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#689 From: jeaninethomas2000
Date: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:48 pm
Subject: New Hampshire MRSA patient
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Hi,
A reporter contacted me and is looking for a patient who acquired MRSA
in a hospital in NH and who would want to be interviewed for NH public
radio. Pls email me.
Thanks,
Jeanine

#688 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 5:54 am
Subject: Re: Update
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Wow, what a story...my advice to you is to not stress(keep it simple).
There is more to life than work. I've got a mountain of hospital bills
too. I can't even work at all because of a rare pain disease where I
can't even wear shoes, I've got student loans too. So the fact that
you even could work is a miracle.

You should see what your options are, they might let you work a little
part time and still get disability. Maybe you could learn to grade
english papers(or be a tutor) at the local community college or
something, teach guitar. Things will come around. And if they don't oh
well, remember there's more to life than the stress big city life and
9 to 5.

Jon

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "shaunhabeger" <sdhdfw@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Group!
>
> Just thought I would pop in and give a little update on my situation.
> To those of you new, or those that do not recall, my story can be
> found here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA/message/304
>
>       http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA/message/307
>
>       http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA/message/313
>
> I am still in Rapid City, with my brother. I have remained MRSA free
> to the best of my knowledge. No health insurance or disability so
> have not been to a Doctor since I left Yankton. I remained on
> Morphine until Mid July, at which time I quit...Withdrawals...ugh! lol
>
> I worked as a Night Auditor for a local hotel during Tourist Season
> (Mt. Rushmore 30 miles) April - August. While it was an "easy" job,
> it still became too much for me and I needed a break, so quit after
> the Sturgis Bike Rally http://sturgis.com/
>
> I have a close friend here that was helping to support me
> financially, but he had a third offence DUI this summer so is
> currently incarcerated. I find the need to return to work, but now I
> cannot seem to get anyone to hire me with my disability. UGH!
> Frustrating. My Disability hearing is not going to happen until
> probably JUNE of 2007!
>
> The good thing that has come of all this is I recently seem to have
> had a major spiritual awakening. I am finally at peace with my Higher
> Power whom I chose to call God.
>
> I just wanted to let you all know my current situation, that I am for
> the most part well and MRSA free, thanks to God and the good Doc's at
> Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas Texas.
>
> I keep you all in my thoughts and prayers!
>
> Blessings and Holy Christmas Days!
>
> Shaun
>

#687 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 5:55 am
Subject: Re: New Group Member
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Someone told me that you can work a little bit part time, they just
cut your disability amount back a little

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "Marina Heppner" <marina23@...> wrote:
>
> Shaun - I am sorry to hear of the ordeal you went through with MRSA.
  I hope
> you are doing better soon.
>
> With regard to your question about Social Security Disability  (SSD) and
> MRSA, I will look into that for you.  I work as a paralegal doing
SSD claims
> for clients, and I can say I have never run across a MRSA case.
However,
> what I can tell you is, in order to be eligible for SSD medically,
you have
> to be totally disabled from doing any type of work whatsoever based
on your
> age, education, training and work experience for a period of at least 12
> consecutive months.  Your condition has to meet or equal a listing
> (criteria) set up by SSA.  I am quite sure that MRSA is not a
listing in and
> of it's self.  However, SSA looks at your entire health situation,
not just
> one condition. In your case, they may also look at the recovery time
for the
> thoracic spine surgery you had ) and may have in the future) and the
side
> effects of the pain medications.  Hydrocodone and morphine can make you
> sleepy, confused, disoriented, etc. and would make it difficult for
you to
> work while taking them.
>
> I will look up in the listings to see where MRSA might fit in for
SSD.  I'll
> have to respond again next week sometime after I am back to work and can
> look up the info for you.
>
>  I have been a quiet participant in this group for several months having
> joined due to my 4 year old daughter being diagnosed with MRSA.
Thankfully,
> her case has been mild to date, and she has not had an outbreak since
> February.  I really feel for those of you who have been hospitalized
and/or
> have had IV anti-biotics to treat your cases.  My daughter's case
has been
> treatable with oral antibiotics so far.  I hope that it stays that
easy for
> us.
>
> Marina
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: MRSA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MRSA@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> shaunhabeger
>   Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:31 PM
>   To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [MRSA] New Group Member
>
>
>   Hi! I am new to the group, having been diagnosed with MRSA April of
>   this year. I was sick home in bed with flu-like symptoms for over a
>   week when my right leg swelled up. I could not walk or get out of bed.
>   I was in Dallas, TX far away from family & had no way to get to the
>   Doctor. I called an ambulance for the first time in my life and was
>   reprimanded for wasting their time and told since I had stable vital
>   signs they could not transport me, I needed to just rest and the "flu"
>   would go away.
>
>   Three weeks later my conditioned had worsened. I had swelling in my
>   testicle also was getting pnumonia. I once again called the ambulance
>   and a second time they did not want to transport me. I talked them
>   into taking me after about 30 minutes of pleading with them.
>   The Emergency Department at Presbyterian discovered I had several
>   abscesses throughout my body. Right thigh, Left testicle, Pelvis, Both
>   lungs and one which had attached itself anteriorly to my spinal cord
>   in the T-9 to T-11 area.
>
>   The ED doctors first told me most likely this was an AIDS related
>   illness, then they thought it was most likely cancer since the HIV
>   test came back neg. They did an emergency Laminectomy and spinal disc
>   decrompression, inserted 3 chest tubes to evacuate the pus. They
>   discovered this was MRSA and put me on IV Vancomyacin. I was in the
>   hospital for 6 weeks (the standard 42 day IV treatment for MRSA) , had
>   5 drains and a total of 4 chest tubes. They also opened my chest and
>   evacuated the pus in my right lung and was able to be released to go
>   to my Mothers home in SD to continue my recovery.
>
>   I have been back here since May 13th, was on ZYVOX for the first 30
>   days. I am getting around fairly well now with a walker and back
>   brace. I saw an ID doctor this past tuesday, and so far no further
>   sign of MRSA. I am hoping I will continue to be mrsa free as I need to
>   have reconstructive done on my spine before I will be without so much
>   pain. I am taking morphine and hydrocodone which has controlled the
>   pain well, but have been cutting way back on those in an attempt to
>   not be so narcotic dependant.
>
>   Now for my question. Has anyone had any experience with Social
>   Security Disability and MRSA? Presbyterian had me apply and I have
>   heard nothing back so far. I had no insurance when this all happened.
>   I can only imagine my bill at Presbyterian must be into the 100's of
>   thousands. I am concerned about finding a neurosurgeon willing to do
>   the reconstructive if I do not at least have Medicaid. I do have an
>   appointment to see one in August in Omaha, NE. I am so looking forward
>   to getting this back brace off after wearing it so long.
>   Thanks,
>   Shaun
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#686 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 5:43 am
Subject: Re: Newsweek Article on MRSA - your chance to get your voice heard
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I read the article, that one statement that CMRSA is still usually
treatable with older common antibiotics is totally false. Recent data
out from ER visits state that most of the walk-ins to the ER's are now
classified as MRSA (probably resistant). You could probably pull that
data from medicalnewstoday.com and searching by keywords MRSA hospital
emergency. Just my opinion, I could be wrong but memory serves.

I did have C. Diff, BTW much much worse than MRSA. Count yourself
lucky if you didn't get the C. Diff bug from all the antibiotics.

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "Efrat Baler-Moses" <ef4art@...> wrote:
>
> This is our chance to sound off.
>
> In the Newsweek issue that is coming out next week  there is an
article "Old
> Bugs Learn some new Tricks".
>
> MRSA is one of the bugs mentioned but the language of the article is so
> tepid it seems as though MRSA is devastating only to an "unlucky
few" and
> that hospitals are trying to "contain the spread of MRSA".
>
>
>
> My suggestion is to write a letter to the editor. I am going to try,
I know
> that there is no guarantee they will print it but maybe if they get
a lot of
> mail they will think of following up with a more in depth story.
>
> If you are on other support MRSA groups let them know as well.
>
>
>
> You can read the article at:
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15994167/site/newsweek/
>
>
>
> Letters can be sent as follows (they must include name, address and
daytime
> phone number):
>
>
>
> letters@...
>
>
>
> Mail:  P.O Box 2120
>
> Radio City Station
>
> New York, NY 10101-2120
>
>
>
> Faxed 212-445-4120
>
>
>
> Effi
>
> ­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­
>

#685 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 5:26 am
Subject: Re: Perhaps you will find what you need here ...
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This is interesting seems to be for cleaning the house. I've been
using a silver spray from the health food store that you can put on
the body, but I don't know the effectiveness of it in relation to
honey and other topicals. Would like to see studies comparing these.


Staph Attack for Infection Prevention
By Christina | Related entries in MRSA, MRSA in the U.S., Infection
Prevention

staph attackStaph Attack is a fairly new product on the market, and is
a silver-based broad spectrum disinfectant and deodorizer being
marketed to hospitals and institutions. Tulsa County Jail is using it:

According to Tulsa County Sheriff, Stanley Glanz, "We have been
fighting Staph infections for some time now, and in our best efforts
using previous products, we were unable to contain or stop the
presence of MRSA. Since we started using Staph Attack two months ago,
we have not had one new case of bacterial infection, including MRSA.
The fact that Staph Attack is non-toxic and doesn't require the use of
gloves or masks during application has been a great cost saving
benefit and is far more convenient to use."

Features:

     *
       Kills bacteria, including MRSA, in 2 minutes.
     *
       Low price

Benefits:

     *
       Broad spectrum - kills bacteria, fungus and viruses
     *
       Non Toxic
     *
       Will not cause greater antibiotic resistance

How does it work? Silver dihydrogen citrate (SDC), is an
electrolytically generated source of stabilized ionic silver. In one
of the mechanisms of action, the bacteria views the molecule as a food
source, and once the organism consumes it, SDC destroys the bacteria
by disabling proteins and halting its metabolic and reproductive
functions. SDC is colorless, odorless, tasteless, non-caustic and
formulates well with other compounds.

Staph Attack is available at Enviroguardtech for $9.95 a bottle, and
can be purchased in bulk as well.
--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "vanillabc" <sunshine_bc@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm in Canada (Vancouver area) and I have come across a couple of
> links that may be useful to you folks in the USA.
>
> http://www.mrsanotes.com/
>
> http://www.ctcps.org/hospital.html
>
> Dee - Moderator
> MRSA2006 - Spread the word ... not the infection
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA2006/
>

#684 From: jeaninethomas2000
Date: Thu Dec 7, 2006 2:25 pm
Subject: MRSA Screening and Reporting Legislation
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Dear Effi and Group,
Thanks Effi for reminding the group that I have repeatedly sent out
information on how to get legislation going for reporting MRSA
infection rates and MRSA screening in your state. This is a state by
state issue and not national. I am currently working on new
legislation that will be introduced in the Illinois General Assembly
in January for MRSA screening by IL hospitals and last January I
introduced a bill for universal screening. IL was the first state to
pass  a Hospital Report Card Act in 2004 and now 6 other states have
pased legislation and 30 other states have pending legislation. To
check the status of your state go to the Consumer Unions website.
Three other states will be introducing MRSA screening legislation
besides IL, they are MD, NY and NJ. There might be more. Most are
calling for the use of the SHEA Guideline ( google SHEA Guideline
and it will pull up) and this is an approach to control MRSA and VRE
( the same approach used in N. Europe) and all "high risk patients"
are screened , put in isolation and decolonized when admitted. This
is an evidence-based proven approach. These are the steps I
recommend to get things going in your state:
1. Write a letter to your district state senator and state rep.
telling them about the MRSA epidemic ( all states are at epidemic
levels) and request a meeting. Your district legislator is more
willing to do something for you because you vote them in office.
2. Ask them if there are any pending bills or legislation and give
them info on MRSA so they can understand the issue. You will have to
educate them. Ask them if they will sponsor legislation for
reporting MRSA rates and screening. I can give you copies of other
states legislation. Most legislators do not even know we have a
public health disaster happening with MRSA.
3. Find out who is the state House and Senate chairs of the health
committes and  contact them for a meeting.
4. The big problem that I have found is with the hospital
associations and state public health
departments, they still want to cover this disease up. That is why
it is important to get "legislative champions" on your side who will
put this disease into the spotlight.
5. I am here to help you in any way, please feel free to contact me
and my website is mrsasurvivors.org. We have to push state by state
to make this happen! Now is the time to meet with legislators as
they will be submitting bills for the new legislative session in
January and Febuary.
Jeanine Thomas
Founder
MRSA Survivors network

#683 From: "shaunhabeger" <sdhdfw@...>
Date: Wed Dec 6, 2006 10:53 pm
Subject: Update
shaunhabeger
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Hello Group!

Just thought I would pop in and give a little update on my situation.
To those of you new, or those that do not recall, my story can be
found here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA/message/304

       http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA/message/307

       http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA/message/313

I am still in Rapid City, with my brother. I have remained MRSA free
to the best of my knowledge. No health insurance or disability so
have not been to a Doctor since I left Yankton. I remained on
Morphine until Mid July, at which time I quit...Withdrawals...ugh! lol

I worked as a Night Auditor for a local hotel during Tourist Season
(Mt. Rushmore 30 miles) April - August. While it was an "easy" job,
it still became too much for me and I needed a break, so quit after
the Sturgis Bike Rally http://sturgis.com/

I have a close friend here that was helping to support me
financially, but he had a third offence DUI this summer so is
currently incarcerated. I find the need to return to work, but now I
cannot seem to get anyone to hire me with my disability. UGH!
Frustrating. My Disability hearing is not going to happen until
probably JUNE of 2007!

The good thing that has come of all this is I recently seem to have
had a major spiritual awakening. I am finally at peace with my Higher
Power whom I chose to call God.

I just wanted to let you all know my current situation, that I am for
the most part well and MRSA free, thanks to God and the good Doc's at
Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas Texas.

I keep you all in my thoughts and prayers!

Blessings and Holy Christmas Days!

Shaun

#682 From: "Efrat Baler-Moses" <ef4art@...>
Date: Wed Dec 6, 2006 6:10 pm
Subject: Newsweek Article on MRSA - your chance to get your voice heard
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This is our chance to sound off.

In the Newsweek issue that is coming out next week  there is an article “Old Bugs Learn some new Tricks”.

MRSA is one of the bugs mentioned but the language of the article is so tepid it seems as though MRSA is devastating only to an “unlucky few” and that hospitals are trying to “contain the spread of MRSA”.

 

My suggestion is to write a letter to the editor. I am going to try, I know that there is no guarantee they will print it but maybe if they get a lot of mail they will think of following up with a more in depth story.

If you are on other support MRSA groups let them know as well.

 

You can read the article at:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15994167/site/newsweek/

 

Letters can be sent as follows (they must include name, address and daytime phone number):

 

letters@...

 

Mail:  P.O Box 2120

Radio City Station

New York, NY 10101-2120

 

Faxed 212-445-4120

 

Effi

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#681 From: "vanillabc" <sunshine_bc@...>
Date: Wed Dec 6, 2006 10:48 am
Subject: Perhaps you will find what you need here ...
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Hi all,

I'm in Canada (Vancouver area) and I have come across a couple of
links that may be useful to you folks in the USA.

http://www.mrsanotes.com/

http://www.ctcps.org/hospital.html

Dee - Moderator
MRSA2006 - Spread the word ... not the infection
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRSA2006/

#680 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Wed Dec 6, 2006 8:05 am
Subject: Re: Hello and Help
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Great info thanks, I live in California...don't know if we have a
report card act. But I do know only one state has released infection
rates at hospitals in the USA. Maybe if someone knows a lawyer they
can send a copy of that England article....

Jon

BTW...I've had about 4 different sores on my skin that looked like I
was getting MRSA again...they wanted to put me on antibiotics and each
time I said no. I've figured out that I have a skin condition where if
I get injured and cover the wound or move around and sweat my skin
gets irritated...anyways. I think in your gut instinct you will know
when somethings unusual. For me it was the fact that, when I had real
MRSA, the boil started rising out of the skin like a volcano like, and
got warm. These other things I've had never developed a lump...just
something to think about cause I would have gone on antibiotics 4-5
more times. Now I'm normally really aggressive with various treatments
  elevation of limb etc. etc...like I'm the first to admit I don't know
everything but I keep learning more. Good place for those interested
is medicalnewstoday.com you can sign up for MRSA updates. You can also
search archives under MRSA.


--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "Efrat Baler-Moses" <ef4art@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Jon,
>
>
>
> Gosh – we have gone over exactly this issue so many times before in the
> group!
>
> Still nothing.
>
> As someone said here in the past -  lots of the people on our group
are too
> busy or tired from their own ordeal to start organizing and writing.
>
> (You should go onto the Yahoo group site itself and look back at the
emails)
>
>
>
> If you are interested to join an existing advocate group/person look up
> http://www.mrsasurvivors.org/
>
> Jeanine Thomas who is behind this site has lobbied (successfully)
and is an
> advocate for the "Hospital Report Card Act". Though many states have
the law
> that Hospitals have to publish their infections rate – they don't!
>
> That is one of the laws/acts that each state should take. You should
find
> out if your state has this act or hasn't implemented it yet (which
is the
> case in some states).
>
>
>
> Another interesting development is overseas in England where a loop
hole was
> found. They believe that the minute hospitals are sued successfully
there
> will be a change:
>
> Here is an excerpt from the article on:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6148546.stm
>
>
>
> "But lawyers have found it hard to win cases as clinical negligence
claims
> require causation to be established which is next to impossible with
MRSA
> because of a lack of proof over exactly where, when and how the
infection
> was contracted.
>
> Cases that have reached court tend to be about the treatment a patient
> received once they got MRSA rather than over catching MRSA.
>
> There have only been a handful of settlements - seven involving
> hospital-acquired infections in England from April 2002 to March
2006 - and
> no admission of responsibility for causing MRSA has been made.
>
>
>
> Disputes
>
> However, solicitors now believe the tide may be changing after they
started
> adopting a different approach.
>
> Instead of relying solely on the traditional clinical negligence
argument,
> they have started pursuing the NHS [National Health Service] by using
> legislation more common to industrial disputes.
>
> Control of Substances Harmful to Health (COSHH) requires employers to
> control exposure to hazardous substances to prevent ill health.
>
> Lawyers have argued MRSA comes under such a definition and if it
applies to
> staff it should also apply to patients in hospitals.
>
> The first breakthrough was in July 2005 when Kitty Cope, a pensioner
from
> Bridgend in Wales, won compensation when she got MRSA after having a hip
> replacement."
>
>
>
> Class action suites were brought up her in the past as an idea, who
knows
> maybe we can all sue the Department of Health for neglecting to control
> exposure to hazardous substances.
>
> Anyone knows lawyers who would be interested??
>
> Even if a class action suit doesn't succeed or doesn't go to trial -
it will
> create a media stir and get the government and hospitals scared and
moving.
>
>
>
> Effi
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
>
> From: MRSA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MRSA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon
>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:42 PM
>
> To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help
>
>
>
> Yes, that's awesome, I love to see people get all fired up... I'd like
>
> to send a letter to barabara boxer myself, do you have a generic
>
> letter that I can sign and mail if so email it to me directly at
>
> jrueus@... I'd like to see someone form a union, sort of like a
>
> ironworker, or electricians, supermarket union. But a union that
>
> protects patients rights and is a patient advocate group. Since the
>
> government is clamping down on the rights of patients to file
>
> lawsuits, we need a patient's union with strong political lobbying,
>
> and high media presence following the leader of the union so the
>
> healthcare industry cannot try to mess with the leader(sort of like
>
> famous union AFOL leaders, etc). Can't remember if it was you but
>
> someone on here was circulating a thing to sign from the consumers
>
> union on MRSA. I didn't know if it was spam or not so I didn't sign
>
> it. But the other day I turned on ABC nightline or something like that
>
> and a leader from the consumers union was on their talking about MRSA
>
> and how one state, hospitals have been forced to release all their
>
> infection rates...but only one. And whats more an RN was on their too
>
> who had a 9 month MRSA infection from a simple 1 day surgery. She blew
>
> the whistle! one of their own actually stood up. And, guess what she
>
> said most people they would say, "ohhh you just have an infection and
>
> your going to be in the hospital for just a few days Kay?"" Not her
>
> she was an RN and she knew, she got out and went to the media. Since
>
> then they have had to put special liners on their blood pressure cuffs
>
> (most of the MRSA is right on the cuff when you enter the hospital).
>
> They have stopped shaving some patients. Other things.
>
>
>
> Also I had a problem here when my old doctor refused to give me my own
>
> medical records. I told him I was going to file a complaint with the
>
> insurance licensing board, consumers union, civil rights, American
>
> medical association, HMO, and the california HIPPA, I had an attorney
>
> write him a letter, I called him 20 times and he still refused.
>
> Finally I went in and he gave me the records. I've experienced other
>
> doctors that are arrogant, egocentric, pompose and very cruel ruining
>
> peoples lives for disorders that they would say are neuro psyciatric
>
> and mental health issues. Like fibromylalgia (which was recently
>
> discovered to be genetic and real), erythromelalgia, IBS (which just a
>
> few months ago they discovered the first genetic link to a sodium
>
> channel mutation), and schiezeprinia (sorry bout spelling), which they
>
> just discovered involves a simple misarrangement in the area of the
>
> brain that they are just learning to image. And reflex sympathetic
>
> dystrophy a disease more painful than cancer where you brush your
>
> hands along their skin and the pain is bigger than anything. But since
>
> doctors can't see your pain, they want to refer you to mental health.
>
> However...most of these people have real pain.
>
>
>
> Another thing, you can't mention names of doctors directly, or least
>
> your not supposed to, because its libel. But there were websites set
>
> up all over to grade your university professor many of them allow
>
> comments. Their is a site to grade your doctor and I encourage all of
>
> you to do so. I think its called healthcheck.com. They supposidly also
>
> send undercover, there are probably other sites.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, todd martin <Tmimpsf@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi Jon~~~~
>
> >
>
> > I had a predisosed condition that made me suseptible to MRSA. I
>
> have used 70% rubbing alchohol applied with a cotton ball almost
>
> everyday since being a teenager and it has never burned my skin.
>
> Phisoderm Body wash and Facial wash were the only products (yes I had
>
> to use other soaps as well as hibiclens) that helped keep my
>
> break-outs almost non existant. Dr's thought I was crazy but when I
>
> was unable to afford the Phisoderm and had to use others my skin would
>
> once again erupt.
>
> > I take the philosopy of telling people on thei site what has
>
> worked for me and as far as clinical trials and other points of
>
> reference I send them the link to read and decide for themselves.
>
> Stating so called remedies verbatim comes across to a reader as if you
>
> actually had first hand experience or observation of its efficacy.
>
> > Anti-microbial resistance can be very quick to mutate and
>
> researchers are still fumbling for solutions and answers to
>
> transmission , containment and eradication.
>
> > I can only say from my 4.5 year experience that many things (even
>
> published by the cdc ) do not make sense.
>
> > I am working w/ California Pacific Medical Center and UCSF to try
>
> to comeup w data by Feb That show commonalities of Ca-MRsa.
>
> > I have been asking folks in this site to share thier stories w/ me
>
> but have gotten little response.
>
> > Last night I wrote to Barbara Boxer to pressure the cdc and City
>
> of SF to require mandatory reporting of MRSA and track its recurrence.
>
> > Many believe it is resistant to Mucuripone, septra, quineolones ,
>
> cephlasporines, and that vancomicyn combined with tyglecil are the
>
> only anti-biotic therapies that will work.
>
> > I push for probiotic , Dr Natura colon cleanse , phage therapy and
>
> diet and hygine to be what worked for me----I believe once colonised
>
> on the skin it hides in the stomach intestines and bladder
>
> ---resurfacing when conditions become optimal.
>
> > I wish people would at least try to convey where they believe they
>
> contracted this microbe and if they can say they have experienced
>
> recurrence
>
> > I highly suggest anyone suffering from this affliction begin to
>
> keep a daily diary
>
> > I have every day documented since I contracted this on Aug 12 2002
>
> > DR's hospitals meds , every one i talked to on the phone , people
>
> i came into contact w, diet , symptoms conditions , secondary
>
> infections, medical medicare ssi human rights commission, dept of
>
> public health , Japan and Austrailia web sites
>
> >
>
> > what I still find most appalling is that Dr's here could not help
>
> me because they were kept in the dark just as much as patients. From
>
> Aug 2002- Feb 2003 there were only 2 TWO web sites and you had to type
>
> out the whole thing . I knew what I had and about vancomicyn by Nov
>
> 2002 but fell on deaf ears
>
> > I have been free of the microbe since april 2006 and have begun to
>
> put my life back together, having lost everything and being homeless
>
> for 3 years . I now have my own apt again and have started Paralegal
>
> studies and have been able to re connect w/ family and friends some
>
> whom I have not seen in 6 years
>
> > This is the first holiday season in 5 that I am not alone!
>
> > Last year I was calling a dear friend crying saying I am so lonely
>
> I don't know how to deal w/ this emotion. Lonliness combined with fear
>
> and desperation were quite hard to get a grip on . but Here I am
>
> > I am very dedicated to helping anyone so that they may not suffer
>
> the hurdles or pitfalls I sustained .
>
> > Todd
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Jon <jrueus@> wrote:
>
> > Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a
>
> great idea
>
> > except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
>
> > when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
>
> > way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
>
> > area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
>
> > developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
>
> > humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
>
> > and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
>
> > discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
>
> > water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
>
> > through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
>
> > wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
>
> > to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
>
> > careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
>
> > you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.
>
> >
>
> > From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
>
> > gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
>
> > never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
>
> > hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
>
> > will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.
>
> >
>
> > Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
>
> > back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.
>
> >
>
> > I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.
>
> >
>
> > Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
>
> > (but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
>
> > bark proved in clinical trails.
>
> >
>
> > Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
>
> > pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
>
> > honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
>
> > enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
>
> > Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
>
> > applicator and dispose of it.
>
> >
>
> > Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
>
> > has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
>
> > recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
>
> > interest.
>
> >
>
> > --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
>
> > >
>
> > > I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
>
> > > as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
>
> > > dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
>
> > > skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
>
> > > hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
>
> > > to anti-bacterials.
>
> > > Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > Todd
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
>
> > > > story:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
>
> > > flush.
>
> > > > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
>
> > > > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
>
> > > > went away.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
>
> > > been
>
> > > > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
>
> > > infection
>
> > > > returning.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
>
> > > that
>
> > > > it is related.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
>
> > > > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash
for my
>
> > > > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
>
> > > > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
>
> > > 2ce
>
> > > > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
>
> > > > directions to a tee.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
>
> > > > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in
order
>
> > > > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able
to get
>
> > > > rid of it for good?
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Thanks!
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
>
> > Watch your words, for they become actions.
>
> > Watch your actions, for they become habits.
>
> > Watch your habits, for they become character.
>
> > Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ---------------------------------
>
> > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
>
> >
>

#679 From: "Efrat Baler-Moses" <ef4art@...>
Date: Wed Dec 6, 2006 2:41 am
Subject: RE: Re: Hello and Help
ef4art
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Dear Jon,

 

Gosh – we have gone over exactly this issue so many times before in the group!

Still nothing.

As someone said here in the past -  lots of the people on our group are too busy or tired from their own ordeal to start organizing and writing.

(You should go onto the Yahoo group site itself and look back at the emails)

 

If you are interested to join an existing advocate group/person look up http://www.mrsasurvivors.org/

Jeanine Thomas who is behind this site has lobbied (successfully) and is an advocate for the "Hospital Report Card Act". Though many states have the law that Hospitals have to publish their infections rate – they don’t!

That is one of the laws/acts that each state should take. You should find out if your state has this act or hasn’t implemented it yet (which is the case in some states).

 

Another interesting development is overseas in England where a loop hole was found. They believe that the minute hospitals are sued successfully there will be a change:

Here is an excerpt from the article on: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6148546.stm

 

"But lawyers have found it hard to win cases as clinical negligence claims require causation to be established which is next to impossible with MRSA because of a lack of proof over exactly where, when and how the infection was contracted.

Cases that have reached court tend to be about the treatment a patient received once they got MRSA rather than over catching MRSA.

There have only been a handful of settlements - seven involving hospital-acquired infections in England from April 2002 to March 2006 - and no admission of responsibility for causing MRSA has been made.

 

Disputes

However, solicitors now believe the tide may be changing after they started adopting a different approach.

Instead of relying solely on the traditional clinical negligence argument, they have started pursuing the NHS [National Health Service] by using legislation more common to industrial disputes.

Control of Substances Harmful to Health (COSHH) requires employers to control exposure to hazardous substances to prevent ill health.

Lawyers have argued MRSA comes under such a definition and if it applies to staff it should also apply to patients in hospitals.

The first breakthrough was in July 2005 when Kitty Cope, a pensioner from Bridgend in Wales, won compensation when she got MRSA after having a hip replacement."

 

Class action suites were brought up her in the past as an idea, who knows maybe we can all sue the Department of Health for neglecting to control exposure to hazardous substances.

Anyone knows lawyers who would be interested??

Even if a class action suit doesn’t succeed or doesn’t go to trial - it will create a media stir and get the government and hospitals scared and moving.

 

Effi

 

________________________________________

From: MRSA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MRSA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon

Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:42 PM

To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help

 

Yes, that’s awesome, I love to see people get all fired up... I'd like

to send a letter to barabara boxer myself, do you have a generic

letter that I can sign and mail if so email it to me directly at

jrueus@.... I'd like to see someone form a union, sort of like a

ironworker, or electricians, supermarket union. But a union that

protects patients rights and is a patient advocate group. Since the

government is clamping down on the rights of patients to file

lawsuits, we need a patient's union with strong political lobbying,

and high media presence following the leader of the union so the

healthcare industry cannot try to mess with the leader(sort of like

famous union AFOL leaders, etc). Can't remember if it was you but

someone on here was circulating a thing to sign from the consumers

union on MRSA. I didn't know if it was spam or not so I didn't sign

it. But the other day I turned on ABC nightline or something like that

and a leader from the consumers union was on their talking about MRSA

and how one state, hospitals have been forced to release all their

infection rates...but only one. And whats more an RN was on their too

who had a 9 month MRSA infection from a simple 1 day surgery. She blew

the whistle! one of their own actually stood up. And, guess what she

said most people they would say, "ohhh you just have an infection and

your going to be in the hospital for just a few days Kay?"" Not her

she was an RN and she knew, she got out and went to the media. Since

then they have had to put special liners on their blood pressure cuffs

(most of the MRSA is right on the cuff when you enter the hospital).

They have stopped shaving some patients. Other things.

 

Also I had a problem here when my old doctor refused to give me my own

medical records. I told him I was going to file a complaint with the

insurance licensing board, consumers union, civil rights, American

medical association, HMO, and the california HIPPA, I had an attorney

write him a letter, I called him 20 times and he still refused.

Finally I went in and he gave me the records. I've experienced other

doctors that are arrogant, egocentric, pompose and very cruel ruining

peoples lives for disorders that they would say are neuro psyciatric

and mental health issues. Like fibromylalgia (which was recently

discovered to be genetic and real), erythromelalgia, IBS (which just a

few months ago they discovered the first genetic link to a sodium

channel mutation), and schiezeprinia (sorry bout spelling), which they

just discovered involves a simple misarrangement in the area of the

brain that they are just learning to image. And reflex sympathetic

dystrophy a disease more painful than cancer where you brush your

hands along their skin and the pain is bigger than anything. But since

doctors can't see your pain, they want to refer you to mental health.

However...most of these people have real pain.

 

Another thing, you can't mention names of doctors directly, or least

your not supposed to, because its libel. But there were websites set

up all over to grade your university professor many of them allow

comments. Their is a site to grade your doctor and I encourage all of

you to do so. I think its called healthcheck.com. They supposidly also

send undercover, there are probably other sites.

 

Jon

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, todd martin <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:

> 

> Hi Jon~~~~

>

> I had a predisosed condition that made me suseptible to MRSA. I

have used 70% rubbing alchohol applied with a cotton ball almost

everyday since being a teenager and it has never burned my skin.

Phisoderm Body wash and Facial wash were the only products (yes I had

to use other soaps as well as hibiclens) that helped keep my

break-outs almost non existant. Dr's thought I was crazy but when I

was unable to afford the Phisoderm and had to use others my skin would

once again erupt.

> I take the philosopy of telling people on thei site what has

worked for me and as far as clinical trials and other points of

reference I send them the link to read and decide for themselves.

Stating so called remedies verbatim comes across to a reader as if you

actually had first hand experience or observation of its efficacy.

> Anti-microbial resistance can be very quick to mutate and

researchers are still fumbling for solutions and answers to

transmission , containment and eradication.

> I can only say from my 4.5 year experience that many things (even

published by the cdc ) do not make sense.

> I am working w/ California Pacific Medical Center and UCSF to try

to comeup w data by Feb That show commonalities of Ca-MRsa.

> I have been asking folks in this site to share thier stories w/ me

but have gotten little response.

> Last night I wrote to Barbara Boxer to pressure the cdc and City

of SF to require mandatory reporting of MRSA and track its recurrence.

> Many believe it is resistant to Mucuripone, septra, quineolones ,

cephlasporines, and that vancomicyn combined with tyglecil are the

only anti-biotic therapies that will work.

> I push for probiotic , Dr Natura colon cleanse , phage therapy and

diet and hygine to be what worked for me----I believe once colonised

on the skin it hides in the stomach intestines and bladder

---resurfacing when conditions become optimal.

> I wish people would at least try to convey where they believe they

contracted this microbe and if they can say they have experienced

recurrence

> I highly suggest anyone suffering from this affliction begin to

keep a daily diary

> I have every day documented since I contracted this on Aug 12 2002

> DR's hospitals meds , every one i talked to on the phone , people

i came into contact w, diet , symptoms conditions , secondary

infections, medical medicare ssi human rights commission, dept of

public health , Japan and Austrailia web sites

>

> what I still find most appalling is that Dr's here could not help

me because they were kept in the dark just as much as patients. From

Aug 2002- Feb 2003 there were only 2 TWO web sites and you had to type

out the whole thing . I knew what I had and about vancomicyn by Nov

2002 but fell on deaf ears

> I have been free of the microbe since april 2006 and have begun to

put my life back together, having lost everything and being homeless

for 3 years . I now have my own apt again and have started Paralegal

studies and have been able to re connect w/ family and friends some

whom I have not seen in 6 years

> This is the first holiday season in 5 that I am not alone!

> Last year I was calling a dear friend crying saying I am so lonely

I don't know how to deal w/ this emotion. Lonliness combined with fear

and desperation were quite hard to get a grip on . but Here I am

> I am very dedicated to helping anyone so that they may not suffer

the hurdles or pitfalls I sustained .

> Todd

>

>

> Jon <jrueus@...> wrote:

> Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a

great idea

> except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly

> when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One

> way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg

> area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem

> developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in

> humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times

> and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good

> discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:

> water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"

> through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your

> wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting

> to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very

> careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning

> you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.

>

> From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most

> gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I

> never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with

> hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it

> will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.

>

> Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the

> back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.

>

> I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.

>

> Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet

> (but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine

> bark proved in clinical trails.

>

> Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search

> pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the

> honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its

> enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.

> Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab

> applicator and dispose of it.

>

> Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim

> has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the

> recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of

> interest.

>

> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~

> >

> > I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"

> > as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely

> > dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the

> > skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and

> > hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed

> > to anti-bacterials.

> > Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.

> > Thanks

> > Todd

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my

> > > story:

> > >

> > > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus

> > flush.

> > > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary

> > > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It

> > > went away.

> > >

> > > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have

> > been

> > > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the

> > infection

> > > returning.

> > >

> > > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think

> > that

> > > it is related.

> > >

> > > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He

> > > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my

> > > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put

> > > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin

> > 2ce

> > > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.

> > >

> > > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors

> > > directions to a tee.

> > >

> > > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.

> > >

> > > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the

> > > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order

> > > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!

> > >

> > > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get

> > > rid of it for good?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Watch your thoughts, for they become words.

> Watch your words, for they become actions.

> Watch your actions, for they become habits.

> Watch your habits, for they become character.

> Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

> 


#678 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Hello and Help
jrueus
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Send Email Send Email
 
Yes, thats awesome, I love to see people get all fired up... I'd like
to send a letter to barabara boxer myself, do you have a generic
letter that I can sign and mail if so email it to me directly at
jrueus@.... I'd like to see someone form a union, sort of like a
ironworker, or electricians, supermarket union. But a union that
protects patients rights and is a patient advocate group. Since the
government is clamping down on the rights of patients to file
lawsuits, we need a patient's union with strong political lobbying,
and high media presence following the leader of the union so the
healthcare industry cannot try to mess with the leader(sort of like
famous union AFOL leaders, etc).  Can't remember if it was you but
someone on here was circulating a thing to sign from the consumers
union on MRSA. I didn't know if it was spam or not so I didn't sign
it. But the other day I turned on ABC nightline or something like that
and a leader from the consumers union was on their talking about MRSA
and how one state, hospitals have been forced to release all their
infection rates...but only one. And whats more an RN was on their too
who had a 9 month MRSA infection from a simple 1 day surgery. She blew
the whistle! one of their own actually stood up. And, guess what she
said most people they would say, "ohhh you just have an infection and
your going to be in the hospital for just a few days Kay?"" Not her
she was an RN and she knew, she got out and went to the media. Since
then they have had to put special liners on their blood pressure cuffs
(most of the MRSA is right on the cuff when you enter the hospital).
They have stopped shaving some patients. Other things.

Also I had a problem here when my old doctor refused to give me my own
medical records. I told him I was going to file a complaint with the
insurance licensing board, consumers union, civil rights, American
medical association, HMO, and the california HIPPA, I had an attorney
write him a letter, I called him 20 times and he still refused.
Finally I went in and he gave me the records. I've experienced other
doctors that are arrogant, egocentric, pompose and very cruel ruining
peoples lives for disorders that they would say are neuro psyciatric
and mental health issues. Like fibromylalgia (which was recently
discovered to be genetic and real), erythromelalgia, IBS (which just a
few months ago they discovered the first genetic link to a sodium
channel mutation), and schiezeprinia (sorry bout spelling), which they
just discovered involves a simple misarrangement in the area of the
brain that they are just learning to image. And reflex sympathetic
dystrophy a disease more painful than cancer where you brush your
hands along their skin and the pain is bigger than anything. But since
doctors can't see your pain, they want to refer you to mental health.
However...most of these people have real pain.

Another thing, you can't mention names of doctors directly, or least
your not supposed to, because its libel. But there were websites set
up all over to grade your university professor many of them allow
comments. Their is a site to grade your doctor and I encourage all of
you to do so. I think its called healthcheck.com. They supposidly also
send undercover, there are probably other sites.

Jon
--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, todd martin <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jon~~~~
>
>   I had a predisosed condition that made me suseptible to MRSA. I
have used 70% rubbing alchohol applied with a cotton ball almost
everyday since being a teenager and it has never burned my skin.
Phisoderm Body wash and Facial wash were the only products (yes I had
to use other soaps as well as hibiclens) that helped keep my
break-outs almost non existant. Dr's thought I was crazy but when I
was unable to afford the Phisoderm and had to use others my skin would
once again erupt.
>   I take the philosopy of telling people on thei site what has
worked for me and as far as clinical trials and other points of
reference I send them the link to read and decide for themselves.
Stating so called remedies verbatim comes across to a reader as if you
actually had first hand experience or observation of its efficacy.
>   Anti-microbial resistance can be very quick to mutate and
researchers are still fumbling for solutions and answers to
transmission , containment and eradication.
>   I can only say from my 4.5 year experience that many things (even
published by the cdc ) do not make sense.
>   I am working w/ California Pacific Medical Center and UCSF to try
to comeup w data by Feb That show commonalities of Ca-MRsa.
>   I have been asking folks in this site to share thier stories w/ me
but have gotten little response.
>   Last night  I wrote to Barbara Boxer to pressure the cdc and City
of SF to require mandatory  reporting of MRSA and track its recurrence.
>   Many believe it is resistant to Mucuripone, septra, quineolones ,
cephlasporines, and that vancomicyn combined with tyglecil are the
only anti-biotic therapies that will work.
>   I push for probiotic , Dr Natura colon cleanse , phage therapy and
diet and hygine to be what worked for me----I believe once colonised
on the skin it hides in the stomach intestines and bladder
---resurfacing when conditions become optimal.
>   I wish people would at least try to convey where they believe they
contracted this microbe and if they can say they have experienced
recurrence
>   I highly suggest anyone suffering from this affliction begin to
keep a daily diary
>   I have every day documented since I contracted this on Aug 12 2002
>   DR's hospitals meds , every one i talked to on the phone , people
i came into contact w, diet , symptoms conditions , secondary
infections, medical medicare ssi human rights commission, dept of
public health , Japan and Austrailia web sites
>
>   what I still find most appalling is that Dr's here could not help
me because they were kept in the dark just as much as patients. From
Aug 2002- Feb 2003 there were only 2 TWO web sites and you had to type
out the whole thing . I knew what I had and about vancomicyn by Nov
2002 but fell on deaf ears
>   I have been free of the microbe since april 2006 and have begun to
put my life back together, having lost everything and being homeless
for 3 years . I now have my own apt again and have started Paralegal
studies and have been able to re connect w/ family and friends some
whom I have not seen in 6 years
>   This is the first holiday season in 5 that I am not alone!
>   Last year I was calling a dear friend crying saying I am so lonely
I don't know how to deal w/ this emotion. Lonliness combined with fear
and desperation were quite hard to get a grip on . but Here I am
>   I am very dedicated to helping anyone so that they may not suffer
the hurdles or pitfalls I sustained .
>   Todd
>
>
> Jon <jrueus@...> wrote:
>           Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a
great idea
> except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
> when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
> way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
> area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
> developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
> humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
> and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
> discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
> water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
> through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
> wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
> to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
> careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
> you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.
>
> From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
> gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
> never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
> hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
> will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.
>
> Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
> back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.
>
> I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.
>
> Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
> (but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
> bark proved in clinical trails.
>
> Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
> pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
> honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
> enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
> Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
> applicator and dispose of it.
>
> Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
> has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
> recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
> interest.
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
> >
> > I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> > as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> > dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> > skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> > hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> > to anti-bacterials.
> > Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> > Thanks
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
> > > story:
> > >
> > > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> > flush.
> > > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
> > > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
> > > went away.
> > >
> > > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
> > been
> > > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> > infection
> > > returning.
> > >
> > > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> > that
> > > it is related.
> > >
> > > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
> > > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> > 2ce
> > > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> > >
> > > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
> > > directions to a tee.
> > >
> > > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> > >
> > > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> > >
> > > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > > rid of it for good?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
> Watch your words, for they become actions.
> Watch your actions, for they become habits.
> Watch your habits, for they become character.
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#677 From: todd martin <Tmimpsf@...>
Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 1:41 am
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#676 From: todd martin <Tmimpsf@...>
Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 1:25 am
Subject: WHO | Antimicrobial resistance/treatments /pregnancies /tracking / drug that work /antibacterial or alchohol based
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1. World Health Org
 
 
 
2. alchohol vs antibacterial soap
 
 

Effect of antiseptic handwashing vs alcohol sanitizer on health care-associated infections in neonatal intensive care units.

School of Nursing, College of Physicians and Surgeons, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, 630 W 168th Street, New York, NY 10032, USA. ell23@...
BACKGROUND: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, Ga, recommend use of waterless alcohol hand products in lieu of traditional handwashing for patient care, but there are few data demonstrating the impact of this recommendation on health care-associated infections. OBJECTIVE: To compare the effect of 2 hand hygiene regimens on infection rates and skin condition and microbial counts of nurses' hands in neonatal intensive care units. DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS: Clinical trial using a crossover design in 2 neonatal intensive care units in Manhattan, NY, from March 1, 2001, to January 31, 2003, including 2932 neonatal hospital admissions (51 760 patient days) and 119 nurse participants. INTERVENTION: Two hand hygiene products were tested: a traditional antiseptic handwash and an alcohol hand sanitizer. Each product was used for 11 consecutive months in each neonatal intensive care unit in random order. RESULTS: After adjusting for study site, birth weight, surgery, and follow-up time, there were no significant differences in neonatal infections between the 2 products; odds ratios for alcohol compared with handwashing were 0.98 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.77-1.25) for any infection, 0.99 (95% CI, 0.77-1.33) for bloodstream infections, 1.61 (95% CI, 0.57-5.54) for pneumonia, 1.78 (95% CI, 0.94-3.37) for skin and soft tissue infections, and 1.26 (95% CI, 0.42-3.76) for central nervous system infections. The skin condition of participating nurses was significantly improved during the alcohol phase (P = .02 and P = .049 for observer and self-assessments, respectively), but there were no significant differences in mean microbial counts on nurses' hands (3.21 and 3.11 log(10) colony-forming units for handwashing and alcohol, respectively; P = .38). CONCLUSIONS: Infection rates and microbial counts on nurses' hands were equivalent during handwashing and alcohol phases, and nurses' skin condition was improved using alcohol. However, assessing the impact on infection rates of a single intervention is challenging because of multiple contributory factors such as patient risk, unit design, and staff behavior. Other practices such as frequency and quality of hand hygiene are likely to be as important as product in reducing risk of cross-transmission.
PMID: 15809394 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
3. Is the cdc and hospitals up to date or at least 2 years behind w/ diseninating information.????

City faults Children's on disease reporting

Orders training after lag over whooping cough

City health officials have ordered staff training at Children's Hospital Boston to improve reporting of disease outbreaks -- the first time the Boston Public Health Commission has ever issued such a mandate.
The action, detailed in a memo obtained by the Globe, is in response to the hospital's failure last month to expeditiously notify the agency about an outbreak of whooping cough that eventually sickened 33 hospital employees. State law requires that such infectious disease clusters be reported within 24 hours, but Boston health authorities did not learn of the outbreak until several weeks later -- and even then, only indirectly.
The move by the health commission is the most striking example of a yearlong push to make sure doctors, clinics, and hospitals abide by their responsibility to report cases of certain infectious diseases as soon as a diagnosis is made. The sooner public health agencies know about a hospital-based outbreak, specialists said, the sooner they can stem its spread into the community.
"If the physician waits too long to report, you miss the opportunity to prevent disease," said Dr. Jeffrey S. Duchin , chief of communicable disease control in Seattle and a leading member of the Infectious Diseases Society of America . "The clinicians who see the patients are really the eyes and ears of the public health system."
At the same time the order was sent to Children's, the Boston health department issued memos to all of the city's hospitals stressing the importance of prompt reporting, noting that "delayed notification of a recent infectious disease outbreak made it more difficult for us to take measures to contain its spread."
Health commission officials said the delay in reporting by Children's was especially troubling because some of the infected workers had second jobs at other medical facilities and could have exposed patients and staff there, although there is no evidence that the outbreak extended beyond the Longwood-area hospital.
A spokeswoman for Children's, Michelle Davis , said the hospital has already taken steps since the outbreak of whooping cough to prevent a repeat of the reporting delay, including establishing redundancies in its notification system. The city's order gives Children's until Dec. 15 to submit a plan to educate staff on their legal responsibilities.
"My sense is that the public health department is going to be pleased with the way that we're moving forward and attempting to comply with our reporting requirements," Davis said. "We're taking that responsibility seriously."
Nationally and globally, a series of events during the past five years demonstrated the importance of intervening swiftly to arrest disease outbreaks.
First, in 2001, there were the anthrax attacks. Then, in 2003, SARS -- severe acute respiratory syndrome -- hopscotched from East Asia to Canada, taking root in a Toronto hospital.
Most recently, avian influenza has fueled fears of a global flu epidemic that could result in millions of human deaths.
Public health authorities in Massachusetts have increasingly recognized that physicians and medical institutions are not always complying with reporting laws, including in 2004, when Boston University waited nearly two weeks to report that three lab researchers had been exposed to the bacterium tularemia while conducting experiments.
In September, the public health commissioner in Worcester said authorities at St. Vincent Hospital did not alert him to a whooping cough outbreak until nearly three weeks after the first diagnosis. Whooping cough is also known as pertussis.
In Boston, the public health department in 2004 strengthened its rules governing disease reporting, providing $1,000 fines for lapses in reporting any case of more than 75 diseases, such as hepatitis, measles, and rabies. No fines have been levied so far.
"We did put a little bit of teeth into the regulation," said Dr. Anita Barry , Boston's director of communicable disease control. "If people continually fail to report and don't have some kind of corrective action, then I think we're really pushed into having to assign penalties just to get people's attention."
When health agencies get reports on disease outbreaks, they typically try to contain the disease by identifying other potential victims, giving them preventive treatment when possible and, when necessary, isolating them.
Barry said the public health commission did not learn of the outbreak at Children's until Oct. 25, even though the hospital internally had identified and moved to contain a cluster of whooping cough cases by late September.
The health agency, Barry said, found out about the cases only when the state lab forwarded results of a positive pertussis test to a city nurse.
She followed up by dialing a telephone number on the report. "It was Children's Hospital occupational health, and the response to our nurse was, 'It's just another case related to the outbreak,' and our nurse said, 'What outbreak?' " Barry recalled.
Stephen Smith can be reached at stsmith@....
 
 
 
4.Anti bioctics    (type in mrsa search or antimicrobial resistance in to search topics)
 
 
 
 
5.    NPR
 
 
You have to listen to these ,I could not obtain the printed version
A friend thought you'd like this streaming media. Play it now with your RealPlayer:
 
 
 
 
 Note: This content may require the latest RealPlayer, which is not available on Windows 95, Mac OS9 or Linux systems.
 
 
 
6. Possible trends and empiric data to model

Systematic review of isolation policies in the hospital management of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus: a review of the literature with epidemiological and economic modelling.

Academic Department of Geriatric Medicine, Royal Free Campus, Royal Free and University College Medical School, University of London, London, UK.
OBJECTIVE: To review the evidence for the effectiveness of different isolation policies and screening practices in reducing the incidence of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) colonisation and infection in hospital in-patients. To develop transmission models to study the effectiveness and cost-effectiveness of isolation policies in controlling MRSA. DATA SOURCES: MEDLINE, EMBASE, CINAHL, The Cochrane Library and SIGLE (1966-2000). Hand-searching key journals. No language restrictions. REVIEW METHODS: Key data were extracted from articles reporting MRSA-related outcomes and describing an isolation policy in a hospital with epidemic or endemic MRSA. No quality restrictions were imposed on studies using isolation wards (IW) or nurse cohorting (NC). Other studies were included if they were prospective or employed planned comparisons of retrospective data. Stochastic and deterministic models investigated long-term transmission dynamics, studying the effect of a fixed capacity IW, producing economic evaluations using local cost data. RESULTS: A total of 46 studies were accepted: 18 IWs, 9 NC, 19 other isolation policies. Most were interrupted time series, with few planned formal prospective studies. All but one reported multiple interventions. Consideration of potential confounders, measures to prevent bias, and appropriate statistical analysis were mostly lacking. No conclusions could be drawn in a third of studies. Most others provided evidence consistent with reduction of MRSA acquisition. Six long interrupted time series provided the strongest evidence. Four of these provided evidence that intensive control measures which included patient isolation were effective in controlling MRSA. In two others IW use failed to prevent endemic MRSA. There was no robust economic evaluation. Models showed that improving the detection rate or ensuring adequate isolation capacity reduced endemic levels, with substantial savings achievable. CONCLUSIONS: Major methodological weaknesses and inadequate reporting in published research mean that many plausible alternative explanations for reductions in MRSA acquisition associated with interventions cannot be excluded. No well-designed studies allow the role of isolation measures alone to be assessed. Nonetheless, there is evidence that concerted efforts that include isolation can reduce MRSA even when endemic. Little evidence was found to suggest that current isolation measures recommended in the UK are ineffective, and these should continue to be applied until further research establishes otherwise. The studies with the strongest evidence, together with the results of the modelling, provide testable hypotheses for future research. Guidelines to facilitate design of future research are produced.
PMID: 14636487 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
 
 
 
 
 


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#675 From: "Mary Bernard" <mbernard@...>
Date: Mon Dec 4, 2006 8:02 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hello and Help
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Jon’s message mentioned some clinical studies. Sorry for confusion. So it is Jon that I truly directed message back to.

Anxious to review the medical journals and studies done to date.

Thanks.

 

 


From: MRSA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MRSA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of todd martin
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:46 AM
To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help

 

Hi Mary Ann~~~~

I am confused to whom you are asking for links, myself or Jon. I have posted links etc in previous posts, and scince I am not very computer savvy and can type at a record slow pace it is difficult to do. But I am continually learning

 

 

Enjoy the day--

Todd



Mary Ann Bernard <mbernard@harneydh.com> wrote:

Perhaps you could show the clinical research links, so one could go to the journals where it was published and read the clinicl study themselves.
If the research is not done using the gold standard, placebo, double blind, studies and is NOT published in physician peer reviewed journals it is farily certain that it is invalid and erroneous research. But instead more of an opinion of one or a few.

So, a link to the valid research may better help on to make a concious decision.
Mary Ann

-----Original message-----
From: "Jon" jrueus@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:57:34 -0800
To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help

> Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a great idea
> except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
> when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
> way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
> area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
> developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
> humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
> and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
> discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
> water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
> through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
> wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
> to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
> careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
> you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.
>
> From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
> gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
> never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
> hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
> will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.
>
> Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
> back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.
>
> I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.
>
> Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
> (but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
> bark proved in clinical trails.
>
> Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
> pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
> honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
> enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
> Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
> applicator and dispose of it.
>
> Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
> has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
> recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
> interest.
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
> >
> > I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> > as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> > dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> > skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> > hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> > to anti-bacterials.
> > Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> > Thanks
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
> > > story:
> > >
> > > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> > flush.
> > > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
> > > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
> > > went away.
> > >
> > > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
> > been
> > > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> > infection
> > > returning.
> > >
> > > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> > that
> > > it is related.
> > >
> > > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
> > > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> > 2ce
> > > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> > >
> > > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
> > > directions to a tee.
> > >
> > > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> > >
> > > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> > >
> > > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > > rid of it for good?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>



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Date: Mon Dec 4, 2006 6:31 am
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#673 From: diane knight <orchidian27@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hello and Help
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The prescription for the bleach bathes was 2ce a week I have to fill my bathtup with a solution  of 4 tblspoons bleach for every gallon of water and submerge myself for 3-5 minutes.
 
It is gross and my skin and hair are miserable and I still get staph infections.

tmimpsf <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~

I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
to anti-bacterials.
Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
Thanks
Todd

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
> story:
>
> I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
flush.
> I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
> doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
> went away.
>
> Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
been
> on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
infection
> returning.
>
> I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
that
> it is related.
>
> I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
> muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
2ce
> a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
>
> I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
> directions to a tee.
>
> In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
>
> I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
>
> Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> rid of it for good?
>
> Thanks!
>



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#672 From: "Ms. Vickie" <vickie.layton@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 7:23 pm
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CONTINUE DEALING WITH THE OUTBREAKS AS THEY COME????

Is that what the Infectious Disease specialist told you? Wow! No wonder
we can't get MRSA under control. They don't care because its not them
who have to deal with it.

I hope that you can find someone who cares and will help you to get rid
of it so that you don't have to just deal with it as long as some of us
here have.

Vickie

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 9:46 am, Jennifer Ellison wrote:

> You said you needed stories..well here is mine. I'm not really sure
> where this came from. I work at a hospital, but not in it, at a
> building across the street. I think my first outbreak was October 2005.
> I had a spot on my bikini line, but I just assumed it was a ingrown
> hair or something along those lines. I was never treated. At the same
> time I had a stye on my eye twice within weeks of each other. My next
> outbreak was December 31, 2006. It had started about a week before, but
> I did not go to hospital until the 31st. It was horrible. Almost my
> entire shin was swollen. They gave me vancomycin, a double dose of
> morphine and over 30 shots of lidocaine. They sqeueezed and squeezed
> for well over an hour, 3 or 4 cores came out, and they sent this to be
> cultured. They sent me home with some kind of antibiotics, but I don't
> remember what it was. I found out a few days later that it was MRSA,
> and they prescribed me a different antibiotic, but I don't know what it
> was. I was get a small spot once every couple of months, but I just
> dealt with them since they never got as bad. Around the end of August
> early September I got one on the side of my face. This time I was put
> on Septra and Mupirocin for 10 days each. Then November 13th I got
> another one on my forehead and they gave me the same regimen. They ran
> labs to be sure my immune system is ok, and it is. I am being referred
> to a couple of other departments. I have spoken with an ID doc and told
> him my story and he told me right now that good hygeine and continuous
> use of hibiclense are probably my best option and just continue dealing
> with outbreaks as they come.
Ms. Vickie

#671 From: todd martin <Tmimpsf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hello and Help
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Hi Mary Ann~~~~
I am confused to whom you are asking for links, myself or Jon. I have posted links etc in previous posts, and scince I am not very computer savvy and can type at a record slow pace it is difficult to do. But I am continually learning
 
 
Enjoy the day--
Todd


Mary Ann Bernard <mbernard@...> wrote:
Perhaps you could show the clinical research links, so one could go to the journals where it was published and read the clinicl study themselves.
If the research is not done using the gold standard, placebo, double blind, studies and is NOT published in physician peer reviewed journals it is farily certain that it is invalid and erroneous research. But instead more of an opinion of one or a few.

So, a link to the valid research may better help on to make a concious decision.
Mary Ann

-----Original message-----
From: "Jon" jrueus@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:57:34 -0800
To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help

> Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a great idea
> except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
> when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
> way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
> area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
> developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
> humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
> and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
> discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
> water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
> through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
> wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
> to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
> careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
> you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.
>
> From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
> gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
> never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
> hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
> will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.
>
> Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
> back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.
>
> I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.
>
> Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
> (but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
> bark proved in clinical trails.
>
> Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
> pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
> honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
> enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
> Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
> applicator and dispose of it.
>
> Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
> has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
> recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
> interest.
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
> >
> > I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> > as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> > dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> > skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> > hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> > to anti-bacterials.
> > Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> > Thanks
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
> > > story:
> > >
> > > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> > flush.
> > > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
> > > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
> > > went away.
> > >
> > > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
> > been
> > > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> > infection
> > > returning.
> > >
> > > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> > that
> > > it is related.
> > >
> > > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
> > > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> > 2ce
> > > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> > >
> > > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
> > > directions to a tee.
> > >
> > > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> > >
> > > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> > >
> > > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > > rid of it for good?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>



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#670 From: todd martin <Tmimpsf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 6:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hello and Help
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Hi Jennifer ~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Thank you for responding.
Please lookat my previous posts to see if anything I did may be of help. If you keep having recurrance you have probably never had it( Staph microbe) erradicated from your body, and you could have VRE since the doctors used that treatment for your shin. The Mec test should show if you are resistant to vanco.
As I mentioned before I was told 3 years ago that if mupirocin does nothing and can make the condition worse. I went to Grand Rounds at Sf General to hear Dr.comment on his study and they are unsure about Riphampin /Septra and clindamiacin efficacy. Once again if you relapsed then you were probably resistant to that antibiotic already .
Kenneth todar at Univ of Wisc at Madison (a microbiologist) told me last year that only Vanco combined with a drug a can't recall will be effective.
here is his email
 
 
 
I will run this by the dr's I am working with here in sf
we will beat this-----
 
Todd
 


Jennifer Ellison <akajenfer@...> wrote:
You said you needed stories..well here is mine. I'm not really sure where this came from. I work at a hospital, but not in it, at a building across the street. I think my first outbreak was October 2005. I had a spot on my bikini line, but I just assumed it was a ingrown hair or something along those lines. I was never treated. At the same time I had a stye on my eye twice within weeks of each other. My next outbreak was December 31, 2006. It had started about a week before, but I did not go to hospital until the 31st. It was horrible. Almost my entire shin was swollen. They gave me vancomycin, a double dose of morphine and over 30 shots of lidocaine. They sqeueezed and squeezed for well over an hour, 3 or 4 cores came out, and they sent this to be cultured. They sent me home with some kind of antibiotics, but I don't remember what it was. I found out a few days later that it was MRSA, and they prescribed me a different antibiotic, but I don't know what it was. I was get a small spot once every couple of months, but I just dealt with them since they never got as bad. Around the end of August early September I got one on the side of my face. This time I was put on Septra and Mupirocin for 10 days each. Then November 13th I got another one on my forehead and they gave me the same regimen. They ran labs to be sure my immune system is ok, and it is. I am being referred to a couple of other departments. I have spoken with an ID doc and told him my story and he told me right now that good hygeine and continuous use of hibiclense are probably my best option and just continue dealing with outbreaks as they come.

 
----- Original Message ----
From: todd martin <Tmimpsf@yahoo.com>
To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 9:08:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help

Hi Jon~~~~
 
I had a predisosed condition that made me suseptible to MRSA. I have used 70% rubbing alchohol applied with a cotton ball almost everyday since being a teenager and it has never burned my skin. Phisoderm Body wash and Facial wash were the only products (yes I had to use other soaps as well as hibiclens) that helped keep my break-outs almost non existant. Dr's thought I was crazy but when I was unable to afford the Phisoderm and had to use others my skin would once again erupt.
I take the philosopy of telling people on thei site what has worked for me and as far as clinical trials and other points of reference I send them the link to read and decide for themselves.  Stating so called remedies verbatim comes across to a reader as if you actually had first hand experience or observation of its efficacy.
Anti-microbial resistance can be very quick to mutate and researchers are still fumbling for solutions and answers to transmission , containment and eradication.
I can only say from my 4.5 year experience that many things (even published by the cdc ) do not make sense.
I am working w/ California Pacific Medical Center and UCSF to try to comeup w data by Feb That show commonalities of Ca-MRsa.
I have been asking folks in this site to share thier stories w/ me but have gotten little response.
Last night  I wrote to Barbara Boxer to pressure the cdc and City of SF to require mandatory  reporting of MRSA and track its recurrence.
Many believe it is resistant to Mucuripone, septra, quineolones , cephlasporines, and that vancomicyn combined with tyglecil are the only anti-biotic therapies that will work.
I push for probiotic , Dr Natura colon cleanse , phage therapy and diet and hygine to be what worked for me----I believe once colonised on the skin it hides in the stomach intestines and bladder ---resurfacing when conditions become optimal.
I wish people would at least try to convey where they believe they contracted this microbe and if they can say they have experienced recurrence
I highly suggest anyone suffering from this affliction begin to keep a daily diary
I have every day documented since I contracted this on Aug 12 2002
DR's hospitals meds , every one i talked to on the phone , people i came into contact w, diet , symptoms conditions , secondary infections, medical medicare ssi human rights commission, dept of public health , Japan and Austrailia web sites
 
what I still find most appalling is that Dr's here could not help me because they were kept in the dark just as much as patients. From Aug 2002- Feb 2003 there were only 2 TWO web sites and you had to type out the whole thing . I knew what I had and about vancomicyn by Nov 2002 but fell on deaf ears
I have been free of the microbe since april 2006 and have begun to put my life back together, having lost everything and being homeless for 3 years . I now have my own apt again and have started Paralegal studies and have been able to re connect w/ family and friends some whom I have not seen in 6 years
This is the first holiday season in 5 that I am not alone!
Last year I was calling a dear friend crying saying I am so lonely I don't know how to deal w/ this emotion. Lonliness combined with fear and desperation were quite hard to get a grip on . but Here I am
I am very dedicated to helping anyone so that they may not suffer the hurdles or pitfalls I sustained .
Todd


Jon <jrueus@yahoo. com> wrote:
Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a great idea
except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.

From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.

Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.

I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.

Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
(but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
bark proved in clinical trails.

Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
applicator and dispose of it.

Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
interest.

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups. com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@... > wrote:
>
> Hi Orchidian27~ ~~~~~~
>
> I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> to anti-bacterials.
> Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> Thanks
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups. com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@ > wrote:
> >
> > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
> > story:
> >
> > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> flush.
> > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
> > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
> > went away.
> >
> > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
> been
> > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> infection
> > returning.
> >
> > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> that
> > it is related.
> >
> > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
> > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> 2ce
> > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> >
> > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
> > directions to a tee.
> >
> > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> >
> > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment! !
> >
> > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > rid of it for good?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>




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#669 From: "Mary Ann Bernard" <mbernard@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: Hello and Help
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Perhaps you could show the clinical research links, so one could go to the
journals where it was published and read the clinicl study  themselves.
If the research is not done using the gold standard, placebo, double blind,
studies and is NOT published in physician peer reviewed journals it is farily
certain that it is invalid and erroneous research. But instead more of an
opinion of one or a few.

So, a link to the valid research may better help on to make a concious decision.
Mary Ann


-----Original message-----
From: "Jon" jrueus@...
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:57:34 -0800
To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help

> Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a great idea
> except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
>  when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
> way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
> area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
> developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
> humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
> and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
> discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
> water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
> through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
> wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
> to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
> careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
> you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.
>
> From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
> gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
> never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
> hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
> will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.
>
> Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
> back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.
>
> I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.
>
> Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
> (but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
> bark proved in clinical trails.
>
> Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
> pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
> honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
> enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
> Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
> applicator and dispose of it.
>
> Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
> has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
> recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
> interest.
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
> >
> > I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> > as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> > dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> > skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> > hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> > to anti-bacterials.
> > Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> > Thanks
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all!  I am so happy to have found this group.  A bit about my
> > > story:
> > >
> > > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> > flush.
> > > I week later my nose started to deteriorate.  I went to my primary
> > > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph.  I was given cephalexin.  It
> > > went away.
> > >
> > > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again.  I have
> > been
> > > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> > infection
> > > returning.
> > >
> > > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> > that
> > > it is related.
> > >
> > > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day.  I put
> > > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> > 2ce
> > > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> > >
> > > I just got another infection.  I have been following the doctors
> > > directions to a tee.
> > >
> > > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> > >
> > > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> > >
> > > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > > rid of it for good?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>

#668 From: "Mary Ann Bernard" <mbernard@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Non clueless docs
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All,
Please be aware of using medical advice from someone first that you do not even
know.
It is not true that EVERYONE MUST (and every time!) be on probiotics if you are
taking an antibiotic.

It is true that soemtimes, people have gi issues and also yeast issues when
taking an antibiotic but not everything is a blanket statement for all. We are
all different.

Do your own research and make your own decision if you are unable to find a
physician or nurse practitioner who is knowledgeable and desires to stay on top
of things themselves. Actually..even if they are!

To your health,
Mary Ann

-----Original message-----
From: "Jon" jrueus@...
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 04:34:53 -0800
To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MRSA] Re: Non clueless docs

> Did you take antibiotics, you could have antibiotic induced
> diarria...or Clostridium difficile, thats a serious condition
> requiring different antibiotics...checkout eatingforibs.com. I think
> that link tells you how to eat with ibs.
>
> When your on any antibiotic you need a probiotic and if your immune
> system is good there is a special yeast...that prevent intestional
> infection from the antibiotics destroying all your good flora...I
> think the one doc I read said to go with the yeast(its called
> sacromous boulardi, something like that) then 50% through the duration
> of the antibiotic begin heavy with pill based probiotics 3X a day. In
> the morning with water before eating.
>
> You can only use the yeast if your immune system is healthy. Don't
> break the pills open or get any on your skin or you will get overrun
> with a fungus if your not healthy. Probiotics are a safer bet if your
> unsure.
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "JoyceB" <crwriter@...> wrote:
> >
> > I should probably mention that I am sick.  I could corner the market
> on what
> > it feels like to have your gastrointestinal system stuck in a microwave.
> > I'm getting weaker by the day.  It's been a slow decline.  I sleep 10 or
> > more hours a day and am still tired.  More foods seem to bother me every
> > day.  It's a catch 22.  I have to eat enough to keep my stomach from
> burning
> > up, yet many foods burn me up.  My whole upper abdomen feels like liquid
> > fire most of the time.  I wake to bad cramps and sometimes I wake
> heaving.
> > I don't understand why I'm left this way.  It's been months, and the
> doctor
> > just shakes his head dumfounded.  Now that my grandmother is dead,
> and my
> > mother has confirmed MRSA, I can only hope he will review my blood
> work and
> > order a blood test for MRSA.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MRSA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MRSA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of JoyceB
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:36 PM
> > To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [MRSA] Non clueless docs in Raleigh/Chapel Hill/Durham
> area????
> >
> >
> >
> > Well - it's confirmed.  My mother's skin lesions she's had for the
> last 8
> > months are MRSA.  Maybe now I'll get the blood test from my doctor.
>  Here's
> > hoping.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joyce
> >
>
>
>
>

#667 From: Jennifer Ellison <akajenfer@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hello and Help
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You said you needed stories..well here is mine. I'm not really sure where this came from. I work at a hospital, but not in it, at a building across the street. I think my first outbreak was October 2005. I had a spot on my bikini line, but I just assumed it was a ingrown hair or something along those lines. I was never treated. At the same time I had a stye on my eye twice within weeks of each other. My next outbreak was December 31, 2006. It had started about a week before, but I did not go to hospital until the 31st. It was horrible. Almost my entire shin was swollen. They gave me vancomycin, a double dose of morphine and over 30 shots of lidocaine. They sqeueezed and squeezed for well over an hour, 3 or 4 cores came out, and they sent this to be cultured. They sent me home with some kind of antibiotics, but I don't remember what it was. I found out a few days later that it was MRSA, and they prescribed me a different antibiotic, but I don't know what it was. I was get a small spot once every couple of months, but I just dealt with them since they never got as bad. Around the end of August early September I got one on the side of my face. This time I was put on Septra and Mupirocin for 10 days each. Then November 13th I got another one on my forehead and they gave me the same regimen. They ran labs to be sure my immune system is ok, and it is. I am being referred to a couple of other departments. I have spoken with an ID doc and told him my story and he told me right now that good hygeine and continuous use of hibiclense are probably my best option and just continue dealing with outbreaks as they come.

 
----- Original Message ----
From: todd martin <Tmimpsf@...>
To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 9:08:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MRSA] Re: Hello and Help

Hi Jon~~~~
 
I had a predisosed condition that made me suseptible to MRSA. I have used 70% rubbing alchohol applied with a cotton ball almost everyday since being a teenager and it has never burned my skin. Phisoderm Body wash and Facial wash were the only products (yes I had to use other soaps as well as hibiclens) that helped keep my break-outs almost non existant. Dr's thought I was crazy but when I was unable to afford the Phisoderm and had to use others my skin would once again erupt.
I take the philosopy of telling people on thei site what has worked for me and as far as clinical trials and other points of reference I send them the link to read and decide for themselves.  Stating so called remedies verbatim comes across to a reader as if you actually had first hand experience or observation of its efficacy.
Anti-microbial resistance can be very quick to mutate and researchers are still fumbling for solutions and answers to transmission , containment and eradication.
I can only say from my 4.5 year experience that many things (even published by the cdc ) do not make sense.
I am working w/ California Pacific Medical Center and UCSF to try to comeup w data by Feb That show commonalities of Ca-MRsa.
I have been asking folks in this site to share thier stories w/ me but have gotten little response.
Last night  I wrote to Barbara Boxer to pressure the cdc and City of SF to require mandatory  reporting of MRSA and track its recurrence.
Many believe it is resistant to Mucuripone, septra, quineolones , cephlasporines, and that vancomicyn combined with tyglecil are the only anti-biotic therapies that will work.
I push for probiotic , Dr Natura colon cleanse , phage therapy and diet and hygine to be what worked for me----I believe once colonised on the skin it hides in the stomach intestines and bladder ---resurfacing when conditions become optimal.
I wish people would at least try to convey where they believe they contracted this microbe and if they can say they have experienced recurrence
I highly suggest anyone suffering from this affliction begin to keep a daily diary
I have every day documented since I contracted this on Aug 12 2002
DR's hospitals meds , every one i talked to on the phone , people i came into contact w, diet , symptoms conditions , secondary infections, medical medicare ssi human rights commission, dept of public health , Japan and Austrailia web sites
 
what I still find most appalling is that Dr's here could not help me because they were kept in the dark just as much as patients. From Aug 2002- Feb 2003 there were only 2 TWO web sites and you had to type out the whole thing . I knew what I had and about vancomicyn by Nov 2002 but fell on deaf ears
I have been free of the microbe since april 2006 and have begun to put my life back together, having lost everything and being homeless for 3 years . I now have my own apt again and have started Paralegal studies and have been able to re connect w/ family and friends some whom I have not seen in 6 years
This is the first holiday season in 5 that I am not alone!
Last year I was calling a dear friend crying saying I am so lonely I don't know how to deal w/ this emotion. Lonliness combined with fear and desperation were quite hard to get a grip on . but Here I am
I am very dedicated to helping anyone so that they may not suffer the hurdles or pitfalls I sustained .
Todd
 

Jon <jrueus@yahoo. com> wrote:
Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a great idea
except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.

From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.

Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.

I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.

Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
(but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
bark proved in clinical trails.

Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
applicator and dispose of it.

Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
interest.

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups. com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@... > wrote:
>
> Hi Orchidian27~ ~~~~~~
>
> I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> to anti-bacterials.
> Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> Thanks
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups. com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@ > wrote:
> >
> > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
> > story:
> >
> > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> flush.
> > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
> > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
> > went away.
> >
> > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
> been
> > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> infection
> > returning.
> >
> > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> that
> > it is related.
> >
> > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
> > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> 2ce
> > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> >
> > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
> > directions to a tee.
> >
> > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> >
> > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment! !
> >
> > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > rid of it for good?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>




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#666 From: todd martin <Tmimpsf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hello and Help
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Hi Jon~~~~
 
I had a predisosed condition that made me suseptible to MRSA. I have used 70% rubbing alchohol applied with a cotton ball almost everyday since being a teenager and it has never burned my skin. Phisoderm Body wash and Facial wash were the only products (yes I had to use other soaps as well as hibiclens) that helped keep my break-outs almost non existant. Dr's thought I was crazy but when I was unable to afford the Phisoderm and had to use others my skin would once again erupt.
I take the philosopy of telling people on thei site what has worked for me and as far as clinical trials and other points of reference I send them the link to read and decide for themselves.  Stating so called remedies verbatim comes across to a reader as if you actually had first hand experience or observation of its efficacy.
Anti-microbial resistance can be very quick to mutate and researchers are still fumbling for solutions and answers to transmission , containment and eradication.
I can only say from my 4.5 year experience that many things (even published by the cdc ) do not make sense.
I am working w/ California Pacific Medical Center and UCSF to try to comeup w data by Feb That show commonalities of Ca-MRsa.
I have been asking folks in this site to share thier stories w/ me but have gotten little response.
Last night  I wrote to Barbara Boxer to pressure the cdc and City of SF to require mandatory  reporting of MRSA and track its recurrence.
Many believe it is resistant to Mucuripone, septra, quineolones , cephlasporines, and that vancomicyn combined with tyglecil are the only anti-biotic therapies that will work.
I push for probiotic , Dr Natura colon cleanse , phage therapy and diet and hygine to be what worked for me----I believe once colonised on the skin it hides in the stomach intestines and bladder ---resurfacing when conditions become optimal.
I wish people would at least try to convey where they believe they contracted this microbe and if they can say they have experienced recurrence
I highly suggest anyone suffering from this affliction begin to keep a daily diary
I have every day documented since I contracted this on Aug 12 2002
DR's hospitals meds , every one i talked to on the phone , people i came into contact w, diet , symptoms conditions , secondary infections, medical medicare ssi human rights commission, dept of public health , Japan and Austrailia web sites
 
what I still find most appalling is that Dr's here could not help me because they were kept in the dark just as much as patients. From Aug 2002- Feb 2003 there were only 2 TWO web sites and you had to type out the whole thing . I knew what I had and about vancomicyn by Nov 2002 but fell on deaf ears
I have been free of the microbe since april 2006 and have begun to put my life back together, having lost everything and being homeless for 3 years . I now have my own apt again and have started Paralegal studies and have been able to re connect w/ family and friends some whom I have not seen in 6 years
This is the first holiday season in 5 that I am not alone!
Last year I was calling a dear friend crying saying I am so lonely I don't know how to deal w/ this emotion. Lonliness combined with fear and desperation were quite hard to get a grip on . but Here I am
I am very dedicated to helping anyone so that they may not suffer the hurdles or pitfalls I sustained .
Todd
 

Jon <jrueus@...> wrote:
Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a great idea
except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.

From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.

Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.

I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.

Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
(but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
bark proved in clinical trails.

Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
applicator and dispose of it.

Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
interest.

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
>
> I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> to anti-bacterials.
> Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> Thanks
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all! I am so happy to have found this group. A bit about my
> > story:
> >
> > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> flush.
> > I week later my nose started to deteriorate. I went to my primary
> > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph. I was given cephalexin. It
> > went away.
> >
> > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again. I have
> been
> > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> infection
> > returning.
> >
> > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> that
> > it is related.
> >
> > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day. I put
> > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> 2ce
> > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> >
> > I just got another infection. I have been following the doctors
> > directions to a tee.
> >
> > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> >
> > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> >
> > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > rid of it for good?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>




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#665 From: jeaninethomas2000
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 2:15 pm
Subject: Chlorhexedine Baths for Decolonization
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--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
>
> I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach
Baths"
> as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as
opposed
> to anti-bacterials.
> Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> Thanks
> Todd
>
Chlorhexedine (bleach) baths have been used for decades in the US
and other countries to decolonize patients in hospitals and nursing
homes, it is safe. The leading hospitals in Chicago have been using
this. The regiment is one part chlorhexedine to 10 parts water, done
once a day for three consecutive days. The baths are done along with
mupirocin (a nasal antibiotic spray 3 times a day) for five days to
decolonize a patient who has tested positive for MRSA.
Jeanine
MRSA Survivors Network
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all!  I am so happy to have found this group.  A bit about
my
> > story:
> >
> > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> flush.
> > I week later my nose started to deteriorate.  I went to my
primary
> > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph.  I was given cephalexin.
It
> > went away.
> >
> > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again.  I have
> been
> > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> infection
> > returning.
> >
> > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> that
> > it is related.
> >
> > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for
my
> > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day.  I put
> > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take
minocyclin
> 2ce
> > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> >
> > I just got another infection.  I have been following the doctors
> > directions to a tee.
> >
> > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> >
> > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in
order
> > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> >
> > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to
get
> > rid of it for good?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>

#664 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 9:57 am
Subject: Re: Hello and Help
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Post the info for the bleach baths...rubbing alcohol is a great idea
except that it burns the skin. Some with skin conditions, particularly
  when dry weather moves in. The alcohol can tear apart the skin. One
way to check to see your skin condition is to look at your lower leg
area if its recently become shiny looking there is a capillary problem
developing, dry cracked heals another clue (keep in mind changes in
humidty and such will cause your skin to have periods of good times
and periods of bad times). That phcleanser soap is a great idea, good
discovery on that one. Other devices great for checking skin are:
water flux density devices, they check how creams and makups "breathe"
through the skin. If your getting pain and sores from covering up your
wounds you have capillary and small fiber nerve issues. makup starting
to bother you...wearing socks and shoes...you probably need to be very
careful. If your putting alcohol on your skin and its not burning
you...then your skin is in excellent condition. And your a lucky dog.

From my experience and understanding hibiclens (sp?) is the most
gentle on your skin(iodine is a little more harsh supposidly but I
never noticed any problem with it), you can take baths with
hibiclens(but do not get any small even tiny amount in your eye it
will blind you)...I've used the spray bactine too.

Hibiclens is actually used by surgeons and the instructions are on the
back to prepare your own skin for a surgery.

I've got a new sore on my foot maybe I'll upload a pic.

Faster wound healing: viagra is used if you have cold hands and feet
(but may work for anyone to cut healing time in half). French pine
bark proved in clinical trails.

Everything I post is from clinical testing, you can always search
pubmed.com and you will find the statistical data. That goes for the
honey too. medihoney is sterile. Some use raw honey which keeps its
enzyme, however there is always a risk of other contamined microbes.
Any time you apply your cream you should be using a sterile swab
applicator and dispose of it.

Wound healing and microbials are a new topic for me...as I can see Tim
has done much more research(would be interested if you can post the
recommended name of antibiotics again). Neurology is my main topic of
interest.

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~
>
> I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
> as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
> dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
> skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
> hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
> to anti-bacterials.
> Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
> Thanks
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all!  I am so happy to have found this group.  A bit about my
> > story:
> >
> > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> flush.
> > I week later my nose started to deteriorate.  I went to my primary
> > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph.  I was given cephalexin.  It
> > went away.
> >
> > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again.  I have
> been
> > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> infection
> > returning.
> >
> > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> that
> > it is related.
> >
> > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day.  I put
> > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> 2ce
> > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> >
> > I just got another infection.  I have been following the doctors
> > directions to a tee.
> >
> > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> >
> > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> >
> > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > rid of it for good?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>

#663 From: "tmimpsf" <Tmimpsf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 2:54 am
Subject: Re: Hello and Help
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Hi Orchidian27~~~~~~~

I am writing to request you send me the protocol for "bleach Baths"
as prescribed by your Dr. I was told they could be extremely
dangerous , bleach kills everything ,including good things on the
skin. I was advised to use rubbing alcohol and many hospitals and
hand washing products are using alcohol in the solutions as opposed
to anti-bacterials.
Please check my other posts for info that may be of help to you.
Thanks
Todd













--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all!  I am so happy to have found this group.  A bit about my
> story:
>
> I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
flush.
> I week later my nose started to deteriorate.  I went to my primary
> doctor and they diagnosed it as staph.  I was given cephalexin.  It
> went away.
>
> Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again.  I have
been
> on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
infection
> returning.
>
> I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
that
> it is related.
>
> I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day.  I put
> muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
2ce
> a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
>
> I just got another infection.  I have been following the doctors
> directions to a tee.
>
> In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
>
> I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
>
> Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> rid of it for good?
>
> Thanks!
>

#662 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Hello and Help
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Sores on the skin etc...possibly were not on antibiotics long enough,
or they used the wrong antibiotics...they should culture but often
never do. Intestional problems(diarria) after antibiotics look into
researching clostridium difficile. Mention that to your doctor, like
do you think it could possibly be...sometimes they are not on the ball
without a little coaxing

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia" <adeerah7pb@...> wrote:
>
> Hi orchidian27. I have MRSA in my sinuses and my skin. It is body
> wide in the under layer of my skin. I have had this for at least 14
> years and with to more doctors than I care to try to count and not
> one had a clue as to what was wrong. Finally I found a GREAT Doctor
> and he diagnosed the problem. My treatment is going to be for at
> least one year.  I think your problem is not staying on the
> antibiotics long enough. I am in my third month on Zithromax and am
> doing much better. Doc says we may have to go to Vancomycin as MRSA
> becomes resistant very quickly. Your test results should tell you
> which antibiotics your MRSA would be sensative to. (meaning the ones
> that will kill it)
> Perhaps a change in antibiotic taken for a longer time would help you.
> Ask your doctor....Blessings, Pat
>
>
> --- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all!  I am so happy to have found this group.  A bit about my
> > story:
> >
> > I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus
> flush.
> > I week later my nose started to deteriorate.  I went to my primary
> > doctor and they diagnosed it as staph.  I was given cephalexin.  It
> > went away.
> >
> > Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again.  I have
> been
> > on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the
> infection
> > returning.
> >
> > I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think
> that
> > it is related.
> >
> > I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> > prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> > face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day.  I put
> > muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin
> 2ce
> > a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
> >
> > I just got another infection.  I have been following the doctors
> > directions to a tee.
> >
> > In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
> >
> > I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> > receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> > for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
> >
> > Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> > rid of it for good?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>

#661 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: Hello and Help
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I had the same problem too. isnt that funny the ID I go to only works
tues and thurs...one would nearly die of staph waiting...makes no
sense. I was in the ER and they told me they were to afraid to give
many any meds. So I waited 3 days like i had too. Luckily mine was a
slow growing staph, at the time.

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "orchidian27" <orchidian27@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all!  I am so happy to have found this group.  A bit about my
> story:
>
> I had my tonsils removed 4 years ago and they gave me a sinus flush.
> I week later my nose started to deteriorate.  I went to my primary
> doctor and they diagnosed it as staph.  I was given cephalexin.  It
> went away.
>
> Over the last 4 years it has come back again and again.  I have been
> on cephalexin 11 times in the last 12 months because of the infection
> returning.
>
> I have gotten pneumonia 3 times in the last 2 years and I think that
> it is related.
>
> I went to the dermatologist for the first time this month. He
> prescribed bleach bathes twice a week, benzoyl peroxide wash for my
> face, belly button, toes, hands, and nose once a day.  I put
> muriprocyn in my nose 2ce a day (doesn't work). I take minocyclin 2ce
> a day. I have been doing this for 3 weeks.
>
> I just got another infection.  I have been following the doctors
> directions to a tee.
>
> In 4 years noone has grown a culture.
>
> I am considering moving to an infectious disease doctor but the
> receptionist said that it is going to take up to 48 hours in order
> for the nurse to call me back just to MAKE an appointment!!
>
> Does anyone else have this in the nose? Has anyone been able to get
> rid of it for good?
>
> Thanks!
>

#660 From: "Jon" <jrueus@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: Non clueless docs
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Did you take antibiotics, you could have antibiotic induced
diarria...or Clostridium difficile, thats a serious condition
requiring different antibiotics...checkout eatingforibs.com. I think
that link tells you how to eat with ibs.

When your on any antibiotic you need a probiotic and if your immune
system is good there is a special yeast...that prevent intestional
infection from the antibiotics destroying all your good flora...I
think the one doc I read said to go with the yeast(its called
sacromous boulardi, something like that) then 50% through the duration
of the antibiotic begin heavy with pill based probiotics 3X a day. In
the morning with water before eating.

You can only use the yeast if your immune system is healthy. Don't
break the pills open or get any on your skin or you will get overrun
with a fungus if your not healthy. Probiotics are a safer bet if your
unsure.

--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, "JoyceB" <crwriter@...> wrote:
>
> I should probably mention that I am sick.  I could corner the market
on what
> it feels like to have your gastrointestinal system stuck in a microwave.
> I'm getting weaker by the day.  It's been a slow decline.  I sleep 10 or
> more hours a day and am still tired.  More foods seem to bother me every
> day.  It's a catch 22.  I have to eat enough to keep my stomach from
burning
> up, yet many foods burn me up.  My whole upper abdomen feels like liquid
> fire most of the time.  I wake to bad cramps and sometimes I wake
heaving.
> I don't understand why I'm left this way.  It's been months, and the
doctor
> just shakes his head dumfounded.  Now that my grandmother is dead,
and my
> mother has confirmed MRSA, I can only hope he will review my blood
work and
> order a blood test for MRSA.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MRSA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MRSA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of JoyceB
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:36 PM
> To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MRSA] Non clueless docs in Raleigh/Chapel Hill/Durham
area????
>
>
>
> Well - it's confirmed.  My mother's skin lesions she's had for the
last 8
> months are MRSA.  Maybe now I'll get the blood test from my doctor.
  Here's
> hoping.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Joyce
>

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