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#7449 From: Mike Barnes <drug4development@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 10:25 am
Subject: Re: Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question? 		drug4develop...
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Unfortunately prescription Vitamin D is D2 which is much less effective than D3 in raising your levels. Ironic that supplies over the internet or your food store are more effective than what the doctor can give you.

From: Cher Sunnie <charlyese68@...>
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:03:07 PM
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question?


Thanks guys so much for the info on vitamin D - My PCF put me on 1,000 IU day a year ago Jan. - Saw her in Feb. and she said she would do blood work on my next visit. Hopefully my level will be up, but I have a feeling it's not. If it's not, I will talk to her about doing the "real" vitamin D by prescription or should I just do the over the counter kind.

Do you all think it would be OK to up my over the counter dose to 1,500 before I go back to my doc? I'm taking 3.5 LDN nightly. I think it helps with the fatigue, but I see no other benefits. Have been taking it about a year and a half now.

Char

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> Subject: [LDN_Users] Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question?
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> My PCP put me on 1000 mg/day - just an over the counter
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> 'real vitamin d' and put me on 50,000 iu/day
> (prescription) for 2 weeks and then 3x's a week....that
> brought my vit. d level up to about 30. I continue to take
> the vit. d, 2x/wk, but every 3 months I have the blood work
> performed. He wants to try to keep it between 90-120, since
> I have MS. When it was 90 - I felt really well. I would
> not advise anyone to take mega doses of vitamin d without a
> doctor's supervision! Maybe you should ask your
> neurologist or family doctor about it. From what I've
> read, vit. d is a hormone and the levels need watched
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#7448 From: Crystals MS TM LDN Website <angelindisguise67@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 2:30 am
Subject: OT: Real 4/1 Threat: CONFLICKER VIRUS INFORMATION AND PROTECTION 		angelindisgu...
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Green Dot: Real Virus
 
The links are legit, the threat is real, make sure you're protected.
 
Without all the gibberish and links, make sure you have KB958644 installed on your computer, it's from October and if you're Microsoft Updates are up to date, you should have it.
 
In all versions before Vista, look in the Control Panel "Add/remove programs" and in Vista, "Programs and Features"
 
Look for KB958644 in the list of installed updates.
 
 

 
May there be a miracle in YOUR life today and may you have the EYES to see it.

From My Heart to Yours
Love, Hugs & Blessings,
Crystal
LDN_Users Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years 6 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy.....No Relapses.....


Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website
http://www.freewebs.com/crystalangel6267/index.htm

LDN Website
http://ww.ldninfo.org/

Crystal's LDN Support Group
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Users/

 

LDN MySpace

http://www.myspace.com/lowdosenaltrexone

 

Cris - Case Health - Health Success Stories
http://casehealth.com/case/about.html


Low Dose Naltrexone Database
 
Up the Creek with a Paddle

Skip's Compounding Pharmacy
http://www.skipspharmacy.com/

 

 



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#7447 From: Crystals MS TM LDN Website <angelindisguise67@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 2:19 am
Subject: Extreme Life Extension Resources 		angelindisgu...
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This was on Oprah last week
 
David Murdock took over Dole and turned it into the world's largest producer of fruits and vegetables. At one point, he owned 100 different companies around the world.

Luck finally seemed to be on David's side…until his wife was diagnosed with cancer.

 

http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090305-tows-oz-calorie-restriction/7

 

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May there be a miracle in YOUR life today and may you have the EYES to see it.

From My Heart to Yours
Love, Hugs & Blessings,
Crystal
LDN_Users Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years 6 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy......No Relapses.....


Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website
http://www.freewebs.com/crystalangel6267/index.htm

LDN Website
http://ww.ldninfo.org/

Crystal's LDN Support Group
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Users/

 

LDN MySpace

http://www.myspace.com/lowdosenaltrexone

 

Cris - Case Health - Health Success Stories
http://casehealth.com/case/about.html


Low Dose Naltrexone Database
 
Up the Creek with a Paddle

Skip's Compounding Pharmacy
http://www.skipspharmacy.com/

 

 



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#7446 From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 12:27 am
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		hmich45
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Thanks  Judy;
 
here is the whole story
My wife has Stage IV - adenocarinoma of the uterus .back in Jan 2008 she had a full hystor...with a chemo trail for around 5 months .cancer went into remission .after 3 month check up cancer came back  her abdominal area .chemo again but to no effect ...tom  e rs got bigger .........around Jan 2009 >fluid started building up in her abdominal area ,causing her not to eat and causing alot of dry heaves..........draining her as often as possible
 
well at the beginning of March she was attmited to the hospital dehydrated and unable to eat much.............ten days later she was discharged in worse shape lost another 10 lbs
now at 156 lbs.......weak and still unable to eat properly
 
doc put her on hospice and said there nothing more that can be done
 
So now i'm trying my own way with a Doc that does alternative meds First visit was last week ............this monday we'll get his outcome on his protocol
 
we have been jucing for about 3 weeks now .but again my wife still has not much appatite and is   weak . ...  unable to climb stairs very well
 
I'm not giving up on my wife ....... taking LDN .........she has problem sleeping .....so she takes LDN every other day 3 mg for now
Helmut

 


--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Judy Harford <jlharford@...> wrote:
From: Judy Harford <jlharford@...>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 5:13 PM

This is a great idea. I have nutrition issues also as I had gastric bypass surgery ten years ago, so I've been studying up a lot on this. Even the average person isn't getting enough nutrition through their food. So first I would recommend a good supplement, the best quality you can afford. Then, I would double the amount for a week or two, just until the effects can start to be felt. When my kids were little, I would double their vitamins when they were sick and rarely had to take them to the dr to be put on antibiotics.
 
Then there is the juicing. Raw vegetables and fruits contain most of the nutrients we need and in a way that is absorbed naturally. Remember Jack LaLane. He's in his 90's now and is still doing great, but when he was 18 he was so malnourished he nearly died. Then he started juicing raw vegetables and fruits. Now I juice, too. However, I can't afford to buy a juicer (I've been on disability because of my Fibromyalgia) , so what I do is blend everything in my blender (with a cup of water) and then line a bowl with a cloth and pour the contents into it. Then I draw up the cloth and squeeze the juice out. A little more work but turns out fine. I keep some over ice in front of me all day long. Most things I don't bother to peel or remove the small seeds. Like pears or apples. I toss in whole strawberries, stems and all. I do peel bananas and oranges, but that's because they're pretty bitter.
 
Start with simple things like orange/banana/ pineapple/ spinach. Or carrots/apples/ pears. Or sweet potato/orange/ cinnamon. Even tomato/celery/ cucumber. As you get used to the various tastes branch out into stronger flavored items. Another thing I've done is check out the pasteurized juices they now have at the stores. They are very expensive, but I read the labels for the ingredients and make my own at home. I also add protein powder occasionally or you can make a smoothie by just blending the ingredients with water and adding ice. I've been on LDN now for over two months and I've noticed an amazing difference. However, I've also been trying to eat as healthy as I can along with it. I've had several people comment to me lately how good I look and I just turned 65.
 
Wishing you and your wife well.
Judy H

From: Nonie
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
 
Hi Helmut,
 
Juice fresh organic carrots, celery, parsley, cucumber, beets, dandelion greens other vegetables to help nourish and cure cancer. Several glasses a day.

Nonie


 
Looks like megace works ok.... my wife takes LDN for the last 3 days and can't get much sleep....... .on top of that she came out of the hospital 8 days ago  having malnutrition ploblem and not really eating enough and is getting weaker ............ .loss of muscle tone
and lost weight on top of it
any body have any ideas on what to do
don't know where to turn
the hopital stay did a number on her
Helmut










 








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#7445 From: "Judy Harford" <jlharford@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		judy_harford
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This is a great idea. I have nutrition issues also as I had gastric bypass surgery ten years ago, so I've been studying up a lot on this. Even the average person isn't getting enough nutrition through their food. So first I would recommend a good supplement, the best quality you can afford. Then, I would double the amount for a week or two, just until the effects can start to be felt. When my kids were little, I would double their vitamins when they were sick and rarely had to take them to the dr to be put on antibiotics.
 
Then there is the juicing. Raw vegetables and fruits contain most of the nutrients we need and in a way that is absorbed naturally. Remember Jack LaLane. He's in his 90's now and is still doing great, but when he was 18 he was so malnourished he nearly died. Then he started juicing raw vegetables and fruits. Now I juice, too. However, I can't afford to buy a juicer (I've been on disability because of my Fibromyalgia), so what I do is blend everything in my blender (with a cup of water) and then line a bowl with a cloth and pour the contents into it. Then I draw up the cloth and squeeze the juice out. A little more work but turns out fine. I keep some over ice in front of me all day long. Most things I don't bother to peel or remove the small seeds. Like pears or apples. I toss in whole strawberries, stems and all. I do peel bananas and oranges, but that's because they're pretty bitter.
 
Start with simple things like orange/banana/pineapple/spinach. Or carrots/apples/pears. Or sweet potato/orange/cinnamon. Even tomato/celery/cucumber. As you get used to the various tastes branch out into stronger flavored items. Another thing I've done is check out the pasteurized juices they now have at the stores. They are very expensive, but I read the labels for the ingredients and make my own at home. I also add protein powder occasionally or you can make a smoothie by just blending the ingredients with water and adding ice. I've been on LDN now for over two months and I've noticed an amazing difference. However, I've also been trying to eat as healthy as I can along with it. I've had several people comment to me lately how good I look and I just turned 65.
 
Wishing you and your wife well.
Judy H

From: Nonie
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
 

Hi Helmut,
 
Juice fresh organic carrots, celery, parsley, cucumber, beets, dandelion greens other vegetables to help nourish and cure cancer. Several glasses a day.

Nonie


 

Looks like megace works ok.... my wife takes LDN for the last 3 days and can't get much sleep........on top of that she came out of the hospital 8 days ago  having malnutrition ploblem and not really eating enough and is getting weaker .............loss of muscle tone
and lost weight on top of it
any body have any ideas on what to do
don't know where to turn
the hopital stay did a number on her
Helmut










 







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#7444 From: Nonie <nmsammy@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:02 pm
Subject: RE: New to LDN 		hachiosmom
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Hi Helmut,
 
Juice fresh organic carrots, celery, parsley, cucumber, beets, dandelion greens other vegetables to help nourish and cure cancer. Several glasses a day.

Nonie


 
Looks like megace works ok.... my wife takes LDN for the last 3 days and can't get much sleep........on top of that she came out of the hospital 8 days ago  having malnutrition ploblem and not really eating enough and is getting weaker .............loss of muscle tone
and lost weight on top of it
any body have any ideas on what to do
don't know where to turn
the hopital stay did a number on her
Helmut










 







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#7443 From: "Celia" <celia@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		redharvester...
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My smoothies consist of fruit and veg, whatever you have in the house.   A typical one for me is raspberries, strawberries, a banana, apple and some broccoli, carrots  and a bit of cabbage, then a couple of tablespoons of whey......
Celia

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#7442 From: "Dudley Delany" <DudleyDelany@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		dudley_delany
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Hi Helmut,

This site discusses the side effects normally associated with LDN and how to cope with some of them:

http://tinyurl.com/ldn-side-effects

The Megace should increase your wife's appetite.

In addition, I would suggest light, frequent, and nourishing meals--in addition to a full complement of vitamins, minerals, and other food supplements.

Best regards,

Dudley Delany
http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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#7441 From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		hmich45
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What do smoothies consist of?

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Celia <celia@...> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 1:52 PM

Helmut, get some whey and mix it in smoothies, get the pure whey  - you don't want one with additives etc.  Also  use eggs, I eat two every day, this has kept my weight steady.....
Celia
 
 


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#7440 From: "Celia" <celia@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		redharvester...
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Helmut, get some whey and mix it in smoothies, get the pure whey  - you don't want one with additives etc.  Also  use eggs, I eat two every day, this has kept my weight steady.....
Celia
 
 

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#7439 From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		hmich45
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Looks like megace works ok.... my wife takes LDN for the last 3 days and can't get much sleep........on top of that she came out of the hospital 8 days ago  having malnutrition ploblem and not really eating enough and is getting weaker .............loss of muscle tone
and lost weight on top of it
any body have any ideas on what to do
don't know where to turn
the hopital stay did a number on her
Helmut

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@...> wrote:
From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:30 AM

So......is it ok to take MEGACE with LDN ??

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jaco B <jaco.b7219@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:25 PM


I must have misread the description - "a synthetic derivative of a naturally occurring steroid hormone, progesterone" . Sorry.

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net> wrote:

> From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:58 AM

> Where do you see Megace classified as a
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> Handbook," Megace is classified as a Progestin, one of
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> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
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> There are other appetite stimulants which would be more
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#7438 From: "lump16@..." <lump16@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:22 am
Subject: Re: Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question? 		lumpc1
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The two tests you need are 25(OH)D and your blood calcium, but to tell you the truth, it sounds to me that you doc is not tuned into this new research and theory. My Doc is a resident and is all over this. I talked to the blood letter and she said he opened every ones eyes in the clinic and was helping many people with their chronic pain. He put me on 10,000iu and my 25(OH)D was 77ng/mnl from 70 last Feb.after four months of 10,000iu.

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#7437 From: "lump16@..." <lump16@...>
Date: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:12 am
Subject: Re: Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question? 		lumpc1
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The experts say D-2, that is the script D, is worthless stay D-3 but also by age 30 you need 3,000 iu a day if you are healthy probably more if you have one of the deficient conditions. I doubt very seriously that 1000iu would raise your level much.

 Go to the D counciil page and read to understand this theory, it is the real deal, and go to vitamind3world there is a good write up there. I already posted the link, http://www.sunarc.org/Embry-_JOM_Vit_D-1.pdf 

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#7436 From: nancy nicolaou <nancynic01@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:14 pm
Subject: Re: Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question? 		nancynic01
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CHER YOU MIGHT NOT SEE ANY IMPROVEMENT FROM LDN BUT IN FACT IT COULD BE SLOWING DOWN YOUR MS AND THATS SOMETHING YOU WILL NOT SEE HAVE YOU HAD A RECENT MRI TO SEE IF YOU GOT ANY NEW LESIONS? AND FOR THE VITD3 YOU CAN ORDER IT FROM BIO-TECH PHARM. THEY CARRY DIFFERENT IUS YOU WILL HAVE TO ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT UPING THE VITD3 HIGHER,NANCY
YOU SHOULD HAVE A BLOOD TEST TO CHECK YOUR LEVEL
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From: Cher Sunnie <charlyese68@...>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question?
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 7:03 PM


Thanks guys so much for the info on vitamin D - My PCF put me on 1,000 IU day a year ago Jan. - Saw her in Feb. and she said she would do blood work on my next visit. Hopefully my level will be up, but I have a feeling it's not. If it's not, I will talk to her about doing the "real" vitamin D by prescription or should I just do the over the counter kind.

Do you all think it would be OK to up my over the counter dose to 1,500 before I go back to my doc? I'm taking 3.5 LDN nightly. I think it helps with the fatigue, but I see no other benefits. Have been taking it about a year and a half now.

Char

--- On Sat, 3/28/09, dawnmehalek <dawnmehalek@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: dawnmehalek <dawnmehalek@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [LDN_Users] Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question?
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 5:51 PM
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
> Hi Cher,
>
>
>
> I was 'finally' diagnosed w/RRMS Dec., 2008. In
> Feb, 2008 when my symptoms started, my vit. d level was 8!
> My PCP put me on 1000 mg/day - just an over the counter
> supplement - and sent me to a neurologist.
>
>
>
> The neurologist told me he was going to give me some
> 'real vitamin d' and put me on 50,000 iu/day
> (prescription) for 2 weeks and then 3x's a week....that
> brought my vit. d level up to about 30. I continue to take
> the vit. d, 2x/wk, but every 3 months I have the blood work
> performed. He wants to try to keep it between 90-120, since
> I have MS. When it was 90 - I felt really well. I would
> not advise anyone to take mega doses of vitamin d without a
> doctor's supervision! Maybe you should ask your
> neurologist or family doctor about it. From what I've
> read, vit. d is a hormone and the levels need watched
> closely.
>
>
>
> Here's a very informative website by Dr. Cannell who
> has done much research in the field of vit. d levels, etc.
> You can sign up for their newsletters, too.
>
>
>
> www.vitamindcouncil .org
>
>
>
> This is the same neurologist who took me off Rebif and
> prescribed LDN after asking me to do some research.
> I've been on LDN for about a week - so far so good. I
> have much hope from what I've been reading.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps! Dawn
>
>
>
> --- In LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com, Cher Sunnie <charlyese68@ ...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I have a slow progressive form of MS. Symptoms -
> right leg heavy and have drop foot, balance problems,
> fatigue, and back pain.
>
> >
>
> > My doc did a Vit. D test a year ago, and here was the
> results:
>
> > Vitamin D, 25 Hydroxy test
>
> > Limits 32.0 - 100.0
>
> > My results: 18.9L ng/mL
>
> >
>
> > I weigh 91 lbs. I'm taking 1,000 IU/day - is this
> enough? I haven't had a follow blood test yet to see if
> my levels have come up. What do you all think? Should I be
> taking more?
>
> > Char
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Sat, 3/28/09, lump16@... <lump16@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > From: lump16@... <lump16@...>
>
> > > Subject: [LDN_Users] May want to read though
> this
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> 14-Jul-2008+
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#7435 From: "Dudley Delany" <DudleyDelany@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question? 		dudley_delany
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Hi Char,

I would suggest you get at least the daily dose of vitamin D I myself am taking
as discussed in this site:

http://tinyurl.com/hidden-epidemic

Best regards,

Dudley Delany

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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#7434 From: Cher Sunnie <charlyese68@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question? 		charlyese68
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Thanks guys so much for the info on vitamin D - My PCF put me on 1,000 IU day a
year ago Jan. - Saw her in Feb. and she said she would do blood work on my next
visit.  Hopefully my level will be up, but I have a feeling it's not.  If it's
not, I will talk to her about doing the "real" vitamin D by prescription or
should I just do the over the counter kind.

Do you all think it would be OK to up my over the counter dose to 1,500 before I
go back to my doc?  I'm taking 3.5 LDN nightly.  I think it helps with the
fatigue, but I see no other benefits.  Have been taking it about a year and a
half now.

Char

--- On Sat, 3/28/09, dawnmehalek <dawnmehalek@...> wrote:

> From: dawnmehalek <dawnmehalek@...>
> Subject: [LDN_Users] Re: May want to read though this...Vit. D question?
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 5:51 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             Hi Cher,
>
>
>
> I was 'finally' diagnosed w/RRMS Dec., 2008.  In
> Feb, 2008 when my symptoms started, my vit. d level was 8!
> My PCP put me on 1000 mg/day - just an over the counter
> supplement - and sent me to a neurologist.
>
>
>
> The neurologist told me he was going to give me some
> 'real vitamin d' and put me on 50,000 iu/day
> (prescription) for 2 weeks and then 3x's a week....that
> brought my vit. d level up to about 30.  I continue to take
> the vit. d, 2x/wk, but every 3 months I have the blood work
> performed.  He wants to try to keep it between 90-120, since
> I have MS.  When it was 90 - I felt really well.  I would
> not advise anyone to take mega doses of vitamin d without a
> doctor's supervision!  Maybe you should ask your
> neurologist or family doctor about it.  From what I've
> read, vit. d is a hormone and the levels need watched
> closely.
>
>
>
> Here's a very informative website by Dr. Cannell who
> has done much research in the field of vit. d levels, etc.
> You can sign up for their newsletters, too.
>
>
>
> www.vitamindcouncil .org
>
>
>
> This is the same neurologist who took me off Rebif and
> prescribed LDN after asking me to do some research.
> I've been on LDN for about a week - so far so good. I
> have much hope from what I've been reading.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps!  Dawn
>
>
>
> --- In LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com, Cher Sunnie <charlyese68@ ...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I have a slow progressive form of MS.  Symptoms -
> right leg heavy and have drop foot, balance problems,
> fatigue, and back pain.
>
> >
>
> > My doc did a Vit. D test a year ago, and here was the
> results:
>
> > Vitamin D, 25 Hydroxy test
>
> > Limits 32.0 - 100.0
>
> > My results:  18.9L ng/mL
>
> >
>
> > I weigh 91 lbs.  I'm taking 1,000 IU/day - is this
> enough?  I haven't had a follow blood test yet to see if
> my levels have come up.  What do you all think?  Should I be
> taking more?
>
> > Char
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Sat, 3/28/09, lump16@... <lump16@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > From: lump16@... <lump16@...>
>
> > > Subject: [LDN_Users] May want to read though
> this
>
> > > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> > > Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 2:52 PM
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> > >
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> > >
>
> > >             Mayo clinic on Vitaminn D
>
> > > http://www.reuters.
>
> > > com/article/ pressRelease/ idUS177174+
> 14-Jul-2008+
>
> > > PRN20080714
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________
> _________
>
> > > _________ ___
>
> > >
>
> > > Click
>
> > > to compare life insurance rates.  Great rates,
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#7433 From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		hmich45
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Thanks so much Dudley

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@...> wrote:
From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@...>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:38 PM

Yes.
From: H Mich
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:30 AM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN

So......is it ok to take MEGACE with LDN ??

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jaco B <jaco.b7219@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:25 PM


I must have misread the description - "a synthetic derivative of a naturally occurring steroid hormone, progesterone" . Sorry.

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net> wrote:

> From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:58 AM

> Where do you see Megace classified as a
> steroid?
>
>
>
> According to the 2008 edition of the "Nurses Drug
> Handbook," Megace is classified as a Progestin, one of
> the female sex hormones.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Jaco B
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:15 PM
>
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
>
>
> It is a steroid and probably should not be used with LDN.
> There are other appetite stimulants which would be more
> appropriate: Marinol is one which
>
> does not have any steroid. And it targets the cannabinoid
> receptors.
>
>
>
> Jaco
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com>
>
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:22 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Does ANYONE KNOW IF MEGACE�CAN BE �BE TAKEN
> WITH
>
> > LDN ?
>
> > �
>
> > Wife does not seem to have much of an appetite after
>
> > chemo treatment
>
> > was prescribed megace to give her an appetite
>
> > �
>
> > thanks




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#7432 From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		hmich45
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Thanks so much JACO
 
Helmut

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...> wrote:
From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:40 AM


Hi,

You might want to check up on the drug yourself at

http://www.rxlist. com/megace- drug.htm#

and compare to Marinol which does not apparently have carcinogenic properties.

http://www.rxlist. com/marinol- drug.htm

It's best to be very pro-active when fighting cancer. Check out every prescription and question the doctor's orders. They know what they know
and sometimes that is limited. If you have concerns they don't address you must bring those concerns up to them.

I wish you and your wife the very best outcome,

Jaco

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@yahoo. com> wrote:

> From: H Mich <hmich45@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 2:30 PM

>
> So......is it ok to take MEGACE with
> LDN ??
>
> --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jaco B <jaco.b7219@ yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
> From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@ yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:25 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> I must have misread the description - "a synthetic
> derivative of a naturally occurring steroid hormone,
> progesterone" . Sorry.
>
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@
> webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@
> webtv.net>
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:58 AM
>
> > Where do you see Megace classified as a
> > steroid?
> >
> >
> >
> > According to the 2008 edition of the "Nurses
> Drug
> > Handbook," Megace is classified as a Progestin,
> one of
> > the female sex hormones.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From:
> Jaco B
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:15 PM
> >
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> > ps.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> >
> >
> >
> > It is a steroid and probably should not be used with
> LDN.
> > There are other appetite stimulants which would be
> more
> > appropriate: Marinol is one which
> >
> > does not have any steroid. And it targets the
> cannabinoid
> > receptors.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jaco
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> > com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> > com>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> >
> > > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> > ps.com
> >
> > > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:22 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Does
> ANYONE KNOW IF MEGACE�CAN BE �BE TAKEN
> > WITH
> >
> > > LDN ?
> >
> > > �
> >
> > > Wife does not seem to have much of an appetite
> after
> >
> > > chemo treatment
> >
> > > was prescribed megace to give her an appetite
> >
> > > �
> >
> > > thanks



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#7431 From: "Dudley Delany" <DudleyDelany@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		dudley_delany
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Yes.
From: H Mich
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:30 AM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN

So......is it ok to take MEGACE with LDN ??

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...> wrote:
From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:25 PM


I must have misread the description - "a synthetic derivative of a naturally occurring steroid hormone, progesterone" . Sorry.

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net> wrote:

> From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:58 AM

> Where do you see Megace classified as a
> steroid?
>
>
>
> According to the 2008 edition of the "Nurses Drug
> Handbook," Megace is classified as a Progestin, one of
> the female sex hormones.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Jaco B
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:15 PM
>
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
>
>
> It is a steroid and probably should not be used with LDN.
> There are other appetite stimulants which would be more
> appropriate: Marinol is one which
>
> does not have any steroid. And it targets the cannabinoid
> receptors.
>
>
>
> Jaco
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com>
>
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:22 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Does ANYONE KNOW IF MEGACE�CAN BE �BE TAKEN
> WITH
>
> > LDN ?
>
> > �
>
> > Wife does not seem to have much of an appetite after
>
> > chemo treatment
>
> > was prescribed megace to give her an appetite
>
> > �
>
> > thanks



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#7430 From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		jaco.b7219
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Hi,

You might want to check up on the drug yourself at

http://www.rxlist.com/megace-drug.htm#

and compare to Marinol which does not apparently have carcinogenic properties.

http://www.rxlist.com/marinol-drug.htm

It's best to be very pro-active when fighting cancer.  Check out every
prescription and question the doctor's orders.  They know what they know
and sometimes that is limited.  If you have concerns they don't address you must
bring those concerns up to them.

I wish you and your wife the very best outcome,

Jaco

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@...> wrote:

> From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 2:30 PM

>
>             So......is it ok to take MEGACE with
> LDN ??
>
> --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jaco B <jaco.b7219@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
> From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:25 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> I must have misread the description - "a synthetic
> derivative of a naturally occurring steroid hormone,
> progesterone" . Sorry.
>
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@
> webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@
> webtv.net>
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:58 AM
>
> > Where do you see Megace classified as a
> > steroid?
> >
> >
> >
> > According to the 2008 edition of the "Nurses
> Drug
> > Handbook," Megace is classified as a Progestin,
> one of
> > the female sex hormones.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From:
>  Jaco B
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:15 PM
> >
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> > ps.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> >
> >
> >
> > It is a steroid and probably should not be used with
> LDN.
> > There are other appetite stimulants which would be
> more
> > appropriate: Marinol is one which
> >
> > does not have any steroid. And it targets the
> cannabinoid
> > receptors.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jaco
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> > com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> > com>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> >
> > > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> > ps.com
> >
> > > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:22 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Does
>  ANYONE KNOW IF MEGACE�CAN BE �BE TAKEN
> > WITH
> >
> > > LDN ?
> >
> > > �
> >
> > > Wife does not seem to have much of an appetite
> after
> >
> > > chemo treatment
> >
> > > was prescribed megace to give her an appetite
> >
> > > �
> >
> > > thanks

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#7429 From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:30 pm
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So......is it ok to take MEGACE with LDN ??

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...> wrote:
From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:25 PM


I must have misread the description - "a synthetic derivative of a naturally occurring steroid hormone, progesterone" . Sorry.

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net> wrote:

> From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@ webtv.net>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:58 AM

> Where do you see Megace classified as a
> steroid?
>
>
>
> According to the 2008 edition of the "Nurses Drug
> Handbook," Megace is classified as a Progestin, one of
> the female sex hormones.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Jaco B
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:15 PM
>
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
>
>
> It is a steroid and probably should not be used with LDN.
> There are other appetite stimulants which would be more
> appropriate: Marinol is one which
>
> does not have any steroid. And it targets the cannabinoid
> receptors.
>
>
>
> Jaco
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com>
>
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:22 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Does ANYONE KNOW IF MEGACE�CAN BE �BE TAKEN
> WITH
>
> > LDN ?
>
> > �
>
> > Wife does not seem to have much of an appetite after
>
> > chemo treatment
>
> > was prescribed megace to give her an appetite
>
> > �
>
> > thanks



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#7428 From: Wendy Hawthorne <wendy.hawthorne@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:47 am
Subject: Re: RA is autoimmue 		wendy.hawthorne
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--- On Sun, 3/29/09, lump16@... <lump16@...> wrote:

From: lump16@... <lump16@...>
Subject: [LDN_Users] RA is autoimmue
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:15 PM

Here is a 27 page study of MS and vitamin D. LDN is worth pusuing and contiueing. But D is the Key there is little doubt. This explains the autoimmune repose to some degree.


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#7427 From: Nonie <nmsammy@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:01 am
Subject: RE: New to LDN 		hachiosmom
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Yes, synthetic which has been proven to cause cancer.

Not something I would give someone who has cancer.
 

Nonie


 

> I must have misread the description - "a synthetic derivative of a naturally occurring steroid hormone, progesterone". Sorry.

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#7426 From: Crystals MS TM LDN Website <angelindisguise67@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:06 am
Subject: Re: Become a Smart Patient (Nancy) 		angelindisgu...
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Thanks Julia, but I can't afford to buy a bunch of supplements because I am on a limited income. If I could afford them I would buy them rather then take the other meds.

 
May there be a miracle in YOUR life today and may you have the EYES to see it.

From My Heart to Yours
Love, Hugs & Blessings,
Crystal
LDN_Users Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years 6 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy.....No Relapses......


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From: Brosta <brosta@...>
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:58:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] Become a Smart Patient (Nancy)

I also take Klonopin (tremors,pain, spasticity) , Darvocet and Methocarbamol (Muscle Relaxer). 
 
Crystal, I have just "Googled" these and I do not like the look of them, especially when in use with a body that is weakened by MS. You should research some alternatives. I have with great success. There is Vit B6, Hemp Oil, Calcium/ Magnesium to stop spasms.
Julia


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#7425 From: "barbieiam@..." <barbieiam@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:39 am
Subject: Re: rheumatoid arthritis 		blondewigs
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Dear John D.
my husband has the same thing,,he was taking ldn faithfully and it came back on him in a different part of his lung, same one..non small cell carcinoma..do you/she do anything else?barb
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Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] rheumatoid arthritis

 
Hi Nancy
 
I eat fresh garlic but I think garlic pills would be better. I make my own garlic bread and would have 2 or 3 cloves of fresh garlic on it. Luckily the hole family likes garlic, on a Friday night I would even eat a few cloves while I am cooking the dinner . ha ha just cant go out the next day. I don't have MS I am here for my wife who has stage 4 lung cancer and is doing very well on LDN
 

Regards
 
John
 
Life is for sharing so please fill in the database at http://www.ldndatabase.com and share your experience to help others learn about LDN
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] rheumatoid arthritis

HI JOHN I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU TOOK LOTS OF GARLIC AND IT WENT AWAY HOW MUCH GARLIC AND IS IT FRESH OR A PILL AND FOR HOW LONG DID YOU TAKE GARLIC BEFORE IT WENT AWAY? WHAT DID YOUR DOCTOR THINK AFTER IT JUST WENT AWAY,AND DO YOU HAVE MS??NANCY

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, John Donnelly <john@carnebeach.com> wrote:

From: John Donnelly <john@carnebeach.com>
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] rheumatoid arthritis
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 8:55 PM

 
Hi Catherine
 
As you saw on the database there is a few people there doing very well on LDN for RA. I had RA from the child hood till I was 30 in every joint, I took lots of garlic and it vanished. so if it comes back in a few years it will be lots of garlic and LDN for me
 
Best of luck 
John
 
Life is for sharing so please fill in the database at http://www.ldndatab ase.com and share your experience to help others learn about LDN
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:54 AM
Subject: [LDN_Users] rheumatoid arthritis

Hi,
I'm brand new to this site. I have Rheumatoid arthritis in every joint and with out prednisone I'm incapacitated. I'm 52 and this is not how I want to continue. I do not want to take the medications prescribed because of the detrimental effects on my body. Has anyone had success with LDN and RA. My Dr. will prescribe it for me. I just want some feedback. How much do I start with etc.
Thankyou so much
Catherine



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#7424 From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:25 am
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		jaco.b7219
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I must have misread the description - "a synthetic derivative of a naturally
occurring steroid hormone, progesterone".   Sorry.

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@...> wrote:

> From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@...>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:58 AM

>             Where do you see Megace classified as a
> steroid?
>
>
>
> According to the 2008 edition of the "Nurses Drug
> Handbook," Megace is classified as a Progestin, one of
> the female sex hormones.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Jaco B
>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:15 PM
>
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
>
>
> It is a steroid and probably should not be used with LDN.
> There are other appetite stimulants which would be more
> appropriate:  Marinol is one which
>
> does not have any steroid.  And it targets the cannabinoid
> receptors.
>
>
>
> Jaco
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: H Mich <hmich45@yahoo.
> com>
>
> > Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
>
> > To: LDN_Users@yahoogrou
> ps.com
>
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:22 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Does ANYONE KNOW IF MEGACE�CAN BE �BE TAKEN
> WITH
>
> > LDN ?
>
> > �
>
> > Wife does not seem to have much of an appetite after
>
> > chemo treatment
>
> > was prescribed megace to give her an appetite
>
> > �
>
> > thanks

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#7423 From: "lump16@..." <lump16@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:15 am
Subject: RA is autoimmue 		lumpc1
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Here is a 27 page study of MS and vitamin D. LDN is worth pusuing and contiueing. But D is the Key there is little doubt. This explains the autoimmune repose to some degree.

http://www.sunarc.org/Embry-_JOM_Vit_D-1.pdf



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#7422 From: "Dudley Delany" <DudleyDelany@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:58 am
Subject: Re: New to LDN 		dudley_delany
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Where do you see Megace classified as a steroid?

According to the 2008 edition of the "Nurses Drug Handbook," Megace is
classified as a Progestin, one of the female sex hormones.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jaco B
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:15 PM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN


It is a steroid and probably should not be used with LDN.  There are other
appetite stimulants which would be more appropriate:  Marinol is one which
does not have any steroid.  And it targets the cannabinoid receptors.

Jaco

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, H Mich <hmich45@...> wrote:

> From: H Mich <hmich45@...>
> Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] New to LDN
> To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:22 AM


>
> Does ANYONE KNOW IF MEGACE�CAN BE �BE TAKEN WITH
> LDN ?
> �
> Wife does not seem to have much of an appetite after
> chemo treatment
> was prescribed megace to give her an appetite
> �
> thanks







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#7421 From: "lump16@..." <lump16@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:55 am
Subject: Re: Re: vitamin d 		lumpc1
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Pam, that's reasonable, you caught on to this info quickly enough to change the direction.

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#7420 From: "barbieiam@..." <barbieiam@...>
Date: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:35 am
Subject: Re: rheumatoid arthritis 		blondewigs
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hi, barb here, and 65 with ra, that is just now getting bad..let me know when you find an answer...I want to know too. thanks , barb
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Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: [LDN_Users] rheumatoid arthritis

Hi,
I'm brand new to this site. I have Rheumatoid arthritis in every joint and with out prednisone I'm incapacitated. I'm 52 and this is not how I want to continue. I do not want to take the medications prescribed because of the detrimental effects on my body. Has anyone had success with LDN and RA. My Dr. will prescribe it for me. I just want some feedback. How much do I start with etc.
Thankyou so much
Catherine


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