Hundreds poisoned

My doctor who managed my EDTA chelaion also performed Vitamin C
therapy for other patients. This was 30g by IV.
Vitamin C IV was never offerered as an alternative to EDTA, so I don't
think it cuts it compared to the task-specific chelators.
However Vitamin C as an oral supplement was prescribed to me as one of
the supplements I require for general health maintenance.

After reading the text below ( Vitamin C is a powerful free radical
getter and chelating agent for heavy metals, i.e. lead, arsenic,
cadmium, and mercury.)I wondered if anyone on the list has tried
vitamin C therapy and if so what is their feeling about it?
Kirk
------------

Almost all animals on earth synthesize their own vitamin C ( ascorbic
acid ) from their blood sugar glucose and do not need it in their
diet. The few exceptions are humans, other primates, guinea pigs, the
red-vented bulbul, the Indian fruit eating bat, the rainbow trout and
the Coho salmon. It is interesting to note that humans are missing
just one of the enzymes in the sequence of enzymes required to
transform blood glucose into vitamin C . Perhaps we still posses the
genetic code for this missing enzyme, but we are unable to access it.
Judging from the amount of vitamin C synthesized per day by common
animals the average person is grossly under-supplied in their daily
vitamin C intake. For example when vitamin C needs are given in mg /
kg / day we have Goat ( 32 to 190 mg/kg/day ), Cow ( 15 to 18 ),
Sheep ( 25 ), Rat ( 39 to198 ), Mouse (33 to 275 ), Squirrel ( 28 ),
Gerbil ( 25 ), Rabbit ( 22 to 226 ), Cat ( 5 to 40 ), Dog (5 to 40 ),
and Pig ( 8 ).1 Now compare this to the recommended daily allowance (
RDA ) of 0.9 mg / kg / day allotted for humans by the federal
government medical professionals.2 Now less you might think that
primates are exceptional in their vitamin C needs note that wild
baboons have blood levels of vitamin C consistent with 10 mg /kg /
day and wild vervet monkeys have blood levels consistent with 3 to 8
mg / kg / day. At this point your common sense should be telling you
that the human RDA of 0.9 mg / kg / day is absurd, ridiculous, and
some people in government need to leave government. For example the
subcommittee on Laboratory Animal Nutrition of the National Research
Council has recommended that most primates be fed vitamin C
supplements ranging from 1.75 to 3.5 grams a day. Now what about the
primate man?

There are over three hundred known enzyme systems for which vitamin C
is essential for healthy functioning. Vitamin C is a powerful free
radical getter and chelating agent for heavy metals, i.e. lead,
arsenic, cadmium, and mercury. As if all this was not enough it is
also a powerful anti- viral and anti-bacterial agent. As a matter of
fact it should be the "drug" of choice of an enlightened medical
profession. Instead it has been maligned, persecuted and suppressed
by what passes in America as good competent medical professionals, as
exemplified by AMA doctors. To prove my above stated claims of
vitamin C being a anti-viral and anti-bacterial agent par excellent
we need look no further than the work of Dr. Fred R. Klenner, M.D.,
former chief of staff at Memorial Hospital in Reidsville, North
Carolina. Below is a partial listing of Dr. Klenner's professional
publications. Please note that the most recent publication is
approximately 40 years ago. I am going to quote from these
publications. I believe you will find Dr. Klenner's work astounding
and it will beg the questions: 1) Why have AMA doctors ignored Dr.
Klenner's work?, 2) Why have so called medical researchers present
and past not reproduced Dr. Klenner's work?, 3) Why does the AMA and
the NIH bad mouth the use of large doses of vitamin C as a anti-viral
and anti-bacterial agent? The answer to these questions is that the
allopathic medical establishment wants control of your illness care
at maximized profit to them! Remember, the AMA is a monopolistic
trade association, not a kind, benevolent, caring association of
doctors looking to bring health and well being to humanity at minimal
cost. No, quite to the contrary. The more doctor office visits, the
more tests, and the more "needed" prescriptions, the greater the cash
flow to the doctor. Heaven forbid that the doctor use a cheap, quick,
safe and effective vitamin like vitamin C to cure a mariad of
bacterial and viral illnesses and diseases. For, who knows, the
patient with more than half a brain might catch on how to take care
of most of their health problem themselves cheaply, quickly, safely,
and effectively, without the need for a AMA doctor.

--- In LeadWorkers@yahoogroups.com, "ingrid Verdonck"
<leadlightsdir@...> wrote:
>
> Some of you asked the question of what levels i had, the level last
count in December was 97 but I had another blood test today and it
takes about a week to come back...

*****************

I assume your December BLL reading is 97 ug/dL.
This is very high and I would have thought would have warranted more
frequent re-testing than 6 or 7 months later.
I have known of cases with similar levels being hospitalised to
receive treatment.
Did you cease exposure to lead work after the December?

It sounds as if you have been left to fend for yourself with regards
to treatment and costs, which surprises me with a high BLL.

I have sent you an email to contact me.

--- In LeadWorkers@yahoogroups.com, <egroup@...> wrote:
>
> Dear LeadWorkers,
> in joining this egroup, our newest member, who is an Australian
leadlighter, posed the following question and I know some of you
might send useful replies on this issue of cost:
> Hi. I have lead poisoning and need information on how I go about
> treatment. I have spent a huge amount on chelation already,and is
there
> any subsadised way of doing this?
> Thanks
> Elizabeth, Moderator, LeadWorkers Egroup
>
              ****************************
My advice is that this would depend on how one determined they
were "lead poisoned".
In some circumstances, it is possible to receive treatment under
Australian Medicare.

If you are hospitalised as a result of your poisoning you will be
treated in hospital accordingly under medicare.

Hospital treatment would be determined by very high blood level and
serious symptoms that require urgent intervention, as opposed to
removal from exposure only, which is standard practice at lower
blood levels.

With private treatment, the treating doctor can structure the costs
so there is some coverage on Medicare. Sometimes this is not
possible due to the way some clinics operate their enterprize.

Another alternative is if the poisoning is occupationally
contracted, medical costs claim on workers' insurance may be
applicable.

IV chelation can be expensive for a full course as required, but why
not investigate alternative chelation by EDTA suppositories, or oral
chelaters such as a prescription of Succimer?

What were the blood lead levels, and what symptoms did the worker
suffer?

I thought you might be interested in this article.

You can view it at, http://www.ohsonline.com/stevens/ohspub.nsf/d3d5b4f938b22b6e8625670c006dbc58/3a589c2221c1cfd88625717700604855?opendocument

Occupational Health and Safety online

Study: Lead Exposure Results In Brain Cell Loss, Damage Years Later

People who worked with lead have significant loss of brain cells and damage to brain tissue 18 years after the exposure, according to a new study published in the May 23 issue of Neurology, the scientific journal of the American Academy of Neurology.

The study examined 532 former employees of a chemical manufacturing plant who had not been exposed to lead for an average of 18 years. The workers had worked at the plant for an average of more than eight years.

The researchers measured the amount of lead accumulated in the workers' bones and used MRI scans to measure the workers' brain volumes and to look for white matter lesions, or small areas of damage in the brain tissue.

The higher the workers' lead levels were, the more likely they were to have smaller brain volumes and greater amounts of brain damage. A total of 36 percent of the participants had white matter lesions. Those with the highest levels of lead were more than twice as likely to have brain damage as those with the lowest lead levels. Those with the highest levels of lead had brain volumes 1.1 percent smaller than those with the lowest lead levels.

"The effect of the lead exposure was equivalent to what would be expected for five years of aging," said study author Walter F. Stewart, PhD, of the Center for Health Research of the Geisinger Health System in Danville, Pa., and the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, MD.

Stewart said the results confirm earlier findings in this same population that people with occupational lead exposure experience declines in their thinking and memory skills years after their exposure. "The effect of lead on the brain is progressive," Stewart said. "These effects are the result of persistent changes in the structure of the brain, not short-term changes in the brain's neurochemistry."

The findings raise new questions, according to Andrew S. Rowland, PhD, of the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, who wrote an editorial accompanying the article. "There have been many studies done on the effects of lead on children's IQ, but the possible effects in other areas, such as attention, aggression, or any mental disorders, have gotten less attention. Exposure to inorganic lead, like that found in paint, remains an important public health problem. And those of us who grew up before the late 1970s still carry high lead levels in our bodies. We need more studies addressing the potential chronic health effects of those exposures."

Forwarded FYI
by Elizabeth O'Brien, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra J. Roseberry" <Seapoint416@...>
To: <leadnet@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:15 PM
Subject: [Leadnet] Emailing: 0510-01


Ref: http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0510-01.htm

Common Dreams Progressive Newswire: Latest news from America's Progressive
Community
www.commondreams.org

       FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
       MAY 10, 2006
       10:31 AM

      CONTACT: Environmental Working Group
       Bill Walker, (510) 444-0973 x301; Lauren Sucher, (202) 667-6982


       Across Generations:
       The Chemical Pollution Mothers & Daughters Share and Inherit

       SACRAMENTO, California - May 10 - The unique bond between a mother and
daughter starts in the womb and lasts a lifetime. This Mother's Day, lab
tests of mothers and their daughters show that they share another, unwanted
bond: a common body burden of industrial chemicals that can be passed down
across generations.

       Tests commissioned by the Environmental Working Group (EWG) of four
mothers and their daughters found that each of the test subjects' blood or
urine was contaminated with an average of 35 consumer product ingredients,
including flame retardants, plasticizers, and stain-proof coatings. These
mixtures of compounds, found in furniture, cosmetics, fabrics, and other
consumer goods, have never been tested for safety. The study is available at
www.ewg.org <http://www.ewg.org/> .

       Earlier EWG body burden testing, as well as tests by the Centers for
Disease Control and other researchers, has found these and many other
chemicals are building up in the bodies of all Americans. But these tests
produced three eye-opening findings about the pollutants that can pass
through a mother's placenta or breast milk into her daughter's body:

       ? All four daughters tested had more chemicals in common with their
mothers than with a group of 16 other women who were tested. This
underscores the long-lasting influence of the pollution passed from mother
to daughter, and their shared exposures as the child grows up.

       ? Much of the chemical burden inherited by daughters at birth will
last for decades, some for a lifetime. The daughters will likely pass on to
their children some of the very chemical molecules they inherited from their
mothers. The estimated age by which a daughter will purge 99 percent of the
inherited pollution found in this study ranges from one day for phthalate
plasticizers, to one year for mercury, to between adolescence and 60 years
for common flame retardants and stain-proofing chemicals, to 166 years for
lead.


       ? Chemicals that persist in the body were found at higher levels in
mothers than daughters, showing how chemicals can build up in the body over
a lifetime. Mothers had an average of 1.5 to 5.2 times more pollution than
their daughters for lead, methyl mercury, brominated flame retardants, and
the Teflon- and Scotchgard-related perfluorochemicals PFOA and PFOS.

       The findings were released today at a briefing at the California State
Capitol. Joining public health advocates and four of the mothers and
daughters were Senate President Pro tem Don Perata, Sen. Deborah Ortiz and
Assemblyman John Laird, authors and co-sponsor of SB 1379, a bill to
establish the nation's first state-level biomonitoring program to track
pollution in people.

       "We monitor the pollution in our air, our water, and even our fish.
It's time to start looking at the pollution in our bodies," said Perata.
"The report discussed today, which shows how chemicals can be passed from
mother to daughter, is another vital reason Californians need the
information provided by SB 1379, which would create the nation's first
statewide biomonitoring program to measure chemical contaminants in humans."

       The mothers and daughters in this study join 64 other people tested in
six EWG biomonitoring programs conducted between 2000 and 2006. In total,
EWG biomonitoring has found 455 different pollutants, pesticides, and
industrial chemicals in the bodies or cord blood of 72 different people -
including 10 newborn babies with an average of 200 chemicals in each child.

       This is a burden of pollution made even more troubling by the lack of
health studies or safeguards for the chemicals' individual or combined toxic
effects. And exposures in early life heighten concerns over health risks.

       "EPA studies show that children from birth to age two are 10 times
more sensitive to cancer-causing chemicals than adults," said Jane Houlihan,
EWG's vice president for research. "Scientists have found that chemicals'
toxic effects can be passed down for four generations, by causing permanent
genetic changes that can be inherited.
       A stew of toxic chemicals is not the legacy mothers want to hand down
to their children."

       ###

To my favourite lead egroups,
I'd be very grateful if anyone could email to me or provide a webaddress for
a labelled graphic/s pointing out the lead components in a car and in a
computer. Just to give you some idea of how many lead uses that entails, I
have put together the following list and would also appreciate feedback on
its accuracy and completeness.
Regards
Elizabeth
PS happy eve of International Lead Poisoning Awareness Day (20 Oct 2005)


Uses of lead in cars and computers
Cars
·        lead acid batteries

·        polyurethane foam (containing 1-2% organo-lead catalyst) as
microcellular foamed polyurethanes also known as high-density urethane foams
from reaction injection moulding (RIM) used in thin section automobile trim
components such as bumper fascia; high-resilience foamed polyurethanes in
seat cushioning; flexible foamed polyurethane polymers in filters, sound
deadening layers, heat and cold insulation, fabric interlining, rug
underlays, cushioning and upholstery

·        PVC in vehicle interiors eg mats; flexible bumper strips; oil and
air filters; body side moulding and mudflaps

·        die cast or die cut, stamped and formed vibration and
sound-dampening and other components

·        seat fabric

·        metal joinery

·        wheel balancing lead weights

·        wheel bearings

·        auto paint

·        solder including radiator solder

·        terne plated metal (lead plated metal) used for fuel tank lining

·        auto body solder used in panel beating/body repair

·        tyres/tires (lead oxide filler material)

·        lubricating oil and grease

·        leaded petrol/gasoline

Computers
   a.. radiation shielding (including leaded glass in monitor screens)
   b.. CRT (cathode ray tube)
   c.. PWB (printed wiring boards)
   d.. PVC coating on electrical cords & wires
   e.. computer disk pack balance weights with adhesive backing
References:

Floyd, Ted and O'Brien, Elizabeth, Good News on Stormwater - Lead Acid
Batteries: The New Stormwater Issue? From LEAD Action News Vol 6 no 3 p 11
1998 www.lead.org.au/lanv6n3/lan6n3-9.html (accessed 19 Oct 2005)

O'Brien, Elizabeth, Dost, Cornelia and Qu, Bei, "GREEN LEAD" - OXYMORON OR
FUTURE VISION? Conference paper to be presented at Minerals Council of
Australia Sustainable Development Conference, Alice Springs, 1 Nov 2005.
Soon to be published at www.minerals.org.au

Patton, Jr., John T.; Vogt, Herwart C.; Foamed polymers containing low
molecular weight urethane modifier compound, United States Patent 4334032
www.freepatentsonline.com/4334032.html (accessed 19 Oct 2005)

Vulcan Lead, Inc. Die Cut, Stamping and Forming Applications
www.vulcanlead.com/newfiles/diecutstamplead.html (accessed 19 Oct 2005)

Vulcan Lead, Inc. Gravity And Die Cast Lead Products
www.vulcanlead.com/newfiles/castleadprod.html (accessed 19 Oct 2005)

Dear Truth Warrior,
as the moderator of this group I give this one warning. Please post messages
about the topic - preventing or managing lead poisoning of workers - or
resign from the group. This is not a forum for political messages, no matter
how worthy, unless they relate to the topic. You will be banned if you do
not comply.
Yours Sincerely
Elizabeth O'Brien

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