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TURMEL: Russell Barth can't get timeline right?   Message List  
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>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:01:17 +0000
>From: paquettemarc@... (Marc Paquette)
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: Russell Barth on Marijuana
>To: MedPot-discuss@yahoogroups.com

MP: Hi John, Terry and Friends :) For those who weren't
part of these court debates, this whole matter is pretty
complicated to understand for the average person John.

JCT: We don't need people who can't keep up with this
complicated matter doing the talking in public, especially
when they are wrong and it misleads. Russell Barth champions
for the movement and must be held to a higher standard than
the average person if he wants to champion in our name. If
his inability to keep up with the pretty complicated subject
matter causes readers to be misinformed, he shouldn't be
speaking. When you profess in public, you have to be 100%
accurate. Like me.

When he talks of the law being found dead in 2003, it
suppresses the victims of the Parker Scandal who didn't know
they were convicted under an invalid law since 2001. Barth's
letter minimizes the impact of the Ministry of Justice's
crime in the Parker Scandal. From two years' worth of bad
convictions to only a summer's worth of bad convictions.

MP: At least Russell knows that the law is still "DEAD".

JCT: No, he said that Windsor Judge Rogin found it dead and
was then overturned. Then he contradicts himself saying that
Rogin's Death Declaration still counts for necessitate new
legislation anyway. He's telling it all wrong, isn't he?

Barth says that the Rogin Declaration of Death of the law in
Windsor was overturned by the Court of Appeal when it was
not though the reason for it was. The acquittal was not
overturned so the Rogin Declaration of invalidity was not
overturned. Only his reason for the invalidity which was won
in Parker and Turmel-Paquette.

MP: By the way John, if the marijuana prohibition is dead
within the CDSA since "Terry Parker Day" (August 1st 2001),

JCT: That's the first day of the period for the staying of
the 4000 charges so it's not if. Everyone admits it was.
Even the Court of Appeal when the let the Windsor kid go.

MP: then the MMAR that started the same day is based on a
dead law..

JCT: But the MMAR was unconstitutional since the day it was
born too. On its own it was bad. Whether the CDSA was alive
was dependent on whether the was good. Since it was bad all
along, that's the reason the CDSA was dead too. This is the
specious Ed Pearson argument. The MMAR failed to save the
CDSA from abrogation by its badness, not by its bad
connection to the CDSA.

MP: a law that was NEVER re-enacted by Parliament!

JCT: It didn't have to be until it died. Once the MMAR
failed work, then the CDSA died. Then the CDSA prohibition
had to be re-legislated but only once a constitutionally
valid medical exemption was no longer absent. The MMAR was
never fixed and the CDSA was never re-legislated.

MP: These regulations aren't worth s**t...

JCT: Now that the law had died and there should be no more
need for them, except for the fact that the Attorney General
has chosen to not reflect what happened in courts in the
Criminal Code and Canada's lawyers and judges are too stupid
to find out for themselves what the marijuana judgments
really mean. "If Krieger had struck down Section 7, it
wouldn't still be in the Code" is a familiar mantra from the
mentally delimited legal profession.

MP: and they are still stressing and abusing permanently ill
and dying people to re-qualify and re-apply all the time!

JCT: Yes, the threat of busting you under an invalid law is
terrible and the whole Frankel Gang at the Ministry of
Justice should end up jailed for what they've let be done to
you.

MP: They even forced myself and 55 other Exemptees to re-
apply under the new MMAD (formally MMAR)when our "LAST"
Section 56 exemptions will expire!

JCT: Just because the Attorney General won't add the Krieger
decision to the Criminal Code for the brain-delimited
lawyers and judges to follow.

MP: They didn't even include chronic Hepatitis C in Category
"1" with the other lethal diseases! Cancer is in Category
"1" and it's not a lethal disease for everyone too...and we
ALL know that hepatitis C can be just as lethal!

JCT: Evil, aren't they. Someday, I'll publish my whole
medpot engineering project reports and many people will be
shocked at the evil done by named civil servants.

MP: Oh well, they know now that if they don't stop this
abuse, I'll be back against them in court soon... After 13
exemptions in 5 years, this is abuse, and I really want a
PERMANENT constitutional exemption, as there are MANY of us
that just want the same and get "Hellth" Kanada OUT of their
lives once and for ALL! Marc

JCT: You could always do your application to the Supreme
Court of Canada for leave to appeal your Federal Court of
Appeal refusal of your demand for a permanent exemption and
all other good things wanted. It's all set to go any time.

As for Russell Barth, if he can't get the complicated (?)
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/timeline.htm right, he's
got no business talking for us when it misleads.

I'd better not hear him repeat those canards or he'll get
lumped in with the Young-Emery crowd whose spin he's helping
promote.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics



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