HI Anne,

Sorry you are feeling so awful. Seems to be a lot of
bugs going around.
It's interesting that since my daugher has been doing
IRT she has been getting a lot of colds with pretty
high fevers, but, she is recovering from them quite
nicely , where as before she would not get a fever and
the stuff would just linger and linger and linger.

I feel that IRT has helped her immune system to react
to the bugs...before it was doing nothing!

Kirsten is on #14 first go around. She was feeling
really pretty good, then she got the horrible
flu/cold/sore throat...and now she is herxing quite
bad...she's miserable.....it's hard when you have to
go up and down with this stuff.

I hope you can get some more reassurance. But, I feel
like it's a good thing in a way that your immune
system might be kicking in also..who knows...

Blessings on y ou,
Carol
--- nnspence <nnspence@...> wrote:

> I am on my second round of IRT and before I started
> I felt pretty good--
> until the last 3 weeks and then whammo.  I got a
> cold-1st one in 4.5
> years, then I got sinus problems--1st time in 4.5
> years with pounding
> headaches, then this week I have constant diarrhea?
> Could IRT be
> contributing to this.  My remaining Lyme symptoms
> that I had when I
> started group #13 are all still there plus these
> things (also terrible
> cramping in feet, despite upping my magnesium).
> HELP!  Guess I need
> reassurance.  I am back teaching full time and the
> kids do not need a
> sick crabby teacher and I need the job!   Ann
>
>


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----- Original Message -----

From: nnspence

To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:16 PM

Subject: [LymefreeIRT] Feeling awful

I am on my second round of IRT and before I started I felt pretty good--
until the last 3 weeks and then whammo. I got a cold-1st one in 4.5
years, then I got sinus problems--1st time in 4.5 years with pounding
headaches, then this week I have constant diarrhea? Could IRT be
contributing to this. My remaining Lyme symptoms that I had when I
started group #13 are all still there plus these things (also terrible
cramping in feet, despite upping my magnesium). HELP! Guess I need
reassurance. I am back teaching full time and the kids do not need a
sick crabby teacher and I need the job! Ann

I am on my second round of IRT and before I started I felt pretty good--
until the last 3 weeks and then whammo.  I got a cold-1st one in 4.5
years, then I got sinus problems--1st time in 4.5 years with pounding
headaches, then this week I have constant diarrhea?  Could IRT be
contributing to this.  My remaining Lyme symptoms that I had when I
started group #13 are all still there plus these things (also terrible
cramping in feet, despite upping my magnesium).  HELP!  Guess I need
reassurance.  I am back teaching full time and the kids do not need a
sick crabby teacher and I need the job!   Ann

Hey Dirk,
I just wanted to reassure you that reading them yourself is just as
effective as having Celeste or one of us in the office read them.  I
was in Lyme Group 6 and they did not have anyone read them to us
then. I know that I read them incorrectly and it worked just fine...
I'm still symptom-free! It actually worked for me even if I didn't
read them out loud, although I have a habit of at least mumbling
them. So, go right ahead and read them yourself... your eyes will do
the work for you, even if you "read" it wrong out loud or say it
wrong inside your head.

I should introduce myself... I'm Tiffany from Gary's office.  I work
Tuesdays and Thursdays.  Just wanted to say that I'm sorry I didn't
get a chance to post earlier... I've been busy with "work" (at Gary's
and my own jewelry business) and with my husband in and out of
hospitals :)  He's fine now and we're back to trying to catch up on
things.

So, that said, I guess you guys have an "inside" source... I'll try
to get any questions answered for you if you have any specific ones
that the office didn't answer... although I have to say that they
welcome your questions and are very good at getting answers for you.

Well, good luck everyone and I wish everyone the best on their
journey towards health :)

Tiff

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Dirk Coetsee" <dirk.coetsee@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I know this has been discussed briefly before. I was wondering if
anybody
> find the codes more effective listening to Celeste read them versus
reading
> them out? I'm going to have to read the codes for this week's
treatment and
> I'm scared of it not being as effective. I always worry I don't
read some
> words right, sometimes I can't quite make out the letters etc.
>
> Any thoughts welcome.
> Thanks
> Dirk
>

Dirk,

I always have to read the codes on my own because I
work on Mondays and can't stay on the phone, then
listen to the music at work.  I have asked, and
asked..... and Celeste said that they didn't even used
to have someone read the codes.  When she did it, she
read the codes herself too.  I told her that I was
getting myself all crazy because I couldn't read a lot
of the handwriting, she said it doesn't matter.  That
your brain sees it right even if your mind doesn't
know.  She said that even she can't always read it
right and screws up some of the sometimes- she said it
doesn't matter.  Hope that helps.  I think a lot of
people end up reading them instead of listening on the
phone.

How are you doing? What group are you in?

Maureen

--- Dirk Coetsee <dirk.coetsee@...> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I know this has been discussed briefly before. I was
> wondering if anybody
> find the codes more effective listening to Celeste
> read them versus reading
> them out? I'm going to have to read the codes for
> this week's treatment and
> I'm scared of it not being as effective. I always
> worry I don't read some
> words right, sometimes I can't quite make out the
> letters etc.
>
> Any thoughts welcome.
> Thanks
> Dirk
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Well, if that's a stupid question, that makes two of us =o).

I'm guessing it probably doesn't matter, but unless someone else here
knows the answer for sure, I would email or call over there to get
Gary's thought on that one.

Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller <momiller21@...> wrote:
>
>
> I was just wondering that the first 4-5 times I read
> the codes I actually didn't say TY God at the very
> end.  I read it as the 2nd column on the page (last
> item on page) and then proceeded to read the 3rd
> column.  I read it, but not at the very end.  Do you
> think this matters- probably a stupid question?
>
> Thanks, Maureen
>
> --- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:
>
> > Hey, that's great about your symptoms being so much
> > better lately!
> > I'm so glad to hear that.  Made my weekend :o)
> >
> > b
> >
> > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller
> > <momiller21@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Becky,
> > >
> > > Thanks for telling me that.  I'll make sure to
> > send an
> > > email to Gary about my med change.  My lyme
> > symptoms
> > > have been better the past few days, a lot.  I have
> > a
> > > cold now though.
> > >
> > > Maureen
> > >
> > > --- Becky <beckllen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Maureen,  I think the problem with something
> > > > being added or changed
> > > > in the first weeks of IRT is that it is hard to
> > tell
> > > > whehther IRT is
> > > > working or not, whether for Gary or the
> > individual.
> > > > But if you
> > > > already know it is for sure, it's totally ok to
> > > > change/add anything
> > > > you want to after that.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't personally haven't done abx, but from
> > what
> > > > I've heard Gary
> > > > say to others in the groups I've been in, he
> > needs
> > > > to know what's
> > > > going on with your meds to write codes for the
> > > > changes.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.  And I hope you're doing well,
> > > > Becky
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen
> > Miller
> > > > <momiller21@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I visited with my LLMD yesterday and we are
> > going
> > > > to
> > > > > switch my meds- right now I am non
> > clarithromycin
> > > > and
> > > > > plaquenil.  I am going to switch to a
> > different
> > > > > antibiotic (don't have the name in front of
> > me-
> > > > starts
> > > > > with an "r", maybe rophanpin?)  I have done 5
> > > > sessions
> > > > > of IRT so far, I know Gary mentioned in the
> > > > beginning
> > > > > to keep doing what you are doing, will this
> > screw
> > > > me
> > > > > up?  I am not yet ready to stop abx.  Has
> > anyone
> > > > > switched while doing IRT?
> > > > >
> > > > > Maureen
> > > > >
> > > > > --- lymeinva <turnerparsons@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of
> > > > chronic
> > > > > > lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> > > > > > group 11, not planning to rollover.  My
> > symptoms
> > > > are
> > > > > > all gone except
> > > > > > for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT
> > can
> > > > help
> > > > > > rheumatoid
> > > > > > arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via
> > email
> > > > ..
> > > > > > Lisa.
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I was just wondering that the first 4-5 times I read
the codes I actually didn't say TY God at the very
end.  I read it as the 2nd column on the page (last
item on page) and then proceeded to read the 3rd
column.  I read it, but not at the very end.  Do you
think this matters- probably a stupid question?

Thanks, Maureen

--- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:

> Hey, that's great about your symptoms being so much
> better lately!
> I'm so glad to hear that.  Made my weekend :o)
>
> b
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller
> <momiller21@...> wrote:
> >
> > Becky,
> >
> > Thanks for telling me that.  I'll make sure to
> send an
> > email to Gary about my med change.  My lyme
> symptoms
> > have been better the past few days, a lot.  I have
> a
> > cold now though.
> >
> > Maureen
> >
> > --- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Maureen,  I think the problem with something
> > > being added or changed
> > > in the first weeks of IRT is that it is hard to
> tell
> > > whehther IRT is
> > > working or not, whether for Gary or the
> individual.
> > > But if you
> > > already know it is for sure, it's totally ok to
> > > change/add anything
> > > you want to after that.
> > >
> > > I haven't personally haven't done abx, but from
> what
> > > I've heard Gary
> > > say to others in the groups I've been in, he
> needs
> > > to know what's
> > > going on with your meds to write codes for the
> > > changes.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.  And I hope you're doing well,
> > > Becky
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen
> Miller
> > > <momiller21@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I visited with my LLMD yesterday and we are
> going
> > > to
> > > > switch my meds- right now I am non
> clarithromycin
> > > and
> > > > plaquenil.  I am going to switch to a
> different
> > > > antibiotic (don't have the name in front of
> me-
> > > starts
> > > > with an "r", maybe rophanpin?)  I have done 5
> > > sessions
> > > > of IRT so far, I know Gary mentioned in the
> > > beginning
> > > > to keep doing what you are doing, will this
> screw
> > > me
> > > > up?  I am not yet ready to stop abx.  Has
> anyone
> > > > switched while doing IRT?
> > > >
> > > > Maureen
> > > >
> > > > --- lymeinva <turnerparsons@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of
> > > chronic
> > > > > lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> > > > > group 11, not planning to rollover.  My
> symptoms
> > > are
> > > > > all gone except
> > > > > for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT
> can
> > > help
> > > > > rheumatoid
> > > > > arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via
> email
> > > ..
> > > > > Lisa.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Thanks Becky.  I thought about it over the weekend and
I don't think I will switch ABX now, I am having a lot
of improvement, probably from the IRT and I don't want
to change anything I am doing for now.  I am going to
call my doctor today to let her know.

Maureen

--- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:

> Hey, that's great about your symptoms being so much
> better lately!
> I'm so glad to hear that.  Made my weekend :o)
>
> b
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller
> <momiller21@...> wrote:
> >
> > Becky,
> >
> > Thanks for telling me that.  I'll make sure to
> send an
> > email to Gary about my med change.  My lyme
> symptoms
> > have been better the past few days, a lot.  I have
> a
> > cold now though.
> >
> > Maureen
> >
> > --- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Maureen,  I think the problem with something
> > > being added or changed
> > > in the first weeks of IRT is that it is hard to
> tell
> > > whehther IRT is
> > > working or not, whether for Gary or the
> individual.
> > > But if you
> > > already know it is for sure, it's totally ok to
> > > change/add anything
> > > you want to after that.
> > >
> > > I haven't personally haven't done abx, but from
> what
> > > I've heard Gary
> > > say to others in the groups I've been in, he
> needs
> > > to know what's
> > > going on with your meds to write codes for the
> > > changes.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.  And I hope you're doing well,
> > > Becky
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen
> Miller
> > > <momiller21@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I visited with my LLMD yesterday and we are
> going
> > > to
> > > > switch my meds- right now I am non
> clarithromycin
> > > and
> > > > plaquenil.  I am going to switch to a
> different
> > > > antibiotic (don't have the name in front of
> me-
> > > starts
> > > > with an "r", maybe rophanpin?)  I have done 5
> > > sessions
> > > > of IRT so far, I know Gary mentioned in the
> > > beginning
> > > > to keep doing what you are doing, will this
> screw
> > > me
> > > > up?  I am not yet ready to stop abx.  Has
> anyone
> > > > switched while doing IRT?
> > > >
> > > > Maureen
> > > >
> > > > --- lymeinva <turnerparsons@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of
> > > chronic
> > > > > lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> > > > > group 11, not planning to rollover.  My
> symptoms
> > > are
> > > > > all gone except
> > > > > for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT
> can
> > > help
> > > > > rheumatoid
> > > > > arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via
> email
> > > ..
> > > > > Lisa.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Hey, that's great about your symptoms being so much better lately!
I'm so glad to hear that.  Made my weekend :o)

b

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller <momiller21@...> wrote:
>
> Becky,
>
> Thanks for telling me that.  I'll make sure to send an
> email to Gary about my med change.  My lyme symptoms
> have been better the past few days, a lot.  I have a
> cold now though.
>
> Maureen
>
> --- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Maureen,  I think the problem with something
> > being added or changed
> > in the first weeks of IRT is that it is hard to tell
> > whehther IRT is
> > working or not, whether for Gary or the individual.
> > But if you
> > already know it is for sure, it's totally ok to
> > change/add anything
> > you want to after that.
> >
> > I haven't personally haven't done abx, but from what
> > I've heard Gary
> > say to others in the groups I've been in, he needs
> > to know what's
> > going on with your meds to write codes for the
> > changes.
> >
> > Hope this helps.  And I hope you're doing well,
> > Becky
> >
> >
> > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller
> > <momiller21@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I visited with my LLMD yesterday and we are going
> > to
> > > switch my meds- right now I am non clarithromycin
> > and
> > > plaquenil.  I am going to switch to a different
> > > antibiotic (don't have the name in front of me-
> > starts
> > > with an "r", maybe rophanpin?)  I have done 5
> > sessions
> > > of IRT so far, I know Gary mentioned in the
> > beginning
> > > to keep doing what you are doing, will this screw
> > me
> > > up?  I am not yet ready to stop abx.  Has anyone
> > > switched while doing IRT?
> > >
> > > Maureen
> > >
> > > --- lymeinva <turnerparsons@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of
> > chronic
> > > > lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> > > > group 11, not planning to rollover.  My symptoms
> > are
> > > > all gone except
> > > > for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT can
> > help
> > > > rheumatoid
> > > > arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via email
> > ..
> > > > Lisa.
> > > >
> > > >
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Becky,

Thanks for telling me that.  I'll make sure to send an
email to Gary about my med change.  My lyme symptoms
have been better the past few days, a lot.  I have a
cold now though.

Maureen

--- Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:

> Hi Maureen,  I think the problem with something
> being added or changed
> in the first weeks of IRT is that it is hard to tell
> whehther IRT is
> working or not, whether for Gary or the individual.
> But if you
> already know it is for sure, it's totally ok to
> change/add anything
> you want to after that.
>
> I haven't personally haven't done abx, but from what
> I've heard Gary
> say to others in the groups I've been in, he needs
> to know what's
> going on with your meds to write codes for the
> changes.
>
> Hope this helps.  And I hope you're doing well,
> Becky
>
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller
> <momiller21@...> wrote:
> >
> > I visited with my LLMD yesterday and we are going
> to
> > switch my meds- right now I am non clarithromycin
> and
> > plaquenil.  I am going to switch to a different
> > antibiotic (don't have the name in front of me-
> starts
> > with an "r", maybe rophanpin?)  I have done 5
> sessions
> > of IRT so far, I know Gary mentioned in the
> beginning
> > to keep doing what you are doing, will this screw
> me
> > up?  I am not yet ready to stop abx.  Has anyone
> > switched while doing IRT?
> >
> > Maureen
> >
> > --- lymeinva <turnerparsons@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of
> chronic
> > > lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> > > group 11, not planning to rollover.  My symptoms
> are
> > > all gone except
> > > for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT can
> help
> > > rheumatoid
> > > arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via email
> ..
> > > Lisa.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Hi Maureen,  I think the problem with something being added or changed
in the first weeks of IRT is that it is hard to tell whehther IRT is
working or not, whether for Gary or the individual.  But if you
already know it is for sure, it's totally ok to change/add anything
you want to after that.

I haven't personally haven't done abx, but from what I've heard Gary
say to others in the groups I've been in, he needs to know what's
going on with your meds to write codes for the changes.

Hope this helps.  And I hope you're doing well,
Becky


--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Miller <momiller21@...> wrote:
>
> I visited with my LLMD yesterday and we are going to
> switch my meds- right now I am non clarithromycin and
> plaquenil.  I am going to switch to a different
> antibiotic (don't have the name in front of me- starts
> with an "r", maybe rophanpin?)  I have done 5 sessions
> of IRT so far, I know Gary mentioned in the beginning
> to keep doing what you are doing, will this screw me
> up?  I am not yet ready to stop abx.  Has anyone
> switched while doing IRT?
>
> Maureen
>
> --- lymeinva <turnerparsons@...> wrote:
>
> > I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of chronic
> > lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> > group 11, not planning to rollover.  My symptoms are
> > all gone except
> > for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT can help
> > rheumatoid
> > arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via email ..
> > Lisa.
> >
> >
>
>
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I visited with my LLMD yesterday and we are going to
switch my meds- right now I am non clarithromycin and
plaquenil.  I am going to switch to a different
antibiotic (don't have the name in front of me- starts
with an "r", maybe rophanpin?)  I have done 5 sessions
of IRT so far, I know Gary mentioned in the beginning
to keep doing what you are doing, will this screw me
up?  I am not yet ready to stop abx.  Has anyone
switched while doing IRT?

Maureen

--- lymeinva <turnerparsons@...> wrote:

> I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of chronic
> lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> group 11, not planning to rollover.  My symptoms are
> all gone except
> for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT can help
> rheumatoid
> arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via email ..
> Lisa.
>
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I am not sure of the answer, but I would really think
it could.  I know Gary told our group in the beginning
that he would be writing codes for RA.  It helped him
with his chronic illness, wasn't it a degenerative
arthritis or something like that?

congratulations on the other symptoms being gone!  How
long did it take for you?  I am only on my 5th session
of IRT.

Maureen

--- lymeinva <turnerparsons@...> wrote:

> I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of chronic
> lyme.  I'm in Lyme
> group 11, not planning to rollover.  My symptoms are
> all gone except
> for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT can help
> rheumatoid
> arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via email ..
> Lisa.
>
>


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I have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of chronic lyme.  I'm in Lyme
group 11, not planning to rollover.  My symptoms are all gone except
for the arthritis.  Do you think that IRT can help rheumatoid
arthritis?  I've mentioned it to Gary via email ..
Lisa.

Thanks, is she supplying you with herbal blends in
order to help detox?

Maureen

--- wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>  I have a friend who is an herbalist and nutrionist
> who was supplying
> me with herbal blends to help repair damage. Her
> website is
> newportaromatherapy.com. Check out the supplements.
> It's good stuff.
> If you call her she can recommend what she thinks
> will be most helpful.
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Tishara
> <tisharalee@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi what high grade herbal supplements were you
> using?
> >
> >   TC
> >
> > wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@...> wrote:
> >           Wow, that really does seem like
> overkill. That is putting
> a lot of
> > pressure and stress on yourself and on your body.
> I know it sucks
> > being ill and you really want the bugs gone but
> stress gives the bugs
> > the advantage and it will be hard for the body to
> keep up. In other
> > words, I think all that effort could possibly be
> counter-productive.
> >
> > When I was ill I definitely noticed that getting
> stressed out and
> > pushing myself was the last thing I needed. It
> always set me back. I
> > had to learn to relax and just be with things as
> they were. No, it was
> > not easy.
> >
> > When doing IRT that was all I did, with the
> exception of some high
> > grade herbal supplements which I took sparingly
> and saunas for
> > detoxing. I had had enough of the antibiotics
> which did not work for
> > me and were doing almost as much damage as the
> bugs. I let the IRT do
> > its job and otherwise I just took it easy and let
> my body recover.
> > This worked very well for me but it still took
> several months before I
> > felt reasonably normal.
> >
> > As long as you are experiencing some continued
> improvements, just try
> > to be with that and not push too hard. It just
> takes some time. You'll
> > get there.
> >
> > Be well.
> >
> > DC
> >
> > --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "momiller21"
> <momiller21@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Besides IRT, I was wondering what else people
> are doing? Is anyone on
> > > antibiotic or herbal protocols, rifing, etc? I
> am taking antibiotics
> > > now (clarithromycin), plaquenil, cats claw,
> vitamins, lots of
> > > probiotics, milk thistle, use an infrared sauna,
> detox foot pads. I
> > > am purchasing a doug coil machine, so will be
> using that soon, and I
> > > have the equipment for using steam ozone saunas
> (oxygen concentrator,
> > > ozone generator, and portable steam sauna) but
> haven't tried to figure
> > > it all out yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Maureen
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Carol,

Yeah, I've been pretty busy with life again, whew.  Maybe too busy...
but I'm not complaining!! :)

Tennis is a stress-reliever for me, funny as that may sound.  I don't
have the muscle or weight to play hard yet, but thanks to my husband
(and sometimes son) keeping their "mean" skills at bay for me, I can
keep a good volley up.  It's a blast!!  Sat. and Sun. I started
learning to serve---weird stuff, but great fun.  Also how to play at
the net.  I have since found that there are muscles I never knew I had
in my arms and back, whoa! ...so i'm in recoup mode at the moment, hehe.

Sadly, we won't be able to play tennis for much longer now.  It's
getting darker sooner, rainier, and the indoor courts are
astronomically expensive to rent even at a monthy rate.

Yayayay and YAY again about how Kirsten's doing!  That's a big step
that she can do so much more now and able to enjoy life more.  And I
think it's totally awesome about her cortisol and progesterone
experiences.

That chelating stuff can be tough stuff from what I've heard so I
think you're right in having her come home when she starts that.  But
she's young and she's done so well lately.  It will be such a joy to
see how she continues to progress, especially during/after that phase
of things.  And especially now that she's gotten rid of so many of
those horrid flukes.

Well, I am finishing session #8 codes today (got behind my group a
little bit for various reasons) and my heart is really feeling it.  My
head, too. Wow.

Take care, and thanks from my heart for your kind words and for the
encouragement as well.  It means a lot.

Becky


--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Carol wickstrom <surbilly@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Becky,
>
> Hey, haven't seen you on line lately...too busy living eh? It's soo
good to hear that you are doing so well. Tennis for several hours
etc...I am so extremely happy for you. :)
>
> Thanks for asking about Kirsten. Amy D. tested her with muscle
testing and she is not done with those nasty flukes just yet..but, she
sure got rid of tons of them..gross...I think it would have killed her
if they all went at once because it almost did her in as it
was...pretty scary for her...felt like she was going to lose it..pass
out etc..
>
> Kirsten will be doing #13 tomorrow. It just seems that how she
responds to the codes changes each time lately. She used to herx right
away, now it takes a few days sometimes or even longer. SHe said
Friday she had bad, bad joint pain on her lower half of her body but
then woke up Saturday with no pain. so, it's so much different then
the s/c herxing.
>
> I don't really know how she is doing right now as she doesn't really
tell me much..she doesn't want me to worry. I do know that she was
able to lower her cortisol from 30 -25..which might not seem like a
big deal, but, I am praying we can go to 20 soon also...that would be
a huge deal. It wasn't until the progesterone codes that she started
having too much cortisol...it's strange.
>
> She seems to keep up with a ;much busier schedule then she ever did
here at home. I really think the IRT is making her stronger. She went
to two football games...a High school game on Friday night and the big
Texas Tech game on SAturday ....plus meeting people for lunch
etc...she rarely left the house when she was at home. I just worry
about how she is eating..they eat out a lot in Texas...werid..but,
true. Ton's of restaurants...and they even admit it. :)
>
> I hope to see her the first part of November again. :) But, she has
told me she is having more better days then she ever did before IRT.
She was in constant pain before it seems...now it comes and
goes...doesn't stay non stop.
>
> It sure sounds like people who roll over into a new IRT group
benefit from it. I imagine Kirsten will have to do that. Dr. Derkson
will also start chelating her soon as she tests high for heavy metals.
I just really feel that once we get all the toxins, infections, metals
etc..out her body will be able to heal...I don't know how she was even
doing what she was with all that her body is being attacked by..!!
>
> Well, I need to get going...family is waiting for me.
> I pray your healing will continue to amaze you!!!!!!
>
> Carol W.
>
> Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:                               Carol, hi!!!
>
>  It's so great to hear how Kirsten's doing, especially with that
>  progesterone allergy issue not to mention the cortisal issue.  That is
>  totally amazing knowing what I have about her situation... wow.  Like
>  you, I'm so curious to hear how she does further down the road with
>  things.
>
>  How is she doing with her fluke issue?  Has that resolved?  She sure
>  has been hit hard.  Has she had some better days to enjoy lately?
>  Those are pretty rare when one is so sick and has so many different
>  issues to deal with while going through this ordeal of Lyme, tho, I
know.
>
>  Take care and sending both of you love :)
>  Becky
>
>  --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Carol wickstrom <surbilly@> wrote:
>  >
>  > HI Ann,
>  >
>  > I have to say it's 'good'.
>  > Kirsten is on session #12...or has done through 12. Two weeks ago
>  she got a sore throat..and a FEVER..( rarely got a fever before...the
>  virus would just DRAG on..go into her chest...make her miserable).
>  >
>  > Well, she was smart and took a sauna ( we bought her a  one person
>  infra red sauna when she moved out) and she said it got her body temp
>  up to 103..::) She had that bug gone in 4 days...so weird.
>  >
>  > But, I really think the IRT is waking up her immune system...not
>  only that..her cortisol levels are going up..we have to lower her
>  cortisol!!
>  >
>  > And,Gary wrote up some codes for her progesterone allergy.( she  was
>  very allergic to her own progesterone...caused bad cramps..horrible
>  fatigue before period etc...Well, a week after the "codes" she had her
>  period..NO cramps..no sick feeling...it was weird...and it has kind of
>  messed up her hormones..but, we will figure that out! :)
>  >
>  > We shall see what happens with her next cycle...if she still doesn't
>  have cramping etc...I will consider it a victory!!
>  >
>  > So, it seems IRT is helping her...
>  >
>  > Hang in there!!!!
>  > Carol
>  >
>  >
>  > nnspence <nnspence@> wrote:                               Ihave
>  not had any illnesses such as cold, flu etc since I got Lyme and
>  >  this week I got a massive cold with a fever.  Lois thinks this is a
>  >  good sign.  What do you all think?   Ann
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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I like the testimonials.  I think that they are helpful and
informative.  It is great to have each other to keep up on what is
working for some and what is not. I think that it is especially helpful
for those new to IRT to be able to get tips, testimonials and an idea
of what to expect from those that have done and are currently doing IRT.

Blessings to all,

Joy

Carrie,

I have also been on antibiotics 7 months now, and 1
month IRT. I didn't want to stop abx yet, I am working
with a LLMD.

Maureen

--- Carrie Jackman <belle56782@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi maureen, I am using the same antibiotics as you
> and the IRT. I am finally seeing progress after 7
> months on the antibiotics and 3 months of irt. It is
> a very slow progression.
> Carrie
>
> Becky <beckllen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Maureen,
>
> I am using only IRT and it's working great. I
> personally made the
> choice not to add anything alongside for a few
> different reasons, but
> the first and foremost was that, if Gary's IRT stuff
> was for real (and
> if it worked for me), I wanted to watch my
> body/immune system have at
> it all on its own. It's been doing just that for 9
> months now-- truly
> incredible. I am somewhere around 85% better.
> Earlier this evening
> while I was changing the sheets on my family's beds
> (after playing 2+
> hours of tennis!), some of my old symptoms and
> hellish days/nights
> came to my mind. I just started sobbing
> uncontrollably which took me
> completely by surprise-- I felt totally overwhelmed
> by the incredible
> suffering I've gone through for decades and how I
> don't suffer like
> that anymore.
>
> Take care and best wishes,
> Becky
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "momiller21"
> <momiller21@...> wrote:
> >
> > Besides IRT, I was wondering what else people are
> doing? Is anyone on
> > antibiotic or herbal protocols, rifing, etc? I am
> taking antibiotics
> > now (clarithromycin), plaquenil, cats claw,
> vitamins, lots of
> > probiotics, milk thistle, use an infrared sauna,
> detox foot pads. I
> > am purchasing a doug coil machine, so will be
> using that soon, and I
> > have the equipment for using steam ozone saunas
> (oxygen concentrator,
> > ozone generator, and portable steam sauna) but
> haven't tried to figure
> > it all out yet.
> >
> > Thanks, Maureen
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi all,
Just a curiosity. Wondering what everyone thinks of the Lymefree.com
testimonials.
Do you find them informative and compelling?
Do you think of them as real and true and how important do you think
they are as far as reaching others who may me interested in IRT?

Your opinions would be helpful.

Thanks.

DC

Hi,
  I have a friend who is an herbalist and nutrionist who was supplying
me with herbal blends to help repair damage. Her website is
newportaromatherapy.com. Check out the supplements. It's good stuff.
If you call her she can recommend what she thinks will be most helpful.

DC




--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Tishara <tisharalee@...> wrote:
>
> Hi what high grade herbal supplements were you using?
>
>   TC
>
> wdcharboneau <wdcharboneau@...> wrote:
>           Wow, that really does seem like overkill. That is putting
a lot of
> pressure and stress on yourself and on your body. I know it sucks
> being ill and you really want the bugs gone but stress gives the bugs
> the advantage and it will be hard for the body to keep up. In other
> words, I think all that effort could possibly be counter-productive.
>
> When I was ill I definitely noticed that getting stressed out and
> pushing myself was the last thing I needed. It always set me back. I
> had to learn to relax and just be with things as they were. No, it was
> not easy.
>
> When doing IRT that was all I did, with the exception of some high
> grade herbal supplements which I took sparingly and saunas for
> detoxing. I had had enough of the antibiotics which did not work for
> me and were doing almost as much damage as the bugs. I let the IRT do
> its job and otherwise I just took it easy and let my body recover.
> This worked very well for me but it still took several months before I
> felt reasonably normal.
>
> As long as you are experiencing some continued improvements, just try
> to be with that and not push too hard. It just takes some time. You'll
> get there.
>
> Be well.
>
> DC
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "momiller21" <momiller21@> wrote:
> >
> > Besides IRT, I was wondering what else people are doing? Is anyone on
> > antibiotic or herbal protocols, rifing, etc? I am taking antibiotics
> > now (clarithromycin), plaquenil, cats claw, vitamins, lots of
> > probiotics, milk thistle, use an infrared sauna, detox foot pads. I
> > am purchasing a doug coil machine, so will be using that soon, and I
> > have the equipment for using steam ozone saunas (oxygen concentrator,
> > ozone generator, and portable steam sauna) but haven't tried to figure
> > it all out yet.
> >
> > Thanks, Maureen
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Carrie,

I have also been on antibiotics 7 months now, and 1
month IRT. I didn't want to stop abx yet, I am working
with a LLMD.

Maureen

--- Carrie Jackman <belle56782@...> wrote:

> Hi maureen,  I am using the same antibiotics as you
> and the IRT. I am finally seeing progress after 7
> months on the antibiotics and 3 months of irt. It is
> a very slow progression.
>                                             Carrie
>
> Becky <beckllen@...> wrote:
>           Hi Maureen,
>
> I am using only IRT and it's working great. I
> personally made the
> choice not to add anything alongside for a few
> different reasons, but
> the first and foremost was that, if Gary's IRT stuff
> was for real (and
> if it worked for me), I wanted to watch my
> body/immune system have at
> it all on its own. It's been doing just that for 9
> months now-- truly
> incredible. I am somewhere around 85% better.
> Earlier this evening
> while I was changing the sheets on my family's beds
> (after playing 2+
> hours of tennis!), some of my old symptoms and
> hellish days/nights
> came to my mind. I just started sobbing
> uncontrollably which took me
> completely by surprise-- I felt totally overwhelmed
> by the incredible
> suffering I've gone through for decades and how I
> don't suffer like
> that anymore.
>
> Take care and best wishes,
> Becky
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "momiller21"
> <momiller21@...> wrote:
> >
> > Besides IRT, I was wondering what else people are
> doing? Is anyone on
> > antibiotic or herbal protocols, rifing, etc? I am
> taking antibiotics
> > now (clarithromycin), plaquenil, cats claw,
> vitamins, lots of
> > probiotics, milk thistle, use an infrared sauna,
> detox foot pads. I
> > am purchasing a doug coil machine, so will be
> using that soon, and I
> > have the equipment for using steam ozone saunas
> (oxygen concentrator,
> > ozone generator, and portable steam sauna) but
> haven't tried to figure
> > it all out yet.
> >
> > Thanks, Maureen
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Maureen,

I am using only IRT and it's working great. I personally made the
choice not to add anything alongside for a few different reasons, but
the first and foremost was that, if Gary's IRT stuff was for real (and
if it worked for me), I wanted to watch my body/immune system have at
it all on its own. It's been doing just that for 9 months now-- truly
incredible. I am somewhere around 85% better. Earlier this evening
while I was changing the sheets on my family's beds (after playing 2+
hours of tennis!), some of my old symptoms and hellish days/nights
came to my mind. I just started sobbing uncontrollably which took me
completely by surprise-- I felt totally overwhelmed by the incredible
suffering I've gone through for decades and how I don't suffer like
that anymore.

Take care and best wishes,
Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "momiller21" <momiller21@...> wrote:
>
> Besides IRT, I was wondering what else people are doing? Is anyone on
> antibiotic or herbal protocols, rifing, etc? I am taking antibiotics
> now (clarithromycin), plaquenil, cats claw, vitamins, lots of
> probiotics, milk thistle, use an infrared sauna, detox foot pads. I
> am purchasing a doug coil machine, so will be using that soon, and I
> have the equipment for using steam ozone saunas (oxygen concentrator,
> ozone generator, and portable steam sauna) but haven't tried to figure
> it all out yet.
>
> Thanks, Maureen
>

Carol, hi!!!

It's so great to hear how Kirsten's doing, especially with that
progesterone allergy issue not to mention the cortisal issue. That is
totally amazing knowing what I have about her situation... wow. Like
you, I'm so curious to hear how she does further down the road with
things.

How is she doing with her fluke issue? Has that resolved? She sure
has been hit hard. Has she had some better days to enjoy lately?
Those are pretty rare when one is so sick and has so many different
issues to deal with while going through this ordeal of Lyme, tho, I know.

Take care and sending both of you love :)
Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Carol wickstrom <surbilly@...> wrote:
>
> HI Ann,
>
> I have to say it's 'good'.
> Kirsten is on session #12...or has done through 12. Two weeks ago
she got a sore throat..and a FEVER..( rarely got a fever before...the
virus would just DRAG on..go into her chest...make her miserable).
>
> Well, she was smart and took a sauna ( we bought her a one person
infra red sauna when she moved out) and she said it got her body temp
up to 103..::) She had that bug gone in 4 days...so weird.
>
> But, I really think the IRT is waking up her immune system...not
only that..her cortisol levels are going up..we have to lower her
cortisol!!
>
> And,Gary wrote up some codes for her progesterone allergy.( she was
very allergic to her own progesterone...caused bad cramps..horrible
fatigue before period etc...Well, a week after the "codes" she had her
period..NO cramps..no sick feeling...it was weird...and it has kind of
messed up her hormones..but, we will figure that out! :)
>
> We shall see what happens with her next cycle...if she still doesn't
have cramping etc...I will consider it a victory!!
>
> So, it seems IRT is helping her...
>
> Hang in there!!!!
> Carol
>
>
> nnspence <nnspence@...> wrote: Ihave
not had any illnesses such as cold, flu etc since I got Lyme and
> this week I got a massive cold with a fever. Lois thinks this is a
> good sign. What do you all think? Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Carrie,

This is not meant to talk you into anything you don't want to do :),
but I just thought I'd let you know that like others have mentioned,
it also took me over 25 sessions to see significant and
reliable/lasting improvement.   The reason was because there was
always a few symptoms screaming for my attention, making me feel like
nothing was getting better/changing.  But it was.  My symptom chart
consistently told me that.  I chose to make a list of them at one
point and carry it around, reading it often.  It really helped.  That
way, the few symptoms that were so bad, causing all my attention to
focus on them at any given point, couldn't get me down.

I don't know how to describe it very well yet, but it was like my body
had soooo much work to do in my first group -- issue after issue
needed to be dealt with, symptoms came and went and came and went.
But in this second group things are much less heavy and the
improvements are obvious and sticking around for good.  It's great. I
wouldn't skip this phase of things if you paid me.

I have herxed from over half the sessions I've had so far with my new
group, but like Troy and others, I find it doesn't last long at all
and I feel so much better each time. This second group is definitely
getting the bugs that fell through the cracks in my first group.

Have you had Lyme for very long?

Take care :)
Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "Troy Cline" <TroyCline@...> wrote:
>
> Carrie, think about something, have you ever seen these type of
> changes or improvements from antibiotics in the past, also, I hope
> that you realize that you will only pay half if you enter a rollover
> group, it's well worth it, it takes time dear, I do only very
> effectie treatments for lyme, none of them include antibiotics, I am
> doing great, it takes a long time especially if you have been sick
> for years.  If you email me off line, I will give you my number.  God
> bless, Troy
>
> --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Carrie Jackman <belle56782@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have seen a few improvements but it is hard to know if it is the
> antibiotics or the irt. i also herx right after Rx. I just cannot see
> spending a thousand more dollars. cARRIE
> >
> > troycline <TroyCline@> wrote:            Carrie, have you seen
> any changes at all. a changing of your symptoms is a positive sign, I
> always feel worse after IRT but then after the herx, I always feel
> better, it took allot of sessions to get to this point.  When we are
> sick for so long with this disease, it's hard to look at anything in
> a positive light, especially if we have been damaged emotionally.
> Take care, Troy
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Carrie Jackman
> >   To: LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:20 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [LymefreeIRT] Re: Lyme Roller Group Experiences
> >
> >
> >       Hello all,
> >            if I do not see significant improvement in the next five
> sessions I will not rollover. They have enough of my $.
> carrie
> >
> > Linda Ottley <lindaottley@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >   Sofia,
> >   I have seen improvement in some stiffness and pain and overall
> internal improvement, after 21 sessions.  I sort of got "stuck" the
> last 8 weeks after a terrible death in my family.  Hopefully I will
> see new improvement in the "rollover".  It's good to hear others have
> done better the second time around.
> >   Linda
> >
> >
> >   Hi Linda,
> >   You have a good question. I suspect I'm going to be in a roll-
> over
> >   group too. I'm in group 12.
> >
> >
> >   I hope that we get specific codes for our current condition while
> >   we're in a new group. I dont know ...
> >
> >
> >   Have you seen any permanent improvements thus far? I haven't.
> >   Sofia
> >
> >
> >   --- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "lindalamb51" <lindaottley@>
> >   wrote:
> >   Hi,
> >   I just finished Group 10 and will now do a "rollover" to the new
> group, beginning in late October. I think I fit into the area
> of "neurological" problems. Has anyone done a rollover and had more
> success? I am hoping someone has encouragement from
> >   doing so. My question is, "Aren't we just repeating similar codes
> again" and if
> >   so, "Why does this work?" Thank you for any advice anyone may
> have for me.
> >   Linda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Carol, hi!!!

It's so great to hear how Kirsten's doing, especially with that
progesterone allergy issue not to mention the cortisal issue.  That is
totally amazing knowing what I have about her situation... wow.  Like
you, I'm so curious to hear how she does further down the road with
things.

How is she doing with her fluke issue?  Has that resolved?  She sure
has been hit hard.  Has she had some better days to enjoy lately?
Those are pretty rare when one is so sick and has so many different
issues to deal with while going through this ordeal of Lyme, tho, I know.

Take care and sending both of you love :)
Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, Carol wickstrom <surbilly@...> wrote:
>
> HI Ann,
>
> I have to say it's 'good'.
> Kirsten is on session #12...or has done through 12. Two weeks ago
she got a sore throat..and a FEVER..( rarely got a fever before...the
virus would just DRAG on..go into her chest...make her miserable).
>
> Well, she was smart and took a sauna ( we bought her a  one person
infra red sauna when she moved out) and she said it got her body temp
up to 103..::) She had that bug gone in 4 days...so weird.
>
> But, I really think the IRT is waking up her immune system...not
only that..her cortisol levels are going up..we have to lower her
cortisol!!
>
> And,Gary wrote up some codes for her progesterone allergy.( she  was
very allergic to her own progesterone...caused bad cramps..horrible
fatigue before period etc...Well, a week after the "codes" she had her
period..NO cramps..no sick feeling...it was weird...and it has kind of
messed up her hormones..but, we will figure that out! :)
>
> We shall see what happens with her next cycle...if she still doesn't
have cramping etc...I will consider it a victory!!
>
> So, it seems IRT is helping her...
>
> Hang in there!!!!
> Carol
>
>
> nnspence <nnspence@...> wrote:                               Ihave
not had any illnesses such as cold, flu etc since I got Lyme and
>  this week I got a massive cold with a fever.  Lois thinks this is a
>  good sign.  What do you all think?   Ann
>
>
>
>
>
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It's interesting how often I've heard this.  It happened to folks in
my first group as well I remember now.  It definitely happened to me,
too.  I wonder if for some of us it might be that, as Lyme gets killed
off, a latent flu or cold bug comes out to play that was held at bay
previously by the 'big' Lyme bugs.  I know Gary talks about that with
other bugs.  That also might explain why, when there's no cold or flu
going around, quite a few of us get a cold or flu after doing some
Lyme codes.  Just a thought anyway.

Btw, I do know that Gary definitely needs to know about colds and flus
so he can write up codes and get the immune system to deal with them
once and for all.

Blessings,
Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "nnspence" <nnspence@...> wrote:
>
> Ihave not had any illnesses such as cold, flu etc since I got Lyme and
> this week I got a massive cold with a fever.  Lois thinks this is a
> good sign.  What do you all think?   Ann
>

Hi Maureen,

I am using only IRT and it's working great.  I personally made the
choice not to add anything alongside for a few different reasons, but
the first and foremost was that, if Gary's IRT stuff was for real (and
if it worked for me), I wanted to watch my body/immune system have at
it all on its own.  It's been doing just that for 9 months now-- truly
incredible.  I am somewhere around 85% better.  Earlier this evening
while I was changing the sheets on my family's beds (after playing 2+
hours of tennis!), some of my old symptoms and hellish days/nights
came to my mind. I just started sobbing uncontrollably which took me
completely by surprise-- I felt totally overwhelmed by the incredible
suffering I've gone through for decades and how I don't suffer like
that anymore.

Take care and best wishes,
Becky

--- In LymefreeIRT@yahoogroups.com, "momiller21" <momiller21@...> wrote:
>
> Besides IRT, I was wondering what else people are doing?  Is anyone on
> antibiotic or herbal protocols, rifing, etc?  I am taking antibiotics
> now (clarithromycin), plaquenil, cats claw, vitamins, lots of
> probiotics, milk thistle, use an infrared sauna, detox foot pads.  I
> am purchasing a doug coil machine, so will be using that soon, and I
> have the equipment for using steam ozone saunas (oxygen concentrator,
> ozone generator, and portable steam sauna) but haven't tried to figure
> it all out yet.
>
> Thanks, Maureen
>