>TheStar.com
>Mon. Aug. 21, 2006.
>Special Report: Canada's war
>Canadians ambush Taliban
>Scores of insurgents die in `deliberate operation' by NATO

JCT: Scores of insurgents who had nothing to do wit 911 die.

Major victory for battle group newly arrived from Petawawa
Aug. 21, 2006. 05:26 AM
TERRY PEDWELL
CANADIAN PRESS

JCT: Keep in mind that for those of us who don't believe the
Taliban or Osama had the power to stand down the US Air
Force, only the US Administration could, nor that they
demolished 3 skyscrapers with 2 planeloads of aviation fuel,
only the US Secret services could, the Taliban and Osama
therefore stand not guilty of the charges. So Canada has
joined the invading Amerikans in fighting the Afghan people
who are innocent of 911. But once our boys start dying, it
no longer matters to most that this is Canada's first War
Crime ever:

TP: KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN - Scores of Taliban fighters have
been killed by Canadian and Afghan forces in a weekend of
fierce fighting in Afghanistan's volatile south. The
insurgents died in rolling battles that began late Saturday
and continued into yesterday in Panjwaii, about 30
kilometres west of Kandahar. "So far, we've recovered the
bodies of 72 Taliban," Panjwaii police chief Neyaz Mohammad
Sarhadi said last night. Four Afghan policemen also died in
the fighting, he said.

JCT: Lots of Taliban funerals for the millions of innocent
angry relatives to attend and I have no doubt they will
return the favor as soon as they get the chance. We've got
to get our boys out of there, apologize for believing a liar
like Bush, and then make amends. Though I can't see a Bush
brown-noser like Harper standing up for truth like an
honorable man.

TP: It was the first major assault involving Canadian battle
group soldiers, mainly from CFB Petawawa in eastern Ontario,
since they arrived in Kandahar during the past couple of
weeks.

JCT: It sounds like the media are crowing about the blood
Canada has drawn in our support of Bush's war crime. Canada
has never participated in such a war crime before and
ballyhooing our team killing the other team isn't helping.

TP: "It was an extremely big blow (to the Taliban's) combat
effectiveness," said Lt.-Col. Omer Lavoie who, just three
hours before the assault began, had taken over as Canada's
battle group commander in Kandahar.

JCT: Pure hype. Of the millions of Afghan guerrillas who
beat Russia, 72 isn't what I'd call an "extremely big blow."
Especially since most of them were probably innocent
civilians anyway found too near their kitchen knives and
labelled "belligerent.'

TP: It was the most significant victory for NATO since it
took over control of international forces in southern
Afghanistan July 31, killing nearly 10 per cent of the
estimated number of Taliban insurgents believed to be in the
south.

JCT: If 72 out of millions of angry innocent kin-folk is
their "most significant victory" so far, we've got a really
long way to go.

TP: "Ten per cent losses on the enemy insurgent side is a
very significant loss of their ability to conduct
operations," Lavoie said. "It should show the Canadian
public the high degree of training that Canadian soldiers
have."

JCT: Canadians have invader talents too?

TP: There were no casualties among the Canadians, members of
NATO's International Security Assistance Force, or ISAF.
Bodies and body parts were found scattered throughout the
area following the fighting, which was part of a "deliberate
operation," NATO said in a statement. "Afghan National
Security Forces and ISAF inflicted heavy casualties against
Taliban fighters in Kandahar's Panjwaii district," the
statement said.

JCT: Bet they've made the Taliban mad enough to keep hitting
us even harder. Lots more funerals for Harper to ignore.

TP: It was "a deliberate operation to extend security along
southern Afghanistan's Highway 1 corridor."

JCT: Highway 1 isn't secure? Sounds like we're invaders
surrounded by teeming masses. Hey, we are!

TP: The Afghan and Canadian forces moved into position
around three known Taliban locations, making their presence
known and hoping for a reaction, Lavoie said. When the
Taliban moved on them, the Canadians and Afghan security
forces were ready, he said. "We were able to engage the
enemy through fire and manoeuvre without ever having to have
ourselves backed into a corner," he said. Lavoie denied that
the operation was launched as payback for the Aug. 3 Taliban
attack against Canadians in Panjwaii, in which four soldiers
were killed and 10 others injured. "We don't keep a score
card," Lavoie said.

JCT: I bet they do. And they're aiming at a lot more invader
corpses the more Afghan corpses we create. Canadian invader
corpses.

TP: "And you certainly don't win counter-insurgency
operations through any sort of body count or sort of tally,
" he added. Sarhadi said the insurgents were killed when
they launched the attack. Bodies of militants were found in
three locations, scattered through orchards alongside their
weapons.

JCT: But 9 battles out of 10, it's just Captain Canuck
against a booby-trap or ambush. So we drew them into a trap
where we can use our cannons once. If they were smart,
they've have us chasing them all over their mountains with
our cannons and picking us off all the time. I'd bet we
don't have many more opportunities to trap them in front of
cannons again.

TP: NATO's ground forces used artillery and air strikes to
subdue the enemy fighters. There were no reports of civilian
casualties. Sources said impoverished farmers in the area
were told by Taliban insurgents to leave before the fighting
began.

JCT: I bet they won't try any more big operations when
continual sniping by millions against thousands seems the
best way.

TP: In an unusual move, NATO described the fighting as a
Taliban defeat. "The latest engagement in which the
insurgents have been defeated is another clear demonstration
that ISAF, working with Afghan National Security Forces, is
resolutely committed to bringing security to the areas of
Afghanistan that most need it," the statement said.

JCT: A battle has been won! A battle has been won! A battle
has been won! Sure. How goes the war?

TP: A purported Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousaf Ahmadi,
claimed the insurgents killed "scores" of police and damaged
10 police vehicles before a NATO air strike. Ahmadi often
contacts journalists to claim attacks for the Taliban, but
his exact ties to the militia's leadership are unclear.

The fighting came shortly after four American soldiers were
killed on Saturday in two clashes with Taliban fighters in
Kunar province in the east, and in Oruzgan in the south.
In the southern province of Helmand yesterday, a separate
clash with insurgents left one British soldier dead and
three others wounded, Britain's defence ministry said.
The death brought to 20 the number of British soldiers
killed since they deployed to Afghanistan in November 2001.
Militants also ambushed a police patrol in the western
province of Farah, sparking a gun battle that left one
officer and two attackers dead, a regional official said.
The attack on the highway police patrol in Bakwa district
also injured six officers and three attackers, said Ghulam
Dastagir Azad, the governor of neighbouring Nimroz province.

JCT: That the way to do it. With millions of citizens all
legally possessing assault rifles, no need to clump together
into a mass they can shoot cannons at. Better to just keep
sniping, sniping, sniping. A couple of thousand Captain
Canucks against millions of snipers and we're out there on
attack making them mad?

TP: Afghanistan is going through a bloody period of
violence, the worst since the fall of the Taliban in 2001.
Much of the fighting has been concentrated in the south.
Canada has roughly 2,200 soldiers working under the NATO
umbrella in the Kandahar region. Twenty-six Canadian
soldiers and one diplomat have been killed since Canada
deployed to Afghanistan in early 2002. Of those, 19 have
died during the past six months.

JCT: And a lot more coming up now that we've done so well at
killing ambushing the innocent mountain guerrillas. Of
course, I say they are innocent of 911. That's not the media
spin:

>NATO chief calls Afghanistan a 'just war'
>London Free Press, Canada - 9 Aug 2006
>By TERRY PEDWELL, CP. ...

>Canada, NATO owe Afghans in 'just war'
>Hamilton Spectator, Canada - 9 Aug 2006
>By Terry Pedwell. ...

>'Stay the course'
>Toronto Sun, Canada - 9 Aug 2006
>By TERRY PEDWELL, THE CANADIAN PRESS. ...

JCT: The messages is always the same. Stay the course even
if you don't know what the course is.

>By Terry Pedwell
The Canadian Press
KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN (Aug 9, 2006)

TP: The commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan is pleading
with Canada to stay the course in Afghanistan despite
suffering its heaviest losses so far in the war-torn
country.

JCT: What course? What is Canada's goal? Democracy in 2020?
Why Afghanistan and not one of a hundred other nations
without democracy? Why Afghanistan right now?

TP: Canada and other NATO countries owe Afghans a debt of
gratitude for helping to topple the former Soviet Union,
said Lieutenant-General David Richards, a British general in
charge of NATO forces in Afghanistan.

JCT: By invading and killing them?

TP: "I bitterly regret the loss of life," Richards said
yesterday as the last of five Canadian soldiers killed in
southern Afghanistan last week was being returned home. "But
I believe that ... if ever there was a 'just war,' this is
it."

JCT: This is a just war? This is the most unjust war in
Canadian history. It's our first war crime. General Richards
should be our first war crime trial. Then again, he could
plead ignorance, even stupidity.

TP: Four Canadians were killed in attacks by Taliban
insurgents last Thursday and a fifth died in a traffic
accident Saturday while travelling with a military resupply
convoy. Another 13 Canadian soldiers were injured, some
seriously. Four British soldiers have also died since NATO
took command of international forces in southern Afghanistan
on July 31. In all, two dozen Canadian soldiers and one
diplomat have been killed since Canada entered Afghanistan
in early 2002.

"I think those soldiers have died for as good a cause as I
can think of," said Richards.

JCT: Twice invader General Richards has said it's a good
cause without once detailing what that good cause is.

TP: "And maybe we just need to stay the course now and hang
on in there."

JCT: It's not him getting shot at, just his men.

TP: Recent polls in Canada indicated Afghanistan has become
a contentious issue. A survey last month by Strategic
Counsel suggested 56 per cent of Canadians opposed the
military mission in Kandahar, up 15 percentage points from
March. And a report on the weekend said Prime Minister
Stephen Harper's office received 1,453 letters and e-mails
in May about the deployment to Afghanistan, two-thirds of
them calling on the government to get the troops home.

On a visit to soldiers at Kandahar Air Field, Richards
raised a widely held argument that the Soviet Union may not
have collapsed in 1991 had it not been forced to withdraw
from Afghanistan in 1989.

JCT: And now we get to take on the guys who beat Russia.

TP: "The people of this country actually fought and led to
the collapse of the Soviet Union, emancipating millions and
millions of people throughout the old Soviet bloc," Richards
said. "Just ponder that and think: do we owe them
something?"

JCT: An invasion and killing of thousands of their
relatives?

TP: "Does not the world owe them something, because without
Afghanistan -- despite the pressure applied to the Soviet
Union -- there could be no certainty that the Soviet Union
would have collapsed in the way it did."

JCT: And we repay them with invasion why?

TP: On Dec. 24, 1979, the Soviet Union sent troops to crush
an uprising in Afghanistan, install a pro-Moscow government
and support the new government.
JCT: Since then now, United States sent troops to crush the
Afghan government, install a pro-Washington government and
support the new government.

TP: For more than nine years, mujahedeen rebels -- including
Osama bin Laden -- fought the Soviet occupation, with
financial backing from the Cold War-era CIA, Pakistan and
Saudi Arabia.

JCT: And for more than four years, mujahedeen rebels --
including Osama bin Laden -- fought the Amerikan occupation,
with financial backing from their own sources.

TP: By 1989, the Soviets were forced to withdraw after
massive losses and under pressure from the long-suffering
Soviet public. Some historians believe that the defeat in
Afghanistan, in part, led to the downfall of the Soviet
Union.

JCT: But we expect te Amerikans will not be forced to
withdraw after massive losses and under pressure from the
long-suffering Amerikan public because they tricked Canada's
Parliament into sending Canadian kids to do the dying.

TP: But after the departure of the Soviets, the U.S.
government and others cut off funding to the Afghan
jihadists, leaving the country open to a full-scale civil
war. The fighting ended only after the extremist Taliban
movement came to power by successfully attacking local
warlords. "The international community dumped on
Afghanistan," said Richards, a self-professed lifelong
military historian. "They left them to themselves." The
West, Richards suggested, also left itself open to attack by
ignoring Afghanistan.

Bin Laden, who had set up militia training camps during the
Soviet occupation, found safe haven in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime. His al-Qaeda organization had groups of
terrorists ready to strike at the West. And along came the
disastrous attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. "OK, it was New York
and Washington that suffered dreadfully" when terrorists
trained by bin Laden attacked the World Trade Center and
the Pentagon, said Richards. "(But) it could have been
Ottawa. It could have been Toronto."

JCT: So General Richards is a dupe who believes Bin Laden
did 911. I've already explained how Bin Laden and the
Taliban couldn't have called off the US Air Force
protection nor raze 3 sky-scrapers with 2 planeloads of
gasoline. And his good reason for Canucks staying the course
in Arab mountains is because they did 911!

TP: Within months after 9/11, a U.S.-led coalition entered
Afghanistan to support local forces in driving the Taliban
from power.

JCT: What local forces? It was an out and out invasion to
set up their quisling Karzai and sucker Canadians into
fighting off the innocent invadees.

TP: Canada now has more than 2,000 troops in southern
Afghanistan to help the Afghan government fight Taliban
insurgents. "We can't risk the Taliban coming back in with
Osama bin Laden ... because it will soon rebound on your
children, my children, us, wherever we live," Richards said.

JCT: They never bothered Canada until we attacked them for
911 which they did not do.

TP: "I think that's one hell of a good reason" for the
international community to be in Afghanistan, he said.

JCT: Their beating Russia is one hell of a good reason for
us to retreat.

Some comments on my last 4 more Canuck patsies article:

>Article #4062 (4064 is last):
>From: doug.jones@... (Drink Urine)
>Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-turmel,can.politics,can.legal,
>alt.drugs,sci.econ,sci.engr,alt.conspiracy
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: 4 more Canuck patsies for US Afghan
>pipeline invasion
>Date: 5 Aug 2006 13:53:51 GMT

>JCT: The news is full of Canuck casualties in our war in
>Afghanistan for what the Taliban had done to Canada. Hey?
>What did the Taliban ever do to Canada?

DJ: What did Hitler ever do to Canada? We should have just
left him alone and given him what he wanted then we could
have lived in eternal peace.

JCT: The standard reasoning for pre-emptive war. Why do you
say Afghanistan should be the first "Hitler-like" situation
to be dealt with? Why not China? Somalia?

DJ: Germany had oil pipelines too and that's why we fought a
war of agression against them.

JCT: Really?

DJ: It had nothing to do with anything else and anyone who
says different is a liar.

JCT: There are alleged reasons for World War II though I
think yours is silly.

>Article #4063 (4064 is last):
>From: henry355482@... (Henry Bonner)
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: 4 more Canuck patsies for US Afghan
>pipeline invasion
>Date: 5 Aug 2006 13:56:01 GMT

>What did the Taliban ever do to Canada?

HB: Wow John, you're smart! I bet that if you ever ran for
political office, everyone would vote for a guy like you!
You should try it some day.

JCT: And since I did try it and every one didn't vote for
me, then I must wrong, I'm not smart, and there is a good
reason for Canada going after the Taliban. Okay. I'd like to
hear why from our "Oh Henry, not so smart."

>Article #4064 (4064 is last):
>From: w_b_ryan@...
>Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-turmel,alt.drugs,alt.conspiracy
>Subject: He drinks his own piss!
>Date: 5 Aug 2006 10:06:16 -0700

JCT: And the standard response from pseudo-Socred William B.
Ryan, someone I beat so badly in debate that his only
recourse it to trace down everyone of my posts with this.
Anyone think this reaction is because he won our debates?
Har har har har.


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