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From: Rae Bower

To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:22 PM

Subject: RE: [LDN_Users] Re: LDN and Symtom Relief....../Copaxone

I don't think any drug claims to offer improvement. Be realistic. The goal of ANY treatment is to hopefully halt further decline...

 

Rae

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From: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of toddsgirl1977@wmconnect.com
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:03 PM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] Re: LDN and Symtom Relief....../Copaxone

My neuro told me that I wouldn't see anything as far as improvement on Copaxone for 8 months.  Did anyone experiance this?

Samantha

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----- Original Message -----

From: toddsgirl1977@...

To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:48 AM

Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] People with MS are warned to stay away from Aspartame!

Everyone I know, with the exception of a few, drink diet soda and not one is healthy.  The suffer from all kinds of things from minor to major.  Nasty stuff.
Samantha

I agree.
Many people drink diet colas with absolutely no issues.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Rae Bower

To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:27 PM

Subject: RE: [LDN_Users] 'Off-Label' Drugs Denied to Medicare D

Go to your local Social Security office, take a number and talk to their staff about how you can get financial support for your condition. You'll need to supply lots of proof and wait 6 months...

 

Cheers, Rae

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From: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of toddsgirl1977@wmconnect.com
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:34 PM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] 'Off-Label' Drugs Denied to Medicare D

Can people under 65 get medicare?

I've been told by lots of people that I should get on it but I didn't think I could because I'm only 30??  Am I right?

Samantha

went to my neurlogist yesterday and was having very painful spasms in
my right foot which he diagnosed as tonic spasms and he is taking me
off of my beterserone due to problems with the side effects got alot
worse and since he is taking me off  i brought up i wanted to do LDN.
he was not happy but wrote me the script. said he had some pts on LDN
who showed no improvement so he is not a big beliver but like i told
him this is my decision which he agreed and wrote the script so i am
hoping i can make him a beliver of LDN. so now my road begins.
thanks to everyone out there for helping me.
Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: Rae Bower

To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:23 AM

Subject: RE: [LDN_Users] People with MS are warned to stay away from Aspartame!

There may well be some people who are extremely sensitive, whose seizures may be induced by the drug. I can only wonder though, if it were true that aspartame is so bad for the public, why investigators from 60Minutes, 20/20 etc aren't all over this topic making public claims about how bad it is. Whatever... It doesn't bother me cause I'm sticking to my regime of coffee, OJ in the morning, water all day and cabernet at night!

 

Cheers, Rae

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From: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of foxhillers@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:41 AM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] People with MS are warned to stay away from Aspartame!

Rae 

 

Please read Russel Blaylock, MD's book.  Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills.  

 

People I know have seizures induced from nutrasweet/aspartame.

 

mjh

 

Just to play Devil's Advocate on this, read this: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp and http://web.archive.org/web/20040205093914/http://www.healthcentral.com/DrDean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=8134.

 

There are a lot of untruths and hoaxes out there on the internet. I've fallen for passing on untrue stories a few times too so don't feel bad. I guess the best plan is to ALWAYS check the truth of any story that purports itself to be true, about any subject that you find circulating on the internet, before passing it on.

 

Cheers, Rae

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'Off-Label' Drugs Denied to Medicare D

A patient advocacy group warns that Medicare patients who rely on "off-label" use of drugs to treat pain, rare diseases, and other conditions are often barred getting them through the new prescription drug program. Under the Medicare Part D program, off-label prescriptions written by doctors for their patients can be denied by insurers, says the Medicare Rights Center. Such uses were typically covered under the old Medicare payment system.

As Reported by USA Today

----- Original Message -----

From: Rae Bower

To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:02 AM

Subject: RE: [LDN_Users] Re: LDN and Symtom Relief......

Hi Solsi. I've been on Copaxone for 8 yrs now, after 2 prior yrs on Avonex then Betaseron.  I had no interferon 'headache' on Copaxone, and loved the thin sub-cutaneous needle after the painful, fat Avonex one that users shoot deep into muscular tissue. After shooting up before going to bed, I didn't have any site reactions--other than a small reaction at the shot site that was gone next day. Better tolerance of the shot itself was a trade-off that more than made up for the downside of having to shoot up every night. My neuro believes so much in the benefits of this therapy that he has most of his patients on it. Try it for a month and see if you do well on it. If you don't, tell your neuro you'd like to try something else. Anyway, let us know what you decide to do... We're here to help each other.

 

Cheers, Rae

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From: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of solsijoe
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:43 PM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LDN_Users] Re: LDN and Symtom Relief......

Hi Crystal, hello everyone,

I have been taking LDN for a little less than a year. A month ago my
neuro found two new lesions. Does this mean that the LDN isn't
working for me? Am I progressing? I am now terrified, and will
begin on Copaxone very soon. Anyone on Copaxone that can tell me
what it's like?

Thank you,

Solsi

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wrote:
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> LDN
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>
>
> Remember, the main purpose of LDN is to stop the disease from
> progressing. Symptom
>
> improvement is a bonus.
>
>
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> Crystal
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----- Original Message -----

From: Rae Bower

To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:00 AM

Subject: RE: [LDN_Users] People with MS are warned to stay away from Aspartame!

Just to play Devil's Advocate on this, read this: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp and http://web.archive.org/web/20040205093914/http://www.healthcentral.com/DrDean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=8134.

 

There are a lot of untruths and hoaxes out there on the internet. I've fallen for passing on untrue stories a few times too so don't feel bad. I guess the best plan is to ALWAYS check the truth of any story that purports itself to be true, about any subject that you find circulating on the internet, before passing it on.

 

Cheers, Rae

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From: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Crystal
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:43 PM
To: LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LDN_Users] People with MS are warned to stay away from Aspartame!

NUMBER 1 ANT KILLER
Interesting!
THIS SHOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT USING ARTIFICIAL
SWEETENERS.....

IF YOU * *USE THEM???*

We live in the woods and carpenter ants are a huge problem.
We have spent thousands of dollars with Orkin & on ant poisons
trying to keep them under control but nothing has helped.
So when I read somewhere that aspartame Nutrasweet)* was
actually developed as an ant poison and changed to being
considered non-poisonous after it was realized that a lot
more money could be made on it as a sweetener than as an
ant poison, I decided to give it a try.

I opened two packets of aspartame sweetener, & dumped one
in a corner of each of our bathrooms . That was about 2 years
ago and I have not seen any carpenter ants for about 9 to 12
months. It works better than the most deadly poisons I have
tried. Any time they show up again, I simply dump another
package of Nutrasweet in a corner, and they will be gone for
a year or so again.

Since posting this information I have had many people tell me
of their success solving ant problems with this substance, when
nothing else worked. I found later that small black ants would
not eat the aspartame. It was determined that if you mixed it
with apple juice, they would quickly take it back to the nest,
and all would be dead within 24 hours, usually. I have found
that sometimes it will kill them, & sometimes it does not. Not
sure why, may be slightly different species of ants or something.

Fire Ants: We got our first fire ant hill about 2 weeks ago.
Poison did not work. We tried aspartame and the ants ignored
it until we got a light rain.

It was just a sprinkle, enough to moisten the Nutrasweet &
ground, but not enough to wash it away. They went crazy,
hundreds of them grabbing it and taking it back into the mound.
When I checked the mound 2 days later, there was no sign of
the fire ants. I even dug the mound up, and still saw none of
them.

How does it Work:
*Aspartame is a neuropoison.* It most likely kills the ants by
interfering with their nervous system. It could be direct, like
stopping their heart, or something more subtle like killing their
sense of taste so they can't figure out what is edible, or smell,
so they can't follow their trails, or mis-identify their colonies
members, so they start fighting each other. Not sure what
causes them to end up dying, just know that for many species
of ants it will kill them quickly and effectively.

As with any poison I recommend wearing gloves and washing
any skin areas that come in contact with this poison, & avoid
getting it in your mouth, despite anything the labeling may
indicate.


More information on this poison can be found at:
www.dorway.com*
http://www.dorway.com/
The Truth About Aspartame...

Aspartame is NOT a natural substance!*

Aspartame is NOT a Diet Enhancement product!*

Aspartame is NOT safe - for ANYONE!*

Aspartame is NOT a food "additive" *

Aspartame is an UNREGULATED and UNSAFE DRUG!*

Aspartame in liquids turns to FORMALDEHYDE above
freezing!*

Aspartame is even worse for DIABETICS!*

Aspartame poisoning is cumulative (it adds up!)*

Aspartame byproducts get stored in your FAT!*

Aspartame has 92 Official" Side Effects (the worst is
DEATH!)*

Aspartame MIMICS a wide range of problems*

*Aspartame side effects are USUALLY MISDIAGNOSED!*

People with MS are warned to stay away from Aspartame!

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Hi Crystal,  hello everyone,

I have been taking LDN for a little less than a year.  A month ago my
neuro found two new lesions.  Does this mean that the LDN isn't
working for me?  Am I progressing?  I am now terrified, and will
begin on Copaxone very soon.  Anyone on Copaxone that can tell me
what it's like?

Thank you,

Solsi


--- In LDN_Users@yahoogroups.com, "Crystal" <crystalangel6771@...>
wrote:
>
>
> LDN
>
>
>
> Remember, the main purpose of LDN is to stop the disease from
> progressing. Symptom
>
> improvement is a bonus.
>
>
>
> Crystal
>