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Hi all,

Glad to see some discussion starting.

As i mentioned on the old ls, there is a collection of emails dating
back to 1997. It would likely be a big job to migrate them from the
current computer and email program to files that can be accessed on the
new ls... but i am willing to attempt that if there are no big
objections.

However, we should all be aware that most of us have made the usual
mistakes of posting personal material to the list when we thought we
were writing to an individual in private.

If i don't hear to the contrary I will assume that nobody wants to
withdraw their erroneous emails from the archive that would be created.
But i think it may be worth some discussion. It would, be very difficult
to separate out emails that were mistakes from those intended to be sent
without some more specific information about content and approximate
dates. As well, I am not even certain that there is any good way to do
this and won't be trying until my last edit of my dissertation is
complete.

So let me/us know what you think about attempting to restore a permanent
archive.

bear




Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:38 pm

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Dear B & G - I'm not sure if this is a bit or a bite, but here goes. Pondering the penchant to dichotomize on unitary phenomenon I wonder why we don't talk...
mahanley
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Dec 12, 2003
6:00 am

Hi all, Glad to see some discussion starting. As i mentioned on the old ls, there is a collection of emails dating back to 1997. It would likely be a big job...
Bear
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Dec 12, 2003
5:32 pm

Colleagues, Based on the dialogue following my keynote address at the Savannah SRS Conference in November, my understanding is that we are exploring the...
Jacqueline Fawcett
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Dec 12, 2003
11:07 am

Some thouhts that have been swimming around. I checked the OED... as i suspected improbable refers to unlikely in an extreme form. so, for example - the...
bear
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Dec 13, 2003
6:50 pm

Hi I am not capable of original thought like Bear, so have to depend on throwing in a quote from somebody else, in this case from Thomas Mann's Magic Mountain:...
Francis Biley
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Dec 13, 2003
10:30 pm

Good points Fran... I would harken to the consideration that when it comes to inequities of access to or protection from health care services (being mindful of...
bear
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Dec 13, 2003
11:55 pm

Hi Bear et al, Yes quite right Bear, and I loved the Cat link! As a recent paper on Caring suggested (?author), for all the academic posturing and all that has...
Francis Biley
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Dec 14, 2003
10:24 pm

Just a note on Fran's note regarding work on caring..."defining caring" is not what most scholars who study caring in nursing are interested in...what many are...
Savina Schoenhofer
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Dec 14, 2003
11:55 pm

Some tentative definitions related to 'probabilistic', and I note that the OED definitions toward the bottom probably will sustain some deep thought about how...
Bear
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Dec 15, 2003
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Hi, Thank you for your response Savina; which ironically perhaps and as you acknowldege, identifies the heart of the problem. Paley, for it was him...asserted...
Francis Biley
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Dec 15, 2003
11:41 am

OOOOOOOOOO... Teacher already giving assignments! Actually, glossary is good idea. With all the multi-definition concepts floating around, a good consensual...
kelly rutherford
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Dec 15, 2003
6:03 am

Colleagues, I cannot locate a specific definition that Martha used for probabilistic. Thus, I suggest that we use a dictionary definition. My unabridged...
Jacqueline Fawcett
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Dec 15, 2003
11:44 am

In response to "Transcending" the need for a glossary: I agree that is the "ideal" But, as a student who had just read Martha's works, felt "the call", but...
kelly rutherford
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Dec 15, 2003
9:40 pm

Hi Kelly, Yes I very much agree with that, having myself, all of us (?) passed through that puzzlement stage, now I just try to live it rather than try to...
Francis Biley
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Dec 15, 2003
10:27 pm

definitely dissertation... am at that stage where i am almost indifferent between revising latest copy and simply burning all known copies. only the question...
bear
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Dec 15, 2003
10:40 pm

Definitely NOT pretentious Fran. I would say practical. Many things are easier to live than understand. Consider the musician vs the music theorist, etc.......
kelly rutherford
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Dec 16, 2003
4:33 am

Colleagues, The idea of improbables is most interesting! Jacqui ... From: mahanley [mailto:mahanley@...] Sent: Fri 12/12/2003 12:59 AM To:...
Jacqueline Fawcett
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Dec 12, 2003
10:12 pm

As an admirer, not a practitioner of SUHB, some thoughts on Jacqui's questions have occurred to me. In reverse order, in re qualitative approaches only:...
Savina Schoenhofer
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Dec 13, 2003
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Colleagues, This comes in response to Bear's thoughts of December 13th regarding unpredictability. I was expecially interested in Bear's comments about...
Jacqueline Fawcett
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Dec 16, 2003
2:21 pm

i would say yes, because what is revealed through the statistical piece is a manifestation of the whole--and represents either experiences, perceptions or...
alison rushing
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Dec 16, 2003
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I would echo Ali's sentiment - perhaps with an analogy to the cosmos. There is an underlying pattern to the universe which exists as a whole. Among the...
Bear
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Dec 16, 2003
4:13 pm

bear, i wouldn't "factor out and replace" anything w/ anything--maybe there are multiple universes that co-exist--but they would still be just manifestations...
alison rushing
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Dec 26, 2003
2:22 am

I recently read "On the Quantum Mechanics of Consciousness, with Application to Anomalous Phenomena" by R. G. Jahn and J. Dunne. I have a particular interest...
Valerie Eschiti
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Dec 16, 2003
4:38 pm

Hi OK, Ive constructed a glossary page at http://medweb.uwcm.ac.uk/martha/ Interested to hear what people think. I had a little trouble trying to seperate out...
Francis Biley
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Dec 17, 2003
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Colleagues, I finally have had some time to check out what Martha had to say about four-dimensionality. See below. Jacqui Four-Dimensionality “The human...
Jacqueline Fawcett
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Jan 8, 2004
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Re four-dimensionality discussion: In 1994, Martha shared a change - she chose to change four-dimensionality to pandimensionality, saying that the definition,...
A Farren
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Jan 8, 2004
5:29 pm

Arlene, Thank you for your contribution. Martha did, indeed, change four-dimensionality to pandimensionality. Jacqui ... From: A Farren...
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Jan 10, 2004
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Hi Yes, my initial request for a definition was meant to indicate a bit of irony in asking for a def of four dimensionality, but I think its may be important...
Francis Biley
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Jan 10, 2004
11:58 pm

Hi everyone, Martha was the last person to submit her chapter for my 1990 book (Visions of Rogers'Science-Based Nursing). It was ready to go to press when I...
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Jan 11, 2004
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Hi Oooops, in the last mail from myself I asked for John to contribute to this thread, and might have given the impression that I was quite forgetting ...
Francis Biley
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