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TURMEL: Green leader May blowing once-in-4-year chance?   Message List  
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JCT: I've been urging Elizabeth May, new leader of the Green
Party of Canada, to run for Mayor of Ottawa on a platform of
LETS social currency to fund municipal projects.

>Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:00:41 -0700 (PDT)
>From: John Turmel <johnturmel@...>
>Subject: Turmel: Green Party slate for Ontario Municipal
elections?
>To: emay@...

JCT: There exists an opportunity for you to head a slate of
candidates in the upcoming Ontario municipal elections. Your
party's LETS program offers answers to municipal
underfunding problems as surely as provincial underfunding
and federal underfunding problems. I know several people
running in Ontario on Timebank platforms and it offers a
free (no cash expense) opportunity for Greens all over the
province to have an impact.

If you miss this wonderful municipal chance to score some
points in 1/3 of Canada, I'll certainly question your
decision when we run against each other in the Montreal
byelection. Of course, I won't need to run if we're on the
same team. Unfortunately, in 1985, I was ejected from the
Green Party of Canada by the 8-member Ontario Branch
executive, no hearing, no chance to defend myself (has
anything changed?), so that might have to be fixed before
collaboration is possible.

Regardless, there are only 4 weeks left to organize a
provincial Green slate. Don't count on financially-
incompetent Frank DeJong to get anything done. But you
should easily be able to field a very big team in almost no
time all across much of the province. I know I could. I
fielded 80 Abolitionist candidates in the 1993 election, 1
more than the Greens, in 3 weeks of phoning. This is a
wonderful chance for you to make an unorthodox impact. I
would if I could.

This is one great chance to further Millennium Declaration
Resolution C6 to Governments for a time-based social
currency. Engineering the CANLETS rocket funding engine will
power you to Prime Minister of Canada as engineering the
UNILETS rocket funding engine will power me to Prime
Minister of Eden.

Could you send me your mailing address so I can send you a
copy of the Turmel DVD Documentary.
---

>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
>From: John Turmel <johnturmel@...>
>Subject: Turmel: No Green Party slate for Ontario Municipal
elections?
>To: emay@...

JCT: I wrote to you a couple of weeks ago proposing you use
the Ontario Municipal elections to build up the Green Party
and a network of timebanks across the province whether Green
candidates are elected or not.

You've lost 2 weeks of organising time so it looks like
you're going to be another do-nothing go-nowhere all-talk
no-action leader for a so-far ineffectual party.

I was hoping you would be different but, like Jim will never
live down his failure to use all his resources, it looks
like you're going to be destined for the "doesn't practice
what you preach" style of leadership.

Sad. You sounded so promising and to flub your first grand
election opportunity. Maybe I can find someone to run for
Mayor of Ottawa and mention how you did not. Sad.

Can't wait until we cross words in some byelection.
---

>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:23:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: johnturmel@... (John Turmel)
>Subject: Turmel: Just lead, others will follow
>To: emay@...

>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:11:22 -0400
>From: Elizabeth May <emay@...>
>Subject: Re: Turmel: No Green Party slate for Ontario
Municipal elections?
>To: John Turmel <johnturmel@...>

EM: I have been working non-stop since I was elected leader,
including in encouraging municipal candidates. I have at
this point, no office in the GP HQ, no staff support and no
resources to deploy. So please do not judge the first two
weeks so harshly. Elizabeth

JCT: As I should have pointed out, this is an opportunity
that won't come again for another 4 years. You've got an
average 20 members in each riding and could easily find them
all a slot at all municipal levels.

It would be a bold stroke, audacious and would be a chance
to recruit not only new members for political reasons but
new members because yours is the only party offering
Canada's largest functioning pan-Canadian LETS. And it would
be as easy as "leading" the way. Run for mayor. I haven't
yet registered, two weeks left, alone in Brantford. To
spread the Good News of a world the poor can afford.

Your programmers could deliver a Party LETS site ready to
accept new log-on members in time for Nomination date, a
site to log on, join, get a Green credit line, 1 Greenyear,
perhaps, 2000 hours, $24,000 Canadian credit line for all,
to start?

All you have to do is lead in running these free municipal
elections for 1/3 of Canada's population and it will give
many of your members reason to join in your assault by
chasing a pay-check in their community with you.

If I were still a Green, I know what I'd like you to do as
our world gets scarier and scarier and helping install
something that's been labelled an "anti-poverty" "lifeboat"
can only be a meritorious effort.

So, yes, this is your one and only greatest electoral
opportunity to score points and recruit members if you move
fast and it won't cut it to explain:

"I have been working non-stop since I was elected leader,
including in encouraging municipal candidates. I have at
this point, no office in the GP HQ, no staff support and no
resources to deploy.

JCT: I'd have been working on the first, let alone the one
and only greatest, electoral opportunity to score points and
recruit members if I moved fast enough. What have you been
working on that is of more importance than that.

Using the wrong golf club is tactical mistake, you'll
eventually get to the hole. A strategic mistake is not
aiming at the hole! So far, you're half-way to a strategic
error. You can still have a major impact if you lead.

P.S. In the 1997 Ottawa West federal general election, the
NDP candidate Wendy Byrne, Natural Law and even Marxist-
Leninist candidates joined the Abolitionist and the Green to
sign my petition for a Canada LETS. Do you know any other
ultra-capitalist gamblers who get invited to Marxist-
Leninist Party functions? Canada Greendollars, LETS
Timedollars, can bring all these disparate parties into the
fold.

Just have a Green Party Timebank site operating by election
day and you'll have an impact whose time has come. Do not go
for the brass ring on this round and it's a strategic
mistake a la Jim you'll never live down.

Just run. And fund things with Greendollars. Believe me,
Ottawa voters have heard of Greendollars before, only not
from someone who hasn't been smeared by the media. Yet.

Just lead. Others will follow.
---

>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:44:02 -0400 (EDT)
>From: turmel@... (John Turmel)
>Subject: Turmel: Municipal LETS use
>To: emay@...

>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:45:17 -0400
>To: John Turmel <johnturmel@...>
>From: Elizabeth May <emay@...>
>Subject: Re: Turmel: Just lead, others will follow

Can you set out for me clearly the link between LETS and
municipal electoral strategies? I think of LETS as an
economic and social alternative, not necessarily a municipal
approach. Thanks (and please excuse brevity) Elizabeth

JCT: From
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pomlizas.htm

A mayor faced with rising costs and shrinking revenues,
To study any proposition, he would not refuse.
"So many think the job of being mayor is such a snap,
But the decisions that I'm faced with are an ugly trap.

With tools, materials and trades that cover total range,
Yet one ingredient is lacking, money to exchange.
If snowstorm hits the city and there are no funds to pay,
What does my council have to do to clear the snow away?

We pledge a million dollar bond to banks to get the cash,
With which we pay the skillful men who clear snow in a flash.
The merchants gladly take the funds for soon they have to pay,
The taxes for the snow removal that was done that day.

But though a million principle was spent, we must request,
That citizens be taxed for principle and interest.
To budget who gets scarce resources isn't ever fun,
But interest on city's debt is always number one.

Whatever rate the bankers set is due amount I pay,
Unhappily, which projects live or die's my only say.
But if it's true Greendollars serve as well as Locals tell:
Why shouldn't government be one to try it out as well?

When another snowstorm hits without the funds to pay,
We'll test to see if LETS Greendollars are a better way.
This time we pledge the million bond to Treasury instead,
And see if use of Green will get us very much ahead.

The merchant should accept Greendollars as another way,
His taxes needed for the snow removal, he can pay.
Again we'll spend a million but the tax to be assessed,
Including only principle without the interest.

Before the budget allocations are completely spent,
Could LETS Greendollars help reverse project abandonment?
If council members for their tax took part of pay in Green,
We'd have some cash left over which is something rarely seen.

If civil service took some Green at least for taxes due,
The extra cash would guarantee that extra jobs ensue.
We'd offer Green to fix a pothole to a company,
Wishing to pay their tax with unemployed capacity.

With Green we'd pay for road repairs and all would gladly take,
Greendollars from the working men so payment all could make;
And we could build our hospitals and all would take as pay,
Greendollars to buy medicine and service they purvey.

Today, in our society, where money clearly lacks,
Who could refuse some paper anyone may use for tax?
Greendollar paychecks could be earned by all desiring work,
The opportunity to pull their weight so few would shirk.

With Green the unemployed around the world will save the day,
Without it they will idly sit and die their lives away.
And best of all we'd have the Green to save environment,
A way to pay to save our lives and make us affluent.

The only question left is how the tax should be assessed,
For goods and services? A simple formula to test.
For services, we'd levy tax at end of every year.
For assets, tax to pay depreciation. It's so clear.

The government that spent the most and had the highest tax,
Would be the government providing citizens the max.

JCT: This is nice but it's the use of Greendollars by the
party that really can draw members in.
Free banquets, computers, furniture, automobiles, it's all
possible. See: http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/txcrdts.htm

Finally, if you unsuspended my membership, the Greendollar
Engineer would be willing oversee your party's LETS for your
members. I'd re-join in an instant for a LETS account. You
have the resources to do it. It'll bring massive new
membership and the resources to do it.

Why not have a 3-way phone call with me and your
programmer? If you start giving your party's members LETS
time-trading accounts that are already usable in 58
countries, other countries' Green parties will start to
practice what they now preach and you'll have an
international trading network in no time.

But first focus on this once in 4 years municipal chance to
make news. Two weeks to get organized yet all it takes is
for you to lead the charge and invite your members to follow
in contesting thousands of supplementary pay-checks.

This is really your biggest ever challenge and I'm glad I'm
still able to try to "kick" you in the right direction.
There's no way to be subtle. If you miss such a wonderful
opportunity, there's no excuse. If you miss the chance to
consolidate all Canada's political support for LETS social
currency behind you and other Greens overseas, there's no
excuse.

Remember, all I want is cops out of "gambling, sex, drugs
and rock&roll" and interest-free banking to call that
heaven and retire.

I'm praying you are the ram you make yourself out to be. I'd
hate to be calling you a loser like Jim on your first
electoral pot possible.
---

>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 05:51:40 -0400 (EDT)
>From: turmel@... (John Turmel)
>Subject: Turmel: Losers wanting "no waves" aren't friends
>To: emay@...

>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:04:05 -0400
>From: emay@... (Elizabeth May)
>Subject: Re: Turmel: Municipal LETS use
>To: turmel@...

EM: Hi John, Can you explain the bit about "unsuspending
your membership"??

JCT: http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/tordoll2.htm has a bit
about how six members of
the Ontario Branch Executive, including the leader, voted to
expel me from the federal party "on the grounds that he is
using the Green party to "push his own particular economic
theories (LETS)." Propounding one's own ideas used to be
verboten. Perhaps the party archives detail the party's one
great expulsion? Regardless, I wouldn't rejoin until the
party practiced the LETS they preached and permitted members
their own opinions."

EM: I see the link now. The only problem is that the
municipal candidates running Green that I have asked so far,
don't want the federal leader making waves in municipal
campaigns...

JCT: Why not? Other than the constant efforts by saboteurs
to keep your party small and ineffectual, why would having
the federal leader making waves not be good for the party?
Especially when it's the last chance to do so before having
to keep quiet for the next 3 years!

St. Paul said to do "according to what you have, not
according to what you have not." Sad to think the party
remains filled with such perpetual losers. They're not going
to win municipally without something spectacular taking
place and yet they're happy to keep it that way? Think about
what kind of people would prefer you keep doing nothing
different to win.

EM: Is there something you can see me doing unilaterally....
or through our web site? Elizabeth

JCT: Run as mayor of Ottawa heading a team of aldermanic
candidates to bring social currency to the municipal scene.
A Green Team would shake up the establishment. And
demonstrate what you'd do on the national scene by offering
it municipally too. All it takes to run is to fill out one
form. And all candidates running on your team benefit by
your exposure. I did get over 4000 votes in Ottawa twice and
I'd bet they'd vote for you when they hear of LETS.

But best of all, run a party LETS for your members. That
would make it worth joining just for the bartering
possibilities. Have very many new members signed up since
your election? Probably not.

This is a chance to use free electoral press before 1/3 of
Canadian electorate to build up your membership database by
offering Greendollar accounts. You could start by focusing
on the accommodations section of the LETS noticeboard by
finding and listing every spare room that every Green member
can offer so your members can barter accommodations and
never need pay for motels in Canadian cities again. And it
will jump-start international trading between Green Parties
in other lands, again, with accommodations as the first most
useful trading commodity.

Send your postal address and I'll mail you the Turmel DVD.
And how about a 3-way call with your party programmer so he
can attest how simply one of the online LETS programs can be
installed on your database. Call me and I'll 3-way him/her.

Elizabeth, you were elected to lead, not to follow. Use your
resources to operate a LETS and you'll have more hard-wired
members on your database by the next election than all the
other parties combined.

You know my international aspirations for an international
Green party movement. If you lead, you'll never need worry
about your leadership even with a political superstar like
me on your team. I'll be honored to follow someone leading
in the same direction I want to go.
---

JCT: There is now only 1 week left for Ms. May to mobilize
her forces to contest Ontario's thousands of municipal
contests, her right in the national capital.

And of course, she is surrounded by advisers telling her
it's better to do nothing.

I find it kind of neat that the leader of such a potential
power party is put on the spot right at the start of her
administration. Blowing this chance will relegate her to the
political sidelines like all previous do-nothing leaders. Of
course, Ms. May can alibi she was just following advice.

What Canada really needs, another leader who is a good
follower. Sad to think she'll be committing such a
strategically loser move. What else would be new from a
party whose advisers are experts the benefits of doing
nothing.

And of course, I'd find it extremely hard to ever again
offer to follow a leader who won't lead, a leader who's an
expert on following. It's all going to be clear in one week
if Green leader May blowing once-in-4-year chance?



--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics



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