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Re: [Low_Carb_SF_Bay_Area] OT: politics

Done.

Let's stick to low carb discussions.



"Mrs. Debby (Padilla) Hudson" <debbypadilla@...> wrote:
Lots of things are conservative about Bush, and I
happen to think he's awesome. This is totally off
topic and should not be discussed here. If the
moderator does not step in I shall take leave, as I do
not want to listen to Bush-Bashing. I can say I'm
conservative and I'm voting for Bush if I want to,
what's it to ya?

Luv,
Debby
San Jose, CA


--- Christie Keith <christiekeith@...> wrote:

> >> I'm a conservative and voting for Bush. Perhaps
> this
> is not the right forum? <<
>
> Well, Barry Goldwater would turn over in his grave.
> Why would a conservative
> ever want to vote for Bush? What is conservative
> about him? To quote Doug
> Bandow, a Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute and a
> former Special Assistant
> to President Reagan, "He is increasing the size and
> power of the U.S.
> government both at home and abroad. He has expanded
> social engineering from
> the American nation to the entire globe. He is
> lavish with dollars on both
> domestic and foreign programs." That's a
> CONSERVATIVE?
>
> Nels Stemm, in a widely quoted blog entry entitled
> "Is Bush a
> Conservative?", wrote, "George W. Bush claims the
> mantle of conservative.
> What is he conserving? Not my tax dollars. Not my
> liberty. Not the moral
> standards of my society. The only thing he seems to
> be conserving - rapidly
> expanding more like it - is the arbitrary power that
> the federal government
> holds over our lives."
>
> How about the words of Clyde Prestowitz, a former
> Goldwater supporter and
> Reagan administration official: "Historically,
> conservatism in the United
> States has meant support for small government,
> balanced budgets, fiscal
> prudence and great skepticism about overseas
> adventures. What I see now is
> an administration that's not for any of these
> things."
>
> Travel back with me in time, to the halcyon days of
> Newt Gingrich and "the
> Contract with America" that included "The Fiscal
> Responsibility Act: A
> balanced budget/tax limitation amendment and a
> legislative line-item veto to
> restore fiscal responsibility to an out-of-control
> Congress."
>
> Now come back to the present and ask yourself just
> how we "turned a
> projected surplus of $5.6 trillion into a projected
> deficit of $4
> trillion--in two years. As the London Financial
> Times observed after Bush's
> second round of tax cuts was passed, this was not
> conservatism but madness.
> 'On the management of fiscal policy, the lunatics
> are now in charge of the
> asylum,' the paper commented. 'Reason cuts no ice;
> economic theory is
> dismissed; and contrary evidence is ignored. But
> watching the world's
> economic superpower slowly destroy perhaps the
> world's most enviable fiscal
> position is something to behold.' " (The Nation, May
> 13, 2004)
>
> Or maybe this from Kevin Phillips: 'The Bush
> Administration is not against
> big government. They're against the portion of it
> that regulates business
> and requires tax increases, against a welfare
> system. When it's the latter,
> they're against big government, but when it's big
> government that takes care
> of the oil industry or bails out financial
> institutions or pumps money into
> the Pentagon, then they tend to be in favor of
> that."
>
> If you want to say you're a Republican and thus are
> voting for Bush, fine.
> If you want to say you are invested in nation
> building, or will do anything
> to preserve tax cuts for the wealthiest people in
> our society, or just like
> the way W grins at a barbeque, fine too.
>
> But don't say "I'm a conservative so I'm voting for
> Bush," because there is
> nothing conservative about the government of George
> W. Bush.
>
> Christie
>
>


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* What we see is mainly what we look for.
* The secret of true greatness is simplicity.

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I'm a conservative and voting for Bush. Perhaps this is not the right forum? Luv, Debby San Jose, CA ... ===== * Never take counsel of your fears. * What we...
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... is not the right forum? << Well, Barry Goldwater would turn over in his grave. Why would a conservative ever want to vote for Bush? What is conservative...
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Lots of things are conservative about Bush, and I happen to think he's awesome. This is totally off topic and should not be discussed here. If the moderator...
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Done. Let's stick to low carb discussions. "Mrs. Debby (Padilla) Hudson" <debbypadilla@...> wrote: Lots of things are conservative about Bush, and I ...
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Let's keep politics off this group. If you want to discuss politics, please do so off list. Mary ... is not the right forum? << Well, Barry Goldwater would...
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