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Hi Caryl,
I agree with you completely ! It is not the responsibility of the
patient to insure their safety, it is the responsibility of
healthcare workers to follow CDC guidelines for contact precaution,
etc ( however lax they are ). A patient now must speak up and insist
a healthcare worker wash their hands and put on gloves to protect
themselves and clean equipment ( i.e. stethoscope) in their presence
and this puts the patient in a precarious position, doctors and some
healthcare workers bristle at the reminder and get defensive. I have
personally encountered this behavior. But patients must be pro-active
to protect themselves, unfortunately, because we can not trust
healthcare workers to do the right thing. Our very lives are at risk.
It is the failed ( lack there of) leadership by the CDC, APIC and
SHEA to educate, monitor and enforce contact precautions and
decontaminating the environment.

I believe, Mary, that you are an APIC ( Association of Professionals
in Infection Control) member, so your attack on patients is typical
of your organization ( you drink their Kool-aide), blame the victim
mentality when your failed organization is the main problem.
Jeanine Thomas
founder- MRSA Survivors Network
FDA Consultant on the Anti-Infective Advisory Board





--- In MRSA@yahoogroups.com, Caryl Carver <mrsasucks@...> wrote:
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> I'm sorry but I must disagree, patients should NEVER have to take
responsibility for the actions of health care providers who deliver
their care. 
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> Yes, I have been in a heath care facility recently, today as a
matter of fact.  I am a surgical RN.  I got my MRSA infection from
the very hospital where I worked and was a patient and where I was
also fired for reporting them to OSHA for violating my right to wear
PPE.  Unfortunately, OSHA sided with the hospital.  What a sad, sad
commentary on the state of healthless care in the United States.  To
lay the burden on patients is absolutely absurd.  It is time we all
woke up and demanded that health care providers DO THEIR DAMN
JOBS!!!!
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> Sorry if you are offended by these comments but they are true to my
heart.
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> Caryl J. Carver, RN, BSN
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> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Mary Bernard <mbernard@...> wrote:
> From: Mary Bernard <mbernard@...>
> Subject: RE: [MRSA] PatientPak
> To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 9:56 PM
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> From: MRSA@yahoogroups. com [mailto:MRSA@yahoogroups. com] On
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:48 PM
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Have you guys seen this yet? http://drugresistantstaph.blogspot.com/ What a bunch of BS, do they actually expect US to pay to protect ourselves when we are...
mrsasucks
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Oct 15, 2008
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Looks like ONLY if you live in England, Africa or other developing countries. If you have been in a hospital the last couple years or more, I suspect you will...
Mary Bernard
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Oct 15, 2008
9:56 pm

Mary-- I'm sorry but I must disagree, patients should NEVER have to take responsibility for the actions of health care providers who deliver their care.  Yes,...
Caryl Carver
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Oct 16, 2008
3:45 am

Hi Caryl, I agree with you completely ! It is not the responsibility of the patient to insure their safety, it is the responsibility of healthcare workers to...
jeaninethomas2000
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Oct 16, 2008
2:00 pm

I believe that what my comment said was "However...I do agree that we all need to take some ownership in our own health and always ASK HC members to wash or...
Mary Bernard
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Oct 16, 2008
6:55 pm

I believe what I said was..."However...I do agree that we all need to take some ownership for our own health and always ASK HC members to wash or sanitize...
Mary Bernard
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Oct 16, 2008
7:18 pm

Mary—   Thank you so much for the offer.  I am presently working at a small surgery center and am very happy.  I have paid careful attention; all the...
Caryl Carver
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Oct 17, 2008
12:17 am

That's a lot of money, isn't it. I think that if I ever have to go back to the hospital that I will buy cheap sheets to use on the bed, and throw them away...
Nova004@...
nova004amal
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Oct 16, 2008
11:34 am

Hi Caryl, Somehow I missed your reply until I saw Jeanine's. I am an RN ,like you, and have been fighting this MRSA infection and sequelae for going on 4...
Nova004@...
nova004amal
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Oct 16, 2008
3:04 pm

Mary Ann, what do you mean that you have yet to see a hospital associated MRSA? I would be happy to tell you about my experience. And my guess is that quite...
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Oct 16, 2008
10:00 pm

The Patient Pak is a commercial product. There are all sorts of products out there which purport to protect our health but are in reality just a scheme to ...
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Oct 17, 2008
11:39 pm

Thank you!! That was exactly the point I tried to make! ... From: taurusrc@... Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:39:40 -0700 To: MRSA@yahoogroups.com ...
Mary Ann Bernard, URDP
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