To: mscured@yahoogroups.com
From: "Karen Capozza" <kcapozza@...>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 03:05:42 +0000
Subject: [mscured] off of all meds



Betsy,


I agree with you.  I was on medications for the last 20 years straight.  And
now I am siked to say I am on NO medications at all.  I must say getting off
of the Baclofen was tuff but I knew it had to be done.  I love the feeling
of not being on any drugs.


I have Copaxone sitting in the fridge and I am not even doing that.  I can't
remember who said it either Bernard Jensen or Dr. Schultz that your skin
should remain intact for it is your etheric protection.  I never liked
giving myself those shots.


I am now able to work out at home.  Yesterday I did the bike and our total
gym for a half hour straight.  I got my heart pumping and it felt great.  I
have not been able to do that for 3 years!!!!!!!!!



Karen

>To: mscured@yahoogroups.com
>From: "lovetoyou10305" <lmastromar@...>
>Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 01:22:56 -0000
>Subject: [mscured] Re: Alternative Method
>
>Hi Rani
>
>As indicated in my original post, I do not have MS.
>I have been using Reiki to treat a thyroid condition and I have met
>with success in using it as a treatment.
>
>One of the spiritual healers I have worked with was diagnosed with
>MS. In the initial onset of the disease she applied spiritual healing
>practices for treatment.  She applied Reiki and IET.  As we speak she
>is totally symptom free of MS. Her story prompted me to bring this
>information to this message board.   She has a powerful, prayerful
>belief system that strengthens her and continues to promote healing.
>
>I do not tout Reiki as a cure all, for I am compassionate and
>sensitive to the needs of this group. If I sounded that way in my
>post I appologize.   I only bring awareness to it because most of the
>Reiki practitioners I come across were brought to its practice
>because of the onset of illness in either them or a loved one.  For
>them, as for I, Reiki has been a light in the darkness of very long
>tunnel and many people have not heard of it or its benefits.
>
>The best I can say to anyone is to, like anything else, do your
>research.  There are many wonderful books written on the technique
>and there are many more internet sites in which you can find
>information. The best results come when you can learn the system and
>apply it everyday to yourself.
>
>I offer all of you my love and prayers and if anyone would like more
>information on the topic feel free to email me at lmastromar@...
>
>Peace and
>lovetoyou10305

AN IMPORTANT NATURAL THERAPY FOR MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS
http://doctoryourself.com/ms_2.html

Maybe the M.S. patient doesn't just have to learn to live with it.

Years ago, German physician J. Evers, M.D. reported considerable
improvement in nearly six hundred M.S. patients on an entirely raw food
diet (Public Deutsche Med. W., 72:521, September 19, 1947).  This is rather
good for a disease that is generally considered to be incurable.  "The
cause is unknown ... There is no specific therapy," says the Merck Manual,
Fourteenth Edition (pages 1354-1357).  Doctors and patients relying on this
standard medical reference work for assistance may here find it a
disappointment.

Dr. Evers decided to try something new.  He ended up doing something old:
prescribing a natural, healthy diet.  His patients were to eat only
unprocessed and mostly uncooked foods.  Why?  "My presumption is that the
Multiple Sclerosis is a metabolic disease which has its cause in the
denaturation of our food," he said.  In other words, refined foods have
evidently lost something, which Dr. Evers intended to find in fresh,
untreated foods.  "I ordered grain fruits, like sprouted rye and wheat,
vitamin B-1 (thiamin), some whole grain bread and coarse
flakes...everything raw or at least as little denatured as possible."  Raw
milk, raw eggs and honey were permitted;  preserved foods, nicotine,
coffee, tea, alcohol, salt, sugar, white flour, spices and condiments were
prohibited.

Extreme?  Perhaps.  "I refuse on principle any half treatment.  You can
never do harm.  I have not used any other therapy," said Dr. Evers.  Then
consider this: "Control examinations of my patients by experienced
specialists (neurologists, internists and ophthalmologists) acknowledge
remarkable improvements.  Patients...entirely without hope have still been
improved by diet treatment."

Imagine: all this by 1947.  Since then, Dr. Evers went on to found the
world's first clinic specializing in multiple sclerosis treatment. Before
1970 he had treated over 10,000 cases.  His experience and success cannot
be easily dismissed.  Dr. Evers has written two books:  The Changed Aspects
of Diseases and the very practical Directions For Treatment of Multiple
Sclerosis.  Both are published by Karl F. Haug, Ulm/Donau, Germany, 1964.
Your librarian can help you borrow copies through Interlibrary Loan.

There is more than just hope for people with M.S.  You can hardly hurt
yourself by improving your diet, and look what you might accomplish.

For further information on the natural treatment of M.S. you will want to
look at two books by Dr. Paavo Airola: Health Secrets From Europe (New
York: Arco, 1972) and especially How to Get Well (Phoenix: Health Plus,
l979).

Additional information about a megavitamin protocol for M.S. is contained
in Klenner, Frederick R. "Treating Multiple Sclerosis Nutritionally,"
Cancer Control Journal 2:3, pp 16-20, and also, especially, in Smith,
Lendon H. Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C,  pp 42-53.  I cannot
overstate the importance of this book.

You might want to hand a copy of each of these to your doctor, too.


Copyright  C  1999 and prior years Andrew W. Saul.  From the books QUACK
DOCTOR and PAPERBACK CLINIC, available from Dr. Andrew Saul,  Number 8 Van
Buren Street, Holley, New York 14470.
http://doctoryourself.com/ms_2.html

Message: 2
    Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:14:37 -0800
    From: "Glenna" <glenna@...>
Subject: Re: Vitamin B12


I previously had 1 cc IM injections of B12 once a week. Those really made a
difference in my energy level/improved my fatigue. I found out (from an MD's
web site/videos) that injectable B12 is made of sewage sludgeor material
from animals. Yuk! I mentioned that to my MD and he didn't dispute that
injectable B12 is made from sewage sludge or material from animals. I can't
believe that I was shooting that stuff into me! Others may want to
investigate that for themselves. I've moved to using a daily vegetarian
sublingual B12 supplement. According to some MDs, if our intestines are
functioning correctly, we should be able to get enough B12 - even from vegan
food. Somehow my intestines weren't working correctly because my B12 levels
were VERY low when I had them tested a couple of years ago. I don't think my
intestines are up to processing B12 yet (I also have "leaky gut"/intestinal
dysbiosis), but perhaps in the future I will improve and can stop my
sublingual supplements. I have also read elsewhere on the Internet that
mercury amalgam fillings can cause your body to need more B12 so that may
continue to be a problem for me. I had my fillings removed about 2-3 years
ago, but could still have excess mercury in my body. So far the sublinguals
(or something) seem to be keeping my B12 level OK. I usually get very
fatigued and "loopy" when I'm low on B12. That used to take 7 days or less
after a B12 injection (it's been as low as 5 days). That no longer seems to
be a problem. My last shot was July 22nd and I still feel great. I hope that
I won't need another B12 shot and have to be shot with sewage sludge/animal
products again.


I noted that on the mscured list several folks had blood test results that
showed them to have a "normal" level of B12, even though they seemed to be
low in B12. When I had my blood test for B12, my MD recommended a different
blood test than is normally done. I had a blood test from Spectracel
Laboratories, Inc. for FIA Comprehensive Profile. The FIA test showed me to
be very low in B12, a key factor for me. Because of the results of this
test, I began the weekly intramuscular B12 injections, which solved my
previous fatigue problem. As I mentioned above, thankfully, I'm now able to
do vegetarian sublingual B12 instead. The tests from SpectraCell
Laboratories is slightly different than most tests for B12 level that are
normally done, because they test for lymphocyte levels, which are the most
accurate levels for vitamin B12. That may be why my blood tests came back
differently than those of many MS patients who have the "usual" B12 test.


Glenna

My wife had a very bad series of exacerbations last spring/early
summer.  A trusted friend recommend Reiki for her.  I went ahead and
received the Reiki attunement, and it has been very very helpful for
her.  I have gotten a lot out of using Reiki too.

-Dave

Message: 4
    Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:56:51 EST
    From: kasparcat@...
Subject: Re: Newly diagnosed


I took Avonex for 4.5 years... "as a preventative measure."
Let's see what it prevented....
My MS has gone from one area of brain lesions and R/R to brain and spinal
cord lesions and S/P.


Rani

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Message: 12
    Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:42:43 +0000
    From: "Karen Capozza" <kcapozza@...>
Subject: Does anyone do colonics?


Hi all,


I am going to try a colonic.  I was wondering if anyone has tried them and
what they have to say about it.


I have read quite a bit on the subject and and have both sides of the coin.
A real reason for my interest in it is because sometimes when I have to give
myself an enema because of constipation, I feel and move sooooooo much
better afterwards.  Obviously a lot of the toxins are removed and if a
colonic is worth 20 bowel movements......


On another note some of you know I am doing the life sources protocol
(still).  My progress has been nothing less than fantastic.  I am barely
even using my cane now and have ENERGY.  I can even keep up with my 2 year
old.  I am convinced, at least in my case, that I was full of critters
(candida, mycoplasma, and borrelia mylophora sp).  I can tell that my body
is really cleaning house and think the colonic may help speed it up.


any suggestions would be appreciated.


KC

My Experience With Bee Venom Therapy
by Jeff Wilson

jawsfive@...

from:
http://www.designer2.com/bvt/


I am a 33-year-old male who has always been very active and healthy. Seven
years ago I was diagnosed with chronic-progressive multiple sclerosis. At
the time I was diagnosed I working out at the gym regularly and playing
softball two or three times a week.

After I was diagnosed it was a quick downhill slide. My hands and arms went
numb, from right below my chest all the way down to my toes. I lost all
feelings. I lost total control of my bowel and bladder function and my
vision would come and go several times. Everytime I would have problems my
doctor would put me on Prednisone and tell me to go home and rest. My first
course of IV Prednisone relieved some of the symptoms for a short while and
after that it didn't seem to help.

Approximately two years ago I started on Betaseron. I was really pleased
with the results I had with it. I didn't have the bad reactions most people
do when they first start and it stopped the progression of the MS I was
experiencing. The symptoms I had when I started the Betaseron remained but
I was experiencing no new symptoms. I still get bladder infections quite
often, but I respond real well to antibiotics.

I have tried every pipedream that came along. I had the amalgam removed
from my teeth, I tried the healthy lifestyle thing and nothing made a
difference.
  When my mother gave me Jan McAdams phone number and asked me if I had
heard about the bee stings I didn't want anything to do with it. I didn't
want to build myself up for another big let down. Curiosity got the better
of me and I called. I talked with Jan for a long time and she invited me to
come over and pick up a book and video. I was very skeptical but I wanted
to see the materials.I met with Jan and she explained it all to me and then
came the big question: Well, do you want to do it?
She could tell I was very skeptical and asked if I wanted to talk to some
other people who were getting stings. I said, "No." I wanted to go home and
look at the video and book and I would think about it. I had no intention
of letting bees sting me; that hurts. The she asked if I wanted the two
test stings to see if I was allergic. I didn't want to look like a pansy so
I said, "Okay."

Jan gave me two bee stings at the base of my spine and removed the stingers
right away. We sat and talked for awhile to see if I would have a reaction.
She asked if I felt anything and I didn't. I left and started driving home
kind of angry at myself for even looking into all of this. A good song came
on the radio and I was driving along looking at the scenery and suddenly I
realized I was tapping my feet to the music and that I could feel the foot
pedals. It's been seven years since I could feel the pedals or to have the
energy to raise and lower my feet more than a couple of times. I was so
caught up in it that I missed my turn and got lost.

I have been getting strung now for a couple of weeks. Most of my numbness
is gone, by balance is incredibly better adn the fatigue is not near as
intense. It seems like I'm always catching myself doing something that I
couldn't do before starting the strings.

My M.S. is not cured. I still have had a couple of bad days, but I used to
only have a couple of good days. Thanks to people like Jan, who do this not
for money, but out of the goodness of their hearts I feel 100 percent
better. Along with my very supportive wife and family the future seems a
whole lot brighter.

  http://www.designer2.com/bvt/

from:
http://www.angelfire.com/va/honeybeeangel/
beewell50@...

My name is Donna Chandler and I was diagnosed in November 1992 with Multiple
Sclerosis. After using steroids for two weeks, I was still numb from the waist
down, double vision, little use of the left arm and hand. Scared, you bet!
Donald and I had two daughters to get through college. I wanted my life not
this! I did not have time for a disease with no cure. No treatment to stop the
progression. Disabled, no it couldn't happen to me!

A strange thing happened. Donald, a beekeeper, came home from a meeting one
evening and announced, "Donna, they are using beestings to treat MS." I
laughed. He loved me enough to keep seeking out information. I started calling
people all over the country and found no negatives to this. What I found were
results. Enough that I realized what did I have to lose? On March 28,1993, I
began my bee venom therapy. Being a Shock Trauma Tech.,with our local rescue
squad, I was aware of a possible reaction to the stings. We had a bee sting kit
ready. Following the suggestions of Pat Wagner(the Beelady) and Charles Mraz(
the godfather of beestings)we proceeded.


After 9 years and over 20,000 stings to see me you would not know that I have
MS or anything else. My miracle yes! We have shared our treatment with hundreds
of people across the nation and the seas. We have been in newspapers, TV shows,
our bees are given to all free. Our home is always open! Enough media coverage
to have studies started to see the benefits. My last check-up-no progression
not in 7 years! We did get our daughters through college, one married, and I
plan to keep stinging and enjoying the rest of my life. I thank God for his
bees, and my new found friends. The best part of having MS is meeting wonderful
people who come to us for help and watching them being helped, even in a small
way. No, it is not a easy treatment and some people do not see results at all.
Many of these people that do not see results stop the treatment before giving
it a chance to work.

Placebo effect, No! Some of us that have stopped the treatment got worse. The
ones that came back saw results once again. So many times I have heard "I can't
believe I stopped".

I am also a real believer in vitamins, massage therapy, meditation, and just
loving life. I have the best-in-the-world Chiropractor that gives me 100% of
his time and caring. He is always there when I need him. There are no words to
properly thank him for his support. I love you Dr. B!!

If you are interested in my therapy, please feel free to e-mail me. If not
interested in bee stings then I am also a huge collector of angels! My home is
full of them. Angels are my peace in this crazy world.

We never know what the future holds for us. I plan to keep on keeping on and
fighting this disease for the duration or until one day a cure is found. As I
stated in the beginning, I do not have the time for this disease and I refuse
to let it have first place in my life.
This page wouldn't be complete without once again thanking Pat Wagner and
Charles Mraz for their support and love to me. I probably would not be able to
write this page or even type with two hands if not for them and their desire to
share with others.


To my husband, Donald, who has put up with me for 31 years, the last 10 being
the hardest, thank you for loving me enough to encourage and help me fight this
fight without being alone. I am so glad that 31 years ago, you picked me to
spend the rest of your life with! I will do my best to continue to deserve the
love you give to me.

Pat Wagner
"The Bee Lady"
beelady@...


http://www.olg.com/beelady/info.htm

- I was diagnosed at Georgetown University Hospital in the Spring of 1970 with
relapsing/remitting multiple sclerosis.
- Medications given to me included ACTH, Prednisone, Dalmane, Halcion, Valium
(40 mgs./day), Seconal, Meprobamate, Dantrium, Dexedrine, Ditropan, Lomotil,
Erythromycin, Keflex, Percocet, Bicodin, Tylenol #3, Fiorinal, Morphine,
Indomethacin, and Timoptic eye drops.
- The course of my MS worsened until the Spring of 1992 when I experienced my
worst exacerbation in terms of duration and resistance to treatment.
- Two courses of high-dose Prednisone tapering over 6 weeks (80mgs. per day on
down) did not help.
- Because I would cry "at the drop of a hat", I was given Prozac for
depression.
- The medical records read "Wheelchair bound, numb woman with bladder
incontinence."
- Bladder surgery was done in March of 1992 but did not prove beneficial.
- Regarding mobility, it read "as if her feet were nailed to the wheelchair. No
movement since October, 1991."


- Then, on March 24, 1992, I received my first intentional sting from a
honeybee.
- Besides being numb, my skeletal system felt as though it was made of ice.
- Twenty minutes after I received a sting on my left knee, my entire leg no
longer felt bone cold. This was a very positive sign to me that there may be
something to this bee sting thing.

- I got four more stings that evening and the next day my entire body was no
longer cold except for my feet and hands.
- A noticeable increase in energy was evidenced in two days by her being able
to stay awake longer throughout the day.
- The hearing in my right ear was lost due to MS, but within two weeks I
regained it.
- My husband Ray became so hopeful for me that he bought a beehive, took over
stinging me, and I changed his name to Sting Ray!

Although the treatment has not been a cakewalk, its effects have made me a new
person. Upon follow-up with my neurologist who had said there was "No hope", he
called my name and I walked over to him. However, he did not recognize me
because he was EXPECTING A CRIPPLE IN A WHEELCHAIR!
from:
http://www.olg.com/beelady/info.htm

Message: 2
    Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 06:29:36 -0000
    From: "amandel" <amandel@...>
Subject: Reducing Fatigue + Introduction as I am new to the group


My name is Alan Mandel, and I live in Pittsburgh, PA.

(My WEB SITE:   http://hometown.aol.com/path2health4u )


I just joined the mscured group and look forward to sharing
experiences.

I used to frequent the various Multiple Sclerosis online groups but
have not been doing this lately so am a bit out of touch with what
are the larger/more useful groups on the web.

The reason I came back to the MS groups is that finally one of the
alternate treatments I have tried has made a difference in my
quality of health.  I am into the usual conventional medicines and
treatments, but something else has helped me, and I just want to
share this with others.

Please be patient with me.  One of the reasons I dropped out of the
various MS support groups a few years ago was that there were so
many claims of alternate treatments that simply did not work for
me.  So, I simply decided to not be as active with these groups as I
had been in the past.  Something described below changed my mind,
and I want to share this with other people who have MS or other
chronic diseases.



So, here's some background on my journey with MS:

I was diagnosed with MS in mid-1994.  Am on Avonex, Provigil, 4-
Aminopyridine (4-AP), and Methotrexate (once per week).  Have also
been on IV steroids from time to time, prednisone, etc.  I also wear
an AFO (Ankle Foot Orthotic) that helps to keep my right foot from
dropping.  (I can let you know more about the AFO if you are
interested as it has been very helpful to improving my walking.)

I also have been on a custom exercise program from a physical
therapist who specializes in neurological diseases.  It is key that
the physical therapist specialize in MS or have many MS patients.
This has worked well for me, but it took me a long time to find the
right physical therapist.  I can provide more about this if you are
interested.



VITAMINS CUSTOMIZED TO MY BODY'S CHEMISTRY HAVE HELPED ME. See below:


As far as supplements, I have tried a number of them.  Mostly in the
area of pygnogenol and grape seed extract.  I also tried flax oil,
selenium, OPC-3, and others.  Not much helped until I tried a
product called Custom Essentials from Ideal Health.  These are
vitamin supplements that are customized to my body's chemistry.
Basically, a urine sample is analyzed by a well-known lab called
Metametrix Labs.  Then one of 48 formulations is specified based on
the vitamin and nutrient needs of the individual.  The vitamins are
made by a well-known formulary named Douglas Labs to the highest
pharmocopia quality standard specified for supplements.  A 30-day
supply is shipped to me monthly.

My understanding is that this type of testing has been done by
Metametrix for almost 20 years for "the rich and famous"
(professional atheletes, olympic athletes, wealthy individuals,
etc.)  Ideal Health has brought this together from these well-
recognized labs and made this available to everyone at an affordable
price.

I put up a web site a few days ago at
http://hometown.aol.com/path2health4u
This shows my results/experiece to date.  The reduction in fatigue
has been phenominal.  With my previous experience with various
alternative therapies, I had no expectations of any improvements in
my health.  But, it is amazing to me that I have had such wonderful
results.  I just want to share this with others in the hope it will
help them.

I can send further information by email or U.S. mail.  There are
also narrated presentations on the web from time to time that people
with MS or other chronic diseases may want to listen to and look
at.  This gives people a chance to ask questions.

Please call or send email to me at amandel@... (or
alanpgh@...) and I will send you additional information.

One other comment:  The reason I tried the Customized Vitamins is
that a Doctor friend of mine, who is the Director of a Center for
the Aging and very well known in this field, told me that the
science behind these products is very well-founded.  So, I tried
this approach and was amazed after a little over a month on the
product.  Then, I went off the product for a week, and the fatigue
(and my snoring) came back.  I went back on this customized product,
and my fatigue is way down again.

It makes sense that getting my body chemistry in balance would make
some sort of difference in my quality of health.  So, I just wanted
to share this information with everyone.  It's not expensive to try
and it has the potential to make a difference.  It did for me!

There is also a separate product called the "Fit Test" that is a
Weight Managment System.  My wife has just gone on this product, and
is beginning to get good results.  We'll see what happens over the
next few months as she has only been on it for a short time so far.

Please look at my web site at
http://hometown.aol.com/path2health4u     and let me know your
questions or comments.

I am interested in sharing experiences with others who have MS.

Please send email or call at any time.

Thanks, and Happy Holidays!
Alan
___________
Alan Mandel
(412) 996-7700
amandel@...  or  alanpgh@...
ICQ# 9972675

Message: 10
    Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:43:28 EST
    From: Cah819@...
Subject: Re: Re: Anyone battling with candida to beat their MS ?


In a message dated 12/21/01 10:11:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
myelinman@... writes:



> toxicity and
> Caeliac.  I'm more or less clean on all of these, and my problem is
> poor lipid metabolism and chronic candida albicans.  It's her
> position that a restricted diet is only temporary until the imbalance
> is addressed, and after then I should begin to heal ... I hope !
>
> Regards,
> Myelinman
>


I think alot of the nutrition related doctors feel that way.  Lipid
metabolism problems and candida are pretty standard for people with MS.
(There is an article labeled "Fatigue" on Dr. Permutter's site, showing that
70+% of all MS patients have candida overgrowth.)  The lipid metabolism
problem was what Dr. Swank stressed in MS, and is the main reason for
eliminating saturated fat on most MS diets.  I know a lady who went to a
naturapath on the east coast, who believed as your doctor does.  He ran all
sorts of tests on her, had her have her mercury fillings replaced and
chelated for that.  Then he helped her correct all her vitamin and mineral
imbalances and now she is symptom free!  So, I still have hope that you are
right and eventually we can get our problems fixed and go back to normal.
But, I know now that I'll never eat the way I used to again.  I've learned so
much about nutrition through all this that I'd feel like I was eating poison,
if I started eating the way I used to, if I should get into the position of
being symptom free and thinking I'm cured.  I look at a hamburger and french
fries and all I can see is not only a 'heart attack in a sack", but also all
sorts of other health problems.  Plus, after awhile of being on my diet and
then slipping and eating something I shouldn't and getting an increase in
symptoms, I am just developing an aversion to those foods.  So, I guess I'm
stuck on this for life, or at least on some version of a healthy diet.
Carol

I BEAT MS BY CHANGING MY DIET!   (National Enquirer)

FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, Jacque Rigg was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis
and
given no hope of recovery. Today this remarkable athlete travels the
U.S.
winning golf championships -- and has bounced back totally from the
dreaded
disease.
THEN: Jacque Rigg in her wheelchair: "I not only thought I was going
to
die -- I really wanted to!"

Incredibly, she says she healed herself simply by fine-tuning her
diet!

At her low point, Jacque could barely walk across the room unaided;
going
any further required a wheelchair.

But she refused to accept defeat, and after months of trial and
error, she
found she was sensitive to several foods, and that removing them from
her
diet lessened her symptoms.

Gradually, she began to get better. Now, at 68, Jacque is in glowing
health.

"There were no miracles, no magic potions, no medical breakthroughs.

Others can do what I've done," beamed Jacque, author of the
book, "Curing
the Incurable."

MS is a degenerative disease of the brain, optic (eye) nerves and
spinal
cord. The cause is unknown, and it often attacks victims in the prime
of
their life.

"At first I was too busy to pay attention to several puzzling
symptoms -- a
slight limp and tingling sensations in my fingers and toes, but they
began
to get worse," she said.

"I was falling down, dropping things, and exhausted all of the time.
I was a
basket case and getting steadily worse."

In 1985, a neurologist gave her the chilling news: she had multiple
sclerosis.

A new treatment made her extremely ill. "I not only thought I was
going to
die," she said, "I really wanted to."

But fate intervened. "A book on allergies caught my attention,"
Jacque said.
"Even though I didn't have any allergies -- or didn't think I did --
many of
the allergic reactions described in the book were similar to many of
the
symptoms I had."

In 1987, she began keeping a food diary, listing everything she ate
and any
reactions she experienced following a meal. Slowly, she began to
discover
which foods caused her problems.

The lemon juice she doused on salads, for example, caused a spastic
movement
in her leg. She also changed her diet to include as many unprocessed,
organic foods as possible.



----------------------------------------------------------------------
------
----
FAST FACT!
Some 300,000 Americans suffer from MS.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
------
----

Jacque began feeling better almost immediately. She continued
experimenting
with foods and keeping her diary. Slowly, over a period of years, her
MS
symptoms began disappearing.

"It took about nine years before I could say I was really well. The
diary is
how I know I didn't just spontaneously go into remission," Jacque
said.

"I went off the diet several times to see if it would make a
difference.
Within two or three days, my limp was noticeably worse.

"Doctors will not agree I reversed the symptoms of MS. They believe
it can
go into remission for unknown reasons -- but they do not believe it
can be
reversed and the body repair itself.

"I not only made the disease stop progressing, I also began getting my
muscle strength back!"

She started hitting the golf course again -- and quickly got back in
the
swing of things. "My handicap is 16 now, which is very good for a
woman. I
can walk 18 holes and I enjoy cross- country skiing."

Now retired in Horseshoe Bay, Tex., she and husband Art travel the
country
participating in senior golf tournaments.

"When Jacque first joined us, she was a very high handicapper because
of her
medical problems," said Cynthia Powell, director of Senior Golfers of
America. "She's improved drastically and won numerous tournaments."

Concluded Jacque: "I believe the MS is still lurking in my body, but
I've
become so healthy it doesn't stand a chance.

"The body has a remarkable ability to heal itself, and I'm proof.
Today, the
only handicap I have is on the golf course!"

-- S.D. HUBBARD

Amazon.com book link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1883697174/104-0477645-4007169

Found this when I was surfing the web.  Thought it might interest
somebody on this group.

http://www.royalrife.com/mercury.html

Here is a recipe for mercury chelation that was sent to me by a lady
in Kennewick Washington. It appears to work for other
metals also. Alpha lipoic acid can also be considered for mercury and
other heavy metals chelation.

This is from an article found in the newsletter  "Alternative"
dated June, 1998.  A Dr. Yoshiaki Omura discovered
almost by accident that the leaves of the coriander plant can
accelerate the excretion of mercury, lead and aluminum from the
body.  He performed a study in which three amalgam fillings were
removed from an individual using all the precautions available to
prevent absorption of the mercury from the amalgam. Significant
amounts were later found in the individual's lungs, kidneys,
endocrine organs, liver and heart.  There was no mercury in these
tissues prior to the amalgam removal.

Remarkably, without the help of any chelation agents, cilantro
was able to remove the mercury in two to three weeks.  (Acupunct
Electrother Res 96;21(2):133-60)

Recipe for Cilantro Pesto (Make that "Chelation Pesto")

1 Clove garlic
1/2 cup almonds, cashews, or other nuts
1 cup packed fresh cilantro leaves
2 tablespoons lemon juice
6 tablespoons olive oil

Put the cilantro and olive oil in blender and process until the
cilantro is chopped.  Add the rest of the ingredients and process
to a lumpy paste. (You may need to add a touch of hot water and
scrape the sides of the blender.)  You can change the consistency
by altering the amount of olive oil and lemon juice, but keep the
3:1 ratio of oil to juice.  (It freezes well, so you can make
several batches at once.

He recommends a couple of teaspoons a day for two to three weeks
once or twice a year.

Index

from [mscured]


---------------------------------------
Message: 3
    Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:53:57 +0000
    From: "Karen Capozza" <kcapozza@...>
Subject: [mscured] I have good news


Hello everyone,


I have been on this site now for over a year now and this is the first time
I have experienced improvement.


I started the best bet diet in July and started Copaxone in August.  Also I
started an MS protocol thru a PHD in California.  I am taking something
called d-Lenolate which is olive leaf and a product called Regenesis.  I
used to take 25-30 pills a day and now I only take this two products with
essential oils and flora.


Ok...No definately don't think it is the Copaxone, do think the best bet
diet is helping.  I used to eat beef 3-4 times a week!!  I know it is from
the d-Lenolate.  I have had die off big time.


I am a different person in 6 weeks.  No, I still am holding onto things to
walk but I have ENERGY!!!!!  I mean I am going slow but I can go much
farther.  I can make plans and not worry that I may have to cancel them.  I
don't have that dreaded bone cold feeling in my legs and feet anymore.


No, I don't sell anything.  I actually don't care who believes it and who
doesn't.  I am better and I thank Jesus.


Before I started the d-Lenolate I called someone who wrote a testimonial to
the company.  We talked for 30 minutes or so.  He said that he really
noticed a huge burst of energy in 6 weeks.  So I decided to make a mental
note of the 6 week time line.  Yes, in 6 weeks I feel like I can think again
and my energy is back!!  I feel like I am writing a commercial.


Just wanted to let everyone know things are better.  I will keep you posted.
KC




Karen Capozza RRT,CPT

Messsage about Aspartame,
forwarded from  [CookRight] group.

  *********** STRAT FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********

----- Original Message -----
From: jans@...
To: CookRight4YourType@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 4:18 PM
Subject: [CookRight] NutraSweet/Aspartame



This is in response to "catch3" and his/her claim that all this is
false accusations.  First of all, it said it caused MS and LUPUS type
symptoms not in fact causing the true disease.
My personal expereince is quite interesting.


I had used diet drinks lightly because I have always had a problem
with low blood sugar.  Several years back my husband and I lost
weight (at the time we were just a few pounds over..mostly just out
of shape) and got into a regiment of working out and being "sugar
aware" in the foods we ate.   More and more I was choosing foods that
did not have sugar or was sweetened with Nutra Sweet.  After about a
year of doing this, I was in the best shape I had ever been in my
life.  I was buff.  Then suddenly I started getting a burning
sensation in the skin of my thighs and I felt puffy.  I started
gaining weight like crazy.

   Nothing I did seemed to effect it.  I
went to the doctor and he ran a series of tests on me.  Blood work
including thyroid tests and such.  A few months later I started
getting killer headaches.  Then I was having chronic sinus problems.
I went from 120 very lean pounds to 170 in nothing flat.  All this
despite working out religiously and countly every stinky calorie in
the world.  The headaches got so bad and blinding that they put me on
migraine medication incuding having to get shots.

This went on for a year and a half.  I was very fatigued.  I had
narcoplexy.  I scared my mother half to death because I fell asleep
talking on the phone to her.  She said she yelled in my ear for a
couple of minutes before she was able to get me to respond.
All these things the doctor said were not related to each other.
They put me on anti-depressants.  It didn't help.  They sent me to an
allergist.  They said I was allerigc to everything. I had burning
sensations in  my mouth and throat.  My skin was trashed....I had
never had acne even as a teenager.

About 7 or 8 years ago we got hooked up to the internet.  I just
went "surfing" to see what I could find.  I went to some Ironman
sites because the company I worked for did clothing for them.  I
found a link to the Aspartame claim on one of them.  I follewed the
link and I read it all.  Most of the symptoms  I had were addressed
on this site.  All I did was stop using ANYTHING that had aspartame
in it to see if that in fact could be the cause.  WOW!!!!!!!
In one month I lost 20 pounds and the headaches started going away
immediately.  The narcoplexy went away ( that was really scary).
All in all, I was a new person.

Lupus is a disease which effects the liver.  Aspartame  screws up the
liver.  MS is a nerve disease and aspartame damages the nerves.  I
don't care what that "urban legand or hoax site" says.....I know as a
matter of personal experience that Aspartame is nasty stuff.  I
wouldn't give it to my enemy much less my child or family.  I don't
think it effects everyone the same because it may depend on their
health at the time.  Also I believe that because I started using it
more because of "dieting" that I had a big jump in my usage from
previous.

I know that since then my allergies are all but gone except for a few
flowers.  I don't have migraines,skin rashes, narcoplexy or
depression.  My weight is 130....I don't work out anymore because of
injuries from a car accident. My diet is not perfect but but I am
doing pretty good all considering.  Only thing is that under no
circumstance will I sue aspartame.


Aloha, Jan


*********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***********

Agnes,

    I have taken a similar path to trying to heal.  I
have been blessed that I have had two relatively mild
experiences with MS.  I am 42 years old.

    My last flare up was three months ago.  I decided
to try some dietary changes with nutritional
supplementation and 8-10 glasses of water per day.  I
am feeling very well. Almost everything I have done
has come Ashton Embry's best guess, with a few tweaks
I have added from other research and treatment that I
have read about.  The entire regimen that I am using
is inexpensive, not extreme and seems to be working.

    If anyone is interested send me email to
wildarness@... and I will send spreadsheet with
details.

Regards,

Bill Hunsicker

    I am feeling very well

Message: 13
    Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 21:44:45 +0000
    From: "Leslie Arnold" <twowomenboxing@...>
Subject: Re: Modern Medicine


Hi Y'all;

Interestingly enough, many years ago when I lved in Boston, I had a doctor
named Robert Mendelsohn. He was an M.D. from Harvard, who was very
anti-immunizastion, and supported me not to immunize my children. Great guy.
Several years later, when I went through a divorce and very messy custody
battle, the fact that I didn't immunize my kids was held against me. Dr.
Mendelsohn wrote a letter for me to use in court. I thank him for his
efforts, and yes, I do have the privilage of raising my kids!


On a more "mscured" note, I am presently at the Ann Wigmore foundation in
New Mexico on a ten day healing journey. For the last two days, I have been
doing a watermelon fast. My symptoms have been way down.
The basis of living foods focusses on bio-available raw foods; mostly raw
foods that have been sprouted (high enzyme content) and blended (easily
digestable). They are also huge on wheatgrass juice, rejeuvillac - a
fermented wheatberry drink, and dehydrated foods. No animal products or
cooked foods at all.

The program also promotes colon health... both wheatgrass enemas and
colonics.

Drinking water is also key.

I have also participated in C.O.R.E. therapy which is kind of like cranial
sacral work, but works on getting the flow of cerebral spinal fluid to move
properly through the brain and spinal column.

It is too early to report any lasting results from this approach, but I do
believe our bodies have the power to heal themselves. If anyone has tried
ths approach, or is interested in dialoquing as I continue along this path;
let me know.

Best to all'
Leslie

This Message is cross posted from [mscured]
---------------
Message: 4
    Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:42:56 -0600
    From: "Jock McTavish" <mctavjoc@...>
Subject: chelating mercury


mega Vitamin C is said to have chelation properties. I believe it. I take
mega C. Before I had my teeth removed I was taking 30 to 50 grams/day. After
they were removed this quickly dropped to about 12 grams/day. I had my teeth
all pulled out by a regular dentist with reasonable care and not much more.

My teeth were maybe 40 % amalgam. I just didn't have fillings, I had whole
teeth made up of the stuff! They took the crumbly things and the roots out
in two sessions. First the whole back top and bottom (so I could chew a bit
on the remaining front) and then 2 weeks later, the remaining teeth. I was
really expecting a terrible mercury reaction after reading Dr. Huggins book.


But I had no ill effects whatsoever. I made such a postive improvement in
general well being that everybody commented and I felt good for the first
time in 6 years. I heartily recommend getting rid of the poison. And false
teeth are convenient, and no troubles whatsoever. And they are cheap. LOTS
cheaper than bridges and ceramics and such. False teeth get a bad rap
because of old people with shrinking skeletons and absent minds. I remember
the day my grandmother left her teeth at a restaurant! She hated them. All
hockey players have bridges and they smile fine! In my "if only" moments, I
think if only I had done this 10 or 15 years ago when the fillings of my
teen age years first began to seriously deteriorate, I might not have MS
today!


Jock

Message: 14
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 23:49:40 -0000
From: ejsant@...
Subject: Re: cured to death! - MEMORY


Hello Les,

I have regained my ability to walk and to see straight again, as there was
a point that I had the most outrageous double vision; but this is all gone.
Absolutely, meditation is critical for me and a big part of my symptom
management.

However, there are a lot of other  things that I am doing and have done to
try to rebalance myself. I have gone through a major detoxification,
drastically changed my diet
(very important), chelated mercury, removing amalgrams and other dental
work, and continually reset my structure (again very important as our
muscles do not always get a clear nerve signal to direct them appropriately
and weaknesses and strengths are not always in balance). You see Leslie I'm
GOING TO WALK away from this aspect of
my life, I believe in my heart of hearts that I have fallen victim to too
many toxins and my immune system has run out of steam and has gone haywire
and that I can, with diligence and God's blessing, rebalance it.

As a Great aside, I am an antiques dealer and today it was 98 and loads of
humidity and I packed out an entire estate; outlasted a 15 and a 30 year
old. I'm 45 and was told two years ago that I should prepare for wheels in
6 months, not bad, without any medication at all. I truly believe that we
all can do a great deal to improve.

Best wishes in your visualizations. Remember you really can see what you
wish to.

Peace,
Ed

p.s. My wife helped me with the punctuation; I'm not that smart.

Message: 7
    Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:40:28 EDT
    From: gpbb44@...
Subject: Re: "Water Cure" - Multiple Sclerosis Testimonials


I am on the best bet diet and I simply drink at least 80-120 ounces of water
a day.


Simply drinking the water after a month is going to change things for you and
it is so easy to do.

i was in a wheelchair. i walk now, with a cane.
i swim and walk and go places and have energy,


Gwen

Message: 3
    Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 10:26:29 -0000
    From: ejsant@...
Subject: Re: wheat free diet


John,  No I haven't been symptom free just have not been back to the
hospital since the exacerbation that took my ability to walk and see
in August 1999.  I have walked a long road back to where I am today.

I used to not be able to get out of bed at least 3 but most times 4
days a week.  Now I walk 4 miles almost every day.  The days I don't
walk are just too busy work wise and unfortunately I don't have the
time to walk.  There is still some tingling in my hands and feet at
times but no big deal.  My eye sight has returned to normal, visual
field, color, one image, etc..  My energy levels are greater than
before I had the severe episode in 1999.  Not that this is the end
all measurement of treatment efficacy, but the lesions in my brain
have reduced in number as well as size as identified by way of MRI.

The whole issue of getting my immune system and subsequent
neurologolical function back in balance has encompassed a great deal
changes in my lifestyle.  Diet has been a very important part.

Mostly by taking stresses away from my system.

Dental work:

I have also been
chelating mercury as well as tending to my dental issues by removing
the amalgram fillings and pulling teeth that have had root canals.

This has been very helpful.  I have just completed a liver and
gallblatter cleansing and am following a parasite cleansing protocol
currently.

I have found for me that the way back to health and a life
with minimum or no symptoms has been to rebalance my spiritual,
mental, and physical being.  This requires a great deal of dedication
and disipline and each time I deviate from what I know works my
symptoms increase (but no where near as severe as they were).

I have done all of this without any pharmaceuticals at all with the
exception of the IV cortizone while in the hospital in 1999 (what I
call my naive period).


We all need to take charge of our own care
and follow what makes us feel better.  I believe that there are many
different protocols that will help each and everyone of us, however
we all are different and I believe the cause of this immune imbalance
for each of us is just as variable as the treatment protocols.


--- In mscured@y..., "John Medaris" <JohnMedaris@R...> wrote:
> Ed- does that mean you are 2 years symptom- free or exacerbation-
free?
> Besides getting off glutin, what else have you been doing?
> John
>

Multiplsclerosis


Message: 1
    Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 05:43:39 -0000
    From: ceciliarich@...
Subject: *****JUNE 1st, RESEARCHERS FIND 13 mRNA DIFFERENCES****


  WHILE COMPARING DNA DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PEOPLE WITH MS AND PEOPLE
WITHOUT AT UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AT BUFFALO, THEY FOUND THAT PEOPLE
WITH MS HAD 13 mRNA THAT ARE INSTRUCTIONS FOR IMMUNE SYSTEM AND
INSTRUCTIONS FOR INFLAMMATION THAT PEOPLE WITHOUT MS DIDN'T HAVE.
mRNA ARE THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF PROTEIN OR INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO
BUILD PROTEIN. PROTEINS OF THE MYELIN SHEATH ARE ATTACKED BY THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM IN MS SUFFERERS. A COMMON GRAIN FUNGUS THAT ONLY GROWS
IN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE MS AND ALSO AFFECTS THE GRASSES THAT DAIRY
CATTLE EAT, CAUSES THE GRAIN AND GRASS TO MUTATE AND MAKE AN EXTRA
mRNA THAT I BELIEVE WHEN EATEN AS A BREAD OR IN MILK, TELLS SOME
PEOPLE TO GET MS. YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR EATING. MY WIFE HAS GOTTEN
OUT OF HER WHEELCHAIR NOW THAT SHE IS AWAY FROM DAIRY, AND GRASS
GRAINS AND CATTLE MEAT THAT EAT THE GRAINS. SHE IS OUT WALKING IN THE
SUN, SHE HAS LOST OVER 18 LBS AND HAS TONS OF ENERGY. JUST TRY
CHANGING YOUR LIFESTYLE FOR 6 WEEKS. SEE IF YOU DON'T FEEL BETTER.
READ ALL THE CLUES ABOUT GRAINFUNGUS, mRNA, DIET, PROTEINS, AT
http://grainfungus.tripod.com
ASHTON EMBRY THINKS I MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING!!!


WILL KEEP TRYING TO GET THIS RESEARCHED AS THE CAUSE OF MS AND WHY
PEOPLE IN CERTAIN REGIONS GET IT WHILE OTHERS DON'T.

Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:18:24 -0700
From: "Glenna" <glenna@...>
Subject: Re: B-12 questions

Rani -
I've taken IM preservative-free B-12 injections for the past 2+ years. When
I started 2+ years ago, I did a 1 CC IM B-12 injection every day for two
weeks to get my B-12 level up because it was so low. Now I do 1 CC (one IM
injection) of B-12 per week. B-12 has been like a miracle for me. We can
"tell" when I'm due for my weekly injection because I start to get fatigued
and "loopy". Just a few minutes after having the shot, I'm back to normal -
no fatigue and not "loopy". This "miraculous" effect started with my first
injection - even though the preservative in my first injection also caused
a reaction (thus I use "preservative-free B-12" now). I wish there was some
way to get my body to process B-12 without the injection! I've tried
sublinguals and they don't seem to have the same effect.
Glenna

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:34:22 EDT
From: TomLaBresh@...
Subject: Re: Re:WATER thingy?


I now recommend Three Times what the web-site suggests.
So if you are 200 lb <A HREF="http://kinsman.epix.net/water/index.htm">The
Water
Cure</A> http://kinsman.epix.net/water/index.htm
suggests drinking 100 ounces or 10 - 10 Ounces Glasses a DAY
I have been consuming 20 + Ounces an Hour
( 16 hours awake x 20 oz. = 380 Ounces a Day )
this amount is over Double what is recommended...I try for 3 x
How am I doing? Its been 3 weeks. Two weeks ago I could hardly walk
across street WITH Big Stick (cane)...
NOW I can walk our 1/2 Block carrying my Stick.
if I would EAT healthier and CUT Coffee i would be even Better!
-Tom-

(hint: Bored of Plain Water? Add Cayenne ! )

--- In mscured@y..., "Malcolm Birkenshaw" <m.birkenshaw@a...> wrote:



Hello John,
-     and all other folk that have been involved in these wheat
postings.

I have been meaning to respond to the first one, but I have been
busy, busy, busy and tomorrow never came - at least not until now.
Besides, the heat and humidity are abating, so I can add another mini-
busy, and here goes:-

The "killer" in wheat, oats, barley and rye is gluten. It "irritates"
the intestine and prevents absorption, particularly of essential
fatty acids so it was known to the ancient Greeks as fatty diarrhoea.

I have never been keen on bread (except French bread, which I was
eventually to discover is made of durum flour and contains less
gluten). Mind you, even that is no longer the best for me, but I was
diagnosed almost 30 years ago and, now I'm 68, it's only to be
expected that all sorts of little creaks will begin to appear here an
there.

But back to this gluten business. When I was diagnosed I went back
over my life, recalling those things I was doing when i was super-
fit, and what seemed to accompany any "strange" hiccups in my health.
Ah-ha, i thought. so excluded all gluten from my diet and left my
stressful job. In less than a year i was "cured", and all these years
later i am still here, having brought up my two kids single-handed.

Did anything go wrong? Ah, yes, there's the rub, i never realised
that by avoiding flour i was keeping clear of the "wicked" saturated
fatty acids - until i didn't and BLAM, the beast returned. But I
shook it free, now that I know, and am still here rattling my cage.

In fact all this was published in the book "Dangerously Healthy". You
can read the first two chapters free of charge on www.albatross-
books.co.uk, and/or I can e-mail the whole 42 charters - also free of
charge if you don't want to buy the book.

Hope I've not repeated too much stuff and have not bored you, but the
chaos and confusion that has been keeping distracted from the
postings these past weeks during the heat and humidity is another
story.

Cheers,

Malcolm.



"I used to think I could walk on water - but then got hot feet, and
discovered it  was only thin ice"

m.birkenshaw@a...

web site: www.albatross-books.co.uk for free download of "Dangerously
Healthy"

Alternatively this 350 page autobiography is also available in
paperback at less than half price  for £5.50 from Malcolm Birkenshaw.
--- End forwarded message ---

--- In mscured@y..., jdemaid@c... wrote:


Gwen

I have continued to read with interest your comments on this site.
The health update beneath must be a positive for us all although I
know what works for one doesn't neccessarily work for all.

Please tell me which diet you are on and where to get full details of
it. If it has worked for you it must be worth a try!

........to swim for an hour.........wow, wouldn't that be nice!

Jonathon.



> Anyway............
> I can't be wish washy about anything that I do, I usually have to
be
> committed 100% or is doesn't work, so far I am out of the chair and
> walking..walking with a cane and gaining strength every day. Today
I swam for
> an HOUR.
>
> Yesterday I walked for 45 minuets I can feel when I have to pee
again. Is
> that worth giving up "all the good stuff?"......YUP....
>
> I went to the neurologist yesterday for a routine visit and he did
not want
> to listen when I told him I was better and gave the diet the
credit. He would
> not even consider it.
> not even a maybe it helped a little.
>
> So anyone out there not wanting to give something up please
reconsider
> although I respect any one's decision, I also add what can it hurt
for a
> while?
>
> Gwen


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--- In mscured@y..., "ceciliarich" <ceciliarich@m...> wrote:



Dear Jonathon,
My wife has been on a wheat free diet and so have I.She has M.S. and
I do
not, but we both feel much better. She had a pretty big relapse ,
went into
a wheelchair and lost her vision, but changed her eating, and she is
walking
and driving again. The word "diet" seems to have connotations of
eating
temporarily 'til you get the results you want, but going on a wheat
free,
dairy free, red meat free has to be a way of life. Once you commit to
it,
you not only feel better, (more energy), but you save money. You can
have
corn and vegetables, fruit, fish, chicken, rice. To me it's been like
eating
at a fancy restaraunt every day.
Just learn to be a cook, pore the internet for recipes and look at the
ingredients. Read ingredients on all that processed food. I am often
in
touch with a fellow named Ashton Embry, whose son has M.S. he is a
scientist
who has studied a lot about diet. You may read his essay at
http://grainfungus.tripod.com where there is more information about
problems with wheat.
jeff

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--- In mscured@y..., TomLaBresh@a... wrote:



      You wrote:  Can anyone advise as to the cheapest method for
getting
Copaxone?



My  "Cheap" Advise...



      My Neurologist has suggested Copaxone for me.  He arranged for
me to
start the next week...THAT was two weeks ago.  After reading postings
and
encouraging others to  <A
HREF="http://members.nbci.com/kesti16/DrinkWater.HTM">Drink WATER!!!
</A>  and read info from
http://www.watercure2.com/


   I am starting to feel improvement.



      The Biggest News is from my Friend, Sylvia.  She was the one who
visited
Betty (that has overcome M.S.)   After less tha a Month of Water and
Diet,
SYLVIA walked 18 steps yesterday ON  HER  OWN.   She has been in a
Wheel-Chair for OVER a YEAR now...We are BOTH encouraged !
email her...SM7850@a...
-Tom-


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