogus
civil proceedings to Parker's actual criminal Order. Now
they're on the hook to put it all down on paper, how these
civil judgments setting aside a criminal Order as a civil
default judgment may be done for the first time in Canadian
history. Why? Back to Crown Greg Smith's argument to Judge
Edward: "They wouldn't have done it it if they couldn't have
done it so they can." Judge Edward proceeded with the
prosecution upon that to substantiate that the Court had
taken the law into its own hands when Parliament had left
the law invalid for two years to bring it back to life.

But Terry just repeated to the Judge Allen that Pitt was
criminal while Chapnik was civil and had no power to set
aside the Pitt decision. Judge Allen said he thought it was
possible but I'd bet he misunderstood the situation. Sure,
Superior Court judges can wear either hat, civil or
criminal, but they can't use their civil powers in criminal
matters or vice versa. Sure, one civil judge can set aside a
civil "default Order" that no judge had spent any time
thinking about but it takes three judges to set aside a
"criminal Order" that a judge has spend some time thinking
about. There are no judgments issued by default in criminal
law so Criminal Orders can't be set aside as civil default
judgments.

Their trying their scam to trick Parker into switching to a
Chapnik exemption without the Pitt exemption's conclusion in
the wrong court is one reason I laugh at Alan "Wrong-Way"
Young. He lost his Wakeford case against Health Canada in
provincial court when I've known for years only Federal
Court has jurisdiction over federal Health Canada. Helping
the Crown strip Parker of his Pitt criminal court protection
in civil court seems just another in a long line of backward
planning by the Crown Court Clutz or Professeur Saboteur
Alan "stab-Parker-in-the-back" Young.

Then Geoffrey Roy pulled the Crown's "fait accomplit"
shuffle on Parker. He said he wasn't even the Crown who had
been given carriage of the case, Chris Leafloor wouldn't be
available until July. No materials had been filed in
response. So, without the proper Crown, without any Crown
materials, the judge may as well grant the request for
adjournment the Crown had, by fait accomplit, demanded the
Court obey.

Chris Leafloor is one of the Crown's who argued police could
keep busting Canadians during 2001, 2002, and 2003 because
the MMAR had worked to save the prohibition from the Parker
invalidation. Eventually, the Court of Appeal proved him
wrong and admitted that the law had been dead for the
previous two years so Chris, nice guy, is responsible for
tens of thousands of those bogus convictions that happened
while Turmel was screaming the law had been invalidated and
he was telling the cops doing the busting to keep on busting
because Turmel was wrong. Either I was wrong and he helped
justice prevail or I was right and he wronged tens of
thousands of Canadians. Once the Court of Appeal ruled that
Chris was wrong, he became responsible for all those bogus
convictions while he was wrong to resist the truth. A sad
fate, much like a Hiroshima bomber would feel except Chris
victims were the epileptics who wouldn't have died if he
hadn't misled them into believing their anti-seizure
medicine was still illegal and the thousands of families
devastated by criminal prosecutions initiated at his
instigation. Poor Leafloor with blood on his hands. Even a
nice executioner is an executioner. And posterity will
forever know of is prostitution to the prohibitionist cause.
Of course, that's what lawyers are trained to do, with no
regard to the corpses that result from their efforts.

Though Terry insisted that if they could not charge him with
possession, they could not seize his medicine. I'd laughed
that they had completed their investigation enough to deny
him his medicine but now they needed more time to do more
investigation? They cut off his supply without full
deliberation? Why should he go without while they try to
prove the "the Terry Parker" is not exempted. "Charge me or
give me my marijuana." Besides, they know where the pot's
going to be whenever they do decide Pitt no longer protects
him.

The final joke is if they're right, it also proves their
exemption system doesn't work for Terry Parker and has not
complied with the Parker court's ruling! And the law is
still as unconstitutional now as it was when Parker won in
2000.

But Judge Allen had no choice but to obey the Crown's motion
for an adjournment and sent Terry and Roy off to the Trial
Coordinator to pick a future date. Back against Leafloor for
a two-hour pre-trial on July 17 2006 at 10am.

It should be quite the show. And they will have had their
chance to examine Terry on his affidavit. Any bets they
don't bother?

What high adventure. And you won't hear about it on the Big
Media. I sent out faxes to 90 local media. You'll only hear
it on the TURMEL news network. I enjoyed the show and
reporting on the show knowing it's pay-back time as we get
to fight it out with the civil kangaroo proceedings. I've
waited a long time to argue what I think of the Court of
Appeal's civil Order endorsing Chapnik's civil Order setting
aside Pitt's criminal Order.

Har har har har. I'll always love saying that one. First
time since it was handed down in 2003, over 2 years ago.



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
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JCT: I had asked the Ontario Court of Appeal Chief Justice
Roy McMurtry for a 5-judge panel because the appeals of
Pierre Drouin, Real Martin and John Turmel are challenging
the Hitzig and Turmel decisions made by 3 judges:

Senior Legal Officer
Court of Appeal for Ontario,
130 Queen Street West,
Toronto, Ontario M5H 2N5,
Tel/fax: 416-327-5020/5032

June 12 2006

Dear Mr. Turmel:

Re: Regina v. Turmel, John, No: C44587
Re: Regina v. Turmel, John, No: C44588
Re: Regina v. Drouin, Pierre, No: C44683
Re: Regina v. Martin, Real, No: C44684

Chief Justice McMurtry has not had an opportunity to
consider the request made by each appellant that the court
empanel five judges to hear this group of four appeals.
After giving due consideration to the requests and to the
positions of the parties, the Chief Justice has instructed
that I advise you that these appeals will be heard by a
court composed of three judges only.

I trust the foregoing is clear but if you have inquiries,
please do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours truly,
John KromKamp

Cc: Pierre Drouin, Real Martin, Ms. Kelly Low

JCT: Imagine if we're told the court can't help because they
need 5 judges! It looks like there's a pretty good chance
that we'll lose our case because three judges can't overrule
the 3 other judges. I wonder what they'll do to correct
Justice McMurtry's error unless the fix is in.

Now we just need a date and the Three MedPot Musketeers will
be in Ontario's highest court challenging their past
decision before a panel without the power to do anything.


--
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for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
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>Grant Krieger in Court June 20 / 2006
>http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1256440&page=2&v\
iew=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
>KanMan journeyman
>Date: #1256440 - Sat Jun 10 2006

Grant is in court June 20 / 2006 for the Calgary 420 April
20 (420) / 2006 Meet and Greet event ticket he received.
Grant and I go to see the lawyer on Tuesday morning for
another meeting. I will be a witness for the defense. I have
also gathered a number of written and signed statments for
us as well (lawyer has them).
See complete thread at
http://Calgary420.ca/forum/index.php/topic,308.0.html

April 20 / 2006 Calgary 420 Marijuana Community Meet and
Greet event. Grant Krieger was at the event as a celebrity
guest speaker. Grant was given a $100.00 ticket for
disturbing the peace. Additionally the Calgary Police
Service (CPS) seized all of Grant Krieger's legal medical
marijuana.

Grant gets a disability pension of less then $800.00
Canadian funds per month. Grant needs your financial help
NOW PLEASE! See
http://Calgary420.ca/kriegerfoundation/donate.html or
contact myself for details on which banks donations will be
accepted at.Keith Fagin (403) 863-2071
Grant Krieger enjoying the Calgary 420 event...
Grant Krieger ticketed by the Calgary Police Service at the
Calgary 420 event
The ticket given to Grant Krieger by the Calgary Police
Service
Edited by KanMan (Sat Jun 10 2006 10:02 AM)
---

JCT: Let's recall how many times the Crown bemoaned the
danger of Grant Krieger moving to lift the Order staying his
victory and luckily Grant did not. So, a post from the past
to let the narc moles know their betrayals remain etched in
medpot history forever:

>TURMEL: Many busted because of Gutless Grant Krieger?
>From:  John Turmel bc726@...
>Date:  Thurs, Feb 26 2004 7:33 pm
Groups: alt.fan.john-turmel, can.politics, alt.drugs,
sci.econ, sci.engr, alt.conspiracy, can.legal

>JCT: I've been reading a litany of different stories about
people still being charged with marijuana crimes. Two weeks
ago, we were given the official reason why Grant Krieger
isn't moving to fulfill the Crown's greatest fear succinctly
stated twice in their Supreme Court Memorandum:

"as matters now stand s.7(1) has been declared of no force
and effect by the highest court in Alberta. An application
to vacate the order of O'Leary J.A. suspending the
declaration could be brought at any time. If the suspension
order were vacated, then the cultivation of marijuana would
not be an offence in Alberta.

>JCT: Legal thinking by the Crown to the core. They say the
highest court in Alberta declared prohibition of no force
and effect, they know the last appeal was rejected by the
Supreme Court of Canada, but they still hold the law is
alive while a lower Alberta judge holds it up! Har har har
har.
Luckily, O'Leary's Order doesn't apply in Ontario where the
highest court of Alberta's opinion  always does. Still,
before they bust a whole lot of new people and then have
to drop the charges later like they had to with the 4000
possession stays, I urged that Krieger finish the job and
get the cultivation declared invalid in these posts:
http://yahoogroups.com/group/medpot/messages
1110-1111 SCC Krieger Victory Cards and Hitzig Losers
1119-1120 Krieger Win goes unclaimed
1121 Whose side is Krieger on?
1135 Krieger SCC Victory with Acton Ruling
1137 Medpot growers tempted by Krieger decision?
1139 Marie Krieger explains why not vacate stay

Once again, the official reason we are given by the Krieger
camp for why they have not sought to vacate the suspension
of the Krieger declaration of invalidity of the prohibition
of cultivation and possession of marijuana under section
7(1) and 4(1) of the CDSA which permits Canadian growers to
continue to be busted under this unconstitutional law is
because:

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:22:58 -0700
>From: gwk...@... (Marie Krieger)
>Subject: Re: Medpot growers tempted by Krieger decision?
>To: TUR...@...

MK: Grant is scheduled to meet with his lawyer this
Wednesday to answer your original question regarding the
supreme court decision. It would stand to reason that
Grant's case has set precedent for all with a legitamite
illness, to ignore the MMAR permit and fight through the
courts. The trick is to find a bright young lawyer (who is
willing to work through legal aide) and fight for you,
hopefully make a name for himself in the doing, so the
entire process doesn't cost you your life. Otherwise I think

>JCT: so Canada's growers and possessors keep getting busted
under the invalid law because we have to wait for
fundraising to pay a lawyer? I know it's a 3-line motion
that points out the appeals are complete and that the
suspension serves no purpose. I offered to pay the first
$100.
Like they had to stay 4000 charges because we asked for a
declaration that the possession offence has been invalid
since Terry Parker Day, so too, they'll have to stay charges
Canada-wide because of the Krieger win.
But they have not yet. They'll argue they're waiting for
Krieger to vacate the suspension before they stop their
prosecutions in the courts.
So Marie never sent me a response though she did try to
explain herself in another group where I could not comment:

>From:  "Marie Krieger" <gwkcrf@t...>
>Date:  Wed Feb 11, 2004  9:07 pm
>Subject:  Fwd: Whose side is Krieger on?

MK: Grant has finally gotten a response from Adrianno
Iovanelli

re: Turmels comments.
and as a refresher ....
Grant can not ask for the order to be vacated, if he does he
runs the probability of the Feds slapping a continuance to
re-open the matter.

>JCT: As I pointed out in my post, this is pure bull. But
Iovanelli's a lawyer and Turmel's not. It's been refused at
the Supreme Court of Canada and Adrianno Iovanelli doesn't
know they can't go to the House of Lords in England anymore?
What kind of lawyer is he? Can anyone believe that a real
lawyer said this?
But notice how no one on any public board anywhere has
challenged her statement. Except me. The lawyer says we
can't hit the government's with their greatest fear and
everyone just nods okay? It makes me wonder if online
readership isn't mostly narc moles.

MK: At the time the order was granted to Grant Krieger the
government did not have a source for their Section 56
exemptees. Today they do... although we question the
quality.

>JCT: This has got nothing to do with staying the charges
against the cultivators charged since the declaration took
effect.
And not everybody agrees that finding a new source too late
has brought the invalid law back to life. Sounds like Marie
and Grant are from the Alan Young school of "judges can
bring laws back to life."
Krieger killed cultivation whether he's happy about it or
not just like Parker killed possession who is happy about
it. All charges under the invalid possession law had to be
stayed and so do the charges under the invalid cultivation
law have to be stayed.
The Government has only one person to thank for not having
done the same for the cultivators as they did for possessors
and that person is the supposed hero Grant Krieger. Right at
the end of his story, he chickens out or is exposed.

MK: Hope this answers your questions.... Regards, Marie

>JCT: Actually, it's about the most nonsensical piece of
legal bafflegab I've heard in a long time. This government
getting a continuance to stay the latest decision of the
Supreme Court of Canada is right up there with Alan Young's
trying to set aside Pitt's Criminal remedy in Chapnik's
civil court, or Hitzig trying to compel a Federal Health
ministry in Ontario provincial court. So I can understand
why she explained herself in a forum where no one would
challenge her response like I have.
Think not only about the possible hundreds or thousands of
people who should be getting their charges throughout Canada
the moment Grant vacates the stay but also of those people
who are still getting busted today.
Grant Krieger could have been a hero but to everyone who has
been busted for cultivation or possession since Dec. 23,
he'll be thought a gutless wimp, an ignorant dupe, either
way a very sick man, or a lousy narc mole. But Grant Krieger
will be no hero. Even when I get the Krieger declaration
validated in Ontario, he'll be no hero. He'll have to act
fast if he wants to save any face that's left.
Two weeks ago, he may not have realized how many charged
growers and how many newly-charged growers were depending on
him to invalidate the law. But I told him.
So since then, he's responsible for letting another 2 weeks
worth of busts to happen in Canada. I keep reading about
those busts and always think about Krieger's Supreme Court
of Canada win that his lawyer says is too dangerous to
claim. Because Krieger's too chicken to claim the win,
people are still being busted. Even Krieger's now again been
recently busted again. Another defensive fight right up
Adrianno's alley. Nothing to win but another acquittal with
no declaration.
Frankly, Coward, Moron or Mole seem to be the only options
at this point. Sure, sick Coward, sick Moron, or sick Mole
but letting all those people get dragged through the courts
because Grant's been frightened from going on offence is a
lousy way for him to end his previously seemingly heroic
battle.
Everyone charged since Dec 23 2003 when Krieger could have
moved to vacate the suspension and proclaim the win has been
busted because of Krieger's inaction. What a joke if he's a
narc mole who can't collect his win because it would get
everyone off the hook. Har har har har. Or if he had not
been such a coward, no one would have been busted anywhere
in Canada for the past 2 months. All such busts are because
of gutless Krieger, narc mole or moron extraordinaire.
I'd written:

>>JCT: Anyway, something really smells rotten in Alberta and
Krieger better move his buns because I've just started
screaming "narc mole" at him.

>JCT: Well, as far as I know, the fear of Government
reopening his win with a continuance that he is relying on
to play the coward is completely bogus. What court did
Adrianno say they'd go to?
So because the excuse is completely bogus, I'll feel safe in
saying that I think it's a greater probability that Grant's
just another narc mole infesting the pro-marijuana movement
along with
- other celebrity narc moles like Alison Myrden, Steven
Bacon,
- with the narc mole lawyers like "Wrong-Court" Young and
"Boner Beagle Burstein,"
- narc mole publisher Marc Emery who suppressed the good
news that exemptees could get exemption extensions while
they were all worried and of Parker's Pitt victory,
- and narc mole political never-elected leader-for-life
Boris though he's one who man just be a duped no-talent
snot-nosed kid.

JCT: Thanks to the Internet, such betrayals were never made
known. Now, it's published and saved in thousands of
computers forever. And wouldn't you know:

>Grant Krieger in Court June 20 / 2006
>AlisonMyrden
>Date: #1256877 - Sun Jun 11 2006
Good luck guys!
We'll be with you guys in spirit in Court...
Knock 'em dead...
Love and a squish, Alison xx

>JCT: This the Alison Myrden of the Hitzig group who helped
Alan Young bring the prohibition that Terry Parker had
invalidated back to life. What a nest of narc moles still
losing case after case to help the Crown.

And we're using Krieger's Supreme Court win that he wouldn't
collect on while he lets it go unclaimed. When it wins,
won't he look like the rat to the movement he is.

Is there anyone who can go to Calgary and ask him why he
didn't claim his win? In public? On the spot?

Anyone who has been busted after Krieger didn't kill the
cultivation section but settled for personal exemption for
himself?



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
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JCT: So now we find out if the most important case
in the Criminal Code will a hearing at the Supreme Court or
of it will be declared abandoned without a hearing.

File Number: #31245
                IN THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA
         (ON APPEAL FROM THE COURT OF APPEAL FOR ONTARIO)
BETWEEN
                       Terrance Parker
                                                    Applicant
                                          Appellant in appeal
                             AND
                    Her Majesty the Queen
                                                   Respondent
                                         Respondent in appeal

            APPLICANT'S REPLY FOR RECONSIDERATION
                  TERRANCE PARKER, APPLICANT
    (Pursuant to S.73 or S.78 of the Supreme Court Rules)

1. Applicant applied for leave to appeal pursuant to Section
59(4) of the Supreme Court of Canada Act which exempts
applications for leave to appeal in forma pauperis from the
60-day deadline set out in Section 58.

2. The Registrar refused to acknowledge Applicant's status
in forma pauperis and insisted Applicant abide by the 60-day
deadline set out in S.58 by seeking an Order extending the
time.

3. Applicant pointed out S.59(4) exempted applications in
forma pauperis from the S.58 deadline but the Registrar
dismissed the application as abandoned for want of an Order
extending the time.

4. Applicant seeks to review the Order of the Registrar
denying Applicant's claim to pauper status and,if the Court
finds Applicant does not have pauper's status, to obtain an
Order extending the time to file.

5. The Crown argues that Applicant should have applied to
review the ruling of the Registrar pursuant to Rule 78(1)
within 20 days. Should the court accept that the refusal of
forma pauperis status by the Registrar must be reviewed
pursuant to Rule 78(1) within 20 days rather than a review
of the abandonment Order pursuant to Rule 73 within 30 days,
Applicant would seek an extension of time to reconsider the
Registrar's Order pursuant to Rule 78.

6. The Crown argues that Section 59(4) provides for the
granting of leave to serve a "notice of appeal" after the
deadline in Section 58 for doing so but fails to notice that
the only deadline cited in S.58 is for applications for
leave to appeal and no deadlines for anything else.

7. The Crown argues Applicant has not identified any reason
for disturbing the Order of the Registrar. The Parker and
Turmel-Paquette appeals initiated the proceedings resulting
in the decision named after the Hitzig Cross-appellants in
which the Court ruled that the MMAR (Marijuana Medical
Access Regulations) issued in 2001 had failed to comply with
the R. v. Parker [2000] ruling resulting in the taking
effect of their declaring "the prohibition in s.4(1) to be
invalid."

8. The Hitzig court then ruled they had fixed the flaws in
the MMAR to purportedly make the prohibition valid again.

9. The Crown has not disputed that this is a case of
national importance since it was immediately cited in the
Martin's Criminal Code of Canada.
Dated at Toronto on July 14 2006.
___________________________
Applicant to the motion
Terrance Parker
2209-55 Triller Ave.  Toronto, Ontario, M6R-2H6
Tel/fax: 613.632.2334 Email: terryparkerjr@...

JCT: So now we sit back and see if the most important case
in the Criminal Code gets its hearing at the Supreme Court
or of it loses without a hearing.

Notice that by going this route, he finds out whether he
qualifies to be exempt from needing an extension of time
before he applies for it. I applied for it before
ascertaining I was not exempt. So, by doing it this way,
Parker gets both chances. If he's exempt as a pauper, he's
in, and if he's not, he asks like non-paupers.

Regardless, this case setting precedent in the Criminal Code
indicates its national importance.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
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JCT: AMI is Steve Zarlenga's enterprise. I wrote an article
"Stephen Zarlenga's main thrust is off-target" noting he
misses the positive feedback instability of interest in the
1/(s-i) Laplace Transform equation of the system he is
analyzing but blames private creation of money for the
instability instead.

In another article "Tom Greco's Zarlenga Review," I noted
his book has 22 chapters on the problem, one on the
solution, and the solution offered is wrong. It suggests we
stop loan-sharking by private banks and let a government
bank do the loan-sharking and benefit from the seizures,
unemployment, and inflation that develop.

He gives short shrift to the whole alternative exchange
movement - mutual credit clearing associations, LETS, and
community currencies, does not even mention the commercial
"barter" industry, and of course, could not tackle a UNILETS
world-wide model. He has an easy time dissing the local
social currency models created with saboteurs installing
structural weaknesses but can't even attempt a critique at
the world-wide UNILETS interest-free time-trading model
which suffers none of the failings of incomplete-shopping-
database systems he studied.

Of course, he can't dis how provincial and private
currencies have stabilized Argentina nor how Hugo Chavez is
going to engineer social currency for Venezuela.

Zarlenga's third "straw man" is "the all money is debt"
problem when I've pointed out that if we're both in debt to
Bell and I ask them to let me take on $200 more negative so
you can have $200 more positive, I've just done a
transaction with debt. No problem.

The details of the Zarlenga plan consist of three main
points on which he insists there should be "no compromise;"
So whereas The Engineer recommends one repair to the
malfunction, Zarlenga without any blueprints, says we need
three. Har har har har.

1. Nationalize the Federal Reserve.

Let the people profit from permitting death-gamble.

2. End fractional reserve banking and institute the "100%
Reserve Solution" (ala Frederick Soddy), which he insists is
not the same as merely requiring 100% reserves.

Whereas LETS and UNILETS are 0% reserve systems that have an
infinite supply of tokens just waiting to be issued in
exchange for collateral, these 100% donkeys want to limit
the number of chips issuable out of the cage to the number
of chips saved over in the safety deposit section. I've
often laughed at proponents of 100% reserve savings before
you can issue new receipts for collateral as the ultimate
indicator of financial stupidity.

3. Institute anti-deflation programs.

A 1-Hour IOU cannot inflate. It is always worth 60 minutes.
Timebank currency cannot inflate. Turmel's Miracle Equation
for Unemployment and Inflation I/(P+I) says that to make
inflation zero, you only have to make I=0%. No positive
feedback on the chips. I guess our expert in banking systems
engineering hasn't even mastered the grade-level algebraic
explanation of the instability yet!

Funniest of all, Zarlenga admits that he does not have a
"complete and detailed blueprint of the ideal monetary
system," and yet, it's the one accurate blueprint for the
engineering of the banking system has been published online
for years: http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/bankmath.htm

Zarlenga has adopted Aristotle's view, which he quotes:
"...Money exists not by nature but by law."

Money exists by collateral backing up the IOU receipt.

So let's see how the Man of Many Mistakes is doing:

>Subject: [toeslist] AMI Report on chapter launching trips

JCT: Of course, toeslist is a group which has banned my
posts on UNILETS so it's no wonder he'd be presenting it to
a crowd who are already pre-disposed against the real
solution.

>Posted by: "AMI" ami@... americanmonetaryinstitute
>Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:13 am (PDT)

Please pardon double postings!
Dear Friends of the American Monetary Institute,

SZ: While it was exciting to help launch several new AMI
Chapters (in Corning, Iowa; Brookings, South Dakota;
Portland, Oregon, Seattle, Washington; and Centralia,
Washington) it is good to be back. Each time I return from
one of these trips requires several days to get re-organized
and settle in. I'll be in the Chicago area straight through
to our Monetary Reform Conference , September 21-24; except
of a Chapter Launching in Raleigh- Durham North Carolina
June 26-28, maybe a trip to Albuquerque, New Mexico in July,
_and if we find funding,_ I've been invited to deliver a
talk in Athens Greece to a monetary/economic Symposium at
Athens University, entitled ARISTOTLE VS ADAM SMITH; the
Science of Money vs. the Mythology of Money.

JCT: Seems like he's having great success at installing his
badly-engineered systems around the states!

SZ: Here is what happened in May:  (for contact phone
numbers of any AMI chapters, please phone me at 847-359-
2524)

_Iowa Alpha in Burlington _- Dick Distlehorst, founder of
AMI's first and most active Chapter hosted a lunch May 17
for chapter members where I delivered our "Northwest Trip
talk," using printouts instead of a computer. Dick is well
known in Burlington as highly knowledgeable in monetary
matters. The people in attendance have known him for years,
and are obviously what I call "serious" people. Good
questions were asked. At the end of the meeting, powerful
Iowa Congressman Jim Leach's office manager, having lunch at
the same restaurant, came by our table, immediately
understanding what Dick's presence meant at such a meeting.
We "tackled" her and she pretty much had to listen to the
initial part of our presentation demonstrating the
connection between our private mis-managed money system,

JCT: and Zarlenga's public mis-managed money system.

SZ: and the lack of infrastructure and levees in the US.
Whether or not she was convinced, its certain a report of
this meeting gets back to Congressman Leach. Monetary reform
will have a place on his radar screen. Congressmen are very
tuned to what is happening in their districts.

JCT: Har har har har. The opposition puppets are listening.
Probably because the message is wrong. They've never
listened to the right message before.

SZ: _In Charitan, Iowa_, R.C. Stuart, from our Maine
Chapter, there for a summer visit with his parents, (his dad
a retired Federal Judge) brought several people together to
hear the message at the local library. R.C's home and main
focus is in Maine, but he spends some time each year in
Charitan, and we both thought "Lets try to start a chapter
here too." This will take more work, development, and time
on the ground there, but he'll be back next summer.

_Then it was on to Corning, Iowa_ (still on Route 34) which
was the founding city of the NFO - the National Farmers
Organization, in 1955 (http://www.nfo.org/). It is also the
site of the utopian Icarian Community from 1852. Both
influences are still present. AMI Chapter founder Matt Olive
and his brothers are the core of the AMI Iowa Beta Chapter.
We held our meeting at the Town Hall. Its quite a community,
with an opera house under renovation, and beautiful forward
looking environmentally sound real estate developments under
way. I'm expecting substantial activity here. There is a
community spirit evident and we were hosted "annonymously"
by a successful Corning businessman, given full use of his
guest Condo. Corning is also the hometown of late night TV
host Johny Carson. Matt and I visited his house and
discovered an old wishing well on the property. Figuring
this particular well might have had some magical powers for
Johny, we threw some coins in! (we'll try most everything
for monetary reform!)

I had a late invitation to drive south from there to visit
our friends at the Economics Department of the University of
Missouri, Kansas City but had to drive directly north to
Brookings, South Dakota for our scheduled meeting. Kansas
City next time! AMI should have a chapter there.

_The AMI Chapter in Brookings, South Dakota Alpha_, is
founded by Engineer and Farmer Larry Rudebusch, who read my
book a couple of years ago

JCT: Bet he hasn't read my advanced engineering analysis or
he wouldn't be with Zarlenga.

SZ: and attended our monetary Reform Conference in Chicago
in 2005. Larry has been associated with NORM (National
Organization for Raw Materials) and Acres Magazine. I got a
chance to see a family farming operation from up close,
including the wonderful fresh foods available. Raw fresh
milk is really tasty! Larry had agreed to let me drive a
tractor, but it was a big thing - I felt like I was on a
high diving board - and I didn't want to take down any
fences (or houses!) by not being able to stop the monster in
time. So I excused myself saying that I'd drive it if there
was some real job to do (which I knew there was not, just
then).

Larry is running for Congress on the Libertarian Party
ticket, but with a difference: I was greatly impressed,
listening to him field various questions on his ability to
bring back most questions to the necessity for monetary
reform.

JCT: I was barred from being a Libertarian Party candidate
back in 1980 for advocating monetary reform. Stopped from
re-registering the party a few years ago.

SZ: Supporters and friends would try to draw him away into
side non-issues, but he'd immediately bring them back on
track into how monetary reform was the key central issue
that had to be solved before any others would make sense. I
really liked that ability. Twenty people came to the meeting
including a number of South Dakota Libertarians including
their State Chairman and their Gubernatorial Candidate, both
of whom became interested in Monetary reform and got copies
of my book.

JCT: That should keep them pretty confused about how poker
chips work.

One realization that has come out of the trip through Iowa
and South Dakota is that we will win this fight. The
opposition's ultimate threat was the destruction of humanity
through nuclear warfare. That would destroy our cities and
present civilization, but I realized on this drive that
there is enough left out there in the countryside of what we
consider real Jeffersonian American culture, (minus the
religious and free market fundamentalism), for mankind to
proceed. I've driven all over the US several times, but this
is the first time this realization hit home. Assuming of
course that the financial/religious maniacs don't cause the
loss of the Earth's atmosphere through their block-headed
stupidity. That has been the real lesson of the Mars probes,
that there was once flowing water on Mars - that a planet
can lose its life sustaining atmosphere.

JCT: And having guys like Zarlenga blame the wrong cause of
economic malfunction is slowing down repair.

SZ: The next Chapters were launched in Portland, Oregon;
Seattle Washington; and Centralia, Washington. Great
meetings were held in Portland and Centralia and three
meetings (which will be combined next time) were held in
Seattle/Tacoma. Our Chapter leader in all 3 Northwest towns
is Robert Poteat, one of the most experienced
students/teachers of monetary reform in the U.S. It looks as
though good core groups will form in Seattle and Portland.
The key is to get at least four or five people who will
continue to re-inforce one another. Professor Preparata had
us address his economics class at Washington University,
Tacoma.

JCT: Many chapters doing what?

SZ: In Centralia, something special happenned: We addressed
the local Democratic Party Organization. Its the first time
AMI has specifically targetted Democrats, and the results
were somewhat amazing. They started out largely demoralized,
because for the most part, the Democrats have also accepted
the lies of economics. But there is no place in economics
for the "common man" to exist with dignity and rights.
Economics in effect renders the Democrats as useless.

It was wonderful to watch how their spirits picked up when
presented with the evidence that their viewpoint - a
Jeffersonian view favoring the average fellow, was shown not
only to be moral, but also the most effective approach. The
evidence that the monetary system is systematically used as
an engine of theft, undeservedly concentrating wealth in the
hands of the super rich helped fire up their attitude.
Several of them went on in the days following to their
Washington State Convention and distributed over a hundred
of our brochures (The need for Monetary Reform) and made
monetary reform an issue there and asked Bob and I to draft
a sample resolution that they might pass. (Its below) Here
is what the Democratic Vice Chair of Washington State
Convention wrote:

Dear Stephen Z and Bob P,
I appreciate your efforts and information! These attachments
will help form a core of knowledgeable local people who can
begin the grassroots actions you spoke about at the Lewis
County meeting. I distributed about 100 copies of the
earlier two-page document you sent at the State Democratic
Convention over the weekend. We can now begin planning for
larger distributions and presentations at future
gatherings.Thank you!

All I can say folks is WOW.

JCT: Me too. Getting a politician interested in a taboo
subject like monetary reform, even wrong monetary reform, is
incredible. Then again, spreading Zarlenga's errors may be
helping the banksters keep people away. As Thomas Pynchon
notes in his "Proverbs for Paranoids," if they can get you
asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about
answers." And Zarlenga certainly gets them asking the wrong
questions. Luckily, he publishes in a group where I can't
correct him and toeslist readers stay ignorant of the truth.

SZ: We are going to watch these developments. If its the
"down home" type Democrats who will listen and act (not the
elitist Democratic Leadership types) then we'll talk to
them.  We are non-Partisan, but its nice when our message is
so well taken.

Well friends, thats the report on the trip. These trips cost
money. Please donate. Make your plans to come to the AMI
Monetary Reform Conference in Chicago, September (21-24).
Its shaping up really well, and we are going to have a
number of sessions and reports on the Chapter activity,
including reports of whats working. This is how we'll get
fired up and be ready to continue this struggle. We need you
to be there. It makes a difference! Warm regards to all,
Stephen Zarlenga
Ami
P.S. Below is the sample resolution and background note from
Robert Poteat we sent them.

JCT: Okay, we get to hear what has impressed all these
readers:

SZ: Dear .........,
Here is a possible resolution for the LEWIS County Dems that
Bob and I have worked on. Bob said he is ready to drive all
night to present it to you fellows in person if necessary.

Resolution:
Based on the attached letter from Robert Poteat of Onalaska,
and the summary entitled the Need For Monetary Reform from
the American Monetary Institute we resolve to form a
committee to study their monetary conclusions in detail and
examine whether they are supported by factual evidence.

JCT: Form a committee to study their erroneous analysis.

SZ: In particular we should know:
whether our present monetary structure conveys special
unfair privileges to some, to the detriment of others;

JCT: Any evidence?

SZ: whether it further promotes the concentration of wealth
in our society;

JCT: Does taking from the negatives to give to the positives
and taking even more from the more negative to give to the
even more positive and taking the most from the most
negative giving the most to the most positive "promote the
concentration of wealth?"

SZ: whether it unnecessarily doubles to triples the cost of
governmental infrastructure projects, placing unnecessary
burdens on our society and thereby de-funding government at
all levels;

whether substituting publicly created money in place of bank
created credit, as proposed in the summaries has in fact
worked in America's past and could be reasonably expected to
work in the present.

JCT: Not if the government bank like the private banks demand the
repayment of more
privately-created money than the the exponential debt
created. Different cashiers, same imbalance, same problem,
same no solution.

SZ: whether we should endorse and support the proposed
Monetary Transparency Act, and the American Monetary Act put
forward by the American Monetary Institute. The committee
will report its findings at our next regular meeting, or
earlier by mail if appropriate. Signed: Lewis County Dems

JCT: What's the American Monetary Act? Probably not  dealing
with exponential debt.
---

INTRODUCTION TO MONETARY REFORM
by Robert Poteat

RP: Today, I speak both as a representative of the American
Monetary Institute, AMI, www.monetary.org and a Democrat.
AMI is a 501c3 charitable trust formed for the independent
study of monetary systems, history, and, importantly, to
recommend corrective, reforming legislation. We are in the
process of national organization. Fourteen Chapter groups
are forming around the country.

Recently, I entered a library that was set in a beautiful
location that typifies our northwest spring. The line from
the novel came to mind: It is the best of times; it is the
worst of times. Literally, we have so much. Technology,
science, the resources of that beautiful library that I have
over-used. We who have enjoyed a nominal middle-class life
have it better than humans of any other time. But there is a
dark side, Luke.

So, what's the problem? You already know, and I do not wish
to bore you with too much redundancy. I will thumbnail it
for this instance.

1. Exponentially growing debt in every sector of the
economy.

JCT: Due to interest, not private creation.

RP: Federal Gross Public Treasury debt is more than $8
trillions. Interest on that debt consumes $250 - $300
billions of tax revenue. Other sectors added bring the total
to more than $40 trillions. It took until the administration
of Ronald Reagan to reach $1 trillion federal debt. In
approximately 25 years it has multiplied 8 fold. Where do
you think it will be in another 25 years?

2. Mis-allocation of finance. Banks have a predilection to
lend on real estate that creates inflation in real estate
and compels developers to pave our farmland at a time when
food surpluses are dwindling.

JCT: Believers in Shift A inflation. Doesn't know about B.

RP: Also, an undetermined amount is going into Wall Street
games that amount to little more than gambling or outright
theft of monetary claims on society's wealth.

3. Unrepaired and decaying infrastructure such as the New
Orleans levees. The American Society of Engineers estimated
an infrastructure deficit of $1.6 trillions before Katrina.
Katrina's clean-up is estimated at $400 billions or more.
Double it or triple it if it is financed by debt because of
interest.

4. Stratification of wealth. Most of the nation's debt is
owned and interest is paid to the very richest people who
already make claim to obscene amounts of the society's
wealth. 1% claim to own about 50% of the national wealth.
This predicts the demise of American ideological constructs.
In a recent interview Studs Turkel asked "do they want the
whole pie? They don't know when to stop!"

JCT: Sure makes a great case against interest. I wonder how
he's going to lose sight of the problem?

RP: 5. Human infrastructure must be a first concern. In a
country where a few have so much and 40 millions of people
have no health services other than tax supported programs or
charity, we see a huge disconnect between our ideology and
the reality of the results of the stratification of wealth.
Our educational systems are victimized by the same
stratification where the wealthy have access to any advanced
education and the rest do not, except by a few scholarships.
It is a guarantee that the lower classes will stay put.
Human infrastructure introduces the moral dimension of the
distorted allocation of finance. We must begin to put people
ahead of economic abstractions that treat human
infrastructure as an irrelevant "externality." "What does
human suffering have to do with out perfect economic
theories," they ask. Theories that in fact are made of whole
cloth, cannot be proved, and are often disproved by obvious
facts.

6. War. What bigger moral disconnect can there be? We cannot
issue money for social care because it is inflationary, the
economists tell us. Let war start and the monetary
floodgates are opened, and there is no limit. Look at the
history of the federal debt and you will see a bump in debt
at every instance of war. The depression of the 1930s did
not end until war production began for WWII.

7. Environmental degradation. Nothing contributes to
pollution and plundering of natural resources more than
bottom-line monetary accounting as the only guiding
principle. It's the quarterly bottom-line, Luke. That's the
dark side, Luke. The list could go on.

How did we get into this mess?

JCT: How do we get out?

RP: A major factor is the way our money system is structured
- particularly in the way money is issued. Money, is issued
as debt by private banks. contrary to what you may believe,
government does not create our money supply.

JCT: Right.

RP: Again, contrary to what you may believe, banks do not
lend money that has been deposited with them. They create
bank credit, or debt, and deposit it. Upon that deposit,
bank credit, or debt, is expanded by what is called
fractional reserve banking.

JCT: expanded by the multiplier effect of the fractional
reserve banking system.

RP: Time does not allow a detailed explanation, but the best
explanation was published by the Federal Reserve Bank of
Chicago in a booklet called "Modern Money Mechanics." How
bank credit is expanded is graphed in this diagram.

JCT: I do it better in my simple flow analysis at
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/bankmath.htm

RP: In the short term we have prepared a proposed MONETARY
TRANSPARENCY ACT. Briefly it instructs the Federal Reserve
to resume publishing the M3 statistic and a list of other
critical statistics that show precisely where loaned money
goes. How much is in Wall Street gambling? Home mortgages?
Consumer spending?

JCT: This doesn't help solve the problem though it helps
understand it.

RP: How much does government lose by relinquishing
seignorage on money creation?

JCT: Seignorage isn't the instability. Positive feedback is.

RP: What is the value of government granted privileges such
as mineral, spectrum, water, pollution and patent rights? We
must know these things to formulate good monetary policy
that serves people instead of financial interests.

JCT: No, the cashier needs to know none of this to properly
operate his poker chips system.

RP: It is time to take up this as a political issue. It must
be done now. "However you need to know a bit more about the
subject. This is the mission of the American Monetary
Institute"

JCT: And as long as they fail to teach about the real source
of instability, the positive feedback on debt, and blame
the wrong source, they're just another team of Judas Goats
leading the sheople to the slaughterhouse.

RP: So I call upon my fellow Democrats to, at a minimum,
agree to a resolution that emphasizes the importance of
getting a handle on this issue as soon as possible and to
appoint a study committee.

JCT: Yes, a resolution to agree it must be solved. Big win.

RP: The American Monetary Institute and I will devote
whatever time and energy is required to assist. The full
Research results of the American Monetary Institute are in
The Lost Science of Money book, in highly readable form.

JCT: Will all attendant errors left uncorrected.

RP: Its a thick book, but is written to be understood!
Chapter 1 thru 23 are the historical case studies and
Chapter 24 has the proposed reforms. They are summarized in
the brief one page front and back piece titled The Need For
Monetary Reform (attached). It is the non-partisan purpose
of AMI to support our lawmakers in understanding this. We
have been preparing a comprehensive monetary reform act. The
draft proposal can be reviewed and critiqued on the AMI
website, www.monetary.org, we invite comments and critique.

The text of the Need For Monetary Reform is attached.
The text of the Monetary Transparency Act is attached.
The American Monetary Act is found at the AMI website at
http://www.monetary.org and is also attached.
The full research results of the American Monetary Institute
are found in Stephen Zarlenga's book The Lost Science of
Money, described at the website.
Also attached is an example of how Burlington (Iowa) Town
Council  handled this important question. Sincerely,
Robert Poteat and Stephen Zarlenga
American Monetary Institute

JCT: Anyway, it goes to show the kinds of people and
organizations involved in spreading the wrong information
about our financial enslavement. Can't lift your chains if
they've got you beating on the key.



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

>Article #3999 (4002 is last):
>From: Quintal <xavier22@...>
>Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-turmel,can.politics,can.legal,
>alt.drugs,sci.econ,sci.engr,alt.conspiracy
>Subject: Re: 3rd Turmel Bilderberg picket 1983 1996 2006
>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:12:36 GMT

Q: bc726@... (John Turmel) wrote:

>And then, today, there was a great hoopla about Alex Jones
>protesting at the Bilderbergs.

Q: alex jones is a mole for the globalists/jews/whatever
(no idea if they're "jew", but some claim they are. More
power to them.)

JCT: Keep in mind, we're all related. Most people know the
names of their father's family and mother's family and few
else. The names of half of the four grand-parent roots are
often lost. Of the 8 great-grand-parents, 3/4 of the family
roots are lost to our consciousness. Of the 16 great-great-
grand-parents we all have, 14/16 names may be unknown. Of
the 32 great^3 grand-parents, 30 named roots are unknown. Of
your 1,024 great^8 grand-parents, 1022 remain unknown. And
Jews have been dispersed and fooling around all over the
whole world longer than most others. So one or two or three
hundred of your great^8 grandparents could be Jewish and you
don't know until the neo-nazis start checking your DNA.
We're all a little bit Jewish, we're all a little bit asian,
we're a little bit African, we're all related. That's the
joke on humanity. Hidden roots permits war between cousins.

Q: "Fuck Alex Jones. There, I said it. What every 911 person
feels about Alex Jones. Everyone of us hates him. Because he
is all about him. There isn't a single 911 researcher who
doesn't feel this way. They ALL hate Alex Jones because of
how he acts."

JCT: Well, I decided to see what I could find about Alex
Jones. The name rang a bell as one of the anti-911 patriot-
type sites so I went to see what he had to say:

Alex Jones' Bilderberg Report
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/130606bilderbergreport.htm

JCT: We've heard my Bilderberg reports, now let's hear his:

Prison Planet.com | June 13 2006
THE KEY POINTS

- Canadian immigration officials almost deported Alex's crew
on the orders of Bilderberg until the media arrived.

- Agent provocateurs, one apparently operating on behalf of
Queen Beatrix, were trying to stir up trouble and provoke
peaceful protesters into becoming violent.

- One Dutch individual expressed his desire to kill
Freemasons and attack the Bilderberg Group - yards away from
police who were waiting to pounce if any of the peaceful
protesters and independent media agreed.

- Police intimidated Alex's crew for parking in clearly
permitted parking spaces and threatened to arrest them.

- Police attempted to remove protesters from what was shown
to be public property.

- Alex was able to bullhorn the Bilderbergers - in his own
words "crossing the line" and demanding their attention.

JCT: And the message of Alex Jones was:

AJ: Security were figuratively ripping their hair out and
staring at Alex with total hatred as his screed loudly
echoed across and bounced back off the buildings.

JCT: The screeded message being:

- After his experience Alex is more enlightened to the
ultimate agenda of the new world order and he is more
energized than ever to oppose it.
Further articles about the Bilderberg expose are coming this
week.
COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE

JCT: There was no particular message at this point. Of
course, I'm always leery of leaders without a goal. But he
did make the news by protesting. I protested and did not
make the news. Bad point for Alex but not fatal.

So, Quintal above doesn't like Alex's style. Seems he's not
alone. Victor Thorn has a scathing criticism. Keep in mind
I've made no definite statement on Jones's revolutionary
integrity other than that getting media focus indicates
probable puppeteer approval.

>http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/bilderberg.html
>Wing TV - Connect The Dots
>by Victor Thorn
>Alex Jones' Egomaniac Bilderberg Freak Show

JCT: I dislike starting a critique with an unsubstantiated
insult, let alone two.

VT: Y'know, ya have to respect Mr. Jim Tucker even more
nowadays. Here's a guy who has covered the Bilderberg
meetings all over the world since 1975.

JCT: I've already expressed my appreciation for Mr. Tucker's
journalistic persistence in keeping me informed on these
guys.

VT: And do you know what's best of all - he's done it with a
style and class that's undeniable. A true reporter's
reporter. Plus, the stories he's filed have been top-notch,
all chronicled in his highly-touted Bilderberg Diary.
http://www.wingtv.net/tucker.html

Truth-seekers can look up to Jim Tucker because this man has
done more than any other human being in history to expose
these shadowy globalists known as Bilderberg. And as I said,
he's done it with class - playing a cat n' mouse game with
the ruling elite that could equal any James Bond movie.

Then here comes carpetbagger, egomaniac, the-entire-
universe-revolves-around-me Alex Jones. And guess what: all
of a sudden the annual Bilderberg meeting isn't about
landing a story, getting the inside scoop, or trying to
inform the public. All of a sudden - IT'S ABOUT ALEX! Just
like everything else in Alex's world. Alex Alex Alex 24
hours a day. Total ego - total narcissism - total self-
absorption, and total consumption in Alex's psychotic world
of self-love and self-promotion.

Yes, all of a sudden, all of the class that Jim Tucker
brought to reporting on Bilderberg has been replaced by a
FREAK SHOW. Screw the story. Screw the news. Screw the
patriot movement. Screw everyone. It's all Alex Alex Alex.
Alex did this - Alex did that. Give Alex the spotlight. Give
Alex the stage. Give mama's attention-seeking little baby
boy all of her ... well, all of her ATTENTION.

Yup, read all about it. The Bilderbergs - the most powerful
people in the world - were monitoring Alex. The Bilderbers
arrested Alex. The Bilderbergs were trembling in fear
because of Alex. The Bilderbergs were all bowing at Alex's
feet because he's King Alex - maniac lunatic of all
creation. In reality, it was a cheap publicity stunt to
steal Jim Tucker's thunder, all written on Alex's website by
a 24 year-old English boy named Paul Joseph Watson. The
ultimate sycophant. The ultimate lackey. The ultimate
groupie.

JCT: Sure it could have been a quality sheep-dipping! Much
like Marc Emery jumping out of a crowd to confess he had
passed out a joint to get himself arrested and then have his
attorney plead him guilty so he could spend some time in
jail thus dipping the narc mole sheep black! Sure, he might
be a bankster mole, but yet, he could also be a legitimate
resister who just hasn't found the alternative solution yet.

VT: Think about it: Jim Tucker, a man who's been writing for
more years than Watson has even been alive (Alex Jones too,
for that matter) - filing good, solid reports that you can
bank on year-in and year-out. Like hammering nails. A
reporter from the old-school in the tradition of Mike Royko.
Then here comes Watson, a 24 year-old lad from the U.K.,
still wet behind-the-ears, spewing Tom Flocco-style
sensationalism and tabloid tomfoolery. Pure schlock.

JCT: Nothing wrong with finding ways to pierce the news
blackout.

VT: But Alex Jones doesn't care because - you guessed
correctly - It's all about ALEX! Remember, everything's
about Alex! 24 hours a day. The sun & stars even revolve
around Alex and his little adore-himself-in-the-mirror
world. Alex Alex Alex. Everybody: three cheers for Alex.
He's the greatest. He's the best. Alex can save the world.
Alex is the second-coming. And if you don't believe me -
just ask him! He'll tell you!

Forget the three-decades of dignity, class, and solid
reporting that Jim Tucker brought to this subject. Now Alex
has turned it into a three-ring circus, the National
Enquirer, and a cheap Vegas sideshow all wrapped into one
(like an Elmer Gantry snake-oil vendor, a schmaltzy P.T.
Barnum sideshow barker, or the worst type of televangelist
imaginable).

How truly, utterly pathetic. Maybe Phil Jayhan was finally
right about something when he said:

"Fuck Alex Jones. There, I said it. What every 911 person
feels about Alex Jones. Everyone of us hates him. Because he
is all about him. There isn't a single 911 researcher who
doesn't feel this way. They ALL hate Alex Jones because of
how he acts."

JCT: Quintal above is Phil Jayhan? Thorn got the quote in
the Social Credit Matriarch's 3rd Bilderberg picket story?

VT: But y'know, at the end of the day, there's Jim Tucker -
and he'll still be filing a dead-on piece of true journalism
that brings the story home, and I'll be damned, we can trust
what he writes. On the other hand, Alex Jones will be
French-kissing his reflection in the mirror and fawning all
over himself. "I Love Alex," he coos to himself. "It's all
about me. ME ME ME!" As I said, how pathetic. Why doesn't
somebody tell this attention-starved little five-year old
boy that we're tired of his antics. Go home, Alex, and shut
up.

End Note: One of the biggest complaints about the Bilderberg
ruling elite is that they've made gods of themselves. Yet
Alex Jones has done the exact same thing by making himself a
god (at least in his own eyes). Worst of all, his obedient
little lemming sheeple see nothing odd in this fact. I
always thought the patriot movement was about independent
thought; but all they want to be is a cog in another
person's wheel - just like Rush Limbaugh's Ditto-Heads. For
some odd reason, I thought only sixteen year-old high-school
girls swooning over rock bands were groupies, but maybe I
was wrong. Grow up and become your own person!

JCT: Sadly, Mr. Thorn vented his revulsion but didn't
convince me of any particular screw-up of Alex Jones. In
fact, many people would think most of those criticisms could
easily apply to me. I've been derided as a publicity hound
too so let's read it again with "John Turmel" instead of
"Alex Jones" and "banking systems engineering" instead of
"911" and "incompetence" instead of "evil."

"Y'know, ya have to respect Mr. Jim Tucker even more
nowadays. Here's a guy who has covered the Bilderberg
meetings all over the world since 1975. And do you know
what's best of all - he's done it with a style and class
that's undeniable. A true reporter's reporter. Plus, the
stories he's filed have been top-notch, all chronicled in
his highly-touted Bilderberg Diary. Truth-seekers can look
up to Jim Tucker because this man has done more than any
other human being in history to expose these shadowy
globalists known as Bilderberg. And as I said, he's done it
with class - playing a cat n' mouse game with the ruling
elite that could equal any James Bond movie.

Then here comes carpetbagger, egomaniac, the-entire-
universe-revolves-around-me John Turmel. And guess what: all
of a sudden the annual Bilderberg meeting isn't about
landing a story, getting the inside scoop, or trying to
inform the public. All of a sudden - IT'S ABOUT JOHN! Just
like everything else in John's world. John John John 24
hours a day. Total ego - total narcissism - total self-
absorption, and total consumption in John's psychotic world
of self-love and self-promotion.

Yes, all of a sudden, all of the class that Jim Tucker
brought to reporting on Bilderberg has been replaced by a
FREAK SHOW. Screw the story. Screw the news. Screw the
patriot movement. Screw everyone. It's all John John John.
John did this - John did that. Give John the spotlight. Give
John the stage. Give mama's attention-seeking little baby
boy all of her ... well, all of her ATTENTION.

Yup, read all about it. The Bilderbergs - the most powerful
people in the world - were monitoring John. The Bilderbers
arrested John. The Bilderbergs were trembling in fear
because of John. The Bilderbergs were all bowing at John's
feet because he's King John - maniac lunatic of all
creation. In reality, it was a cheap publicity stunt to
steal Jim Tucker's thunder, all written on John's website by
a 24 year-old English boy named Paul Joseph Watson. The
ultimate sycophant. The ultimate lackey. The ultimate
groupie.

Think about it: Jim Tucker, a man who's been writing for
more years than Watson has even been alive (John Turmel too,
for that matter) - filing good, solid reports that you can
bank on year-in and year-out. Like hammering nails. A
reporter from the old-school in the tradition of Mike Royko.
Then here comes Watson, a 24 year-old lad from the U.K.,
still wet behind-the-ears, spewing Tom Flocco-style
sensationalism and tabloid tomfoolery. Pure schlock.

But John Turmel doesn't care because - you guessed
correctly - It's all about JOHN! Remember, everything's
about John! 24 hours a day. The sun & stars even revolve
around John and his little adore-himself-in-the-mirror
world. John John John. Everybody: three cheers for John.
He's the greatest. He's the best. John can save the world.
VT: John is the second-coming. And if you don't believe me -
just ask him! He'll tell you!

JCT: See what I mean. John The Engineer's UNILETS can save
the world. Thinking you can engineer world salvation doesn't
make you nuts if you have been trained to.

VT: Forget the three-decades of dignity, class, and solid
reporting that Jim Tucker brought to this subject. Now John
has turned it into a three-ring circus, the National
Enquirer, and a cheap Vegas sideshow all wrapped into one
(like an Elmer Gantry snake-oil vendor, a schmaltzy P.T.
Barnum sideshow barker, or the worst type of televangelist
imaginable).

How truly, utterly pathetic. Maybe Phil Jayhan was finally
right about something when he said:

"Fuck John Turmel. There, I said it. What every 911 person
feels about John Turmel. Everyone of us hates him. Because
he is all about him. There isn't a single "banking systems
engineering" researcher who doesn't feel this way. They ALL
hate John Turmel because of how he acts."

JCT: Few have anything against Turmel's UNILETS, it's always
against Turmel's style. So they won't help with debt
liberation because they don't like the style of the project
engineer who's building debt freedom's path whether they
help or not.

VT: But y'know, at the end of the day, there's Jim Tucker -
and he'll still be filing a dead-on piece of true journalism
that brings the story home, and I'll be damned, we can trust
what he writes. On the other hand, John Turmel will be
French-kissing his reflection in the mirror and fawning all
over himself. "I Love John," he coos to himself. "It's all
about me. ME ME ME!" As I said, how pathetic. Why doesn't
somebody tell this attention-starved little five-year old
boy that we're tired of his antics. Go home, John, and shut
up.

End Note: One of the biggest complaints about the Bilderberg
ruling elite is that they've made gods of themselves. Yet
John Turmel has done the exact same thing by making himself
a god (at least in his own eyes). Worst of all, his obedient
little lemming sheeple see nothing odd in this fact. I
always thought the patriot movement was about independent
thought; but all they want to be is a cog in another
person's wheel - just like Rush Limbaugh's Ditto-Heads. For
some odd reason, I thought only sixteen year-old high-school
girls swooning over rock bands were groupies, but maybe I
was wrong. Grow up and become your own person!

JCT: Anyway, not one valid factual criticism of our probable
bankster mole so that's a point in Alex's favor. Thorn
lifted the Quintal quote in response to the Turmel Picket
story but didn't mention our record triple protest either.
If all he could do is bad-mouth Jones's style, very
vitriolicly too, then maybe Jonesy has something good behind
him after all.

As for the 911, if anyone is arguing that Osama and 19
helpers with box-cutters managed to trick the US Air Force
into standing down, or that aviation fuel can melt
structural steel and pulverize concrete, or that a large
plane could fit into that tiny original hole in the
Pentagon, they're lunatics. It was Al-CIA-Duh.

But none of these resistance writers have protested the
financial levers used by the Bilderberg types to oppress the
world's debt slaves and none have mentioned the Bilderberg
protestors, us, who did protest our invisible debt chains.

From John The Engineer, the Atlas who didn't shrug, the
Spartacus at Babylon, not Rome,
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/praybill.htm


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: So what did interest the media covering the cabal of
ruling marionettes:

Ottawa Citizen June 11 2006 Page A6
www.prisonplanet.com  Alex Jones

'We know you are evil...'
Bilderberg critics have a message and a megaphone
By Shannon Proudfoot

SP: Members of the Bilderberg Group hit the links at the
Marshes Golf Course in Kanata yesterday, wile protesters
gathered to loudly express their distrust of the secretive
gatherings of international power brokers.

About 20 people assembled on the sidewalk in front of the
Brookstreet Resort, where the conference of political and
business leaders is meeting this weekend. Many of the
protesters were drawn there by the presence of controversial
U.S. filmmaker Alex Jones, who is currently working on a
documentary about the Bilderberg Group.

"We know you are evil, we know you are ruthless. We respect
your dark power," Mr. Jones shouted into a megaphone, .

JCT: I was shouting "we know you are not evil, we know you
are merely incompetent. We have no respect for your inept
results."

SP: his words echoing off the blank face of the hotel.

JCT: My white at reflecting off the blank face of the hotel
being all the message I needed. The Engineer and mother are
back, again and again.

SP: He paused occasionally in his lengthy remarks -
including charges that Bilderberg members were responsible
for putting mercury and cancer viruses in vaccines - to
direct the cameramen accompanying him or to pose for photos
with fans.

JCT: Tough indictments of minor genocides to prove when he
missed the easily proven big genocide of the poor from need
by usury whose evidence is staring us in the face.

SP: Each time a dark sedan or SUV passed through the parking
lot, protesters rushed over to jeer at the occupants,

JCT: Each time a dark sedan or SUV passed through the
parking lot, I rushed over with a big superior smile to
expose my double placard saying:

Don't cancel Debt! Cancel Debt Growth First. Abolish
Interest Rates. Jesus, Mohammed, Nehemiah said: Do not lend
money at interest."
www.UN.org/Millennium/Declaration.htm Interest-Free UNILETS
Bank
"3rd Turmel Bilderberg Picket 1983 Montebello 1996 King City
2006 Ottawa
The Anti-Poverty Engineer

I wasn't making any snarly faces since I was a protest-
instructor as opposed to previous media-darling protest-
obstructors.

SP: but Ottawa police officers and private security
personnel kept a hawkish watch and no one was allowed on the
hotel property.

JCT: Mom and I went 10 feet onto hotel property to have our
picture taken in front their Brookstreet sign but were asked
to stay on the sidewalk.

SP: Kanata resident John McNamara is critical of the
international  banking and media monopolies he believes the
Bilderberg members control. He acknowledged that most people
are "asleep at the whole agenda" and said the protest was
intended primarily to raise awareness and make a statement.

JCT: I've always felt the same way. The first time, back in
1983, I just wanted to let the rulers know I knew how it
could have been done better and I knew what clutzes in
banking systems engineering posterity would judge them to
be.

SP: "We're giving them notice that more and more people are
waking up and I think it's due to the Internet. Mr. McNamara
said.

JCT: 20 people show up to protest. Not that much help.

SP: Over the past few years, Jeff Leroux has followed the
activities of Bilderberg and similar groups through books
and websites, but he felt it was "pretty scary" to know they
were meeting in Ottawa this time.

JCT: Scare? I could understand being scared by a bunch of
Mafia dons meeting with murder in their hearts but scared of
"board room" Dons who do the murder in their hearts with
pens and contracts? Why not? One of the main architects who
got Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan under false
pretenses, Perle, is there. And his was a crime made public
and they don't mind being linked with him. They'll wallow in
any pig's trough for power.

SP: He thought the timing of the conference, one week after
the arrests of 17 Canadian terror suspects, was suspicious

JCT: What a red herring to focus on.

SP: and felt compelled to spend a few hours camping out in
front of the hotel on Friday and again yesterday.

JCT: I probably met him in the crowd for the poetry.

SP: "Now they're here, which to me has been stuff I've only
read about in books, and now this is not a book - they're
here in our backyard, so I thought I should be here.
----


>Monday June 12 2006
>By HOLLY LAKE, OTTAWA SUN holly.lake@...
>http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/OttawaAndRegion/2006/06/12/1626885-sun.html
>Today Kanata..... Tomorrow the world. Or so conspiracy
theorists warn as secret confab wraps up

JCT: Ha ha. Silly conspiracy theorists.

HL: Who's Who of the Bilderbergs
Out in the Open: The Bilderbergs

Bilderberger Richard Perle waves as he leaves the meeting at
the Brookstreet Hotel yesterday. (Blair Gable, SUN)

JCT: He's pretty important, having played a great part in
selling America on the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq. Based
on lies. I wonder if he lies to the Bilderbergs like he lied
to American citizens about Saddam's Weapons of Mass
Destruction.

HL: YOU MIGHT not care or know about the ultra-secretive
meetings that happened this weekend at the Brookstreet
Hotel. Whether you pay attention to the annual gathering of
the Bilderberg group -- comprised of royalty, political
power-brokers, national leaders, bankers and heads of some
of the world's largest companies -- Mark O'Donnell says what
they do and decide impacts our lives daily.

"The world we're living in right now is a reflection of some
of the decisions that people like this have made." The 32-
year-old Kanata man and father of one said the meetings are
part of the reason why gas is a dollar a litre and Iraq was
invaded. "A lot of people have a lot more local problems --
how to buy groceries this week," he said. "These are major,
major issues and for a lot of people, it's too much for them
to even care about. If it's not going to affect them in the
next week or two, it's not really a concern."

A "moderate" conspiracy theorist, O'Donnell said some of
more vocal Bilderberg critics do themselves a disservice by
grandstanding. "It's too easy to dismiss," he said. "You're
not going to get any support or credit when people drive by
and see, 'We're all going to hell'." It's also too easy for
people to label critics conspiracy theorists and be on with
their day, he said. He's done some research and taken a
close look at who's involved and he's convinced something
stinks.

The Brookstreet Hotel was off limits to all but staff and
Bilderbergers this weekend. Outside, heavy security staffed
metal gates blocking all access to the hotel's empty parking
lot. Two police cruisers patrolled the lot but even police
officers who can usually go anywhere couldn't approach the
hotel without a special Bilderberg-issued pass.

BLACK LIMOS
Even yesterday, as a steady stream of black limos with
tinted windows ferried the privileged participants away from
the hotel, onlookers were kept off the property.

Bilderberg is criticized for being accountable to no one and
circumventing democracy by privately discussing public
issues -- and some suspect setting public policy. Members
say they're building transatlantic understanding, frankly
talking about issues, but they prefer to do it in private
where invited participants can speak freely.

Secret meetings that have Indigo Books CEO Heather Reisman,
Richard Perle, one of George W. Bush's top advisors,
billionaire David Rockefeller and Holland's Queen Beatrix in
the same group? "What could they possibly have to say to one
another?" O'Donnell asked. "And why hide in secrecy if
they're talking about good? It just seems to stink of
something."

ALL TOGETHER NOW
In Homer The Great, a classic 1995 episode of The Simpsons
which parodies the Bilderberg group, the Freemasons and
other shadowy organizations, Homer joins a secret society
called the Stone-cutters. The group's evil motives are
summed up in their theme song:

WE DO! (THE STONECUTTERS' SONG)
Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs cavefish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!

JCT: Boy, conspiracy theorists must be paranoid.
---

>Secretive group's departure as low-key as arrival
>Small group of protesters watches as annual meeting comes
to an end
>http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=12fd4eaa-1b87-48da-9fe7-\
802c05f926b9&k=62919
Photograph by : Jean Levac, The Ottawa Citizen
by Tom Spears, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Monday, June 12, 2006

JCT: I saw the Citizen car with the reporter all Sunday
morning but he never came over to find out why the most-
times picketers were there. Typical Citizen nose for news or
just aware of the black-out on Turmel. Still, you'd think
the million Ottawans who know me might have been interested
to know why me and mama were on our third while most hadn't
even heard of these guys until now, 23 years later. But if
notorious Ottawa politician busted with life sentence supply
of marijuana on Parliament Hill can be squelched by all
three Ottawa dailies, notorious Ottawa politician being
most-often Bilderberg picketer shouldn't break the black-
list either.

TS: Four days after they arrived quietly at a Kanata hotel,
the world's rich and powerful left just as mysteriously, in
limos and SUVs with blacked-out windows. The Bilderberg
Group, a secretive organization of politicians and business
leaders from around the world, gave no public statements.
With private security guards and metal barriers keeping
outsiders on the street, the Bilderbergers met privately and
then whisked themselves away in ones and twos, mostly to the
airport. What they talked about at the Brookstreet Hotel is
still a secret. The group meets annually, and is usually
rumoured to discuss international politics and business,
from Middle East crises to oil prices.

They emerged singly yesterday -- Bilderberg president
Etienne Davignon of Belgium, American David Rockefeller,
Italian economist Mario Monti, European competition
commissioner Neelie Kroes from the Netherlands, and,
watchers thought, Iraqi politician Ahmed Chalabi.

Protesters on the sidewalk have their own version of the
agenda: world domination, a merger of Canada with the United
States and Mexico, hiding the cure for cancer, suppression
of cars that get 200 miles per gallon of fuel, an invasion
of Iran, and slavery for the common people of all countries.

JCT: Someone mentioned slavery without mentioning the yoke
of oppression, the interest?

TS: About a dozen protesters stood outside yesterday,
slightly fewer than on Saturday. Two police officers watched
from across the street while others were inside the hotel.
They carried signs protesting the "NWO" (new world order)
and denouncing the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks as "an
inside job."

JCT: Tough sell linking that to the Bilderbergs. A straw
horse?

TS: "When you've got this many high rollers in one place,
then there's a story," said Geoff Matthews, editor and
publisher of a small newspaper called the Kingston Eye
Opener. "In my opinion, what they started to plan about 10
years ago is the unification of North America without the
consent of the people. It's now in fast-forward."

The meetings always draw intensely curious outsiders who
believe the Bilderbergers need to be exposed. One of these
is Daniel Estulin, a Canadian who moved to Spain about 15
years ago -- because, he says, the Central Intelligence
Agency tried to kill him.

JCT: Another off-target spokesperson for the oppressed.

TS: He feels safer in Spain. "I'm much further out of the
reach of the secret service -- both Canadian and American."
"I write the stories everyone else is afraid to write," he
said.

JCT: Sure does help the story build the "paranoid conspiracy
theorist" image, doesn't it? But those of us following my
MedPot wars know how the treatment of a real reformer is
never with a truthful accounting on TV, it's no press while
Judas Goats like Alan Young representing lawyers and Alison
Myrden representing Law Enforcement Against Prohibition get
the interviews. We've learned that if they're on orthodox
TV, they're usually not real reformers since real reformers
rarely don't get on TV unless they're really really tricky
and lucky and plucky.

TS: He and others staked out positions on the sidewalk where
they could get a clear view of the hotel's front door. For
hours, they watched through binoculars and telephoto lenses,
waiting as men and women got into limos. Cameras clicked,
and the Bilderberg-watchers scrolled through digital images
afterwards, trying to identify which member of the group
they had just recorded.

JCT: And as they passed out, John "The Engineer" with the
with hard-hat flashed the financial salvation message for
the 3rd time to all these clutzes and nose for news Tom
Spears didn't notice Ottawa's most notorious politician
among the protestors for a record setting 3rd protest.

TS: Alex Jones, a documentary filmmaker from Texas, showed
up with two of his crew. "Man, this is just evil," he
muttered as he paced up and down, watching more limos drive
past. He was detained on his arrival in Canada, but says he
was released after other media asked questions about him.
"It's a group of very powerful individuals whose objective
is to create one world government, based on an economic
model from the Middle Ages," he said. This would be "a post-
industrial model where you have slaves and slave owners." He
claimed to have Bilderberg insiders feeding him information.

JCT: I just look at the results around me to condemn those
of influence on today's mess. Besides, I like one big fair
world government and don't see that it's necessarily got to
be organized wrong. Especially once there's enough funding
to organize the planet's salvation optimally. But to link us
slaves because they are one Big Brother, I've always
welcomed just one slave-master because it's just one
computer I have to reprogram to correct the positive
feedback malfunction. While others decry bank mergers, I
welcome less central computers whose financial software I'll
have to update to UNILETS.

TS: Protester J. P. Arial of Ottawa was there for the fourth
straight day. "They're ruining our planet.

JCT: Now's where you should throw in how they're clutzes and
we're not going to punish them though it is time to give up
the reins of control and let competent banking systems
software engineering take over.

TS: They're suppressing free energy, controlling the food
industry. They're forcing farmers to switch to genetically
modified seeds," he said. "They want to control everyone. No
freedom, no democracy."

JCT: Slavery, which is why the name of the political party I
founded was the Abolitionist Party of Canada, here to finish
the job of liberation from debts that the metal chain
Abolitionists didn't see.

TS: But most of Kanata took no notice of the black cars
running in and out between the computer companies, past the
line-up at Tim Hortons on March Road, and off to the
airport.

JCT: Just as Tom took no notice of John and Therese Turmel
setting a mini-Canadian record on the topic.

There's a list of some of the people who don't mind being
associated with the man responsible for getting us into
"aggressive war" crimes:

Andrzej Olechowski, Poland politician,

Egil Myklebust, a Norwegian oil and gas group

Robert Zoellick deputy secretary of state to Condoleeza Rice

James B. Steinberg, Clinton dep nat security adviser

Juan Luis Cebrian CEO of media conglomerate Grupa Prisa

Mario Monti, is an Italian economist (Har har har).

Jean-Pierre Hansen CEO of Belgium energy giants

Neelie Kroes Dutch politician

Franco Bernabe vice-chairman of European Rothschild bank

David Rockefeller Trilateral Commission Chase Manhattan Bank

Frank McKenna Canada's ambassador to the U.S.

Jorma Ollila CEO of Nokia Corporation

Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands

Richard Perle was assistant secretary of defence to U.S.
president Ronald Reagan and is still considered influential
in the U.S., having advised President George W. Bush. Mr.
Perle served as chairman of the Defence Policy Board from
2001-2003 and was assistant secretary of defence for
international security policy from 1981 to 1987. His
opinions appear regularly in the New York Times, Wall Street
Journal and London's Daily Telegraph.

JCT: Christ said: "Blessed be the warmakers" not. Christ
said "Blessed be the peace-makers." Perle is a war-maker.

James Wofensohn president of the World Bank

Etienne Davignon Belgian politician

John Vinocur International Herald Tribune

Adrian Wooldridge is the Economist's Washington bureau chief

Vernon Jordan Clinton Washington insider

Tony Comper CEO of BMO Financial Group

Dermot Gleeson chairman of Allied Irish Banks

JCT: So, no mention of Ottawa home-boy's record Bilderberg
protest in the Ottawa media. And focus on lots of wild
accusations as if the media had their own agenda going on.
Anyway, I found it very therapeutic. I think mom did too.



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: Those are the words on the placard carried by Quebec
Social Credit Matriarch Therese Turmel outside the
Brookstreet Hotel and Spa on Legget Drive in Ottawa on
Saturday afternoon and then on Sunday morning as the elite
leave the spa after earnest discussions on how to save our
precious planet considering they're the clutzes who've been
in charge of creating the mess we're in so far. Imagine
anyone wanting to be associated with the crew who got the
plant in this predicament.

Of course, I was hoping for another "face-to-face" with
David Rockefeller like upon is exit from the 1983 Montebello
conference. "Farm Foreclosures = More starvation! Bankers
Starve Third World Babies.
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/imf82.htm

It was not to be. By the time we got there, all the real
action had taken place, limos pulling in, helicopters,
security, a grand show of pomp and importance. When Mom and
I got there on Saturday afternoon, there were half a dozen
reporters and a dozen protesters and spectators.

I introduced myself with a few money poems, explained how
the boys now in control of the B System were screwing it up.
Leaving it a slavery system when it could be a service
system. Stayed more than an hour.

And then, today, there was a great hoopla about Alex Jones
protesting at the Bilderbergs.

In my last report "Social Credit Matriarch at 3rd Bilderberg
picket," I cited the report of

>By James P. Tucker Jr.
>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:08:05 -0400
>Subject: BILDERBERG MEETING IN OTTAWA
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderberg_to_meet_in_canada.html

Probably:
>Glen McGregor , with files from Andrew Mayeda.
>CanWest News Service; Ottawa Citizen
>Wednesday, May 24, 2006
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=3Dff614eb8-02cc-
<http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=3Dff614eb8-02cc->
41a3-a42d-30642def1421&k=3D62840

JCT: Update to the conference.

>The Ottawa Citizen
>Date: Thu Jun 8, 2006 12:02 pm (PDT)
>Andrew Seymour and Andrew Mayeda, with James Bagnall
>http://canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?
id=3D11df53f7-6caf-4385-a6de-9e7793ed7d29&k=3D86601

>Elite firm to guard top-secret meeting in Kanata
>VIPs set to arrive for Bilderberg meeting

SMB: Andrew Seymour, Andrew Mayeda, James Bagnall

SMB: An elite private security firm has been hired to guard
a top-secret meeting of some of the world's most powerful
business and political leaders at a Kanata hotel starting
today. Members of the Bilderberg Group will descend on the
upscale Brookstreet Hotel for the three-day meeting, several
police sources confirmed yesterday. At least four off-duty
Ottawa police officers will be part of the security for the
event. The highly secretive session, expected to touch on
global issues such as the direction of oil markets and
potential military action against Iran, will run through
Sunday. Senior Ottawa police officers met yesterday
afternoon to discuss preparations for the event, which
police are concerned may draw the attention of anti-
globalization protesters as well as present a potential
security risk as a collection of the world's richest and
most influential people gather under one roof.

JCT: After protests in Washington, Philadelphia, the Battle
in Seattle, the movement left the Millennium Declaration to
the grand-daddy of the anti-globalisation protestors.

SMB: When asked about police plans for the event, a police
spokeswoman referred the Citizen to Alan Bell of Globe Risk
Holdings. Reached by phone, Mr. Bell -- who is listed as
president of Globe Risk Holdings in Toronto and a former SAS
paratrooper commando -- said he hadn't heard of the
Bilderberg Group and denied that his firm has been hired to
guard this week's conference. "Never heard of that
conference. What is it? What do they do?" said Mr. Bell
before politely cutting the conservation short.

JCT: Wasn't it funny in the last report how the hotel
manager had said the same thing. He too laughingly lied
right in our faces and the reporters laughingly reported the
lies with their best straight faces. It's security, that's
the reason they had to lie. Security is always the reason
government uses to lie.

SMB: But according to the company's website, Globe Risk
Holdings specializes in "strategic planning and counter-
measures," recruits its consultants primarily from elite
military counter-terrorist and special forces units, and has
"undertaken consultancy and project work worldwide in areas
of high risk" including Africa, Central and South America
and Asia.

JCT: Can't blame rich people from using security. Isn't
freedom incomparably nicer for those of us too unimportant
to need armed men to escort us everywhere. A supporter who
had left a little earlier had stopped to read her paper at a
local Tim Horton's Coffee and Donut Shop (Canada's greatest
addiction) when a cortege of the elite stopped to give them
a small taste of Canadiana. Security guards jumped out and
protected them as they went in to get their coffee and donut
like most Canadians have done. I wouldn't want to be an
important person of this world for anything when the life of
a pauper can be so almost care-free.

SMB: "The consultants at Globe Risk Holdings have proven
backgrounds in military, special forces, law enforcement and
government organizations with real life expertise in the
areas of international security, mining, energy exploration
security, counter-terrorism, kidnapping, specialized
training, close protection, sabotage prevention, and
military/law enforcement," reads the company website.
"Knowledgeable and discreet, our consultants work together
as a team to offer the quality of service necessary to meet
all our clients' needs."

JCT: So did they know Bank Protestor John Turmel was coming?

SMB: It's not known if any current heads of state are
expected to attend the meeting.

JCT: Do they remember me with my picket sign in the 1983
procession line of Her Majesty The Queen Elizabeth II?
Anyone ever seen a person with a placard within bopping
distance of the Queen? The Ottawa Police trusted me from my
years of protests at the Bank of Canada and Parliament Hill
and security permitted in the third row with my placard!

SMB: Prime Minister Stephen Harper has been linked to the
group after attending a Bilderberg conference in Versailles,
France in 2003. A spokeswoman for the prime minister said
yesterday he would not be attending the conference and that
officials at the Prime Minister's Office weren't aware of
the event.

JCT: No need to attend once he's already received their
blessing for whatever mess he was their boy in charge of
creating. Didn't he also want Canadians to benefit from
funerals from Iraq as well as Afghanistan? Isn't he hopping
eager to have some funerals to preside over from Iran? Any
man younger than me (55) who can look me in the eye and say
he thinks marijuana is more dangerous to this children than
alcohol is a traitor to the Woodstock Generation. What a
world coming, robot slaves to do work and birth control to
maximize partying. So they unleashed a plague and raised the
poverty-creation rate to bust a whole new underclass of
people driven to crime and despair by financial
circumstances. I still see a world with no cops involved in
gambling, sex, drugs and rock-and-roll coupled with
interest-free loans from the Timebank of the U.N., or the
TimeBank of Canada, or the Timebank of Ontario, or the
Timebank of Brantford, but best ofall, the Timebank of
Venezuela. Many of their tokens are backed up by oil.

Anyway, I told Harper I thought he was a traitor to the
youth for criminalizing a wonderful herbal high and forcing
them onto a horrible alcoholic low. It's not wonder they
picked him.

SMB: The Bilderberg Group is named after the Dutch hotel
where it held its first meeting in 1954. Since then, the
group has met annually in various locations throughout North
America and Europe, including Toronto in 1996 and the
Chateau Montebello in Quebec in 1983.

JCT: Har har har. Ma and I were there.

SMB: The list of attendees at last year's conference in
Germany is believed to have included the queens of Spain and
the Netherlands, former U.S. secretary of defence Henry
Kissinger, World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz, as well as
top executives and directors at such multinational
corporations as BP PLC, Siemens AG, Deutsche Bank Group and
DaimlerChrysler AG. Canadian attendees are believed to have
included Robert Pritchard, chief executive of TorStar Corp.,
and Heather Reisman, chief executive of Indigo Books and
Music Inc. The group was originally conceived as a forum for
bridging the political and economic divide between Europe
and the United States during the Cold War.

But in recent years the group has taken on a mystique,
perhaps due to the secretive nature of the meetings. The
group has no website, and attendees promise not to disclose
the subject of the talks. Even newspaper and magazine
editors and media executives who attend the event are sworn
to secrecy. Bilderberg insiders say the approach enables
participants to discuss political and economic issues
without worrying how their opinions will be spun by the
media. But it has also made the group a prime target for
critics and conspiracy theorists who say its members come to
important decisions about global public policy behind closed
doors.

Whatever the case, Brookstreet staff are staying tight
lipped about the conference. The hotel's general manager,
Patrice Basille, didn't immediately return a call yesterday.
He has previously said he was unaware of the event.

JCT: He was left out of the loop or the poor man, Patrice
Basille, was forced by security to lie.

SMB: A Citizen reporter who called to make dinner
reservations was told the hotel will be closed between June
8 and 11 to accommodate a private function.
- - -

A Memorable Evening With the Bilderbergers

They were welcomed by an exquisite array of cakes bearing
the flags of the world. In the evening, they dined on
venison -- or was it quail? -- but only after the Bilderberg
tasters made sure nothing was amiss with the sauce.

It has been more than two decades since one of the most
powerful and exclusive clubs in the world held its annual
meeting close to Canada's national capital.

But if this weekend's conference at the Brookstreet Hotel is
anything like the meeting at the Chateau Montebello in
Quebec in May 1983, it will be a closely choreographed
affair swathed in luxury -- and a discreet but omnipresent
layer of security.

Today, Jacques Ternois is director of hotel operations at
charter airline Air Transat. But when the Bilderberg Group
met in Montebello, about 30 kilometres east of Ottawa, he
was in charge of food and beverage operations at the resort.

Mr. Ternois doesn't remember the exact menu served to the
Bilderbergers, but he does remember the security guards
stationed at the kitchen doors, the background checks that
his staff had to undergo, and the food "consultants" brought
in to oversee the meal.

JCT: The important issues certainly do get covered! Har har
har har.

SMB: Nevertheless, Mr. Ternois said the extra precautions
weren't intrusive and the conference went off smoothly. "I
wouldn't say it was secretive. I would say low key," he
said. "They were very simple in their demands." Mr. Ternois
said attendees came and went at various times throughout the
conference due to their tight schedules. He couldn't recall
all the names on the guest list -- after all, he was working
-- or what they discussed. "If I'm not wrong, I think
(Henry) Kissinger was there," he said. "There were several
heads of state or close to that."

Critics and conspiracy theorists find the group's
clandestine ways disturbing.

JCT: Always keep in mind that the guys the media pick to
quote are often the Alan Young - kind of moles doing the
talking to sabotage the real movement.

SMB: They accuse the group of seeking to depose political
leaders and set global oil policy. But Bilderberg insiders
insist the reality is far less sinister. "I don't think (we
are) a global ruling class because I don't think a global
ruling class exists," Bilderberg chairman Etienne Davignon
told the BBC last year. "It's people who have influence
interested to speak to other people who have influence."

JCT: Gee, David Rockefeller used to be Chairman.

SMB: Mr. Ternois, for his part, says the Bilderberg
conference was one of the most prestigious events with which
he has ever been associated. He still keeps a photo at home
of resort staff and some of the attendees. "It has a special
place in my heart," he said.

JCT: And today met James P. Tucker. I heard he was staying
at the Embassy West Hotel one more day and went down to
meet him. He was the first whose digging into this group
game me my first inkling that the wanna-be political leaders
who got invites to be looked over by David Rockefeller and
the Bilderberg crew seemed to inevitably end up leader.

That's all. A group that can exert such seeming influence on
our political and economic life whose collusion rules and
whose deliberations go on in secret is an affront and I have
James P. Tucker to thank for having kept up on their comings
and goings.

As to their actual importance in the world of secret power,
if you can see them, they are the puppets, not the
puppeteers. So am I impressed by a few crowns, tiaras, and
electoral acclamations by hypnotized masses? The bigger the
bankroll, the longer it takes me to break them, that's all.
Yeah, the size of the guy's inheritance is really going to
awe me. Har har har har.




--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: We're all so busy watching Parker fight to get his
seized marijuana back after a Canada Post search of his mail
that many people forgot that Parker's our last challenge to
the Hitzig resurrection at the Supreme Court of Canada too.
Boy, are they beating on the wrong guy.

Parker is poor enough to qualify for leave to appeal in
"forma pauperis" in which case, section 59(4) says he is
exempt from the filing deadlines in section 58 that "not-
pauper-enough" richer applicants have to meet.

The Registrar simply told him he wanted him to get an Order
extending the time to appeal like all non-paupers have to
without ever explaining why "forma pauperis" status did not
belong to Parker. So the Registrar dismissed Canada most
important medpot case as abandoned for lack of usual Order
extending the time.

Pursuant to Rule 73, Parker filed for reconsideration of the
Registrar's decision denying him his Pauper Status and if
so, requests an extension of time to file Canada's most
important medical marijuana case.

To read this without JCT: commentary, it's at
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot-discuss/files/tpdrcm.txt

File Number: #31245
                IN THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA
         (ON APPEAL FROM THE COURT OF APPEAL FOR ONTARIO)
BETWEEN
                       Terrance Parker
                                                    Applicant
                                     Moving Party (Appellant)
                             AND
                    Her Majesty the Queen
                                                   Respondent
                                Responding Party (Respondent)

              MEMORANDUM OF ARGUMENT IN RESPONSE
              TO THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION
  (Rules 6, 73 and 78 of the Supreme Court of Canada Rules)

PART I - STATEMENT OF FACTS

CR: A. OVERVIEW

1. This motion arises from an application for leave to
appeal (the Application) which was dismissed by the
Registrar because, despite the fact that the application was
filed more than two years beyond the deadline for doing so,
the Applicant failed to file any material in support of an
extension of time.

JCT: Claiming his status as a pauper under Section 59(4)
exempted him from the deadline in Section 58 of the Act.

CR: In the absence of such material, the Application was
incomplete.

JCT: If the claim to pauper's status was wrong.

CR: The Registrar advised the Applicant of the deficiency
but the Applicant refused to file the necessary materials.

JCT: Refused by claiming pauper's exemption status.

CR: After three months, the Registrar issued an Order
dismissing the Application as abandoned.

JCT: Without ever explaining why Applicant's claim to pauper
status did not apply.

CR: The Applicant now seeks reconsideration of the Order of
the Registrar.
2. There are absolutely no grounds for disturbing the Order
of the Registrar. The Applicant has provided no explanation
for his failure to file his application for leave to appeal
in a timely manner,

JCT: Yes, he explained another co-appellant had sought leave
to appeal, Turmel, land he didn't want to duplicate the
effort.

CR: or for his repeated failure to file the materials
required under the Rules.

JCT: Not required with forma pauperis status.

CR: This motion is wholly without merit and should be
dismissed.

JCT: So far, other than stating Applicant has no status to
be exempt from section 58, no one has yet broached why
section 59(4) does not apply.

CR: B. FACTS

3. The decision of the Court of Appeal for Ontario which
gave rise to the application was issued on October 7 2003.2

4. The time period within which to seek leave to appeal from
that decision expired on December 8, 2003.

JCT: I also echo but for S.59 exceptions in forma pauperis.

CR: 5. The Applicant served and filed his application for
leave to appeal to this Honorable Court on December 15 2005,
more than two years beyond the expiry of the time period for
doing so.

JCT: If the Crown repeats, I repeat it's because...

CR: The material filed in support of his Application
did not include any attempt to explain the reason for such a
significant delay in seeking leave to appeal to this
Honorable Court.

JCT: The echo says someone else was doing it so there was no
need to until the most important medpot challenge was
dismissed without adjudication. Then he had to take over.

CR: 6. On December 22, 2005, the Registrar of this Honorable
Court advised the Applicant in writing that the Application
would not be considered complete unless he filed a motion
for an extension of time to serve and file the Application.

JCT: Why? because Applicant claimed section 59(4) exemption.


7. After three months had passed, and the Application
remained incomplete, the Registrar gave notice to the
Applicant pursuant to Rule 64 advising that the Application
was incomplete and would be dismissed as abandoned.

JCT: For non paupers, yes, for paupers, maybe no? Now we
find out why.


CR: The only means to avoid dismissal, according to the
Notice, was for the Applicant to obtain an order by a judge
of the Court extending the time for filing the necessary
material. No such Order was obtained.

JCT: Unless Applicant didn't need to comply with s.58.



CR: 8. On April 6, 2006, the Registrar dismissed the
Application as abandoned.

9. The Applicant filed the motion herein on May 8 2006
seeking reconsideration of the Order of the Registrar.

JCT: Since it had the same effect as dismissal by the court.

CR: As relief, the Applicant requests an Order
a) declaring that pursuant to section 59(4) of the Act,
Section 58 time deadlines do not apply to applications for
leave to appeal in forma pauperis; or
b) granting an extension of time to file the application for
leave to appeal if section 59(4) does not apply.

PART II - QUESTIONS IN ISSUE

10. The Respondent submits two issues arise on this motion:

(a) Has the Applicant brought this motion within the 20-day
time limit set by Rule 78(1)? and if so,

JCT: Applicant used the Rule 73 challenge, though a judge
always has the power to change it to a Rule 78(1) challenge.


(b) Has the Applicant identified any reason for disturbing
the Order of the Registrar?

JCT: With 4,000 bogus marijuana possession charges were dropped
due to Applicant's Appeal to the Ontario Court of Appeal,
getting past the tip of the iceberg to correcting the other
quarter million bogus convictions remains to be done. The
Crown has not contradicted the national importance of this
challenge to a case which was cited as precedent in the 2005
Martin's Criminal Code of Canada!

CR: PART III - ARGUMENT

A. THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO BRING THIS MOTION WITHIN THE
20-DAY TIME LIMIT SET BY RULE 78(1)

JCT: Echoing we're going with s.73 but don't care if the
judge changes the mode to 78(1).

CR: 11. The decision which the Applicant seeks to review is
an order of the Registrar dismissing the Application as
abandoned. Therefore, despite the Applicant's attempts to
characterize the motion herein as a "motion for
reconsideration" pursuant to Rule 73, it is in fact for
review of an order of the Registrar pursuant to Rule 78.

JCT: And the most important case in Canadian history was
filed before 30 days, not 20 days?

CR: 12. Rule 78(1) of the rules of this Honourable Court
state that a motion for review of an order of the Registrar
must be filed within 20 days after the Registrar makes the
order.

JCT: That's the Crown's power point.

CR: 13. The Registrar made the Order on April 6 2006.
Therefore, the deadline for filing the motion herein was
April 6 2006. However, the Applicant did not file the motion
until May 8 2006. Furthermore, the Applicant has made no
attempt to obtain leave of this Honourable Court to file his
motion beyond the deadline set out in the Rules.

B. THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO IDENTIFY ANY REASON FOR
DISTURBING THE ORDER OF THE REGISTRAR

14. In the event that this Honourable Court should find that
the motion was not filed out of time,

JCT: Why would that be? Oh right, he's claiming an exemption
from Section 58 from somewhere.

CR: the motion should nonetheless be dismissed on the ground
that the Applicant has failed to identify a single valid
reason for disturbing the Registrar's Order.

JCT: The challenge to the most important precedent in
Canadian history is ready to go and should be heard.
National importance matters. The Crown cannot dispute the
importance of the precedent that is being challenged.

CR: 15. The only reason offered by the Applicant to justify
the review of the Order is based on a fundamental
misinterpretation of a provision of the Supreme Court of
Canada Act.

16. The Applicant does not dispute that the Application was
served and filed two years beyond the 60-day deadline
prescribed by section 58 of the Act.

JCT: So Section 58 says "applications for leave to appeal"
have to be filed within 60 days. Section 58 deals with
deadlines for filing applications for leave to appeal.
Nothing else.

CR: Rather, he argues that the 60-day deadline set out in
section 58 for filing an application does not apply to him
by virtue of the fact that he is seeking leave in "forma
pauperis." In support of his argument, the Applicant cites
section 59(4) of the Act which reads:

"Appeals in forma pauperis
59(4) Notwithstanding anything in this Act, a judge may, on
an application for leave to appeal in forma pauperis, allow
an appeal by giving the applicant leave to serve notice of
appeal although the time prescribed by section 58 has
expired."

17. The clear and ordinary meaning of the words in section
59(4) of the Act cannot support the meaning ascribed to them
by the Applicant. Section 59(4) provides for the granting of
leave to serve a "notice of appeal" after the deadline for
doing so,

JCT: Where do they talk about a deadline for a notice of
appeal in s.58? They talk about a deadline for an
application for leave to appeal.

"58. (1) Subject to this Act or any other Act of Parliament,
the following provisions with respect to time periods apply
to proceedings in appeals:
(a) in the case of an appeal for which leave to appeal is
required, the notice of application for leave to appeal and
all materials necessary for the application shall be served
on all other parties to the case and filed with the
Registrar of the Court within sixty days after the date of
the judgment appealed from"

Notice there is no deadline in section 58 for anything but
the application for leave to appeal. So again, the Crown
says "Section 59(4) provides for the granting of leave to
serve a "notice of appeal" after the deadline for doing so,"
but there is no such deadline in s.58 for s.59(4) to apply
to. s.59(4) only applies to the 60-day deadline for
applications for leave to appeal.

CR: where the applicant has been granted leave to proceed in
forma pauperis.

JCT: After being granted leave to appeal, why would anyone
need s.59(4) to deal with the 60-day deadline in s.58? Har
har har har.

CR: Section 59(4) does not relieve all applicants proceeding
in forma pauperis from the requirement to justify an
extension of the 60-day deadline for service of the
application for leave to appeal.
a
JCT: Just drop the "not" to get: "Section 59(4) does relieve
all applicants proceeding in forma pauperis from the
requirement to justify an extension of the 60-day deadline
for service of the application for leave to appeal." Does
not." Does too." "Does not." "Does too." "Not." "Does too."

CR: In that sense, section 59(4) of the Act does not assist
the Applicant in this matter.

JCT: In the sense that you add a "not" to the meaning, it
does "not" assist. Drop the "not" and it does.

CR: 18. The Registrar's conclusion that the application was
not complete without a motion for an extension of time was
correct.

JCT: Because the Crown says "not" with the Registrar.

CR: The Applicant has offered no valid reason to disturb the
Order of the Registrar dismissing the Application as
abandoned.

JCT: Most nationally important case in Canadian history is a
pretty valid reason.

CR: 19. As alternative relief, the Applicant asks this
Honourable court for an extension of time to file the
Application.

JCT: If a judge says that Applicant does not have pauper's
status to have the most important case in Canadian history
adjudicated without an extension of time, then grant the
extension of time adjudicate the most important case in
Canadian history.

CR: However, in the absence of any valid reason for varying
the Order of the Registrar, that Order stands and the
Application is dismissed. Therefore, the alternative relief
sought by the Applicant is simply not available. Even if
such alternative relief were available in this case, the
Applicant has offered absolutely no justification for the
two-year delay in filing the Application.

JCT: Also repeating that someone else was raising the most
important challenge at the time but never got it adjudicated
so Parker's coming up the rear.

CR: C. CONCLUSION

20. The motion now before this Honourable Court is entirely
without merit and should be dismissed.

JCT: It's the most important case in our history and should
be treated accordingly.

CR: PART IV - SUBMISSIONS CONCERNING COSTS

21. The Respondent does not seek costs in this motion.

JCT: Pauper's pay less court costs too! They wouldn't get
very much.

CR: PART V - ORDER SOUGHT

22. The Respondent respectfully requests that the within
motion be dismissed.
ALL OF WHICH IS RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED.
Dated at Toronto this 6th day of June 2006.
James Gorham
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CANADA
Department of Justice,
3400 - 130 King St. W., Box 36
Toronto Ontario M5X 1K6
Tel: 416-954-2929
Fax: 416-952-0298
Email: james.gorham@...
Of Counsel for the Respondent

JCT: I guess the funniest limb the Crown found himself
hanging from was that s.58 contained some other deadline
than for applications for leave to appeal. Har har har har.
I'll have to prepare a quick Reply for Terry to file. What
fun to beat up on Government lawyers.



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: In September 2005, Derek Francisco's doctor completed his
Marijuana Medical Access Regulations (MMAR) application for
an exemption for medical use.

On Jan 5 2006, Derek Francisco, was busted and charged with
s.4(1) possession and s.7(1) cultivation of marijuana. They
busted his wife too.

He learned about the Krieger case and started pushing the
Crown with happy results.

>Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:43:40 +0000
>From: cisco_117@... (cisco_117)
>Subject: Friend receives 6 months probation and 500$ fine
>To: MedPot-discuss@yahoogroups.com

Hello Everyone,
My friend was charged with cultivation, possession, back in
the fall. I had given him the Health Canada application
before he was busted, but he was waiting to see his doctor.
The police never had a warrant to search, but he consented
once they were there and they told him they would come back
with one if needed. The police took his application at that
time & refused to give it back.
He now holds a federal exemption and on Monday was given 6
months probation, a $500 charitable donation, but they
withdrew his charges! He just wanted to get it over with,
and have no criminal record. The lawyer said he could
probably beat it, but wanted $3000, to go to trial. So he
took the deal to save himself the money. Derek Francisco

JCT: Sad to think of those too sick to try to be a winner.
$3 Grand for an easy beat!

>Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:53:17 +0000
>From: cisco_117@... (cisco_117)
>Subject: [MedPot-discuss] My wife's letter to the editor

Here's the letter to the editor that my wife did after her
charges were withdrawn:

"The police officers' actions, resulted in damage to my
professionalism, character and outstanding reputation I have
worked hard to build.

After being suspended from work without pay for 5 weeks, my
charges were withdrawn on Feb.14/06, without Derek pleading
guilty.

Derek has been completely honest about his use of medical
marijuana. A year ago he started to apply for a medical
exemption. After a year of searching for a doctor who would
participate in Health Canada's program, had the forms filled
out by his doctor.

Due to many flaws in Health Canada's program there has been
several delays in processing it.

Is it in the best interest of the public to prosecute Derek,
when he has medical documents signed by a doctor before the
date of this raid, acknowledging that this is the best form
of treatment for him? A waste of taxpayer money, and
valuable court time!
Sonya Hill Coboconk"

JCT: On April 4 2006, Derek Francisco received his MMAR
Exemption!

Since then, he has readied is exactly analogous to Krieger
prohibition challenge against the continued enforcement of
the cultivation s.7(1) which was struck down by Krieger in
Alberta and never re-enacted by Parliament, also analogous
to Pierre Drouin's current challenge to s.7(1) at the
Ontario Court of Appeal with Real Martin and John Turmel.

On May 29 2006, at Ontario Superior Court in Lindsay,
Derek's lawyer, who has been given the Krieger prohibition
documentation, told him the Crown Lloyd Greenspoon would
take a guilty plea on the section 7(1) cultivation charge
for 1 year probation with no reporting.

They had seized all Derek's grow equipment and Derek said he
wanted his equipment back because there was a case of sick
guys (the Toronto Trio) who had gotten their growing
equipment back. The lawyer told him it was doubtful to
expect his equipment back but off to tell the Crown of the
request. When he came back, the Crown had agreed to give
Derek the equipment back.

They had seized his 196 grams of marijuana, 7 ounces, and
Derek then insisted that he wanted his legal medicine back
too. Again, the lawyer said they'll never give the marijuana
back but trundled off to tell the Crown of Derek's latest
demand for his legal medicine back too. The lawyer came back
to say the Crown had agreed to the return of everything.

Derek said: "No, I can't plead guilty to a law that no
longer exists in Canada. I get a complete walk on the
charges with all my stuff or there's no deal."

Har har har har har. Har har har har. Here's a man with
nothing more to lose and only much revenge to gain from
those who persecuted him and his family.

Derek returns to court on June 15th. The lawyer wants him to
think about taking the deal and Derek wants the lawyer to
think about presenting his application to declare the law
still dead. Nice to think Derek might get his lawyer to do
the coup de grace for us. But Derek know's his Krieger cards
too in case it's too big for the lawyer to handle.

Derek's a victim of this unjust prohibition who is angry at
what they did to him and his family and knows he has a
golden opportunity available to so few to invulnerablely
champion the Abolish Prohibition of Marijuana cause.



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

>From: "vlario" <vlario@...>
>Date: Mon Jun 5, 2006 8:06 am
>Subject: Twisted mind: TURMEL on Canadian Action Suit

> JRD: The complaint filed Friday April 15, 2005 in the
> Supreme Court of British Columbia at New Westminster,
> alleges that all financial institutions who are in the
> business of lending money have engaged in a deliberate
> scheme to defraud the borrowers by lending non-existent
> money which are illegally created by the financial
> institutions out of "thin air."

MS: Yes, right.

> JCT: Just like LETS credits are created right out of thin
> air. Just like Casino Turmel poker chips are created right
> out of thin air. There's no intent to defraud in any of
> our cases. The "it's illegal to lend non-existent chips
> which are created out of thin air" crowd are again
> off-target. Are they going to attack LETS too?

MS: When you create money out of thin air AND SPEND IT, you
get the seigniorage which belong to the sovereign.

JCT: The banks do not create and spend it, they create it
and put in your account. You spend it and your receive your
seignorage, not the banks. What a ridiculous point. Haven't
you looked at the banking system blueprint at
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/bankmath.htm Or is too hard
for you? You don't even know how the banking system works
and you want to open your mouth in public and challenge
The Engineer. So the banks do not spend it and the banks do
not steal your seignorage. The borrower obtains his
seignorage and gets full value for your almost worthless
medium of exchange.

MS: In democracy, where the people are entitled to
sovereignty, the seigniorage is withheld by smart guys like
you exploiting the fact that the money creation process is
unknown-misunderstood by the cattle you exploit. This is
really counterfaiting and breach of trust.

JCT: So since you're wrong about the banks stealing your
seignorage, stealing the value for your new money from your
account, you're wrong about this too. Stealing seignorage is
not the crime of the banks, charging 11 when they only
created 10 is the crime of mort-gage death-gamble, the
genocide of the poor by fatal need.

> JCT: Same criticism for LETS creating Greendollars out of
> nothing and no one says it contravenes the Criminal Code.

MS: Because the banking cartel is involved in the very same
seigniorage fraud. (If you don't like the ancient word
seigniorage, you can use 'monetary rent' which is about the
same.)

JCT: Oh, now he tries to link his "seigniorage" to the
interest rent. So he mis-identifies money's rent, interest,
with a new name "seigniorage." Har har har har. Everyone
else in the world calls it money's rent "interest" but not
Marco Saba.

> JCT: Graham Towers explained how they created the
> money they lend so of course, they did have the new chips
> to lend.

MS: Yes, but they are not entitled to the whole seigniorage
- only to the expenses they incurred printing the tickets.

JCT: Back to the problem being who scores the original value
of the new money put into the bank account, not the
interest.

MS: The IFI act like a typography advocating she can spend
Football Tickets only because she printed them in the first
time. Furthermore, central banks spend tickets and put the
revenues in the liability side of the balance sheet.

JCT: As Graham Towers quote pointed out: "The banks, of
course, do not lend out their depositors' funds; each and
every time a bank makes a loan, new bank credit is created,
brand new money." All they do is put new chips into your
account. The Trump Taj Mahal or Las Vegas Ceasar's Palace
put new chips into my account too when I pledge my
collateral. Seignorage is not the problem in today's economy
making Marco's conclusions as wrong as his premises.

MS: As if those unredeemables tickets may be paid off some
time in the future... The Euro case explain well how they
do: at time of redemption, they simply print out a new kind
of ticket, another fake IOU.

JCT: No government piece of paper I can pay my taxes with is
fake. Simply bad-mouthing the orthodox system doesn't help
if you are wrong. I bad-mouth them their crime too, but
unlike the Dempsey fraud, and Marco's ignorance, I only
attack the growth of debt beyond the capacity to repay.

MS: When the State coin money, the seigniorage goes to the
general state expenses, like a perfect tax which target all
the people proportionally.

JCT: If the government spends it, they get the seignorage.
If I spend it from my account, I do too. Who cares since the
banks do not profit from the original seignorage.

MS: When a private cartel print the USD - or the Euro - they
are simply exploiting dumb people who don't know about the
monetary rent.
So my advice: print cc to recover the monetary rent of paper
bills that the dumb State can't recover (a proof that
nuclear weapons are unuseful against government stupidity).

JCT: But LETS CC Community Currencies operate exactly like a
banks, giving each borrower their own seignorage too. Some
alternative, they both work the same. The only
difference between LETS and orthodox banks is that banks
charge both interest and service charges and LETS has
restricted its computers to the pure service charge and
abolised the interest charge. Gee, I asked the Supreme Court
of Canada to do that three times and when they said no, I
had to go out and built one for myself.

MS: Further more, print cc only in values ABOVE the value of
coins because coin seigniorage go to the State (Treasury
Department). Don't compete against the State, just compete
against the counterfaiters. And you have to explain to the
cc members how do you spend the CC RENT to gain a wide
informed consensus.

JCT: Offering the same thing as an alternative is starting
to sound like gibberish.

> JCT: He's under the impression that banks lend out their
> depositors' funds.

MS:In a certain sense they do it because they erode the
value of deposits by inflating the money pool.

JCT: I'm saying they don't lend out their depositors' funds
and he says that because they lend out new funds, it in a
certain sense the same thing. Not. The loans are coming out
of the New Money Tap pipe and not the Old Money Reservoir
pipe. Then again, Marco hasn't been able to follow the flows
in the pipes. Har har har har. It's so easy and he keeps
getting it wrong.

> JRD: The complaint alleges that the loan transactions are
> fraudulent because no value was ever imparted by the
> defendants to the Plaintiff; these defendants did not risk
> anything, nor lost anything and never would have lost
> anything under any circumstances and therefore no lien has
> been perfected according to law and equity against the
> Plaintiff.

> JCT: It's the same complaint against every LETS that
> simply helped the members effect trading between them with
> no value imparted by the LETS. Shut down LETS with the
> banks too?

MS: No, just make LETS more accountable by explaining what
you do (aside from playing poker)

JCT: At no point, are we talking about playing poker with
the poker chips. We're talking about using them as an
alternative currency in our every day lives. Of course,
Marco would confuse my using casino chips as a model for
government coins with my using poker as a model for the
economy. The never-ending confusion because he can't cope
with poker chips. Marco finds talking about poker chips not
worthy of the exalted discussions on magically mammon. Poker
chips isn't complicated enough to keep him confused so, to
avoid becoming unconfused, he won't think in terms of casino
chips. And I get to use him as the buffoon for my barbs. He
can't even follow basic plumbing blueprints.

MS: No, just make LETS more accountable by explaining what
you do (aside from playing poker) with the monetary rent
gained through LETS.

JCT: We don't gain any monetary rent through LETS. The
member gets the seignorage of the issuance of his IOUs and
the system gets a service charge for keeping track of who
offers what and owes how much to whom.

MS: The gain above the expenses needed to run the system
must be returned to the community adopting the LETS.

JCT: I wouldn't even care if the barter network made a
profit. I prefer my interest-free barter credits network be
a public utility but I wouldn't care it my interest-free
barter credits network was for profit either. As long as
it's service charge we can all pay and not usury we call
cannot pay, I don't care how the mechanics is funded. But I
prefer a public utility providing our banking services, but
not that much.

MS: How to do it is a political thing. My advice: give a
monthly paycheck to the housewives.

JCT: It's not our function to decide how the currencies are
used. It's our job to provide liquidity enough to permit all
necessary transactions and that's all. Of course, since
banks have homicidal control over us, some control can be
retained so why not stick our noses into economics? It's not
our function as bankers, it's the users duty. So I have no
comment on how you'd like to see a better money system used.

> JCT: Bingo and Bongo in the same sentence. Bingo, yes, the
> interest is criminal except he has not yet indicted it and
> again offers no Criminal Code sections. Bongo, no, of
> course they received the money they borrowed, most remember
> walking out of the bank with it.

MS: yes, the banks conned them which in turn are out with
"cash" to con somebody else.

JCT: The bank did not con them in liquifying their IOU. It
conned them into trying to pay back 11 for every 10 they
took out, thus creating the mort-gage death-gamble amongst
the borrowing participants who were granted the privilege of
getting into the game.

> JCT: LETS don't need anyone's permission to create new
> money out of nothing,

MS: But they need to be trusted by the community, something
that you will fail

JCT: Trust is a ridiculous issue in an interest-free system.
The piece of paper, deed, is worth the value stated. An Hour
of work, liter of oil, kilogram of grain. Receipts for
collateral are trustworthy. It's money afflicted by interest
that's untrustworthy. But then again, Marco doesn't know the
difference and wants to prepare against a danger of orthodox
currency that doesn't happen in a social currency.

MS: until: - you force the community to accept CC; - you
explain to them the advantage of getting the monetary rent
INSIDE of the community (and shared between members) instead
of sending that monetary rent to some Rothschild or
Rockefeller abroad.

JCT: I don't have to explain how LETS grants them their
seignorage whereas banks do not because banks do too. But
he's back condemning the interest to R&R after a whole
article without mentioning the word interest that R&R use
too. Har har har har.

> JCT: #17. Anyone has the power to create a monetary IOU,
> not just God. Besides, I've never seen money created by
> God.

MS: Yes but then you must be held accountable to the IOU;

JCT: Yes but..." Implying we are not? Of course, the whole
principle is that LETSers are held accountable to the IOU.
So what's with the "but?"

MS: redemption and correct bookkeeping which are lacking
from the current FIAT money scam.

JCT: Har har har. Marco knows how I make fun of people who
use the word "fiat" instead of the more generic "bad." How
many times have I challenged the world greatest experts in
community currencies here at ijccr to explain what "fiat"
money is and why it's of no value and no one, not even
Marco, has taken up the challenge. But Marco doesn't mind
using the card he didn't earn. Fiat means bad, a totally
untechnical criticism from a totally untechnical student of
banking systems engineering.

I know this may seem like a waste of time but I hope that
beating up on Marco and his inane ideas on social currency
teaches others to avoid his errors. God knows there are
enough errors being taught to cover Mammon's tracks but I
can discern the trail of gore quite readily.

And notice, not one of my criticisms was contradicted. And
there were over 20. So, just for the rush of demonstrating
my superiority of a supposed expert in money systems
engineering, I'll bet $100 Canadian on every one of my
criticisms being correct, or everyone of Dempsey's or Saba's
disagreements being wrong.

Flash the cash, bye bye trash. Put up or shut up. Any time
you want to put your money where you mouth is, just say "I
bet John The Engineer is wrong on his banking systems
engineering analysis." 27 years later and I'm still flashing
the cash and smashing the trash.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics

JCT: Back in June 2004, the police raided the home of Doug
and Laurie Nielsen and charged them with Section 4(1)
possession of 20 grams of marijuana. For those who don't
know, a gram is the weight of one tobacco cigarette or one
currency note. Police usually charge to children too so the
threat of ruining their young lives with a criminal record
may coerce the parents into a guilty plea. Despite both
parents claiming the few-day supply of medical marijuana for
themselves, 18-year-old Danielle was also charged. And they
included the Section 5(2) charge of possession for the
purpose of trafficking because they found Doug's business
scales that weigh down 1/1000th of one gram.

After using a Prohibition Application Kit, losing and going
to appeal, the Crown chose to drop all the charges against
Laurie and Danielle if Doug would plead guilty to the
merest S.4(1) possession charge and drop his appeal. Since
I, Pierre Drouin and Real Martin were already in on the
challenges which could nullify Doug's conviction with
everyone else's if we win, I advised them to take the deal n
call it a win.

Remember, they'd all been reporting monthly, and then
weekly, and spent a few nights in jail due to a mix-up in
court dates! The State of Canada did harm them
substantially. For the benefit of protecting Canadians
against a non-toxic herb that has never killed anyone?
Someday, traitor to the herbal generation Stephen Harper
will get to explain why he preferred his kids drink than
smoke herb. He's our leader and he's got his facts wrong.
When the leader doesn't want to know the truth, does not
seek out the truth, and lies, he's a Judas Goat. I did have
the pleasure of calling him a traitor to the "pepsi"
generation at his stop in Brantford during the last
election. Anyone younger than me who says herb is dangerous,
more dangerous than alcohol, is evil or stupid, a moron or a
mole.

>Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:57:48 +0000
>From: buds_4_life@... (doug_laurie_nielsen)
>Subject: Our final day in Court - The scales won the day!!
>To: MedPot-discuss@yahoogroups.com

We have had this transcript for a couple of weeks, but have
been so busy with work & re-doing our roof etc.. sorry it
took so long to get it posted on here.

This has got to be the worst transcript we've ever received.
The spelling is bad & there are actually a lot of things
that were left out.
Seeing it on paper doesn't convey just how mad the crown was
when Doug was willing to take the stand over the scales
either.
The back of his neck & the bald spot on the top of his head
went bright red, we could only imagine that his face was
just as red since he never looked back at us, not once
during the whole appearance until it was all over. He
slammed his ass down really hard in his chair & yelled "just
give them the damn thing, I'm not here prepared to argue
over a 4-1".
This all happened before he got caught up in his own lies
about consenting to our bail conditions being changed & the
judge pointed it out too.

Information Nos. 04-001379-01,04-001379-02,04-001379-03,06-
000031-01,06-000031-02,06-000031-03

ONTARIO COURT OF JUSTICE
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
v.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN LAUREL NIELSEN AND DANIELLE NIELSEN
      **********
PROCEEDINGS AT GUILTY PLEA
BEFORE THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE L.P. THIBIDEAU on March 23,
2006 at BRANTFORD, Ontario

JCT: I've always heard of Thibodeau, never Thibideau.

CHARGES:
Section 4(1) CDSA - Possession of Substance
Section 5(2)CDSA - Possession Purpose / Trafficking
Section 145(5)(b) - Fail to Appear

APPEARANCES:
G. Orsini Counsel for the Crown
G. Smith Federal Counsel for the Crown
D. Nielsen In Person

TUESDAY, MARCH 23, 2006

MR. SMITH: Your Honour, I wonder if we can deal first with
an accused by the name of Douglas Nielsen.

COURT CLERK: He's jointly charged with Danielle Nielsen and
Laurel Nielsen.

MR. SMITH: He's going to enter a plea of guilty, Your
Honour, to one count of possession of a controlled substance
contrary to Section 4(1), at which time I am going to
withdraw the charges against Laurel and Danielle. I might
also indicate to the court, Your Honour, that Mr. Nielsen,
Laurel Nielsen and Danielle Nielsen have an appeal before
the Court of Appeal pending. They have signed a notice of
abandonment of that appeal. Ms. Ornawka acting as an
intermediary, I guess, is holding the paperwork until the
plea is entered and he's sentenced, at which time I'll get a
copy of it and I'll provide a copy to you.

JCT: Doug and Laurie said they didn't trust Smith enough to
sign their abandonment and then be sentenced, and Smith
didn't trust them to do the plea and then have the appeal
abandoned, so they got a legal aid lawyer to hold the signed
Notice of Abandonment until the sentencing was over.

THE COURT: All right. Is Mr. Nielsen with us today?
MR. SMITH: Yes, he's right here.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you. Mr. Nielsen, did you hear
and understand what was being said, first?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes I did.
THE COURT: Are you representing yourself today?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes I am.
THE COURT: All right. Do you know whether you're eligible to
speak to duty counsel or not?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: No I'm not.
MR. RUNCO: For the record, Your Honour, I did conduct a
financial eligibility test for Mr. Nielsen, and he does not
qualify.

JCT: So Doug didn't qualify for Legal Aid and like many
other Canadians, faces onerous lawyer fees to fight off
being saddled with a criminal record. That's the real
penalty, paying lawyers to try to get you off on a
technicality, since, if the law is really resurrected by the
judges taking the law into their own hands, you're guilty
anyway.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you. Mr. Nielsen, I gather that
you've had conversations with Mr. Smith who's the federal
prosecutor, is that correct?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Pardon?
MR. SMITH: He didn't, not himself directly, he had, through
duty counsel, Mr. Vandervet who appeared at my office, and
this was pursuant to a resolution discussion, sir.
THE COURT: All right. Do you intend to enter a guilty plea
today to one charge, sir?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes, I do.
THE COURT: All right. In order to accept that plea, you have
to have an understanding of why you're doing that. First,
are you doing so of your own free will?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
THE COURT: By doing so, you're saying, I agree, I committed
the offence and the Crown can prove the offence against me.
Do you understand that?

JCT: Only to a judge who is ignorant that the law is dead.

DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
THE COURT: Secondly, the Crown will, Mr. Smith, on behalf of
the federal prosecution, will indeed read into the record
facts which will support the contention that you committed
the acts that give rise to the events. You will have the
opportunity to listen to those facts; you can agree or
disagree with any of them. Do you understand that?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes
THE COURT: If those facts are sufficient to prove the
offence they will be used for a finding of guilt. Lastly,
you may or may not have had conversations with respect to a
possible penalty, you should understand that the penalty is
the responsibility of the court no matter what submissions
are made. Any questions sir?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: No.
THE COURT: All right. We can proceed.
COURT CLERK: Douglas Nielsen, remain standing for a moment,
sir. Douglas Nielsen, you are charged that on or about the
2nd day of June, 2004 in the County of Brant in the said
Region, did unlawfully possess a controlled substance, to
wit: marijuana contrary to Section 4(1) of the Controlled
Drugs and Substances Act. How do you plead sir, guilty or
not guilty?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Guilty.
THE COURT: You can have a seat there, sir.
MR. SMITH: Briefly put, the 2nd of June, 2004 members of the
Brant County O.P.P. executed a CDSA warrant; it's a tele-
warrant to search the residence of Doug and Laurel, L-A-U-R-
E-L NIELSEN, located at 46 Mechanic Street in the Town of
Paris. The tele-warrant was presented before Justice of the
Peace Chapelle, C-H-A-P-E-L-L-E, in Newmarket

JCT: Newmarket? Newmarket? It's 100 miles away.

with authorization given to enter the residence on the 2nd
of June, 2004, between the hours of 2045 and 2359 hours.
Entry was made without incident at 2202 hours. Mr. Nielsen,
his wife Laurel, and their daughter, Danielle were arrested
for possession of a substance. Officers immediately
observed, located under an end table between Doug and Laurel
Nielsen, excuse me for a second; excuse me, they found
marijuana there. I can tell you it was 20.2 grams that was
located. They also located. Your Honour, an electronic scale
from inside a desk shelf unit, some Zig-Zag rolling papers,
scissors, some undetermined seeds. Although they found some
money I'm not pursuing the Section 5(2) CDSA charge. And
they were all released on a promise to appear on an officer
in charge undertaking. It's about $200 worth of marijuana,
Your Honour, at $10 a gram.
THE COURT: Mr. Nielsen, are those facts correct?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: My wife's name wasn't on the warrant. And
when the police came in I directed them to the marijuana;
they didn't see it anywhere.
THE COURT: All right.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Other than that everything's...
THE COURT: Those facts are accepted?
MR. SMITH: That's fine.
THE COURT: All right. Based upon your plea, sir, and the
facts that are now before the court in full, I find you
guilty of the offence to which you pled guilty.
MR. SMITH: This is Mr. Nielsen's record. Past, convictions
from 1990, 1997; the only one that's really relevant is the
1990 conviction, and it's somewhat dated.
THE COURT: That will be Exhibit 1.
EXHIBIT NUMBER 1: Criminal record of Douglas Nielsen -
produced and marked.
THE COURT: I'm not sure whether it was on the record or not
sir, but I understood that you were agreeing this is indeed,
your record?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
THE COURT: Yes. All right. It's, as indicated, a record with
only two convictions and it's dated; the relevant conviction
is substantially dated, being approximately 16 years ago.
MR. SMITH: I'm only seeking a fine, Your Honour, in the
range of $300 to $350 with some time to pay.

JCT: A fine?

I would also ask for a forfeiture, Your Honour, obviously,
of the scale and the offence related property. I don't think
that Mr. Nielsen would ...
THE COURT: Well, let's be specific.
MR. SMITH: All right.
THE COURT: The offence related property techinically could..
MR. SMITH: The marijuana ...
THE COURT: ...be the house.

JCT: Think about that. Seizing the person's house. Talk
about oppression. Imagine how bloody the "wars" would have
been had they taken the house with the still in the days of
alcohol prohibition. Government hurting so many harmless
people since most growers grow for themselves and sell a bit
to cover costs. And they can seize the home.

MR. SMITH: No. Marijuana, I'm not asking for the money
because I didn't take a plea to the 5(2), the scale inside
the desk shelf unit; the electronic scale. The
paraphernalia, Zig-Zag rolling papers, scissors, seeds, and
basically that's it.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Your Honour, the seeds were found to be
non-narcotic seeds; they were actually my plants for this
year's garden. They were tested and brought back "non-
narcotic seeds".
THE COURT: When you say, "brought back", who's in possession
of them today?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Not me.
THE COURT: All right.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: They're still seized. The scale is a
business scale, Your Honour, it's not your typical marijuana
scale. It, it counts paper, it counts money, and it's for my
home business and, and it was found in the business section
in my house, not with the paraphernalia or anywhere near the
marijuana. And it's not just a cheap scale; it was a very
expensive scale.
MR. SMITH: Your Honour, this is stuff that was apparently
located in the house and there was charges of possession for
the purpose of trafficking.
THE COURT: Well the only thing I - 22 grams...
MR. SMITH: Twenty point ...
THE COURT: ... or 20.2 grams ...
MR. SMITH: Yes.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: If I'm not being charged under the 5(2),
Your Honour, I still (ph) ...
MR. SMITH: I don't really ...
THE COURT: No, I understand that sir, but let me ask you a
different question ...
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Okay.
THE COURT: What scale is on the scale? Do you understand
what I'm asking you?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: No.
THE COURT: What is the lowest amount that scale can measure?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Probably .001; it'll, it'll count - you
could put a dollar bill on it and then put a stack on it and
it'll tell you how much is there.
THE COURT: Are you married, sir?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes I am.
THE COURT: Children?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
THE COURT: How many?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Two.
THE COURT: Living with you?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
THE COURT: Are you working?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes. I actually have a letter here-I'm, I
have the flu and I can't quite focus on the page . . .
THE COURT: That's fine, I'll .....
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: ... but ...
THE COURT: ... read it ...
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: ... it gives you ...
THE COURT: ... if you ...
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: ... a bit of ...
THE COURT: ... wish.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: ... background on me.
THE COURT: Yes.
[...INTERRUPTION RE UNRELATED MATTER
THE COURT: You have spent one day in jail, sir?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
THE COURT: All right. Mr. Smith should see this letter. You
may have a seat for a minute sir.
MR. SMITH: That's fine. Thank you.
THE COURT: All right.
MR. SMITH: Thank you, Your Honour.
THE COURT: With respect to the scale, sir, any remarks you
make from where you are, are simply that, remarks; I take
them into consideration. If you make them from the witness
stand under oath they carry greater weight.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Okay.
THE COURT: If you're concerned about the scale issue, I
would require something from you under oath. In effect, I
would ask you questions about the use of that scale in your
home.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
THE COURT: You should understand that if you take the stand
and give that kind of evidence under oath, Mr. Smith has the
right to cross-examine you and you are subject to that
cross-examination. Do you understand?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes I do.
THE COURT: Do you wish to take ...
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes I do.
THE COURT: ... that procedure?
MR. SMITH: Why don't you just give him the scale back, I'm
not going to ...
THE COURT: Apparently the scale has won the day, sir.
MR. SMITH: I'm not going to spend time on a 4(1), Your
Honour.
THE COURT: All right. The letter that is Exhibit 2,
indicates that you spent time in jail, that there were
onerous terms of release from custody, that they have been
in existence since on or about the time of the offence in
June of 2004, which is approaching two years. And that the
amount involved, as indicated by the Crown was some 20-odd
grams.
EXHIBIT NUMBER 2: Letter - produced and marked.
MR. SMITH: May I just address that, Your Honour? Sorry. The
part of the delay if you will, has been as a result of
applications being brought in the Superior Court and Mr.
NIELSEN and his family are quite, have a right to do that.
But a lot of this delay in getting a date in these, Court of
Appeal, for an appeal has resulted in the two years
essentially with this
THE COURT: Well it would appear, from the letter, that the
applications in the Superior Court were indeed justified
because the bail terms were reviewed and changed, as I read
it.
MR. SMITH: They were essentially reviewed and changed on
consent,

JCT: He never consented.

yes, but I, it was done because, Your Honour, there was this
appeal pending, there was trial date set already that we
agreed to adjourn because this appeal was pending. So I
can't agree, necessarily, with everything that's being said
in that regard.
THE COURT: I understand, but what I'm reading is that there
was justification for the, it wasn't simply a matter of
delaying things arbitrarily on behalf of the accused person;
in fact there was some success with respect to the material
and the activity in the other court.
MR. SMITH: Well, there was some success because it was done
on consent with the greatest of respect, and it was done I
consent - well, wait a minute, Your Honour, you can't ...
THE COURT: If it was done on consent why was the application
necessary?

JCT: Har har har har. Caught him.

MR. SMITH: There was no request, in this court, to do that.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes there was, Your Honour, and it wasn't
agreed to and it was brought forth in front of a J.P. that I
had no power to do so.
MR. SMITH: What bothers me, Your Honour, is that we
discussed this at length in my office for about an hour and
a half with Mr. Vandervet; we were all on the same page and
then there is, these suggestions have come up at the
eleventh hour. I'm going to leave it in Your Honour's
capable hands.
THE COURT: Anything else you wish to say, sir?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: No sir.
THE COURT: All right. With respect to this matter you will
be fined the sum of $150 without surcharge. How much time do
you need to pay that fine?
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: A week.
THE COURT: Two weeks to pay. In addition there will be
forfeiture of the following materials: the marijuana that
was seized, the papers that were seized, the scissors that
were seized, and the seeds that were seized. There will be
no forfeiture of the scale because it is no longer
requested. Thank you.
MR. ORSINI: The other counts, failing to appear against this
accused, as well as the two co-accused can be marked
withdrawn.
MR. SMITH: As should the 5(2) Your Honour ...
THE COURT: Thank you.
MR.SMITH: ... I guess, all of them.
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. SMITH: There is an application, I should give them a
copy, it's an abandonment of their appeal that Ms.
Ornawka's, as I've indicated, is holding that. So if you'd..
COURT CLERK: Mr. Nielsen, you'll wait in the area of the
court office for your paperwork.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Yes.
COURT CLERK: They'll call your name when it's ready.
DOUGLAS NIELSEN: Okay.
MR. SMITH: Thank you.
WHEREUPON THESE PROCEEDINGS WERE CONCLUDED

JCT: Like I always said, the attrition works our way when
doing guerrilla law. It cost the state quite the little
fortune as well costing the Nielsen family quite the much
inconvenience and threat. But if everyone used the "Do-it-
yourself medpot resistance kits available at
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/mpforms.htm
we'd slow them down somewhat. Sure, they have hundreds of
judges to process the victims but only 20 or so at the Court
of Appeal who sit in threes and fives. That's when we
really inconvenience them and make them more willing to
trade. And Doug taking the plea loses nothing since the
other three medpot musketeers are still on appeal with the
same case.



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JCT: I know it's a little backwards but it's constructive to
see how the judge misinterpreted the recent court rulings:

>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 17:06:28 -0700
>From: willwrld@... (Noreen Evers)
>Subject: [MedPot-discuss] N's Judgment Comments appreciated

File No:  32837-1
Registry: Courtenay
In the Provincial Court of British Columbia
Regina
v.
EDITH NOREEN EVERS

REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE HONOURABLE JUDGE DOHERTY

Crown Counsel: P. Riley
Appearing on her own behalf: Edith Evers
Place of Hearing: Courtenay, B.C.
Date of Judgment: March 23, 2006

[1] THE COURT:  The accused, Edith Noreen Evers, is charged
on Indictment number 32837:

Count 1, on or about the 13th of May, 2004, at or near Black
Creek, in the Province of British Columbia, did unlawfully
produce a controlled substance, to wit: Cannabis
(marihuana), contrary to Section 7(1) of the Controlled
Drugs and Substances Act.

Count 2, on or about the 13th of May, 2004, at or near Black
Creek, in the Province of British Columbia, did unlawfully
possess a controlled substance, to wit: Cannabis (marihuana)
in an amount exceeding 3 kilograms, for the purpose of
trafficking, contrary to Section 5(2) of the Controlled
Drugs and Substances Act.

[2] The facts are that the defendant, who lives in a rural
area, called police to complain of a domestic assault. Upon
arrival, police spoke to the defendant's partner, who then
led them to a barn where the defendant had set up a
marihuana grow operation. These charges resulted.

[3] The defendant freely admitted being involved in a for-
profit commercial grow operation. She freely admitted that
she grew marihuana for sale to the local 'Compassion Club.'
She admits too that she is aware that the marihuana she
sells is, in turn, sold to the club members. Ostensibly, in
this manner, the marihuana grown found its way to those who
needed it for medical purposes.

[4] Ms. Evers comes across as a genuinely caring human being
who understands what she is doing is against the current law
of Canada

JCT: I'd bet that's not what she said in arguing the law is
dead. I guess the judge just wasn't listening.

but chooses to do it anyway for what she believes is a
higher purpose; supplying marihuana, as medicine, to those
in need.

[5] Ms. Evers went to a great deal of time, effort and no
doubt expense to persuade the court that the Canada's
marihuana laws could not stand in face of her Charter
arguments.

JCT: They fell before Parker's and Krieger's charter
arguments, why not Noreen's?

She was self represented throughout. Some of her arguments
bordered on the incoherent, some were directly on point. She
proved astonishingly adept at research and provided the
court and the Crown with up-to-date cases.

[6] To give some idea of the position Ms. Evers takes, I
will start with the Charter issue.  Ms. Evers cites many
sections of the Charter but only one is fundamental and
relevant to the underpinning of her argument; s. 11(g),
which reads:
Any person charged with an offence has the right:
(g) not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission
unless, at the time of the act of omission, it constituted
an offence under Canadian or international law or was
criminal according to the general principles of law
recognized by the community of nations

[7] It is from this Charter right that one must examine the
defendant's argument. Ms. Evers spent a great deal of time
trying to persuade me that, currently, no marihuana law
exists in Canada that would put her in legal jeopardy.

JCT: "Section 4(1) is invalid" is really hard to grasp, I'm
sure.

During the course of her submissions, and in order to fully
appreciate the argument this self-represented accused was
making, the court invited Ms. Evers to state in simple terms
the judgment she sought. Here it is: 'The Ontario Court of
Appeal in Hitzig v. Canada (2003) 177 C.C.C. (3d) 449, had
no authority to reinstate an impugned statute, therefore the
medical marihuana laws of Canada are invalid.'

JCT: Not an impugned statute, a successfully impugned
statute, so successfully impugned it was repealed.

[8] In putting forth such a submission, Ms. Evers knows full
well the Supreme Court of Canada declined to interfere with
Hitzig on appeal.

JCT: The judge presumed that Alan Young and Paul Burstein
appealed against the resurrection of the law when we know
they appealed to have the federal ministry of health
supervised by the provincial courts. But filing this off-
target application fooled the judge into thinking they had
appealed the really objectionable point. Or maybe the Crown
fooled the judge.

[9] Ms. Evers was kind enough to provide the court and the
Crown with the cases of Kubby v. Regina.

JCT: Noreen introduced the Kubby case that hurt her?

These judgments from a chambers judge; Kubby v. Regina
(2005) B.C.S.C. 641, and on appeal; Kubby v. Her Majesty the
Queen (2005) B.C.C.A. 640, are binding authority on me, no
matter how much Ms. Evers may wish otherwise.

JCT: So Noreen presented case law to defeat her case?

[10] In the British Columbia Court of Appeal, Madam Justice
Rowles, speaking for a unanimous court, said at paragraphs
39 and 40:

In Parker, the Ontario Court of Appeal declared s. 4(1) of
the CDS Act to be invalid, but that declaration was
suspended for one year. The MMA Regs came into force within
the year, thereby addressing the constitutional deficiency
in s. 4(1) identified in Parker.

JCT: Har har har har. Everyone admits the MMAR didn't work
but this judge doesn't know.

In Hitzig, the Ontario Court of Appeal determined that
certain provisions in the MMA Regs were constitutionally
flawed, but the remedy granted was a declaration of
invalidity respecting those provisions only. The balance of
the MMA Regs and s. 4(1) of the CDS Act were not affected.
Appellate courts are bound by the decisions of the Supreme
Court of Canada. Malmo-Levine and Clay held that it is
within Parliament's legislative jurisdiction to criminalize
the possession of marihuana should it choose to do so.

JCT: And she notes Malmo-Levine to mean "that it is within
Parliament's legislative jurisdiction to criminalize the
possession of marihuana should it choose to do so" but
there's no mention whether it did or did not since the
courts struck down the law.

Contrary to the appellant's submissions, the MMA Regs must
be taken to have effectively addressed the constitutional
deficiencies in relation to s. 4(1) of the CDS Act with
respect to the blanket prohibition against the possession of
marihuana.

JCT: The MMAR must be taken to have worked even though they
were ruled to have not worked. Typical brilliant legal
thinking, it just happens to be wrong. Har har har har. I
always thought Parliaments House of Comics provide great
humor but the courts of "justice" have their share of jokes
available too. If there weren't so many victims.

At this point, the MMA Regs and s. 4(1) of the CDS Act
constitute valid legislation.

JCT: Har har har har. Two years to late but not to a judge
who was ignorant that it had even died. Remember, Judge
Doberty has his share of bogus convictions during the two
years the law was dead and he did know.

That ends the matter as far as this court is concerned and
ends the matter as far as any argument to the contrary that
the defendant may advance on this point of law.

JCT: The incompetence of lawyers is a source of never-ending
amusement. Someday, someone's got to write a book. So many
judges reputations in the dump.

[11] Ms. Evers did her own research. She provided much case
law, most of which she understands even if she disagrees
with the conclusions reached by trial and appellate judges.
She knows full well that as a trial judge, I am bound by the
British Columbia Court of Appeal's pronouncement on these
issues.

JCT: Free to ignore the Supreme Court of Canada Krieger
decision?

Since there is no basis upon which I could conclude that the
marihuana laws or the underlying legislation is
unconstitutional based on the arguments before me,
presumably Ms. Evers simply wants to use this case as a
stepping stone.

[12] Even should I have been so inclined, based on the
evidence that I had before me in this case, I could not draw
the conclusion Ms. Evers seeks to have me draw.

JCT: Maybe he didn't read Krieger?

The medical marihuana provisions, the implementation of
which may well have gotten off to a rocky start, seem
perfectly adequate and functional at the moment.

JCT: Two years after the law died?

Indeed, Ms. Evers' main witness on this point confirmed as
much in his evidence. Therefore, there is neither a factual
nor legal underpinning to support the defendant's Charter
arguments.

[13] The division of powers argument was definitively dealt
with in Malmo-Levine v. The Queen; Attorney General of
Ontario et al, (2003) 179 C.C.C. (3d) 417.  The Supreme
Court of Canada determined that the prohibition of
possession of marihuana is still a valid exercise of federal
criminal law power.

JCT: No, he earlier got it. Now he's perverted it wrong. He
ad properly said "Malmo-Levine and Clay held that it is
within Parliament's legislative jurisdiction to criminalize
the possession of marihuana should it choose to do so," not
that it had determined it was still valid, only that it
could make it valid. Neat to see judges contradicting
themselves in the same document. He knew the truth and then
perverted it.

[14] The defendant fails on the Charter argument. The
factual case was admitted at the outset of trial.
Convictions will be entered on both counts.

JCT: Another dirty deed by the Doherty clan of judges.


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