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rest..... Mark Twain*

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MT India Digest
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"Effective MT Forum"
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Published by:
MT India www.MTIndia.org

Moderated by:
Amit Chatterjee,SM amit@...

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May 11, 2002 Digest #080
..................................................
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
---------------------------------------------
1) Professional Writing Award - 2002
---------------------------------------------
FOUR DAYS TO GO!!
LAST DATE for submission - May 15th.

Attractive cash prizes - for details see:
http://www.mtindia.org/awards.htm
Do you have it in you?

---------------------------------------------
2) MT TIMES - quarterly print journal!
---------------------------------------------

Excellent opportunities for
ADVERTISERS/SPONSORS:
http://www.mtindia.org/policies/AdsMTTimes.htm

PREVIEW articles @ MT TIMES, now:
http://www.mtindia.org/mttimes/default.htm

.....IN THIS DIGEST.....

======MODERATOR COMMENT =======

-=The Sound of Silence=-

~Maj (Dr.) Amit Chatterjee, SM

========== BILLBOARD =============

-=You live in Y2K2=-

=========MODERATOR COMMENT ============

Hi everyone!

Believe it or not, one of the guiding principles I try to live by
is a contemporary beatitude taught to me by my late friend, mentor,
and guide (who shall remain anonymous): "Blessed is he who has
nothing to say, and cannot be persuaded to say it."

I've have actually nothing to say this week, hopefully worth
saying; so just take a back seat today in favour of my
ramblings.... these are the sparks which ignite new discussions:)

For starters, just a short Buddhist outlook on life, which are
quite pertinent to this list as any other community.

1. Follow the three R's: Respect for self, Respect for others and
Responsibility for all your actions.

2. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values.

3. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality!

4. Don't let a little dispute injure a great community.

5. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.

6. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to
correct it.

7. Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly!

See how adept I have become in implementing rule seven :)

And while the Blakes have taken a break, let my try to wedge in my
foot through the door ....

Legend: American English - AE
British English - BE

Strangely in AE tap water comes out of the faucet unless you're in
Pennsylvanis, where, apparently, its the register. So I am not
surprised at Cheryl's "It is called a geyser, even though the water
flows downward, not upwards like Old Faithful.", though my BE
dictationary gives the meaning to be"apparatus for heating water",
when pronounced the right way. Cultural differences......

"Oh, I forgot to say that in case any of you were thinking I could
just turn on the geyser the night before, so I could shower as soon
as my eyes were focused, think again. You can't leave those
suckers on all night, or they may potentially explode. They don't
have thermostats, you see."

Dear Cheryl, you have been taken for a merry ride - I haven't seen
one in my lifetime in India which didn't have a thermostat. And we
DO switch it on at night. For those who are in Bangalore, you might
like to call on a gentleman by the name of Ramesh Salvi. You'll
find him at Ahuja Palace, Richmond Road, Bangalore. He needs to be
given the Darwinian Award, for projecting Indian homes so uniquely,
and well.....er.... homely (as in AE), Internationally!

"The train was on time, our seats were easy to find and the coach
was air conditioned and much roomier than any plane. The next
pleasant surprise was that we were served a very good amount of
food for lunch and a liter of bottled water each. The food was a
little on the hot side, but tasty. A couple of hours later we got
more food, a snack of breadsticks, cookie and a juice box. An hour
later another tasty meal, drink, coffee, water, and dessert. Good
thing we brought all that food and drink with us."

It was nice to hear that the Shatabdi Express is delivering.:)

"One of the fun things about being a stranger in a strange land is
trying new foods. The fun thing about doing this in India is that
to us gringos the food is not only new, it's unidentifiable."

To be candid, Joe, there is no such thing as "Indian food"
(believe me, I am an exponent of this subject). There is no such
thing as "North Indian food", "South Indian food" etc, either. What
you are talking about is the Indian version of fast food, though
they don't call it such. Real "Indian food" is hard to find in
urban India, even at home - nobody has the time, and arts that are
not practiced tend to die out. But when you have made your lucre,
and really want to see India - it's my advice that you stick to 80%
of the real India - rural; where they practice arts handed down
through the geneations - including culinary skills:)

And on an ending note, here's Help for you to figure out those
slick and glossy ads from companies recruiting, here is what they
actually mean when they say -

"JOIN OUR INCORPORATED, US BASED COMPANY"
We have no time to train or talk to you; you'll have to introduce
yourself to your co-workers - if there are any!

"JOIN OUR FAST-PACED COMPANY"
We have actually no work at present; however we work overtime in
looking for work.

"IMMEDIATE OPENING"
The MT who used to have this job walked out a month ago. We're
just running the ad now!

"COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT"
We have a lot of turnover - in fact, we change our MTs and clients
every month!

"EXCITING AND PROFESSIONAL WORK ENVIRONMENT"
Guys in grey suits will bore you with tales of midnight binges and
their weekends on the golf greens. And of course, they are all US
returned! Ask them what's black ice, and they will be floored!

"MUST BE DEADLINE ORIENTED"
You'll be presented with six weeks of backlog on your first day -
and be expected to clear it in a week!

"FLEXIBLE HOURS"
Three shifts; 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year!
Work 72 hours a week and get paid for 42.:)

"DUTIES WILL VARY"
Anyone in the office can boss you around, including the system
administrator and the janitor.

"MUST HAVE AN EYE FOR DETAIL"
We have no quality control systems or procedures! You have to be
client ready!!

"SEEKING CANDIDATES WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERIENCE"
You'll need it to replace three people who just left, and were
dealing with different specialties and ESL dictators!

"PROBLEM-SOLVING SKILLS A MUST"
You're walking into a company in perpetual chaos. Do not try to
tell the management your troubles - you have to swim in this!

"REQUIRES TEAM LEADERSHIP SKILLS"
You'll have the responsibilities of an account manager, without the
pay, perks, respect or even the credit!

"GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS"
Management communicates in something vaguely resembling Greek; you
listen, try to figure out what they mean and want done. Greek and
Latin were part of your MT training - right?

"ABILITY TO HANDLE A HEAVY WORKLOAD"
You whine, you're fired without dues owed!

Cheers!!! :)

Maj (Dr.) Amit Chatterjee, SM
Strategist/Founder ~ mailto:MTIndia@...
MT India ~ http://mtindia.org


============== BILLBOARD =================

From: Unknown
Subject: YOU KNOW YOU LIVE IN THE YEAR 2002, when....

1. You get an extra phone line so you can get phone calls.

2. You SMS your significant other to ask her out for dinner.

3. You daily chat with your brother but have not heard his voice
for last 6 months.

4. Your parents asks you to send them a JPEG file of your family so
they can see you.

5. You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see
if anyone is home.

6. Your excuse for not staying in touch with old school buddies is
that they don't have e-mail addresses.

7. You get up in the morning and go on-line before going for the
newspaper.

8. You hear most of your jokes via e-mail instead of in person.

9. Y2K phobia is out - now you are a HIPAACRAT!

10. This space is reserved for the 99 other things you & I would
like to cough out in future publications!

----------------------------------------------------
The contents of the digest do not necessarily reflect the
opinions of MT India and affiliates or of the moderator.
MT India or Mediweb Infotech Pvt. Ltd. make no
warranties, either expressed or implied, about the
truth or accuracy of the contents of the MT India Digest.

Please send suggestions and comments to:
mailto:amit@...

FAQ, Information & Archives at our website:
http://www.mtindia.org/mtdigest/default.htm

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*Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the
rest..... Mark Twain*

============================================
MT India Digest
Moderated Discussion List
"Effective MT Forum"
============================================
Published by:
MT India www.MTIndia.org

Moderated by:
Amit Chatterjee,SM amit@...

..................................................
May 11, 2002 Digest #080
..................................................
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
---------------------------------------------
1) Professional Writing Award - 2002
---------------------------------------------
FOUR DAYS TO GO!!
LAST DATE for submission - May 15th.

Attractive cash prizes - for details see:
http://www.mtindia.org/awards.htm
Do you have it in you?

---------------------------------------------
2) MT TIMES - quarterly print journal!
---------------------------------------------

Excellent opportunities for
ADVERTISERS/SPONSORS:
http://www.mtindia.org/policies/AdsMTTimes.htm

PREVIEW articles @ MT TIMES, now:
http://www.mtindia.org/mttimes/default.htm

.....IN THIS DIGEST.....

======MODERATOR COMMENT =======

-=The Sound of Silence=-

~Maj (Dr.) Amit Chatterjee, SM

========== BILLBOARD =============

-=You live in Y2K2=-

=========MODERATOR COMMENT ============

Hi everyone!

Believe it or not, one of the guiding principles I try to live by
is a contemporary beatitude taught to me by my late friend, mentor,
and guide (who shall remain anonymous): "Blessed is he who has
nothing to say, and cannot be persuaded to say it."

I've have actually nothing to say this week, hopefully worth
saying; so just take a back seat today in favour of my
ramblings.... these are the sparks which ignite new discussions:)

For starters, just a short Buddhist outlook on life, which are
quite pertinent to this list as any other community.

1. Follow the three R's: Respect for self, Respect for others and
Responsibility for all your actions.

2. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values.

3. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality!

4. Don't let a little dispute injure a great community.

5. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.

6. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to
correct it.

7. Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly!

See how adept I have become in implementing rule seven :)

And while the Blakes have taken a break, let my try to wedge in my
foot through the door ....

Legend: American English - AE
British English - BE

Strangely in AE tap water comes out of the faucet unless you're in
Pennsylvanis, where, apparently, its the register. So I am not
surprised at Cheryl's "It is called a geyser, even though the water
flows downward, not upwards like Old Faithful.", though my BE
dictationary gives the meaning to be"apparatus for heating water",
when pronounced the right way. Cultural differences......

"Oh, I forgot to say that in case any of you were thinking I could
just turn on the geyser the night before, so I could shower as soon
as my eyes were focused, think again. You can't leave those
suckers on all night, or they may potentially explode. They don't
have thermostats, you see."

Dear Cheryl, you have been taken for a merry ride - I haven't seen
one in my lifetime in India which didn't have a thermostat. And we
DO switch it on at night. For those who are in Bangalore, you might
like to call on a gentleman by the name of Ramesh Salvi. You'll
find him at Ahuja Palace, Richmond Road, Bangalore. He needs to be
given the Darwinian Award, for projecting Indian homes so uniquely,
and well.....er.... homely (as in AE), Internationally!

"The train was on time, our seats were easy to find and the coach
was air conditioned and much roomier than any plane. The next
pleasant surprise was that we were served a very good amount of
food for lunch and a liter of bottled water each. The food was a
little on the hot side, but tasty. A couple of hours later we got
more food, a snack of breadsticks, cookie and a juice box. An hour
later another tasty meal, drink, coffee, water, and dessert. Good
thing we brought all that food and drink with us."

It was nice to hear that the Shatabdi Express is delivering.:)

"One of the fun things about being a stranger in a strange land is
trying new foods. The fun thing about doing this in India is that
to us gringos the food is not only new, it's unidentifiable."

To be candid, Joe, there is no such thing as "Indian food"
(believe me, I am an exponent of this subject). There is no such
thing as "North Indian food", "South Indian food" etc, either. What
you are talking about is the Indian version of fast food, though
they don't call it such. Real "Indian food" is hard to find in
urban India, even at home - nobody has the time, and arts that are
not practiced tend to die out. But when you have made your lucre,
and really want to see India - it's my advice that you stick to 80%
of the real India - rural; where they practice arts handed down
through the geneations - including culinary skills:)

And on an ending note, here's Help for you to figure out those
slick and glossy ads from companies recruiting, here is what they
actually mean when they say -

"JOIN OUR INCORPORATED, US BASED COMPANY"
We have no time to train or talk to you; you'll have to introduce
yourself to your co-workers - if there are any!

"JOIN OUR FAST-PACED COMPANY"
We have actually no work at present; however we work overtime in
looking for work.

"IMMEDIATE OPENING"
The MT who used to have this job walked out a month ago. We're
just running the ad now!

"COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT"
We have a lot of turnover - in fact, we change our MTs and clients
every month!

"EXCITING AND PROFESSIONAL WORK ENVIRONMENT"
Guys in grey suits will bore you with tales of midnight binges and
their weekends on the golf greens. And of course, they are all US
returned! Ask them what's black ice, and they will be floored!

"MUST BE DEADLINE ORIENTED"
You'll be presented with six weeks of backlog on your first day -
and be expected to clear it in a week!

"FLEXIBLE HOURS"
Three shifts; 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year!
Work 72 hours a week and get paid for 42.:)

"DUTIES WILL VARY"
Anyone in the office can boss you around, including the system
administrator and the janitor.

"MUST HAVE AN EYE FOR DETAIL"
We have no quality control systems or procedures! You have to be
client ready!!

"SEEKING CANDIDATES WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERIENCE"
You'll need it to replace three people who just left, and were
dealing with different specialties and ESL dictators!

"PROBLEM-SOLVING SKILLS A MUST"
You're walking into a company in perpetual chaos. Do not try to
tell the management your troubles - you have to swim in this!

"REQUIRES TEAM LEADERSHIP SKILLS"
You'll have the responsibilities of an account manager, without the
pay, perks, respect or even the credit!

"GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS"
Management communicates in something vaguely resembling Greek; you
listen, try to figure out what they mean and want done. Greek and
Latin were part of your MT training - right?

"ABILITY TO HANDLE A HEAVY WORKLOAD"
You whine, you're fired without dues owed!

Cheers!!! :)

Maj (Dr.) Amit Chatterjee, SM
Strategist/Founder ~ mailto:MTIndia@...
MT India ~ http://mtindia.org


============== BILLBOARD =================

From: Unknown
Subject: YOU KNOW YOU LIVE IN THE YEAR 2002, when....

1. You get an extra phone line so you can get phone calls.

2. You SMS your significant other to ask her out for dinner.

3. You daily chat with your brother but have not heard his voice
for last 6 months.

4. Your parents asks you to send them a JPEG file of your family so
they can see you.

5. You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see
if anyone is home.

6. Your excuse for not staying in touch with old school buddies is
that they don't have e-mail addresses.

7. You get up in the morning and go on-line before going for the
newspaper.

8. You hear most of your jokes via e-mail instead of in person.

9. Y2K phobia is out - now you are a HIPAACRAT!

10. This space is reserved for the 99 other things you & I would
like to cough out in future publications!

----------------------------------------------------
The contents of the digest do not necessarily reflect the
opinions of MT India and affiliates or of the moderator.
MT India or Mediweb Infotech Pvt. Ltd. make no
warranties, either expressed or implied, about the
truth or accuracy of the contents of the MT India Digest.

Please send suggestions and comments to:
mailto:amit@...

FAQ, Information & Archives at our website:
http://www.mtindia.org/mtdigest/default.htm

Send your posts to:
mailto:MTID@yahoogroups.com

---------- End of MT India Digest -----------

Are you a member of MT India?

Eligibility criteria and membership details at our website:
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