Hello!
I am Sommer. I am in Emotional Group 9 right now, rolled over from Lyme
Group 15. I just want to get connected here, get to know some ppl and
find answers to ques. I might have about the IRT process.
Sommer=)

Dear Lisa,

So good to see you here.  I also had Lyme for 20 years and started out
really hard with IRT-- not in exactly the same way as you have, but it
was very, very difficult and I can relate.

Thankfully, IRT herxing will get you somewhere in all this, though, it
really will.

Are you Rifing and taking MMS alongside IRT right now?  I'm thinking
that if you are, you should maybe take a break from them and just
concentrate on codes and rest for a good while.  The body can only
handle so much, and those codes really give the body a lot of
information to utilize.  You can always pick the Rifing and MMS up
again later down the road when you're stronger and have less herxing
with IRT.

You're so right when you say it is all about treating the whole
person, so right.  The more I learn about that myself, the more
clearly and beautifully I see it.  Just this morning I was reading
about a doctor who came up with physical proof of how chemicals
released by our emotional issues/belief system effects our cell
function.  I'm so thankful to be using a method that addresses this as
well.  True, full healing for many chronic disease sufferers cannot
occur without it.

Hang in there and keep up hope even though it might seem silly and
strained to do so at this point.  Your beauty days aren't over!  Some
of the best of them are just beginning...

Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "west612908" <LisaMarie22@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I realize that some of you may know me from other groups
> but the questions that I have are specifically about IRT and any
> reactions that you all may have had that has possibly been like mine
> and how your out come has been if you have indeed been doing IRT for
> long enough.
>
> I just began class 17 and we have done 2 sessions so far. I have had
> lyme for 20 years or longer so I fully realize this is going to take
> some time to see large improvement. I also believe that with lyme, it
> is so insidious; that I am going to aim the full arsenal at it at all
> times and IRT is another big gun.
>
> I am home bound but I can do minimal house work and bathe, however the
> beauty days are over for me because there is no energy left to do any
> of that. I use my energies to stay alive. Although I have been Rifing
> for seven months and using MMS for 3 months I feel those thing (as good
> as they are) are just keeping me alive.
>
> To tell you the truth I don't want to do any of this stuff including
> IRT because I am tired of how sick it all makes me feel (HERXING) but
> on the other hand I am very great full they are out there because the
> alternative is a dirt nap.
>
> The first treatment put me on the couch for Wednesday and Thursday but
> really I thought to myself well this is not going to be unbearable, I
> can manage. That is until Thursday afternoon; my sister called me and
> told me that her son has cancer.  As I was crying over that I got the
> most intense headache I have literally ever had in my life. I could
> feel the vessels in the back of my head shooting pain through there
> branches up through the top of my head.
>
> I went and got an ice pack and wrapped it around my head and felt
> crummy for the rest of the day. The next morning I got up and literally
> had to shuffle around, my legs were so heavy it felt like I had rocks
> in my pant legs. and the head ache was horrendous. I wore an ice pack
> all morning. I sat on the couch for 2 hours and I started feeling a
> little better. I got up to use the rest room 50 feet away and began to
> cry by the time I got there, (any exertion made my head pain
> excruciating). My heart started pounding and I began shaking all over
> my entire body. If I did not know any better I would say I went into
> shock.
>
> Now I am no whine, never have been. Although I can tell you, that was
> freaky, and the pain was unbelievable, I was strangely calm in a weird
> sort of way. I really in all trueness with no exaggeration thought I
> was going to die with in a few moments. I decided to call my husband
> and say good bye. So I did. I told him this was the end of my fight
> with lyme, I did not believe I was going to live through this and
> please if he decided to come home not to drive fast cause I did not
> want him to die in an accident. I went out on the porch, I wanted to
> see the dogs and horses one last time, I stood there looking at the sky
> and told myself it was ok there was nothing I could to do, I had fought
> as long and hard as I could.
>
> My eldest lives next door (his dad had called him and told him to come
> over cause I was dieing) I am chuckling now as I am writing this down
> cause I am kind of embraced but it was not even funny while it was
> happening. My son got me some 02 and a coat because I was shaking all
> over and he talked with me and distracted me from the pain as he made
> me something to eat. I ate the little food and my hart quit pounding, I
> quit shivering and I lay there all bundled up an exhausted. I was out
> the rest of the day.
>
> Next day I woke up with the rotten beginnings of the headache again and
> wore an I pack all day around my neck. That went on till Monday
> afternoon (I am amazed that I don't have frost bite).
> On my symptom sheet I would have to say that my shoulder pain decreased
> by one to one and a half on the pain level. But that is all. That
> horrid headache is gone but my neck is still very stiff and my sinuses
> drip constantly, and my legs are still very heavy.
> I reported all this to Gary, he said that he would code for horror on
> the next session (among other things). You know I had a horrid (smile)
> child hood, so why did it surprise me that I would have emotional
> issues that would need to be addressed before I would be well again. It
> really is about treating the whole person isn't it?
>
> Lisa S in Washington State.
>

Hi everyone, I realize that some of you may know me from other groups
but the questions that I have are specifically about IRT and any
reactions that you all may have had that has possibly been like mine
and how your out come has been if you have indeed been doing IRT for
long enough.

I just began class 17 and we have done 2 sessions so far. I have had
lyme for 20 years or longer so I fully realize this is going to take
some time to see large improvement. I also believe that with lyme, it
is so insidious; that I am going to aim the full arsenal at it at all
times and IRT is another big gun.

I am home bound but I can do minimal house work and bathe, however the
beauty days are over for me because there is no energy left to do any
of that. I use my energies to stay alive. Although I have been Rifing
for seven months and using MMS for 3 months I feel those thing (as good
as they are) are just keeping me alive.

To tell you the truth I don't want to do any of this stuff including
IRT because I am tired of how sick it all makes me feel (HERXING) but
on the other hand I am very great full they are out there because the
alternative is a dirt nap.

The first treatment put me on the couch for Wednesday and Thursday but
really I thought to myself well this is not going to be unbearable, I
can manage. That is until Thursday afternoon; my sister called me and
told me that her son has cancer.  As I was crying over that I got the
most intense headache I have literally ever had in my life. I could
feel the vessels in the back of my head shooting pain through there
branches up through the top of my head.

I went and got an ice pack and wrapped it around my head and felt
crummy for the rest of the day. The next morning I got up and literally
had to shuffle around, my legs were so heavy it felt like I had rocks
in my pant legs. and the head ache was horrendous. I wore an ice pack
all morning. I sat on the couch for 2 hours and I started feeling a
little better. I got up to use the rest room 50 feet away and began to
cry by the time I got there, (any exertion made my head pain
excruciating). My heart started pounding and I began shaking all over
my entire body. If I did not know any better I would say I went into
shock.

Now I am no whine, never have been. Although I can tell you, that was
freaky, and the pain was unbelievable, I was strangely calm in a weird
sort of way. I really in all trueness with no exaggeration thought I
was going to die with in a few moments. I decided to call my husband
and say good bye. So I did. I told him this was the end of my fight
with lyme, I did not believe I was going to live through this and
please if he decided to come home not to drive fast cause I did not
want him to die in an accident. I went out on the porch, I wanted to
see the dogs and horses one last time, I stood there looking at the sky
and told myself it was ok there was nothing I could to do, I had fought
as long and hard as I could.

My eldest lives next door (his dad had called him and told him to come
over cause I was dieing) I am chuckling now as I am writing this down
cause I am kind of embraced but it was not even funny while it was
happening. My son got me some 02 and a coat because I was shaking all
over and he talked with me and distracted me from the pain as he made
me something to eat. I ate the little food and my hart quit pounding, I
quit shivering and I lay there all bundled up an exhausted. I was out
the rest of the day.

Next day I woke up with the rotten beginnings of the headache again and
wore an I pack all day around my neck. That went on till Monday
afternoon (I am amazed that I don't have frost bite).
On my symptom sheet I would have to say that my shoulder pain decreased
by one to one and a half on the pain level. But that is all. That
horrid headache is gone but my neck is still very stiff and my sinuses
drip constantly, and my legs are still very heavy.
I reported all this to Gary, he said that he would code for horror on
the next session (among other things). You know I had a horrid (smile)
child hood, so why did it surprise me that I would have emotional
issues that would need to be addressed before I would be well again. It
really is about treating the whole person isn't it?

Lisa S in Washington State.

Hi,
Typically, a bull's eye rash would be indicative of a fresh bite and
localized infection. Not sure where yours came from or that it would
have anything to do with your treatment. But Lyme disease does weird
things to us. I would check with Gary on that one.

I did have another tick bite last year that produced a rash but I had
no other symptoms after that.

DC

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "lindalamb51" <lindaottley@...> wrote:
>
> I recently had an IRT treatment and the next day I suddenly got a
large, reddish, welt like,
> VERY ITCHY circular rash on my abdomen.  Over the last week it has
increased in size and
> looks suspiciously like a bull's-eye rash.  I was misdiagnosed 12
years ago when I got Lyme
> disease, partly because (I'm sure) I never saw a tick or a rash.  I
am appealing to anyone out
> there with more knowledge than I, about the Lyme rashes.  Are the
bull's-eye rashes raised
> and itchy?  This one is gradually diminishing in color but still
itches.  Does it mean anything
> that I suddenly have one???
> Linda
>

Hi,

I have been doing IRT since September, just rolled
over into group 16.  I am also on abx, have been for
10 months now.  I am not yet ready to go off abx.  I
also use a doug coil machine, although I am not too
sure how effective it is while on abx.

If a full set of codes are too much for you to handle
at once, you can do half at a time.  They are emailed
to you, so you could do half of them when you read
them to yourself.  I read them to myself, because I
can't stay on the call and listen to the music etc.
while at work.

I am not sure how it is doing IRT while on abx.  I
keep thinking I need to get off them soon and maybe
just try the IRT by itself (along with doug coil).
However, I recently started treating babesia (I think
a lot of my symptoms are from that now, along with
some lingering lyme symptoms, but I am not sure- no
positive blood test for babesia).  I don't want to go
off the mepron/zith for babesia quite yet.  I got a
hugh herx from that along with using my doug coil-
this happened twice for me last month and afterwards
did IRT codes and the herx went away....


I would ask about doing half of the codes at a time
since you are herxing a lot.  How long have you been
on abx?  How long do you think you have had lyme?

I do think IRT is helping me, but I feel that I still
have a lot of bugs to kill.

Maureen




--- cl <cronelesbo@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have been reading with great interest the
> various approaches to IRT and adjunct therapies.
> I'd like to know if others did/are doing IRT and
> still
> on ABs?
> Or if you started being on ABs as the sametime as
> IRT
> and then
> what?
>
> I wonder what homoepath remedies are being referred
> to?
> Are they alcohol free?  Do they make you herx too?
>
> In my opinion, I don't feel that ABs are a cure for
> lyme
> either, although I went on them (and still am) when
> first
> diagnosed because I have had lyme for many years and
> was
> so grievously ill I needed something fast to stop
> the
> progression at least. I was losing my mind and
> ability
> to walk so I didn't have time
> for slow but sure therapies. I also didn't know yet
> about IRT and
> Rife.  I have always done accupuncuture
> which I find invaluable for my CNS involvement and
> whatever is up that week.  I have a wonderful very
> knowledgeable L.ac. which really makes a difference
> with lyme. So many are not familiar with lyme, like
> the general population...
>
> I just started IRT last week and recently switched
> to
> a new AB after
> trying to go off my old one and experiencing a
> relapse
> of symptoms
> really bad.   I get anxiety so bad I want to die,
> it's
> hard to explain if one hasn't experienced it but it
> is
> a monster! For me it is intolerable, more so than
> the
> depression and unrelenting fatigue. My plan is and
> always has been to get off the ABs.  And I hope to
> begin pulsing as soon as my body settles down.  And
> then get off them all together.  I'd also like to
> try
> MMS, but not now, too many things going on.  I'm
> interested in Rifing but would like to see the IRT
> work.  I don't believe there's a miracle cure and
> I'm
> willing to give it plenty of time to work.
>
> The IRT people advised me not to change anything
> when
> starting which makes sense cause then of course,
> it's
> hard to know what's doing what.
> I'm herxing now.  Any thoughts on herxing and this
> week's session?
> Maybe I should hang up early on the codes to avoid
> to
> much herxing?
> I begin spring semester school very soon and I must
> get there beginning of semester especially so...
>
> Please email me off list to make sure I get it at:
> cronelesbo@...
>
> Thanks all!
>
>
>
> cl
>
> Sometimes the only form of
> transportation one has is a leap of faith.
>
>
>
>
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Yes, doing well thanks.

I have been granted a bit of a reprieve. No one is in any hurry to do
any surgery at this point, thank goodness. I really feel perfectly
normal and well. Just have to keep monitoring things. It may even be
possible to make some improvements without the surgery. I'm all for
that! We'll see.

To be clear, I was off abx when I started IRT and never have been on
them again. As stated in an earlier post, I still think an important
component to my getting well was my determination to have this process
work for me and I put as much thought and energy into that as I could.
  I knew this could work for me.

Again, for me it was still several months before I really began to
feel reasonably normal and about a year or so before I could say I was
truly symptom free. I did experience occasional setbacks or saw little
improvement at some times. There were also colds and flu-like symptoms
that complicated things. I tended to not let these things bother me
though and just stayed the course. I knew I was getting better.

All there really is to do is just keep at it and get well.

Best to all,

DC


--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Margherita" <mmdh@...> wrote:
>
> Dave, how are you feeling?  I hope you are doing well.
>
> All the best,
>
> Margherita
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: wdcharboneau
>   To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:47 AM
>   Subject: [LymefreeIRT] Abx and IRT
>
>
>   Hi all,
>   I don't know if this will be of any help but I think it is important
>   to realize that many antibiotics function as immuno-inhibitors. That
>   is they surpress and surplant immune response in order to do their
>   work on the body. Specifically which ones function this way most
>   often, I don't know.
>
>   Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx treatments failed. I
>   recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little else. Based on some
>   early results I was determined to make it work for me. My health was
>   restored within a year.
>
>   I think mixing all the different treatments and procedures only
>   confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing and give it all the
>   support you can to have it work for you. If you don't get the results
>   within a reasonable period of time, move on.
>
>   Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease discover that the
>   antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they effected me and
>   chose to do without them. I do not regret that at all.
>
>   A focused effort at having IRT work for you should yield measurable
>   results within a few weeks. If this is not happening for you, it is
>   appropriate to address any factors that might be getting in the way,
>   put them aside and see what happens. It is unlikely, from what I have
>   seen, that things will get any worse for you. More likely, they will
>   get much better.
>
>   Best wishes,
>
>   DC
>

Hi,
I have been reading with great interest the
various approaches to IRT and adjunct therapies.
I'd like to know if others did/are doing IRT and still
on ABs?
Or if you started being on ABs as the sametime as IRT
and then
what?

I wonder what homoepath remedies are being referred
to?
Are they alcohol free?  Do they make you herx too?

In my opinion, I don't feel that ABs are a cure for
lyme
either, although I went on them (and still am) when
first
diagnosed because I have had lyme for many years and
was
so grievously ill I needed something fast to stop the
progression at least. I was losing my mind and ability
to walk so I didn't have time
for slow but sure therapies. I also didn't know yet
about IRT and
Rife.  I have always done accupuncuture
which I find invaluable for my CNS involvement and
whatever is up that week.  I have a wonderful very
knowledgeable L.ac. which really makes a difference
with lyme. So many are not familiar with lyme, like
the general population...

I just started IRT last week and recently switched to
a new AB after
trying to go off my old one and experiencing a relapse
of symptoms
really bad.   I get anxiety so bad I want to die, it's
hard to explain if one hasn't experienced it but it is
a monster! For me it is intolerable, more so than the
depression and unrelenting fatigue. My plan is and
always has been to get off the ABs.  And I hope to
begin pulsing as soon as my body settles down.  And
then get off them all together.  I'd also like to try
MMS, but not now, too many things going on.  I'm
interested in Rifing but would like to see the IRT
work.  I don't believe there's a miracle cure and I'm
willing to give it plenty of time to work.

The IRT people advised me not to change anything when
starting which makes sense cause then of course, it's
hard to know what's doing what.
I'm herxing now.  Any thoughts on herxing and this
week's session?
Maybe I should hang up early on the codes to avoid to
much herxing?
I begin spring semester school very soon and I must
get there beginning of semester especially so...

Please email me off list to make sure I get it at:
cronelesbo@...

Thanks all!



cl

Hi,
I have been reading with great interest the
various approaches to IRT and adjunct therapies.
I'd like to know if others did/are doing IRT and still
on ABs?
Or if you started being on ABs as the sametime as IRT
and then
what?

I wonder what homoepath remedies are being referred
to?
Are they alcohol free?  Do they make you herx too?

In my opinion, I don't feel that ABs are a cure for
lyme
either, although I went on them (and still am) when
first
diagnosed because I have had lyme for many years and
was
so grievously ill I needed something fast to stop the
progression at least. I was losing my mind and ability
to walk so I didn't have time
for slow but sure therapies. I also didn't know yet
about IRT and
Rife.  I have always done accupuncuture
which I find invaluable for my CNS involvement and
whatever is up that week.  I have a wonderful very
knowledgeable L.ac. which really makes a difference
with lyme. So many are not familiar with lyme, like
the general population...

I just started IRT last week and recently switched to
a new AB after
trying to go off my old one and experiencing a relapse
of symptoms
really bad.   I get anxiety so bad I want to die, it's
hard to explain if one hasn't experienced it but it is
a monster! For me it is intolerable, more so than the
depression and unrelenting fatigue. My plan is and
always has been to get off the ABs.  And I hope to
begin pulsing as soon as my body settles down.  And
then get off them all together.  I'd also like to try
MMS, but not now, too many things going on.  I'm
interested in Rifing but would like to see the IRT
work.  I don't believe there's a miracle cure and I'm
willing to give it plenty of time to work.

The IRT people advised me not to change anything when
starting which makes sense cause then of course, it's
hard to know what's doing what.
I'm herxing now.  Any thoughts on herxing and this
week's session?
Maybe I should hang up early on the codes to avoid to
much herxing?
I begin spring semester school very soon and I must
get there beginning of semester especially so...

Please email me off list to make sure I get it at:
cronelesbo@...

Thanks all!



cl

Sometimes the only form of
transportation one has is a leap of faith.


      
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----- Original Message -----

From: Carrie Jackman

To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:26 PM

Subject: Re: [LymefreeIRT] IRT and MMS

waht is mms?

troycline <TroyCline@cox.net> wrote:

I have not been home, but I plan on using it this weekend, I did five minutes last night and the pulser for 10. Troy

----- Original Message -----

From: Maureen Miller

To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:41 AM

Subject: Re: [LymefreeIRT] IRT and MMS

are you still using your doug coil machine too? how
many drops of mms are you taking, how often? i am
considering adding this a little bit later when I am
off abx, still doing IRT.

Maureen

--- Troy Cline <TroyCline@cox.net> wrote:

> I really think that IRT combined with MMS is really
> effective, the MMS
> is a radical bug killer and IRT causes your brain to
> remember the bugs
> so you are always gaining ground. Troy
>
>
>

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I have not been home, but I plan on using it this weekend, I did five minutes last night and the pulser for 10. Troy

----- Original Message -----

From: Maureen Miller

To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:41 AM

Subject: Re: [LymefreeIRT] IRT and MMS

are you still using your doug coil machine too? how
many drops of mms are you taking, how often? i am
considering adding this a little bit later when I am
off abx, still doing IRT.

Maureen

--- Troy Cline <TroyCline@cox.net> wrote:

> I really think that IRT combined with MMS is really
> effective, the MMS
> is a radical bug killer and IRT causes your brain to
> remember the bugs
> so you are always gaining ground. Troy
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Maureen Miller

To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:41 AM

Subject: Re: [LymefreeIRT] IRT and MMS

are you still using your doug coil machine too? how
many drops of mms are you taking, how often? i am
considering adding this a little bit later when I am
off abx, still doing IRT.

Maureen

--- Troy Cline <TroyCline@cox.net> wrote:

> I really think that IRT combined with MMS is really
> effective, the MMS
> is a radical bug killer and IRT causes your brain to
> remember the bugs
> so you are always gaining ground. Troy
>
>
>

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-Hi Maureen
It is best that I refer you to the web sites that Becky gave on Jan.2
especially www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/craniosacraltherapy.
MM



-- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller <momiller21@...>
wrote:
>
> what is cranioscacral therapy?
>
> Maureen
>
> --- sweeter396 <mmacdonald1029@...> wrote:
>
> > --Hi Cara
> >    I agree with Dave and want you to know that
> > IRT,homeopathy and a
> > little craniosacral therapy  is the complete package
> > for me. I am
> > feeling well enough to be off IRT very soon. I am
> > feeling almost
> > thankful that I am not around any MD in Ontario that
> > even diagnoses
> > let alone uses antibiotics for Lyme.
> > Be well soon
> > Mary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, cara zimmerman
> > <espiritu2espiritu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just wanted to thank you for this note.  It just
> > brought
> > everything back to the basic perspective for me in
> > an instant and was
> > very calming for me.  I get so caught up in reading
> > about all the
> > different things that can be done and people are
> > taking and I have
> > noticed how frustrated I was beginning to get.  Its
> > all very helpful
> > really, someday ;)  For myself I am so sick and at
> > the very beginning
> > of the 'kill the bugs' syndrome that I need to keep
> > it simple and to
> > stop tempting or testing myself with anything else.
> > This is where
> > the frustration and impatience comes in for me
> > 'knowing' my body cant
> > handle any of it other than IRT and homeopathy right
> > now.  Its almost
> > like an addiction for me to hurry up and get better
> > now!  Now that I
> > know something works but not needing to do it all.
> > Whats the rush
> > after being sick for so many years...whats one more.
> >  Thanks Dave.
> > >
> > >   Cara
> > >
> > > wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@> wrote:
> > >           Hi all,
> > > I don't know if this will be of any help but I
> > think it is important
> > > to realize that many antibiotics function as
> > immuno-inhibitors. That
> > > is they surpress and surplant immune response in
> > order to do their
> > > work on the body. Specifically which ones function
> > this way most
> > > often, I don't know.
> > >
> > > Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx
> > treatments failed. I
> > > recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little
> > else. Based on some
> > > early results I was determined to make it work for
> > me. My health was
> > > restored within a year.
> > >
> > > I think mixing all the different treatments and
> > procedures only
> > > confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing
> > and give it all
> > the
> > > support you can to have it work for you. If you
> > don't get the
> > results
> > > within a reasonable period of time, move on.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease
> > discover that the
> > > antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they
> > effected me and
> > > chose to do without them. I do not regret that at
> > all.
> > >
> > > A focused effort at having IRT work for you should
> > yield measurable
> > > results within a few weeks. If this is not
> > happening for you, it is
> > > appropriate to address any factors that might be
> > getting in the way,
> > > put them aside and see what happens. It is
> > unlikely, from what I
> > have
> > > seen, that things will get any worse for you. More
> > likely, they will
> > > get much better.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > DC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>

are you still using your doug coil machine too?  how
many drops of mms are you taking, how often?  i am
considering adding this a little bit later when I am
off abx, still doing IRT.

Maureen

--- Troy Cline <TroyCline@...> wrote:

> I really think that IRT combined with MMS is really
> effective, the MMS
> is a radical bug killer and IRT causes your brain to
> remember the bugs
> so you are always gaining ground.  Troy
>
>
>



      
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I really think that IRT combined with MMS is really effective, the MMS
is a radical bug killer and IRT causes your brain to remember the bugs
so you are always gaining ground.  Troy

--Hi Cara
I agree with Dave and want you to know that IRT,homeopathy and a
little craniosacral therapy is the complete package for me. I am
feeling well enough to be off IRT very soon. I am feeling almost
thankful that I am not around any MD in Ontario that even diagnoses
let alone uses antibiotics for Lyme.
Be well soon
Mary

- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, cara zimmerman
<espiritu2espiritu@...> wrote:
>
> I just wanted to thank you for this note. It just brought
everything back to the basic perspective for me in an instant and was
very calming for me. I get so caught up in reading about all the
different things that can be done and people are taking and I have
noticed how frustrated I was beginning to get. Its all very helpful
really, someday ;) For myself I am so sick and at the very beginning
of the 'kill the bugs' syndrome that I need to keep it simple and to
stop tempting or testing myself with anything else. This is where
the frustration and impatience comes in for me 'knowing' my body cant
handle any of it other than IRT and homeopathy right now. Its almost
like an addiction for me to hurry up and get better now! Now that I
know something works but not needing to do it all. Whats the rush
after being sick for so many years...whats one more. Thanks Dave.
>
> Cara
>
> wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I don't know if this will be of any help but I think it is important
> to realize that many antibiotics function as immuno-inhibitors. That
> is they surpress and surplant immune response in order to do their
> work on the body. Specifically which ones function this way most
> often, I don't know.
>
> Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx treatments failed. I
> recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little else. Based on some
> early results I was determined to make it work for me. My health was
> restored within a year.
>
> I think mixing all the different treatments and procedures only
> confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing and give it all
the
> support you can to have it work for you. If you don't get the
results
> within a reasonable period of time, move on.
>
> Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease discover that the
> antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they effected me and
> chose to do without them. I do not regret that at all.
>
> A focused effort at having IRT work for you should yield measurable
> results within a few weeks. If this is not happening for you, it is
> appropriate to address any factors that might be getting in the way,
> put them aside and see what happens. It is unlikely, from what I
have
> seen, that things will get any worse for you. More likely, they will
> get much better.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>

what is cranioscacral therapy?

Maureen

--- sweeter396 <mmacdonald1029@...> wrote:

> --Hi Cara
>    I agree with Dave and want you to know that
> IRT,homeopathy and a
> little craniosacral therapy  is the complete package
> for me. I am
> feeling well enough to be off IRT very soon. I am
> feeling almost
> thankful that I am not around any MD in Ontario that
> even diagnoses
> let alone uses antibiotics for Lyme.
> Be well soon
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>
> - In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, cara zimmerman
> <espiritu2espiritu@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just wanted to thank you for this note.  It just
> brought
> everything back to the basic perspective for me in
> an instant and was
> very calming for me.  I get so caught up in reading
> about all the
> different things that can be done and people are
> taking and I have
> noticed how frustrated I was beginning to get.  Its
> all very helpful
> really, someday ;)  For myself I am so sick and at
> the very beginning
> of the 'kill the bugs' syndrome that I need to keep
> it simple and to
> stop tempting or testing myself with anything else.
> This is where
> the frustration and impatience comes in for me
> 'knowing' my body cant
> handle any of it other than IRT and homeopathy right
> now.  Its almost
> like an addiction for me to hurry up and get better
> now!  Now that I
> know something works but not needing to do it all.
> Whats the rush
> after being sick for so many years...whats one more.
>  Thanks Dave.
> >
> >   Cara
> >
> > wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@...> wrote:
> >           Hi all,
> > I don't know if this will be of any help but I
> think it is important
> > to realize that many antibiotics function as
> immuno-inhibitors. That
> > is they surpress and surplant immune response in
> order to do their
> > work on the body. Specifically which ones function
> this way most
> > often, I don't know.
> >
> > Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx
> treatments failed. I
> > recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little
> else. Based on some
> > early results I was determined to make it work for
> me. My health was
> > restored within a year.
> >
> > I think mixing all the different treatments and
> procedures only
> > confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing
> and give it all
> the
> > support you can to have it work for you. If you
> don't get the
> results
> > within a reasonable period of time, move on.
> >
> > Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease
> discover that the
> > antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they
> effected me and
> > chose to do without them. I do not regret that at
> all.
> >
> > A focused effort at having IRT work for you should
> yield measurable
> > results within a few weeks. If this is not
> happening for you, it is
> > appropriate to address any factors that might be
> getting in the way,
> > put them aside and see what happens. It is
> unlikely, from what I
> have
> > seen, that things will get any worse for you. More
> likely, they will
> > get much better.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > DC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
> >
>
>
>



      
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I recently had an IRT treatment and the next day I suddenly got a large,
reddish, welt like,
VERY ITCHY circular rash on my abdomen.  Over the last week it has increased in
size and
looks suspiciously like a bull's-eye rash.  I was misdiagnosed 12 years ago when
I got Lyme
disease, partly because (I'm sure) I never saw a tick or a rash.  I am appealing
to anyone out
there with more knowledge than I, about the Lyme rashes.  Are the bull's-eye
rashes raised
and itchy?  This one is gradually diminishing in color but still itches.  Does
it mean anything
that I suddenly have one???
Linda

--Hi Cara
    I agree with Dave and want you to know that IRT,homeopathy and a
little craniosacral therapy  is the complete package for me. I am
feeling well enough to be off IRT very soon. I am feeling almost
thankful that I am not around any MD in Ontario that even diagnoses
let alone uses antibiotics for Lyme.
Be well soon
Mary





- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, cara zimmerman
<espiritu2espiritu@...> wrote:
>
> I just wanted to thank you for this note.  It just brought
everything back to the basic perspective for me in an instant and was
very calming for me.  I get so caught up in reading about all the
different things that can be done and people are taking and I have
noticed how frustrated I was beginning to get.  Its all very helpful
really, someday ;)  For myself I am so sick and at the very beginning
of the 'kill the bugs' syndrome that I need to keep it simple and to
stop tempting or testing myself with anything else.  This is where
the frustration and impatience comes in for me 'knowing' my body cant
handle any of it other than IRT and homeopathy right now.  Its almost
like an addiction for me to hurry up and get better now!  Now that I
know something works but not needing to do it all.  Whats the rush
after being sick for so many years...whats one more.  Thanks Dave.
>
>   Cara
>
> wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@...> wrote:
>           Hi all,
> I don't know if this will be of any help but I think it is important
> to realize that many antibiotics function as immuno-inhibitors. That
> is they surpress and surplant immune response in order to do their
> work on the body. Specifically which ones function this way most
> often, I don't know.
>
> Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx treatments failed. I
> recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little else. Based on some
> early results I was determined to make it work for me. My health was
> restored within a year.
>
> I think mixing all the different treatments and procedures only
> confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing and give it all
the
> support you can to have it work for you. If you don't get the
results
> within a reasonable period of time, move on.
>
> Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease discover that the
> antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they effected me and
> chose to do without them. I do not regret that at all.
>
> A focused effort at having IRT work for you should yield measurable
> results within a few weeks. If this is not happening for you, it is
> appropriate to address any factors that might be getting in the way,
> put them aside and see what happens. It is unlikely, from what I
have
> seen, that things will get any worse for you. More likely, they will
> get much better.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
>

Hi all,
I don't know if this will be of any help but I think it is important
to realize that many antibiotics function as immuno-inhibitors. That
is they surpress and surplant immune response in order to do their
work on the body. Specifically which ones function this way most
often, I don't know.

Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx treatments failed. I
recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little else. Based on some
early results I was determined to make it work for me. My health was
restored within a year.

I think mixing all the different treatments and procedures only
confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing and give it all the
support you can to have it work for you. If you don't get the results
within a reasonable period of time, move on.

Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease discover that the
antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they effected me and
chose to do without them. I do not regret that at all.

A focused effort at having IRT work for you should yield measurable
results within a few weeks. If this is not happening for you, it is
appropriate to address any factors that might be getting in the way,
put them aside and see what happens. It is unlikely, from what I have
seen, that things will get any worse for you. More likely, they will
get much better.

Best wishes,

DC

were you off abx while doing IRT?  I know I should
probably stop taking them, but I just recently started
treating babesia and I keep on thinking I wanted to
give that some time.... am so confused!  I just rolled
into another group and am going to do an emotional
group as well.  I am thinking now that maybe the abx
is supressing what the IRT cannot get to..... because
after changing abx and using the doug coil machine I
had a hugh herx, did an IRT session on Monday and then
a rollover session on Thursday and am so much better
yesterday and today.  I keep thinking that if I go off
abx I may get worse symptom wise initially, but then
better in the long run if IRT can kill what is then
present.....

Maureen
--- wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>  I don't know if this will be of any help but I
> think it is important
> to realize that many antibiotics function as
> immuno-inhibitors. That
> is they surpress and surplant immune response in
> order to do their
> work on the body. Specifically which ones function
> this way most
> often, I don't know.
>
>  Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx
> treatments failed. I
> recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little
> else. Based on some
> early results I was determined to make it work for
> me. My health was
> restored within a year.
>
>  I think mixing all the different treatments and
> procedures only
> confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing
> and give it all the
> support you can to have it work for you. If you
> don't get the results
> within a reasonable period of time, move on.
>
>  Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease
> discover that the
> antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they
> effected me and
> chose to do without them. I do not regret that at
> all.
>
>  A focused effort at having IRT work for you should
> yield measurable
> results within a few weeks. If this is not happening
> for you, it is
> appropriate to address any factors that might be
> getting in the way,
> put them aside and see what happens. It is unlikely,
> from what I have
> seen, that things will get any worse for you. More
> likely, they will
> get much better.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> DC
>
>



      
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----- Original Message -----

From: wdcharboneau

To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:47 AM

Subject: [LymefreeIRT] Abx and IRT

Hi all,
I don't know if this will be of any help but I think it is important
to realize that many antibiotics function as immuno-inhibitors. That
is they surpress and surplant immune response in order to do their
work on the body. Specifically which ones function this way most
often, I don't know.

Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx treatments failed. I
recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little else. Based on some
early results I was determined to make it work for me. My health was
restored within a year.

I think mixing all the different treatments and procedures only
confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing and give it all the
support you can to have it work for you. If you don't get the results
within a reasonable period of time, move on.

Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease discover that the
antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they effected me and
chose to do without them. I do not regret that at all.

A focused effort at having IRT work for you should yield measurable
results within a few weeks. If this is not happening for you, it is
appropriate to address any factors that might be getting in the way,
put them aside and see what happens. It is unlikely, from what I have
seen, that things will get any worse for you. More likely, they will
get much better.

Best wishes,

DC

Hi all,
  I don't know if this will be of any help but I think it is important
to realize that many antibiotics function as immuno-inhibitors. That
is they surpress and surplant immune response in order to do their
work on the body. Specifically which ones function this way most
often, I don't know.

  Again, I turned to IRT after long term abx treatments failed. I
recovered from Lyme disease using IRT and little else. Based on some
early results I was determined to make it work for me. My health was
restored within a year.

  I think mixing all the different treatments and procedures only
confuses and complicates matters. Choose one thing and give it all the
support you can to have it work for you. If you don't get the results
within a reasonable period of time, move on.

  Unfortunately, most of us with Lyme disease discover that the
antibiotics don't work. I couldn't stand how they effected me and
chose to do without them. I do not regret that at all.

  A focused effort at having IRT work for you should yield measurable
results within a few weeks. If this is not happening for you, it is
appropriate to address any factors that might be getting in the way,
put them aside and see what happens. It is unlikely, from what I have
seen, that things will get any worse for you. More likely, they will
get much better.

Best wishes,

DC

Hi Maureen,

It won't be redundant to do both groups.  If you can handle it, it
will just help things go faster for you.  I wish I could do both at
the same time  :)  I'm only doing an emotional group right now since
that's all I can handle at this point.  Just did session 11 with group
6 Tuesday and it's really made me herx.  Besides lots of great
emotional codes in this set, Gary also included codes for neuro bugs
which have come up for me bigtime lately. I'm feelin it.

Ooo, sorry to hear about the backsliding.  Tough stuff.  Hang in
there-- it's all good, and all part of the healing process with all
this (...talking to myself here, too, if you can't tell =0))

If it were me, I'd go off the abx and see how I'd do, but that is just
my personal thought/opinion.  It might be interesting to get someone
who's really good at muscle testing to help in your decision.  You're
rifing as well, right?  And with IRT, you've got quite a good arsenal
there.  But if you can't decide about the abx right now, it's ok
really.  Just take a day at a time and things will become more clear
to you as you go along.

Blessings~
Becky


--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller <momiller21@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am in group #14, which just ended and some of us are
> going into the emotional group and/or rollover group.
> I decided to do both.  Is this going to be reduntant?
> On Mondays I will have the emotional group and on
> Wednesdays the Rollover Group, which I will have to
> read the codes for the rollover group I guess since
> they will be too close together.
>
> Is anyone else in an emotional group?  Did anyone else
> do both an emotional group and rollover group at the
> same time?
>
> I was doing pretty well, changed abx and have been
> backsliding the past month.  Now I am starting to
> think that abx may be preventing all the bugs to come
> out so I can kill them.  Ughh.... not sure if I am
> ready to give them up yet, started treating babesia.
>
> Maureen
> --- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:
>
> > Actually, what's so weird is that despite having a
> > tough holiday
> > season overall (seemed like my symptoms all wanted
> > to come back and
> > strangle me!..emotions, too), I had a good Christmas
> > day.  Was like my
> > Thanksgiving 'milestone' all over again :).  We were
> > invited to
> > another large family's house and we spent the whole
> > afternoon and
> > evening with them.  I was able to eat everything and
> > did fine the next
> > day, slept ok, too..  One of the kids did have a
> > flu, though, and I
> > think I've been fighting that the past week.  Bleh!!
> >
> > Oh, I think I deleted that email :(-- it didn't say
> > much, though, just
> > basically wanted to wish you a happy day since I
> > know you're so far
> > from home and probably were missing family and
> > friends. But i will
> > write again soon :)
> >
> > Blessings~
> > becky
> >
> > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> > <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Becky,
> > >
> > > It's great to hear from you!
> > > Yes, come on down and play some badminton ;)
> > before I hop a plane and
> > > move again.
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear you felt yucky on Christmas...I know
> > some other folks
> > > who felt bad that day, too. Amazing.
> > >
> > > I didn't get your email! Please try to resend it
> > if you can.
> > > I'm so glad to hear you are doing well and that
> > IRT continues to bring
> > > you great benefits :)
> > > That is awesome!
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > COnnie
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Connie!  Badminton and long walks, eh?!  I
> > can't tell you how glad
> > > > I am to hear that!
> > > >
> > > > Ahhh....tennis :-).  I haven't played in a while
> > -- too cold and rainy
> > > > here at this time of year and the indoor courts
> > are spendy.  So, I
> > > > might just have to fly down and play some
> > Badminton with you!  In my
> > > > dreams, but gosh, wouldn't that be fun.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I'm still doing IRT-- Like you, I'm in an
> > 'emotional group' right
> > > > now.  It totally amazes me how much I herx with
> > the codes.  I can
> > > > barely keep up with one session per week the way
> > I'm reacting to these
> > > > things!  I do know that Gary doesn't only do
> > emotional stuff in them,
> > > > but bugs or other issues that come up for
> > individuals, so that might
> > > > explain some of the intensity of this..
> > > >
> > > > I see from your post to Carol that you had a
> > tough holiday time
> > > > symptom-wise.  Boy, I did, too, wowzers.  But
> > then, even through the
> > > > tough weeks I have to say that I have also
> > noticed a deeper strength
> > > > beneath it all than I have had in years.
> > > >
> > > > As far as MMS goes, I am actually not doing it.
> > But I have been
> > > > following your experiences with it, and others,
> > too, with much
> > > > interest...
> > > >
> > > > Big hugs back and keep getting well down there
> > :):) So good to hear
> > > > from you.
> > > > Becky
> > > > P.S.  Did you happen to get the email I sent to
> > you on Christmas?  If
> > > > not, I think yahoo rejected it with a capital
> > "L" because I tried to
> > > > make it pretty :-P
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> > <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Becky!
> > > > >
> > > > > Happy New Year!
> > > > > How are you? It sounds like you are doing
> > marvelously. That is so
> > > > > wonderful to hear!
> > > > > Are you still doing IRT?
> > > > > I thought of you last night when I was playing
> > badmitton with my
> > > > > neighbors in the street at 11 PM...thinking,
> > Becky plays tennis!
> > Wow!
> > > > > But I did pretty well with the badmitton ;)
> > ...I think my healthy,
> > > > > 15-year old opponent was sweating more than I
> > was! Made me feel good
> > > > > about my healing.
> > > > > Anyway, thanks for your great work helping
> > others on this group.
> > > > > You really have a lot of sage advice to offer
> > people.
> > > > > Good luck with the MMS!
> > > > > Be careful...it's powerful. I can't get above
> > 10 drops a day or
> > else I
> > > > > sink into a depression and get really tired
> > (Ive been on it just
> > over
> > > > > 2 weeks).
> > > > > Big hugs to you!
> > > > >
> > > > > Connie
> > > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Connie, Hiya!!  Good to see you here :):)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maureen, I remember those beeps and things
> > happening the first
> > time
> > > > > > codes were read to my group when I first
> > started IRT.  We were
> > > told it
> > > > > > didn't matter--the brain picks up the
> > briefly missed parts just
> > > fine.
> > > > > >  However, if you're still concerned, I agree
> > with Connie that you
> > > > > > should call before the codes are read this
> > coming week and ask
> > what
> > > > > > they think. It won't hurt to do them twice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope you are doing well... and all others
> > reading this, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keep pressing on, and God bless,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Becky
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> > <conniekillbug@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maureen,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can do the codes again, it wouldn't
> > hurt you. But before you
> > > > go to
> > > > > > > the trouble, why don't you call the office
> > and find out whether
> > > > that's
> > > > > > > necessary? It might not be a big deal that
> > you missed a few of
> > > them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Connie
> > > > > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I called in yesterday to hear my group's
> > codes read
> > > > > > > > and while the codes were being read
> > people kept on
> > > > > > > > coming in on the call, so I kept on
> > hearing beeps.  I
> > > > > > > > know  some of the codes were interrupted
> > for me.  I
> > > > > > > > stayed on the call anyway and listened
> > to the cd, got
> > > > > > > > set, listened again, but since i missed
> > some
> === message truncated ===
>
>
>
>
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I just started IRT and I am
on antibiotics (ABS).
Have been for about a year
and 7 months.  I was on
Zithromax (azithromycin)
until just recently and went off it.
In about two weeks some of my
worst symptoms returned. I have
switched to Biaxin (Clarithromycin)
same class of drug.

I am also on Amoxicillin, Artemisin,
and Allicin.

I am working towards pulsing the Biaxin
(like every other day) and pulse Artmisin
on the weekends (take them off).
I would like to get off the Amox altogether.
I haven't decided about Allicin. (A souped
up garlic that is for lyme).

If I had my druthers I would pulse 3-4 weeks
on of stuff and one week off.  But I herx for
at least 5-7 days usually and am still trying
to stay in grad school so can't afford that.

I would also like to hear about people's
experience with doing IRT and ABs, including
herbals.

Please email me offlist to make sure I get it at:
cronelesbo@...

You can post to the list as well if you like,
as long as you're sure to email me offlist too cause
I may not get it otherwise.

Thanks and be well,

I just started IRT and I am
on antibiotics (ABS).
Have been for about a year
and 7 months.  I was on
Zithromax (azithromycin)
until just recently and went off it.
In about two weeks some of my
worst symptoms returned. I have
switched to Biaxin (Clarithromycin)
same class of drug.

I am also on Amoxicillin, Artemisin,
and Allicin.

I am working towards pulsing the Biaxin
(like every other day) and pulse Artmisin
on the weekends (take them off).
I would like to get off the Amox altogether.
I haven't decided about Allicin. (A souped
up garlic that is for lyme).

If I had my druthers I would pulse 3-4 weeks
on of stuff and one week off.  But I herx for
at least 5-7 days usually and am still trying
to stay in grad school so can't afford that.

I would also like to hear about people's
experience with doing IRT and ABs, including
herbals.

Please email me offlist to make sure I get it at:
cronelesbo@...

You can post to the list as well if you like,
as long as you're sure to email me offlist too cause
I may not get it otherwise.

Thanks and be well,

Hi all,

I am in group #14, which just ended and some of us are
going into the emotional group and/or rollover group.
I decided to do both.  Is this going to be reduntant?
On Mondays I will have the emotional group and on
Wednesdays the Rollover Group, which I will have to
read the codes for the rollover group I guess since
they will be too close together.

Is anyone else in an emotional group?  Did anyone else
do both an emotional group and rollover group at the
same time?

I was doing pretty well, changed abx and have been
backsliding the past month.  Now I am starting to
think that abx may be preventing all the bugs to come
out so I can kill them.  Ughh.... not sure if I am
ready to give them up yet, started treating babesia.

Maureen
--- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:

> Actually, what's so weird is that despite having a
> tough holiday
> season overall (seemed like my symptoms all wanted
> to come back and
> strangle me!..emotions, too), I had a good Christmas
> day.  Was like my
> Thanksgiving 'milestone' all over again :).  We were
> invited to
> another large family's house and we spent the whole
> afternoon and
> evening with them.  I was able to eat everything and
> did fine the next
> day, slept ok, too..  One of the kids did have a
> flu, though, and I
> think I've been fighting that the past week.  Bleh!!
>
> Oh, I think I deleted that email :(-- it didn't say
> much, though, just
> basically wanted to wish you a happy day since I
> know you're so far
> from home and probably were missing family and
> friends. But i will
> write again soon :)
>
> Blessings~
> becky
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> <conniekillbug@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Becky,
> >
> > It's great to hear from you!
> > Yes, come on down and play some badminton ;)
> before I hop a plane and
> > move again.
> >
> > Sorry to hear you felt yucky on Christmas...I know
> some other folks
> > who felt bad that day, too. Amazing.
> >
> > I didn't get your email! Please try to resend it
> if you can.
> > I'm so glad to hear you are doing well and that
> IRT continues to bring
> > you great benefits :)
> > That is awesome!
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > COnnie
> >
> >
> > > Hi Connie!  Badminton and long walks, eh?!  I
> can't tell you how glad
> > > I am to hear that!
> > >
> > > Ahhh....tennis :-).  I haven't played in a while
> -- too cold and rainy
> > > here at this time of year and the indoor courts
> are spendy.  So, I
> > > might just have to fly down and play some
> Badminton with you!  In my
> > > dreams, but gosh, wouldn't that be fun.
> > >
> > > Yes, I'm still doing IRT-- Like you, I'm in an
> 'emotional group' right
> > > now.  It totally amazes me how much I herx with
> the codes.  I can
> > > barely keep up with one session per week the way
> I'm reacting to these
> > > things!  I do know that Gary doesn't only do
> emotional stuff in them,
> > > but bugs or other issues that come up for
> individuals, so that might
> > > explain some of the intensity of this..
> > >
> > > I see from your post to Carol that you had a
> tough holiday time
> > > symptom-wise.  Boy, I did, too, wowzers.  But
> then, even through the
> > > tough weeks I have to say that I have also
> noticed a deeper strength
> > > beneath it all than I have had in years.
> > >
> > > As far as MMS goes, I am actually not doing it.
> But I have been
> > > following your experiences with it, and others,
> too, with much
> > > interest...
> > >
> > > Big hugs back and keep getting well down there
> :):) So good to hear
> > > from you.
> > > Becky
> > > P.S.  Did you happen to get the email I sent to
> you on Christmas?  If
> > > not, I think yahoo rejected it with a capital
> "L" because I tried to
> > > make it pretty :-P
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Becky!
> > > >
> > > > Happy New Year!
> > > > How are you? It sounds like you are doing
> marvelously. That is so
> > > > wonderful to hear!
> > > > Are you still doing IRT?
> > > > I thought of you last night when I was playing
> badmitton with my
> > > > neighbors in the street at 11 PM...thinking,
> Becky plays tennis!
> Wow!
> > > > But I did pretty well with the badmitton ;)
> ...I think my healthy,
> > > > 15-year old opponent was sweating more than I
> was! Made me feel good
> > > > about my healing.
> > > > Anyway, thanks for your great work helping
> others on this group.
> > > > You really have a lot of sage advice to offer
> people.
> > > > Good luck with the MMS!
> > > > Be careful...it's powerful. I can't get above
> 10 drops a day or
> else I
> > > > sink into a depression and get really tired
> (Ive been on it just
> over
> > > > 2 weeks).
> > > > Big hugs to you!
> > > >
> > > > Connie
> > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Connie, Hiya!!  Good to see you here :):)
> > > > >
> > > > > Maureen, I remember those beeps and things
> happening the first
> time
> > > > > codes were read to my group when I first
> started IRT.  We were
> > told it
> > > > > didn't matter--the brain picks up the
> briefly missed parts just
> > fine.
> > > > >  However, if you're still concerned, I agree
> with Connie that you
> > > > > should call before the codes are read this
> coming week and ask
> what
> > > > > they think. It won't hurt to do them twice.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope you are doing well... and all others
> reading this, too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep pressing on, and God bless,
> > > > >
> > > > > Becky
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> <conniekillbug@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maureen,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can do the codes again, it wouldn't
> hurt you. But before you
> > > go to
> > > > > > the trouble, why don't you call the office
> and find out whether
> > > that's
> > > > > > necessary? It might not be a big deal that
> you missed a few of
> > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Connie
> > > > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I called in yesterday to hear my group's
> codes read
> > > > > > > and while the codes were being read
> people kept on
> > > > > > > coming in on the call, so I kept on
> hearing beeps.  I
> > > > > > > know  some of the codes were interrupted
> for me.  I
> > > > > > > stayed on the call anyway and listened
> to the cd, got
> > > > > > > set, listened again, but since i missed
> some
=== message truncated ===



      
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Actually, what's so weird is that despite having a tough holiday
season overall (seemed like my symptoms all wanted to come back and
strangle me!..emotions, too), I had a good Christmas day.  Was like my
Thanksgiving 'milestone' all over again :).  We were invited to
another large family's house and we spent the whole afternoon and
evening with them.  I was able to eat everything and did fine the next
day, slept ok, too..  One of the kids did have a flu, though, and I
think I've been fighting that the past week.  Bleh!!

Oh, I think I deleted that email :(-- it didn't say much, though, just
basically wanted to wish you a happy day since I know you're so far
from home and probably were missing family and friends. But i will
write again soon :)

Blessings~
becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie" <conniekillbug@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Becky,
>
> It's great to hear from you!
> Yes, come on down and play some badminton ;) before I hop a plane and
> move again.
>
> Sorry to hear you felt yucky on Christmas...I know some other folks
> who felt bad that day, too. Amazing.
>
> I didn't get your email! Please try to resend it if you can.
> I'm so glad to hear you are doing well and that IRT continues to bring
> you great benefits :)
> That is awesome!
>
> Take care,
>
> COnnie
>
>
> > Hi Connie!  Badminton and long walks, eh?!  I can't tell you how glad
> > I am to hear that!
> >
> > Ahhh....tennis :-).  I haven't played in a while -- too cold and rainy
> > here at this time of year and the indoor courts are spendy.  So, I
> > might just have to fly down and play some Badminton with you!  In my
> > dreams, but gosh, wouldn't that be fun.
> >
> > Yes, I'm still doing IRT-- Like you, I'm in an 'emotional group' right
> > now.  It totally amazes me how much I herx with the codes.  I can
> > barely keep up with one session per week the way I'm reacting to these
> > things!  I do know that Gary doesn't only do emotional stuff in them,
> > but bugs or other issues that come up for individuals, so that might
> > explain some of the intensity of this..
> >
> > I see from your post to Carol that you had a tough holiday time
> > symptom-wise.  Boy, I did, too, wowzers.  But then, even through the
> > tough weeks I have to say that I have also noticed a deeper strength
> > beneath it all than I have had in years.
> >
> > As far as MMS goes, I am actually not doing it.  But I have been
> > following your experiences with it, and others, too, with much
> > interest...
> >
> > Big hugs back and keep getting well down there :):) So good to hear
> > from you.
> > Becky
> > P.S.  Did you happen to get the email I sent to you on Christmas?  If
> > not, I think yahoo rejected it with a capital "L" because I tried to
> > make it pretty :-P
> >
> >
> > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie" <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Becky!
> > >
> > > Happy New Year!
> > > How are you? It sounds like you are doing marvelously. That is so
> > > wonderful to hear!
> > > Are you still doing IRT?
> > > I thought of you last night when I was playing badmitton with my
> > > neighbors in the street at 11 PM...thinking, Becky plays tennis!
Wow!
> > > But I did pretty well with the badmitton ;) ...I think my healthy,
> > > 15-year old opponent was sweating more than I was! Made me feel good
> > > about my healing.
> > > Anyway, thanks for your great work helping others on this group.
> > > You really have a lot of sage advice to offer people.
> > > Good luck with the MMS!
> > > Be careful...it's powerful. I can't get above 10 drops a day or
else I
> > > sink into a depression and get really tired (Ive been on it just
over
> > > 2 weeks).
> > > Big hugs to you!
> > >
> > > Connie
> > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Connie, Hiya!!  Good to see you here :):)
> > > >
> > > > Maureen, I remember those beeps and things happening the first
time
> > > > codes were read to my group when I first started IRT.  We were
> told it
> > > > didn't matter--the brain picks up the briefly missed parts just
> fine.
> > > >  However, if you're still concerned, I agree with Connie that you
> > > > should call before the codes are read this coming week and ask
what
> > > > they think. It won't hurt to do them twice.
> > > >
> > > > Hope you are doing well... and all others reading this, too.
> > > >
> > > > Keep pressing on, and God bless,
> > > >
> > > > Becky
> > > >
> > > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie" <conniekillbug@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Maureen,
> > > > >
> > > > > You can do the codes again, it wouldn't hurt you. But before you
> > go to
> > > > > the trouble, why don't you call the office and find out whether
> > that's
> > > > > necessary? It might not be a big deal that you missed a few of
> them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Connie
> > > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I called in yesterday to hear my group's codes read
> > > > > > and while the codes were being read people kept on
> > > > > > coming in on the call, so I kept on hearing beeps.  I
> > > > > > know  some of the codes were interrupted for me.  I
> > > > > > stayed on the call anyway and listened to the cd, got
> > > > > > set, listened again, but since i missed some of the
> > > > > > codes, i am thinking i should do it again next week.
> > > > > > i wish there was a way they could have blocked out
> > > > > > more callers once they started being read.  I kept on
> > > > > > hearing beeps over the actual codes as people were
> > > > > > coming on the line.  i am not sure if repeating them
> > > > > > is an option.  they are reading the same ones next
> > > > > > week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maureen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Connie,
> > > > > > > Welcome to the group.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> > > > > > > <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You will be in my prayers, too, David.
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the wonderful work you do for so many.
> > > > > > > I have heard of you
> > > > > > > > before and "they" speak highly of you :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Connie
> > > > > > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________________\
____
> > > > > > Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.
> > > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi Becky,

It's great to hear from you!
Yes, come on down and play some badminton ;) before I hop a plane and
move again.

Sorry to hear you felt yucky on Christmas...I know some other folks
who felt bad that day, too. Amazing.

I didn't get your email! Please try to resend it if you can.
I'm so glad to hear you are doing well and that IRT continues to bring
you great benefits :)
That is awesome!

Take care,

COnnie


> Hi Connie!  Badminton and long walks, eh?!  I can't tell you how glad
> I am to hear that!
>
> Ahhh....tennis :-).  I haven't played in a while -- too cold and rainy
> here at this time of year and the indoor courts are spendy.  So, I
> might just have to fly down and play some Badminton with you!  In my
> dreams, but gosh, wouldn't that be fun.
>
> Yes, I'm still doing IRT-- Like you, I'm in an 'emotional group' right
> now.  It totally amazes me how much I herx with the codes.  I can
> barely keep up with one session per week the way I'm reacting to these
> things!  I do know that Gary doesn't only do emotional stuff in them,
> but bugs or other issues that come up for individuals, so that might
> explain some of the intensity of this..
>
> I see from your post to Carol that you had a tough holiday time
> symptom-wise.  Boy, I did, too, wowzers.  But then, even through the
> tough weeks I have to say that I have also noticed a deeper strength
> beneath it all than I have had in years.
>
> As far as MMS goes, I am actually not doing it.  But I have been
> following your experiences with it, and others, too, with much
> interest...
>
> Big hugs back and keep getting well down there :):) So good to hear
> from you.
> Becky
> P.S.  Did you happen to get the email I sent to you on Christmas?  If
> not, I think yahoo rejected it with a capital "L" because I tried to
> make it pretty :-P
>
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie" <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Becky!
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> > How are you? It sounds like you are doing marvelously. That is so
> > wonderful to hear!
> > Are you still doing IRT?
> > I thought of you last night when I was playing badmitton with my
> > neighbors in the street at 11 PM...thinking, Becky plays tennis! Wow!
> > But I did pretty well with the badmitton ;) ...I think my healthy,
> > 15-year old opponent was sweating more than I was! Made me feel good
> > about my healing.
> > Anyway, thanks for your great work helping others on this group.
> > You really have a lot of sage advice to offer people.
> > Good luck with the MMS!
> > Be careful...it's powerful. I can't get above 10 drops a day or else I
> > sink into a depression and get really tired (Ive been on it just over
> > 2 weeks).
> > Big hugs to you!
> >
> > Connie
> > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Connie, Hiya!!  Good to see you here :):)
> > >
> > > Maureen, I remember those beeps and things happening the first time
> > > codes were read to my group when I first started IRT.  We were
told it
> > > didn't matter--the brain picks up the briefly missed parts just
fine.
> > >  However, if you're still concerned, I agree with Connie that you
> > > should call before the codes are read this coming week and ask what
> > > they think. It won't hurt to do them twice.
> > >
> > > Hope you are doing well... and all others reading this, too.
> > >
> > > Keep pressing on, and God bless,
> > >
> > > Becky
> > >
> > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie" <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maureen,
> > > >
> > > > You can do the codes again, it wouldn't hurt you. But before you
> go to
> > > > the trouble, why don't you call the office and find out whether
> that's
> > > > necessary? It might not be a big deal that you missed a few of
them.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Connie
> > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I called in yesterday to hear my group's codes read
> > > > > and while the codes were being read people kept on
> > > > > coming in on the call, so I kept on hearing beeps.  I
> > > > > know  some of the codes were interrupted for me.  I
> > > > > stayed on the call anyway and listened to the cd, got
> > > > > set, listened again, but since i missed some of the
> > > > > codes, i am thinking i should do it again next week.
> > > > > i wish there was a way they could have blocked out
> > > > > more callers once they started being read.  I kept on
> > > > > hearing beeps over the actual codes as people were
> > > > > coming on the line.  i am not sure if repeating them
> > > > > is an option.  they are reading the same ones next
> > > > > week.
> > > > >
> > > > > maureen
> > > > >
> > > > > --- wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Connie,
> > > > > > Welcome to the group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Connie"
> > > > > > <conniekillbug@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You will be in my prayers, too, David.
> > > > > > > Thanks for the wonderful work you do for so many.
> > > > > > I have heard of you
> > > > > > > before and "they" speak highly of you :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Connie
> > > > > > > www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>