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Re: [IOL] feet up bench press....   Message List  
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Re: [IOL] feet up bench press....

Chris, I agree that form is VERY important. But for some of us here the WEIGHT
has some value also. As to missing perfect form from time to time I know that
even our sponser Dave has stated that he does some exageratted motion and extra
swing or whatever at times when he is really pushing a set or a weight. In
general I agree with you but there are differing goals out here in this group.
Proper form wil decrease the risk of injury and help with improvement whether
that is for "Looks and size" or increased strength (more weight), it really
doesn't matter. Proper form is still important. As to not caring, I don't care
how others lift unless its endangering me or they ask for advice.
Gary E

>>> "Chris Johnson" <cjohns@...> 09/01/00 12:19PM >>>
Guy:

Another interesting phenom I witness daily is barbel curls (not big bar, but
the short weighted ones on the racks) where people literally lunge and swing
to get the bar up.
It took me awhile to understand that form is king and what brought the point
home for good was when an impressive physique, day after day in the gym,
continued to never touch a dumbell over 50 lbs and actually spent more times
using 15's than anything else from biceps to shoulders to triceps.
Since then, I couldn't tell you how much I can do for any movement
because I just don't know and don't care. That guy is no longer around but
every day I step into the gym I still see the wigglers, back archers, and
other oddballs galore. I grab the 15's, smile real big, and of course,
thank the big iron gods for letting me in on the secret.

Chris L. Johnson
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Guy: Good idea but the simple truth is your buddy didn't check his ego at the door when he walked into the gym because when your butt goes in the air, you can...
Chris Johnson
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Sep 1, 2000
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Chris, I agree that form is VERY important. But for some of us here the WEIGHT has some value also. As to missing perfect form from time to time I know that...
Gary Edwards
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Sep 1, 2000
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We had a guy working out with us in the Corporate gym here that we used to tie down to the bench with a lifting belt too to prevent excess arching. Of course...
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Sep 1, 2000
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Chris: Okay, pal! Now you've got me on a roll! Back in September of 1974 I was managing a small club in San Diego called Health By The Sea. The owner was ...
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Sep 2, 2000
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... for low reps were the rule for me until I saw how the really big guys trained. Upon arriving at Gold's, I gazed through the large windows on Pacific Avenue...
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Sep 2, 2000
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Gary: I am not a form nazi nor do I always use 100% correct form. What I do know is that when you vary from dead center, things can happen. My approach is I ...
Chris Johnson
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Chris, I think you may have misunderstood my point or I was not very clear in what I was trying to say. I do believe that FORM is VERY important. I try to...
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Sep 4, 2000
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gary mentioned doing a 400lb BP as one of his top goals... (gary to you have Fred Hatfield's book? Of course you do!!!) I'm wondering if those on the list who...
Badger
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Sep 4, 2000
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<<I'm wondering if those on the list who were interested would like to post their top 3 or 4 'Iron' goals for the new school year.>> Good idea, although I'm...
Ivan Schoen
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Sep 5, 2000
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Here are my 'Iron Goals' for the new school year: 1) Develop such a shocking physique that the neighborhood dogs start barking whenever I walk down the street....
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Sep 5, 2000
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... That one's easy, if you're willing to pay a little less attention to personal hygene. --dnb...
David Barnett
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... to post ... Badger, just so you know. My goal is open ended. That is I intend to get there when I get there. It is not something that I have put into a...
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Sep 5, 2000
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Jim, You did not give us your deadline, and be sure to keep us posted. Sounds as if you will have you have a great future. Roy...
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Sep 5, 2000
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Ok, here's mine........ 1). Get down to about 15% BF while gaining muscle mass. 2). See my abs too (I can't remember when I saw them last) 3). Bench press 350 ...
Hansen, Art
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Sep 6, 2000
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Awesome!!! Chris L. Johnson E-mail: cj@... ... that ... practice. ... beautiful ... cheese ... for?" ... Keep ... Jim...
Chris Johnson
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Sep 7, 2000
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... I'm game, but I'm not going back to school. I'm almost 38! Current Stats: 6-4 240 300 Bench 205 OH press 375 Squat 350? Deadlift Short term goals : ) ...
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Sep 8, 2000
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That was profound. Thanks for sharing that with all of us, Jim. I just forwarded this message to all my buds at the gym. No need to be a form nazi but we...
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Sep 2, 2000
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Thanks Chris ............ The knees , shoulders,and to a degree the low back are the weak links . They can take you out of the game and I'm just having to much...
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Sep 3, 2000
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A very good post with meany good points to think about . I think your indeed right about there not being only one right way on many exercises , the bench Press...
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Sep 3, 2000
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Jim: Interesting thoughts on your experience because as I spend more time trying to figure out how to have a million dollar physique in 3 minutes a day <G>, I...
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