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Re: From Texas, USA

Have you looked into Cilantro as a natural chelator? It is thought by
many to have great abilities for chelating Mercury...Sounds strange
but who knows...I love cilantro it would be no trouble getting me to
eat it! LOL!

My comments on Chelating for Mercury were in regards to the Blood/
Brain Barrier. Most of these drugs cannot pull Mercury from the brain
or Central nervous system directly. I know that many Practioners will
combine DMSA with Lipoic Acid to get the body to excrete it in urine
and Feces. Mercury is also very tricky to locate and many times
biopsies must be done to locate it, but that too is NOT a great idea.

I did state a fact though, MOST MD's will NOT chelate unless the
levels of Lead or any other metal is in what has been "deemed"
dangerous levels. In the case of Lead is it above 45 ug/dL. I don't
deal with mercury poisoning much so I honestly do not know what those
levels would be.

Mercury is unfortunately found everywhere, but is found mostly in
cationic form which is not able to be absorbed into the human body. In
fish mercury is organic and can be absorbed. For someone who really
likes fish the only way to really avoid it is to eat only cold deep
water fish.

I hope your journey with Austism improves. We don't have it, but I am
sure your issues are as grave as mine.

blessings,

Alexandra in Lakewood






I have a friend who has 3 Autistic sons, then a normal functioning
daughter and another son. The boys have gone through all sorts of
testing for heavy metals and were NOT found to have any Lead, Mercury
or any other types of heavy metal Poisoning. Their mother cannot stand
fish so she is completely baffled by how they became Autistic. She
runs the Autistic Parents group for our local school system and in her
case they are thinking it must be a genetic abnormality.

Good luck in your continued


--- In LeadedKids@yahoogroups.com, Tracy McCain <tjmccain@...> wrote:
>
> Joanna,
> Most DAN (Defeat Autism Now) doctors will chelate when heavy
metals are present. You can look for a doctor in your area by looking
up DAN or I believe the Autism Research Institute might link to those
as well. As for damage done, I don't really know. My son has autism
and has consistently tested high for lead. We have been through many
rounds of IV DMPS and EDTA until our insurance quit paying for it. I
am now looking into natural chelation (primarily Modified Citrus
Pectin and NDF).
> Good luck.
> Tracy
> Dallas, TX
>
> Alexandra <alex@...> wrote:
> Dear Joanna,
>
> I may have not introduced myself. My name is Alexandra. I am the
> mother of a severely Lead poisoned 8 year old girl.I have been dealing
> with this for nearly 7 years. That goes to show despite how active one
> is in this realm it is still hard to find other people to talk to
> about this.
>
> In almost every US state MD's will NOT put children through any form
> of chelation unless their blood lead Levels are above 45 ug/dL
> (micrograms per deciliter)their are lots of smaller clinics and
> practitioners who will do "outpatient" chelation, but I do NOT
> recommend it.
>
> The product used to "chelate" or remove Lead is know as EDTA or DMSA
> aka Succimer. It has been around since the 1940's and only truly works
> for Lead removal despite it's recent use by many for attempted removal
> of Mercury in some cases of Autism.
>
> Some MD's will do oral chelation depending on the patients Lead level,
> but ANYTHING done should be done in a medically controlled
> environment. I say this because as I am a person who leans more
> heavily towards natural and alternative medicine, I have heard and
> seen many sad stories of well meaning parents taking their kids to
> private respected clinics and MD's and kids winding up with more
> health issues such as severe Kidney damage and worse because the
> chelation was done improperly. That said, you really need to see if
> you can gain ANY access to the boys medical records. Any Lead level is
> bad depending on the person's susceptibility. If the children already
> had a known history of low IQ's any Lead level will have an effect on
> an already hindered intellect. In the US the old "safe" level was <10.
> It is NOW <5.
>
> I have been through 2 rounds of hospitalized chelation with my
> daughter and 2 rounds of oral chelation following release, however the
> damage was done anyway. Chelating agents act like a magnet to draw the
> Lead out of the body and "encapsulates" it so it can pass safely out
> of the body through the excretory organs. The process cannot remove
> Lead from bone, only the bloodstream, which is where it can still do
> damage. It must be done slowly, carefully and monitored. My daughter
> was hooked up to a slow IV drip for 10 hours a day at the Cleveland
> Clinic, although some places still do injections in the legs (which is
> outdated and not as carefully controlled)
>
> Do you have IQ and medical records for the children? The Lead level
> could be at 14 now in the one child, but if it was much higher at one
> point that could have been what impacted the IQ. You really need a
> baseline to know what you are dealing with. It IS possible that the
> Lead could have had some neurological effects on his behavior now.
> Also as you mentioned there was obviously some problems in the home
> the boys were in. That too could have radical effect. The parent(S)
> behavior and treatment of the boys and if there was known Leaded paint
> or DUST in the home...(my daughter was poisoned from the microscopic
> Lead Dust particles that manifested as Asthma for 10 months BEFORE we
> found out she had Lead poisoning. Being a Clean freak that cause me to
> have my own mental depression for quite awhile...)
>
> The 12 year old who acts like a 6-7 year old, has that child been
> classified as mentally challenged?
>
> Really sounds like these poor kids need Neuro-Psychcological
> evaluations done by bot ha neurologist and a psychologist. the
> neurologist can order labs and do testing to see if there truly are
> neurological problems. the Psych can evaluate for Autism, ADD, abuse
> issues etc. sounds daunting, but it may be what's needed. Are these
> children in protective custody? that may be an issue of getting these
> tests paid for then...
>
> I really hope I could help.
>
> Alexandra in Lakewood
>
> --- In LeadedKids@yahoogroups.com, "jwright2" <groupie2@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Angie,
> >
> > I am not looking for legal or even medical advice, but I would like
> > to know if chelation can stop the continued damage caused to a
> > child's brain.
> >
> > From what I have read, as long as a child's lead level continues to
> > remain above the threshold of 10, neurological damage continues. I
> > also read on WebMD that there are 7 peer reviewed medical articles
> > and that they are trying to lower the threshold to 5.
> >
> > If so, then what steps should a parent take to have the lead
> > removed? We are presenting solutions to the court but none of our
> > team are lawyers, so we are simply looking for solutions.
> >
> > I know the chelation will not undo the damage that has been done, or
> > from what I have read, lead causes permanent, neurological brain
> > damage, primarily retardation. That would lead me to think that if
> > the lead stays in their system, the damage would continue.
> >
> > We do not know what we are working with until the lead is gone... I
> > think.. <:o) That is why I joined this group because you all appear
> > to be parents who are dealing with real life problems caused by lead.
> >
> > If anyone can give me some info, I would greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > Joanna
> >
> >
> >
>





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I am new to this group and joined in hopes of learning more about lead poisoning and what are the actual effects on a child. There are two children that I...
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Dear Joanna, Legally, I can't answer to what can be done. However, in terms of health, the boys need to be removed from the environment where the lead is...
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Hello Angie, I am not looking for legal or even medical advice, but I would like to know if chelation can stop the continued damage caused to a child's brain. ...
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Joanna, I'm still learning about all of this, too. The answers that I've received from dr.s depend upon what kind of dr. they are. The traditional...
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Angie, You are correct about all of this. Westernized MD's AND Homeopaths and Naturopaths acknowledge that the body will displace calcium with Lead. You sound...
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Dear Joanna, I may have not introduced myself. My name is Alexandra. I am the mother of a severely Lead poisoned 8 year old girl.I have been dealing with this...
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Joanna, Most DAN (Defeat Autism Now) doctors will chelate when heavy metals are present. You can look for a doctor in your area by looking up DAN or I believe...
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Have you looked into Cilantro as a natural chelator? It is thought by many to have great abilities for chelating Mercury...Sounds strange but who knows...I...
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I work as a child advocate, so when I mention, "one of my kids" these are not actually my own children. I have two little boys, both with high lead levels, and...
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Do they eat a lot of fish? Other than that, I don't know. News Groups <groupie2@...> wrote: I work as a child advocate, so when I mention, "one of my...
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