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TURMEL: Ryan/Kline can't take bet on unpayability of usury   Message List  
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JCT: The pseudo-socred lunatic who changes the subject of
all my USENET posts to call me "piss boy" shot off his mouth
and I him to put up or shut up since it challenges my claim
to my first Nobel Prize in Economics for proving you can't
pay off a death-gamble without someone having to pay a
little death. If you're alone on your island, your mortgage
has no possible pay-off schedule. William Ryan aka Silas
Kline wore down a student of mine, Marc Gauvin, in a long
debate (after a while, beating an gnurd up gets to be
less fun) but I don't argue. I stake out the lie and watch
my opponent back down.

It's been a week since I published:

>SK: 3. The video repeats the falsehood that interest on
loans cannot be paid because the banks create only the
principal on loans, not the interest, so for that reason
debt must compound exponentially. We've had lengthy
conversations on this list refuting that lie. Silas

>JCT: Here the video is right and Ryan/Kline's wrong again.
Marc Gauvin defeated Kline in this debate but in esoteric
analysis most others couldn't or couldn't be bothered to
follow. But I can defeat you, as I've defeated you as Bill
Ryan in other debates, in terms most others do understand.
"Put your money where your mouth is."

>You said a $1000 loan amortized at 10% could be paid off if
we're the only two on the island. I bet US$100 you can't
provide a simple quarterly payment schedule without recourse
to outside money.
>Amortization is a neat word. Amoral means no morals. Amort
means no death. Amortizing your "mort-gage" means lessening
your death-gamble.
>I will do anything necessary to repay my debt so on Jan 1
my cash account goes up $1000 and my IOU account goes up
$1000. Go ahead and explain how I'll get the wherewithal to
make my Apr 1, Jul 1, Oct 1 and Jan 1 payments.
>And if anyone else wants to bet on Ryan/Kline coming up
with a way to survive the "mort-gage" death-gamble, there's
another $100 to the first one who'll bet on Ryan against The
Engineer. Har har har har.
>Anyone want to bet on Ryan? Har har har har. This is the
guy who has become so demented by his failure to be able to
take my taunting bets that he has been defacing every one of
my USENET posts with his piss-possessed graffiti responses
for the past year. No one in sci.engineering and
sci.economics or can.politics will fail to fondly remember
piss-post Ryan. Not.

JCT: One week later, Bill Ryan / Silas Kline's only response
was to my challenge:

>Discussion subject changed to "The Piss Boy" by
w_b_r...@...
Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-turmel, alt.conspiracy
From: w_b_r...@...
Date: 4 Apr 2007 06:29:48 -0700

JCT: But no schedule explaining how I can get completely out
of debt in 4 payments by selling my work for the interest.
We're waiting. Come on. I borrow 100 at 10%. Lets' say you've got me
convinced the usury can be paid if I'm all alone on my
island with my banker. Let's go over each payment and see
where the money goes. Explain how you don't get to foreclose
on me. I say the usurer gets to foreclose on the debt-slave.

Of course, interest on cows, that's different.

But Ryan / Kline wants to be an apologist for usury,
contradicting my warnings to humanity there is an element of
death inherent in the death-gamble contract that cannot be
avoided no matter the bankster-apologist says it can. He's
luring you into a death-gamble trap. And my bet proves he
can show you no escape from your one-man death-gamble game.

Bill Ryan, slowing down engineering Heaven, all the way.
But who can never take the bet, which is why posterity will
note as his only reply, I'd bet, changing the subject to
"The Piss Boy" by w_b_ryan@...

But no bet on the brainy stuff.


--
Abolitionist Debt Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer"
Turmel for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution
C6 to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel USENET blog: alt.fan.john-turmel



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