--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "gm4daddy" <garry1941@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone int the group,,,I am new,,, I am a heavy dribbler and
a
> night time wetter,,so I wear diapers to bed and sometimes even when
we
> go out,,,I also have pullups and pads that i put in my
underwear,,,At
> my age I am not real concerned about my problem,,as I believe things
> like this sometimes go with our age...I am almost 65 and wearing,
and
> buying protective products is not a problem for me. I am in the
London
> Ontario Canada area....
>Hi Iam a male in my 60s also incon urine and sometimes bowel.The
wearing of protection dose not bother me at my age wife is more
concerned with it.I do have a enlarged prostate which is alot of the
problem but I don't let this stop me.Thanks

--- Jasoni VanBeveroni <jvanbeveroni@...> wrote:

> Im having a few medical problems and wondering if theres a
> nurse or a cna in this grop to talk to. email me direct as
> address shown.

I've been doing medical x-ray for about 35 years, and have
significant knowledge gained from that time.  Anything I can
help with?

Brew

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IF DIAPER CHANGING IS A PROBLEM FOR YOUR HUSBAND IN RESTROOMS, YOU MIGHT
WANT TO THINK ABOUT LOOKING INTO DISPOSABLE PULL UP UNDERWEAR.
I'VE TRIED A FEW DIFFERENT BRANDS, AND THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY EFFECTIVE.
HOWEVER, FOR THAT EXTRA ADDED PROTECTION, I ALSO WEAR A PAIR OF PLASTIC
PANTS OVER THE DISPOSABLE UNDERWEAR.
I HAVE SPINA BIFIDA AND PROGRESSIVE MS, I STILL LEAD A PRETTY ACTIVE
PERSONAL AND SOCIAL LIFE.
SOO WHEN WERE OUT AND ABOUT, IT'S EITHER DISPOSABLE DIAPERS AND PLASTIC
PANTS, OR DISPOSABLE UNDERWEAR AND PLASTIC PANTS.
MY WIFE ISIN'T TO FOND OF THE DISPOSABLE PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET, SO WHEN
AT HOME, SHE KEEPS ME IN CLOTH DIAPERS AND PLASTIC PANTS.
THE DISPOSABLES DO HAVE THEIR PROPER PLACE IN SITUATIONS SUCH AS BEING
OUT IN PUBLIC.
HOPE THIS INFO IS OF SOME HELP TO YOU.
TAKE CARE,
TINYTONY  :)

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "buckfaithanton" <buckfaithanton@...>
wrote:
>
> Due to a injuries suffered by my husband he needs me to check and
> change his diaper for him.  This is not a problem at home but when we
> are out this poses a real problem.  Checking is not a problem, I just
> do a quick diaper check befor we get out of the car, but changing is
a
> real problem.  If we are lucky enough to find a family restroom this
> is not a problem but otherwise take the chance of leaks.
>
> If anyone could give advise on this issue it would be really
> appreciated.
>
If the problem is bladder and not bladder and bowl you might have a
talk with your husbands Doctor and ash about a external catherter and
leg bag it could help put a end to diapers.
good luck.








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Depending on your husband's disability many states
will allow you to assist a person of the opposite sex
in a restroom (i.e. You could come into the mens' room
to help him. The other option is if you have a vehcile
that allows him to lay down in the back (truck
w/canopy, van, SUV etc..).  I know people who do this
and just throw blankets in the windows for privacy.

If he is only urinary incon then I would suggest using
better protection as the best solution to the problem.
Abena XPlus with an Abena soaker will last almost
anybody all day.

-Darin

--- buckfaithanton <buckfaithanton@...> wrote:

> Due to a injuries suffered by my husband he needs me
> to check and
> change his diaper for him.  This is not a problem at
> home but when we
> are out this poses a real problem.  Checking is not
> a problem, I just
> do a quick diaper check befor we get out of the car,
> but changing is a
> real problem.  If we are lucky enough to find a
> family restroom this
> is not a problem but otherwise take the chance of
> leaks.
>
> If anyone could give advise on this issue it would
> be really
> appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "buckfaithanton" <buckfaithanton@...>
wrote:
>
> Due to a injuries suffered by my husband he needs me to check and
> change his diaper for him.  This is not a problem at home but when we
> are out this poses a real problem.  Checking is not a problem, I just
> do a quick diaper check befor we get out of the car, but changing is
a
> real problem.  If we are lucky enough to find a family restroom this
> is not a problem but otherwise take the chance of leaks.
>
> If anyone could give advise on this issue it would be really
> appreciated.
>
If the problem is bladder and not bladder and bowl you might have a
talk with your husbands Doctor and ash about a external catherter and
leg bag it could help put a end to diapers.
good luck.

Due to a injuries suffered by my husband he needs me to check and
change his diaper for him.  This is not a problem at home but when we
are out this poses a real problem.  Checking is not a problem, I just
do a quick diaper check befor we get out of the car, but changing is a
real problem.  If we are lucky enough to find a family restroom this
is not a problem but otherwise take the chance of leaks.

If anyone could give advise on this issue it would be really
appreciated.

Im having a few medical problems and wondering if theres a nurse or a cna in this grop to talk to. email me direct as address shown.

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I don't know what to do though, because I am on medicade in Utah,
and I would have to have permission to change doctors, pay to have
all of my records sent to the new doctor, and all my money goes for
bills, and diapers, because my urologist doesn't think that diapers
are the best, I am almost to the point of giving up, I wish that
they had people in Utah that could help me with this, but I don't
know if there is and I am about ready to give up, I wish that I had
never grown up, and then I wouldn't have to deal with this
--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "muppetfanmn" <muppetfanmn@...> wrote:
>
> I agree -- time for a new doctor. I've also reached a point where
> I've been very disappointed in my primary provider. I've been
> dealing with what is best described as "mystery pain" in the left
> side of my body, along with incontinence (which has gotten worse
by
> the way). She keeps sending me to a neurologist, who has found
> nothing wrong with me, and in fact told me that my arm pain may be
> from an inflamed shoulder (great, now what about my leg?).
Neither
> has ever taken my incontinence seriously.
>
> I don't know what's wrong. It can't be nothing -- if you're 32,
> have pain like this and wear diapers, there's something going on!
I
> have an appointment with a different neurologist coming up...we'll
> see.
>
> I know some don't want to hear this, but your doctor was right
about
> a couple of things. First -- those times when you can't hold it
are
> what the pads are for. Secondly, if you have a diaper rash, then
> diaper rash cream will help. The whole point of any protection
is
> so that you can get on with other things in your life. To me, I'd
> rather go ahead and use it than spend my life running from
bathroom
> to bathroom and worrying if I'll make it. And if pads don't cut
it,
> wear diapers! There's no shame in doing so if you need to, and
> nobody will even notice.
>
> Yes, society tells us to see diapers and diaper rash cream as
> something adults don't need, but we all know that's not always
> true. I'm getting over any shame in wearing diapers, and of
course
> I use rash cream -- if for no other reason than to prevent getting
a
> diaper rash. I suspect that as the boomer generation ages, any
> societal shame will slip away anyway.
>

I don't know what to do though, because I am on medicade in Utah,
and I would have to have permission to change doctors, pay to have
all of my records sent to the new doctor, and all my money goes for
bills, and diapers, because my urologist doesn't think that diapers
are the best, I am almost to the point of giving up, I wish that
they had people in Utah that could help me with this, but I don't
know if there is and I am about ready to give up, I wish that I had
never grown up, and then I wouldn't have to deal with this
--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "muppetfanmn" <muppetfanmn@...> wrote:
>
> I agree -- time for a new doctor.  I've also reached a point where
> I've been very disappointed in my primary provider.  I've been
> dealing with what is best described as "mystery pain" in the left
> side of my body, along with incontinence (which has gotten worse
by
> the way).  She keeps sending me to a neurologist, who has found
> nothing wrong with me, and in fact told me that my arm pain may be
> from an inflamed shoulder (great, now what about my leg?).
Neither
> has ever taken my incontinence seriously.
>
> I don't know what's wrong.  It can't be nothing -- if you're 32,
> have pain like this and wear diapers, there's something going on!
I
> have an appointment with a different neurologist coming up...we'll
> see.
>
> I know some don't want to hear this, but your doctor was right
about
> a couple of things.  First -- those times when you can't hold it
are
> what the pads are for.  Secondly, if you have a diaper rash, then
> diaper rash cream will help.   The whole point of any protection
is
> so that you can get on with other things in your life.  To me, I'd
> rather go ahead and use it than spend my life running from
bathroom
> to bathroom and worrying if I'll make it.  And if pads don't cut
it,
> wear diapers!  There's no shame in doing so if you need to, and
> nobody will even notice.
>
> Yes, society tells us to see diapers and diaper rash cream as
> something adults don't need, but we all know that's not always
> true.  I'm getting over any shame in wearing diapers, and of
course
> I use rash cream -- if for no other reason than to prevent getting
a
> diaper rash.  I suspect that as the boomer generation ages, any
> societal shame will slip away anyway.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: dennis schoen

To: Incont@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:49 AM

Subject: Re: [Incont] Re: Very frustrated after urologist visit

Loosing a child can be a life long emotional and stressful situation.  Your fortunate to

have good neightbors... lol well that was one way of coming out in your diapers... Now

you dont have to worry about telling them...  Diapers are just a fact of life to some...

worse things could happen... live your life... its short enough anyway.   Dennis
Well, needless to say after I changed for the umpteenth time I accidentally forgot to put my shorts back on and just went back over and sat down with them, nobody was brave enough to tell me I forgot to put my pants back on. We sat around for a while and the neighbors wife told me I might want to go change, and I was like what! Then noticed I was only wearing a tee shirt and diaper, talk about being red faced. They were so cool about it especially when I tripped and almost fell over my chair on the way out of there as fast as possable. I am 36 till September 19th by the way.

Take care,

Jack

 

.

I sure hope it slips away, had a scary situation twice in the past three days while spending time with the neighbors. Thankfully I was already brave enough to inform them about my diapers. I was feeling really down after a friend found out his grandbaby had bone cancer, so I prayed for a bit then the harsh reality of when I lost my baby punched me in the face. So as dumb as it may have been I started driking with the neighbors. Well, needless to say after I changed for the umpteenth time I accidentally forgot to put my shorts back on and just went back over and sat down with them, nobody was brave enough to tell me I forgot to put my pants back on. By the way, I love my neighbors for being so nice to the skinny white guy next door(me). We sat around for a while and the neighbors wife told me I might want to go change, and I was like what! Then noticed I was only wearing a tee shirt and diaper, talk about being red faced. They were so cool about it especially when I tripped and almost fell over my chair on the way out of there as fast as possable. Needless to say they came and checked on the drunk little white guy and helped me change after finding me on the the closet/computer room floor. I had to clean the carpet tonight, I must have voided about 3 times before they found me thankfully I had been drinking or the slell would have gagged me. anyway getting back to the post, I am also thinking about going back to my old urologist and trying to get a perscription for my diapers. ast month I spent almost $200.00 dollars on diapers and had to put some now past due bills to the way side. Mine hurt me so badly the last time I bled for three days before I didn't feel like passing out after voiding. I am so very scared about going back I keep peeing thinking about it. I am 36 till September 19th by the way.

Take care,

Jack

muppetfanmn <muppetfanmn@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't know what's wrong. It can't be nothing -- if you're 32,
have pain like this and wear diapers, there's something going on! I
have an appointment with a different neurologist coming up...we'll
see.

Yes, society tells us to see diapers and diaper rash cream as
something adults don't need, but we all know that's not always
true. I'm getting over any shame in wearing diapers, and of course
I use rash cream -- if for no other reason than to prevent getting a
diaper rash. I suspect that as the boomer generation ages, any
societal shame will slip away.

" Accept me as I am, it is me it is all you could imagine an honest person could be ! "

 

babyvamp@sbcglobal.net

 

At 1:51 PM +0000 8/22/06, gm4daddy wrote:
>At my age I am not real concerned about my problem,,
>as I believe things like this sometimes go with our age...

Please don't let your age and cultural attitudes about age keep you
from looking for preventable causes or contributing factors.
Incontinence can be a symptom of other conditions with health
consequences that could be reduced if identified now.

Tom
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Ok I will check that out thanks...garry


>From: "Robert E. Johnson" <aabaadaaba@...>
>Reply-To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
>To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Incont] Re: incontinence
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:29:38 -0000
>
>--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "gm4daddy" <garry1941@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone int the group,,,I am new,,, I am a heavy dribbler and
>a
> > night time wetter,,so I wear diapers to bed and sometimes even when
>we
> > go out,,,I also have pullups and pads that i put in my underwear,,,At
> > my age I am not real concerned about my problem,,as I believe things
> > like this sometimes go with our age...I am almost 65 and wearing, and
> > buying protective products is not a problem for me. I am in the
>London
> > Ontario Canada area....
> >
>Hi Gary, Welcome to the club. Go to www.wanna-b-dry for the very best
>SPC (soft penile clamp) to keep you dry day and night. I designed it,
>Patented it and  use it 24/7 and want everyone who needs help in
>staying dry to have one.
>You took the first step by joining Incont now take the next step to see
>how we can help you.
>Bob
>
>
>
>
>

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Oh sorry I put that in there,, I guess I had better be careful how I say
things,,,Or maybe I am best not to say anything...thanks

>From: "Deidre Warner" <deidrewarner@...>
>Reply-To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
>To: <Incont@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Incont] incontinence
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:04:05 -0500
>
>Age is NEVER a good reason for incontinence.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Incont@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Incont@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>gm4daddy
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:52 AM
>To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Incont] incontinence
>
>Hello everyone int the group,,,I am new,,, I am a heavy dribbler and a
>night time wetter,,so I wear diapers to bed and sometimes even when we
>go out,,,I also have pullups and pads that i put in my underwear,,,At
>my age I am not real concerned about my problem,,as I believe things
>like this sometimes go with our age...I am almost 65 and wearing, and
>buying protective products is not a problem for me. I am in the London
>Ontario Canada area....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
>
>
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--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "gm4daddy" <garry1941@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone int the group,,,I am new,,, I am a heavy dribbler and
a
> night time wetter,,so I wear diapers to bed and sometimes even when
we
> go out,,,I also have pullups and pads that i put in my underwear,,,At
> my age I am not real concerned about my problem,,as I believe things
> like this sometimes go with our age...I am almost 65 and wearing, and
> buying protective products is not a problem for me. I am in the
London
> Ontario Canada area....
>
Hi Gary, Welcome to the club. Go to www.wanna-b-dry for the very best
SPC (soft penile clamp) to keep you dry day and night. I designed it,
Patented it and  use it 24/7 and want everyone who needs help in
staying dry to have one.
You took the first step by joining Incont now take the next step to see
how we can help you.
Bob

Age is NEVER a good reason for incontinence.

-----Original Message-----
From: Incont@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Incont@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
gm4daddy
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:52 AM
To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Incont] incontinence

Hello everyone int the group,,,I am new,,, I am a heavy dribbler and a
night time wetter,,so I wear diapers to bed and sometimes even when we
go out,,,I also have pullups and pads that i put in my underwear,,,At
my age I am not real concerned about my problem,,as I believe things
like this sometimes go with our age...I am almost 65 and wearing, and
buying protective products is not a problem for me. I am in the London
Ontario Canada area....









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Hello everyone int the group,,,I am new,,, I am a heavy dribbler and a
night time wetter,,so I wear diapers to bed and sometimes even when we
go out,,,I also have pullups and pads that i put in my underwear,,,At
my age I am not real concerned about my problem,,as I believe things
like this sometimes go with our age...I am almost 65 and wearing, and
buying protective products is not a problem for me. I am in the London
Ontario Canada area....

Have you tried going to a good chiropractor? A pinched nerve somewhere
could be contributing to both problems. Doctors will seldom suggest
this. Osteopaths are doctors who are both medical and have training in
resolving skeletal issues.


muppetfanmn wrote:

> I agree -- time for a new doctor. I've also reached a point where
> I've been very disappointed in my primary provider. I've been
> dealing with what is best described as "mystery pain" in the left
> side of my body, along with incontinence (which has gotten worse by
> the way). She keeps sending me to a neurologist, who has found
> nothing wrong with me, and in fact told me that my arm pain may be
> from an inflamed shoulder (great, now what about my leg?). Neither
> has ever taken my incontinence seriously.
>
> I don't know what's wrong. It can't be nothing -- if you're 32,
> have pain like this and wear diapers, there's something going on! I
> have an appointment with a different neurologist coming up...we'll
> see.
>
> I know some don't want to hear this, but your doctor was right about
> a couple of things. First -- those times when you can't hold it are
> what the pads are for. Secondly, if you have a diaper rash, then
> diaper rash cream will help. The whole point of any protection is
> so that you can get on with other things in your life. To me, I'd
> rather go ahead and use it than spend my life running from bathroom
> to bathroom and worrying if I'll make it. And if pads don't cut it,
> wear diapers! There's no shame in doing so if you need to, and
> nobody will even notice.
>
> Yes, society tells us to see diapers and diaper rash cream as
> something adults don't need, but we all know that's not always
> true. I'm getting over any shame in wearing diapers, and of course
> I use rash cream -- if for no other reason than to prevent getting a
> diaper rash. I suspect that as the boomer generation ages, any
> societal shame will slip away anyway.
>
>

I don't know what's wrong. It can't be nothing -- if you're 32,
have pain like this and wear diapers, there's something going on! I
have an appointment with a different neurologist coming up...we'll
see.

Yes, society tells us to see diapers and diaper rash cream as
something adults don't need, but we all know that's not always
true. I'm getting over any shame in wearing diapers, and of course
I use rash cream -- if for no other reason than to prevent getting a
diaper rash. I suspect that as the boomer generation ages, any
societal shame will slip away.

I agree -- time for a new doctor.  I've also reached a point where
I've been very disappointed in my primary provider.  I've been
dealing with what is best described as "mystery pain" in the left
side of my body, along with incontinence (which has gotten worse by
the way).  She keeps sending me to a neurologist, who has found
nothing wrong with me, and in fact told me that my arm pain may be
from an inflamed shoulder (great, now what about my leg?).  Neither
has ever taken my incontinence seriously.

I don't know what's wrong.  It can't be nothing -- if you're 32,
have pain like this and wear diapers, there's something going on!  I
have an appointment with a different neurologist coming up...we'll
see.

I know some don't want to hear this, but your doctor was right about
a couple of things.  First -- those times when you can't hold it are
what the pads are for.  Secondly, if you have a diaper rash, then
diaper rash cream will help.   The whole point of any protection is
so that you can get on with other things in your life.  To me, I'd
rather go ahead and use it than spend my life running from bathroom
to bathroom and worrying if I'll make it.  And if pads don't cut it,
wear diapers!  There's no shame in doing so if you need to, and
nobody will even notice.

Yes, society tells us to see diapers and diaper rash cream as
something adults don't need, but we all know that's not always
true.  I'm getting over any shame in wearing diapers, and of course
I use rash cream -- if for no other reason than to prevent getting a
diaper rash.  I suspect that as the boomer generation ages, any
societal shame will slip away anyway.

Well This sounds like My Last Urologist vist, My doctor told me that
I am incontent, but can't find nothing wrong with me and tells me to
try meds, The meds have made it worse and tells me not to drink more
then one glass of water in a day, Well I am a very active person, I
burn about 10,000-15,000 calories a day, and I can't drink more then
one glass of water, I think he thinks that it will stop my wetting
everytime I ride my bicycle, or if I am walking, and sleeping, Wrong
it doesn't and he tells me that there is not much more to do for
me.  Let me tell you more about myself I am 6"2' 156 Pounds which is
under my normal weight, I am disabled. I suffer from Manic
Depressive disorder, I was Molested by 9 men and one women from the
age of 2 to 17.  They tell me that my mental age is that of a 12
year old, and I was born 3 months premature, Which I was never
supposed to be out of diapers. I am now 25 and I think that
everything as caught up to me.  The doctors still say there is
nothing wrong with me, and I wish there is something to do about
it.  I have a feeling when I am dead then that is when they are
going to find out that there was really something wrong. I can't
hold my pee for more the a minute, and I always have bowel leakage,
Does this sound normal.  My doctor thinks so.
Sorry for getting off track, but I thought you guys should know.

Thanks
Lee
--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, Doxiesmom@... wrote:
>
>        Went to see my urologist for the second time yesterday and
I am so
> frustrated and depressed! He did a cystoscopy, which I did not
know he was
> planning to do in advance, but I went ahead and went through with
it.
>        He gave me the results just after. Said my bladder is very
small
> because I could only hold about 6 ounces of water that they put in
before I said I
> felt like I had to go. Said my bladder lining and everything else
looked fine.
> Don't see how he can say that if he did not put me under and
overfill my
> bladder to look at the lining more closely, do you?
>        He also said I have what looks like a diaper rash in my
genital area
> that could be causing the constant burning feeling all the time,
whether I have
> to go to the bathroom or not, but he did not know what would cause
the
> irritation to begin with. Gee....don't think it takes a rocket
scientist to figure
> that one out. I have mild to moderate incontinence so have to wear
pads all the
> time...DUH. Any recommendations about how to keep things dry down
there and
> clean under the circumstances? He said I could use diaper rash
cream and that
> might help.
>        Basically he gave me the royal brush off. He said that I
will probably
> just have to learn to live with the leakage because medication has
not helped
> much. Lots of people have to learn to live their lives in pads or
diapers and
> just get on with things and he suggested I do the same! Excuse me?
Not only
> that but he made the suggestion that I could lessen the leakage
simply by
> cutting way down on my fluid intake, to about 3 glasses a day. I
have NEVER heard a
> doctor recommend that!
>        I have my doubts about the size of my bladder because I
constantly
> feel like I have to go and have constant burning feeling so when
he was filling
> my bladder he told me to let him know when I started feeling like
I had to go.
> I kept telling him I burn and feel like that all the time but he
just could
> not understand why.
>        He recommended that I see an ob/gyn because my periods are
irregular
> and my uterus could be filling up and pressing against the
bladder. I asked him
> if going back on the Pill would help lessen the leakage and he
said he didn't
> know because he really doesn't know that much about female anatomy!
>        He did give me a prescription for elmiron to try and is
going to
> overfill my bladder under anesthesia in about 2 months. Should I
ask him to look at
> the inside of my bladder again while I am under? Anybody
else "burn"
> constantly?
>        I am really down today. I have no life outside of the
house. Even when
> I drink very little I still have to make bathroom trips....My Mom
was in the
> office with me and she told him how often I have to use the
bathroom and his
> only comment was that that is what bladder pads are for....if she
feels like
> she has to go and can't get to the bathroom, just pee on the pad!
I really
> wonder how he would feel if I were to tell him that and he were in
my shoes?
>        I have lived with incontinence for over 12 years and did
fine, but the
> frequency and burning are new and driving me nuts. I just pray the
elmiron
> helps somehow. I also take detrol for the leakage. Any advice on
how to handle
> things would be appreciated, especially about getting rid of the
rash, keeping
> clean and dealing with the burning. It is a struggle just to get
out of bed
> every day because I know what the day will be like. I am just so
tired.
> Cheryle Ann
>

Well This sounds like My Last Urologist vist, My doctor told me that
I am incontent, but can't find nothing wrong with me and tells me to
try meds, The meds have made it worse and tells me not to drink more
then one glass of water in a day, Well I am a very active person, I
burn about 10,000-15,000 calories a day, and I can't drink more then
one glass of water, I think he thinks that it will stop my wetting
everytime I ride my bicycle, or if I am walking, and sleeping, Wrong
it doesn't and he tells me that there is not much more to do for
me.  Let me tell you more about myself I am 6"2' 156 Pounds which is
under my normal weight, I am disabled. I suffer from Manic
Depressive disorder, I was Molested by 9 men and one women from the
age of 2 to 17.  They tell me that my mental age is that of a 12
year old, and I was born 3 months premature, Which I was never
supposed to be out of diapers. I am now 25 and I think that
everything as caught up to me.  The doctors still say there is
nothing wrong with me, and I wish there is something to do about
it.  I have a feeling when I am dead then that is when they are
going to find out that there was really something wrong. I can't
hold my pee for more the a minute, and I always have bowel leakage,
Does this sound normal.  My doctor thinks so.
Sorry for getting off track, but I thought you guys should know.

Thanks
Lee
--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, Doxiesmom@... wrote:
>
>        Went to see my urologist for the second time yesterday and
I am so
> frustrated and depressed! He did a cystoscopy, which I did not
know he was
> planning to do in advance, but I went ahead and went through with
it.
>        He gave me the results just after. Said my bladder is very
small
> because I could only hold about 6 ounces of water that they put in
before I said I
> felt like I had to go. Said my bladder lining and everything else
looked fine.
> Don't see how he can say that if he did not put me under and
overfill my
> bladder to look at the lining more closely, do you?
>        He also said I have what looks like a diaper rash in my
genital area
> that could be causing the constant burning feeling all the time,
whether I have
> to go to the bathroom or not, but he did not know what would cause
the
> irritation to begin with. Gee....don't think it takes a rocket
scientist to figure
> that one out. I have mild to moderate incontinence so have to wear
pads all the
> time...DUH. Any recommendations about how to keep things dry down
there and
> clean under the circumstances? He said I could use diaper rash
cream and that
> might help.
>        Basically he gave me the royal brush off. He said that I
will probably
> just have to learn to live with the leakage because medication has
not helped
> much. Lots of people have to learn to live their lives in pads or
diapers and
> just get on with things and he suggested I do the same! Excuse me?
Not only
> that but he made the suggestion that I could lessen the leakage
simply by
> cutting way down on my fluid intake, to about 3 glasses a day. I
have NEVER heard a
> doctor recommend that!
>        I have my doubts about the size of my bladder because I
constantly
> feel like I have to go and have constant burning feeling so when
he was filling
> my bladder he told me to let him know when I started feeling like
I had to go.
> I kept telling him I burn and feel like that all the time but he
just could
> not understand why.
>        He recommended that I see an ob/gyn because my periods are
irregular
> and my uterus could be filling up and pressing against the
bladder. I asked him
> if going back on the Pill would help lessen the leakage and he
said he didn't
> know because he really doesn't know that much about female anatomy!
>        He did give me a prescription for elmiron to try and is
going to
> overfill my bladder under anesthesia in about 2 months. Should I
ask him to look at
> the inside of my bladder again while I am under? Anybody
else "burn"
> constantly?
>        I am really down today. I have no life outside of the
house. Even when
> I drink very little I still have to make bathroom trips....My Mom
was in the
> office with me and she told him how often I have to use the
bathroom and his
> only comment was that that is what bladder pads are for....if she
feels like
> she has to go and can't get to the bathroom, just pee on the pad!
I really
> wonder how he would feel if I were to tell him that and he were in
my shoes?
>        I have lived with incontinence for over 12 years and did
fine, but the
> frequency and burning are new and driving me nuts. I just pray the
elmiron
> helps somehow. I also take detrol for the leakage. Any advice on
how to handle
> things would be appreciated, especially about getting rid of the
rash, keeping
> clean and dealing with the burning. It is a struggle just to get
out of bed
> every day because I know what the day will be like. I am just so
tired.
> Cheryle Ann
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Doxiesmom@...
Sent: Aug 10, 2006 2:57 PM
To: Doxiesmom@...
Subject: [Incont] Very frustrated after urologist visit

     Went to see my urologist for the second time yesterday and I am so frustrated and depressed! He did a cystoscopy, which I did not know he was planning to do in advance, but I went ahead and went through with it.
      He gave me the results just after. Said my bladder is very small because I could only hold about 6 ounces of water that they put in before I said I felt like I had to go. Said my bladder lining and everything else looked fine. Don't see how he can say that if he did not put me under and overfill my bladder to look at the lining more closely, do you?
      He also said I have what looks like a diaper rash in my genital area that could be causing the constant burning feeling all the time, whether I have to go to the bathroom or not, but he did not know what would cause the irritation to begin with. Gee....don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure that one out. I have mild to moderate incontinence so have to wear pads all the time...DUH. Any recommendations about how to keep things dry down there and clean under the circumstances? He said I could use diaper rash cream and that might help.
      Basically he gave me the royal brush off. He said that I will probably just have to learn to live with the leakage because medication has not helped much. Lots of people have to learn to live their lives in pads or diapers and just get on with things and he suggested I do the same! Excuse me? Not only that but he made the suggestion that I could lessen the leakage simply by cutting way down on my fluid intake, to about 3 glasses a day. I have NEVER heard a doctor recommend that!
      I have my doubts about the size of my bladder because I constantly feel like I have to go and have constant burning feeling so when he was filling my bladder he told me to let him know when I started feeling like I had to go. I kept telling him I burn and feel like that all the time but he just could not understand why.
      He recommended that I see an ob/gyn because my periods are irregular and my uterus could be filling up and pressing against the bladder. I asked him if going back on the Pill would help lessen the leakage and he said he didn't know because he really doesn't know that much about female anatomy!
      He did give me a prescription for elmiron to try and is going to overfill my bladder under anesthesia in about 2 months. Should I ask him to look at the inside of my bladder again while I am under? Anybody else "burn" constantly?
      I am really down today. I have no life outside of the house. Even when I drink very little I still have to make bathroom trips....My Mom was in the office with me and she told him how often I have to use the bathroom and his only comment was that that is what bladder pads are for....if she feels like she has to go and can't get to the bathroom, just pee on the pad! I really wonder how he would feel if I were to tell him that and he were in my shoes?
      I have lived with incontinence for over 12 years and did fine, but the frequency and burning are new and driving me nuts. I just pray the elmiron helps somehow. I also take detrol for the leakage. Any advice on how to handle things would be appreciated, especially about getting rid of the rash, keeping clean and dealing with the burning. It is a struggle just to get out of bed every day because I know what the day will be like. I am just so tired.
Cheryle Ann

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--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, brwmeistr <brwmeistr9@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- Doxiesmom@... wrote:
>
> Hi, Cheryle Ann!
>
> >        Went to see my urologist for the second time
> > yesterday and I am so
> > frustrated and depressed! He did a cystoscopy, which I did
> > not know he was
> > planning to do in advance, but I went ahead and went
> > through with it.
>
> I'd have to agree with the other folks who have answered, and
> suggest that it's time to fire that doc and find a
> gyno-urologist.  Any urologist that doesn't know enough about
> female anatomy to do proper diagnosis isn't one I'd be
> comfortable seeing.  Remenber, YOU pay him for his expertise,
> and if he lacks, YOU can fire him and hire a different one!
>
> >        He gave me the results just after. Said my bladder
> > is very small
> > because I could only hold about 6 ounces of water that they
> > put in before I said I
> > felt like I had to go. Said my bladder lining and
> > everything else looked fine.
> > Don't see how he can say that if he did not put me under
> > and overfill my
> > bladder to look at the lining more closely, do you?
>
> No, I'd not say that at all.  Normal for the exam is exactly
> that, normal for the status.  You had already said you
> weren't expecting a cysto.  Obviously you weren't expecting
> general anesthesia, either.
>
> >.Any recommendations about how to keep things
> > dry down there and
> > clean under the circumstances? He said I could use diaper
> > rash cream and that
> > might help.
>
> I like to use a 1% hydrocortisone ointment, such as a generic
> version of Cortisone 10.  The small dose of cortisone helps
> rid me of the irritation, and the ointment helps keep
> moisture from my skin.  I usually clear up within a day to
> two.
>
> .
> >        I have my doubts about the size of my bladder
> > because I constantly
> > feel like I have to go and have constant burning feeling so
> > when he was filling
> > my bladder he told me to let him know when I started
> > feeling like I had to go.
> > I kept telling him I burn and feel like that all the time
> > but he just could
> > not understand why.
>
> That sounds much more like some type of inflamatory
> situation, perhaps a UTI.  Constant urgency and burning are
> certainly not nomral, and should have some treatment options.
>  I hope he did a culture and sensitivity on your urine, and
> perhaps offered you one of the urinary analgesics such as
> pyridium.
>
> >        He recommended that I see an ob/gyn because my
> > periods are irregular
> > and my uterus could be filling up and pressing against the
> > bladder. I asked him
> > if going back on the Pill would help lessen the leakage and
> > he said he didn't
> > know because he really doesn't know that much about female
> > anatomy!
>
> BINGO!  You're fired, hire a good Gynourologist.!
>
> >        He did give me a prescription for elmiron to try and
> > is going to
> > overfill my bladder under anesthesia in about 2 months.
> > Should I ask him to look at
> > the inside of my bladder again while I am under? Anybody
> > else "burn"
> > constantly?
>
> I'd leave that for another doc to do.  If he doesn't
> understand female anatomy, I'd certainly not trust him to do
> a peek-and-poke on me!
>
> >        I am really down today. I have no life outside of
> > the house. Even when
> > I drink very little I still have to make bathroom
> > trips....My Mom was in the
> > office with me and she told him how often I have to use the
> > bathroom and his
> > only comment was that that is what bladder pads are
> > for....if she feels like
> > she has to go and can't get to the bathroom, just pee on
> > the pad! I really
> > wonder how he would feel if I were to tell him that and he
> > were in my shoes?
>
> Time to use more than pads, I'd suggest.  There's nothing
> wrong with wearing a full diaper when it's needed, and it
> sounds to me like you need em!  Believe me, nobody else knows
> or CARES what your underwear looks like.
>
> >        I have lived with incontinence for over 12 years and
> > did fine, but the
> > frequency and burning are new and driving me nuts. I just
> > pray the elmiron
> > helps somehow. I also take detrol for the leakage. Any
> > advice on how to handle
> > things would be appreciated, especially about getting rid
> > of the rash, keeping
> > clean and dealing with the burning. It is a struggle just
> > to get out of bed
> > every day because I know what the day will be like. I am
> > just so tired.
>
> It also sounds like you have some depression!  The doc should
> address that aspect of your life as well, and perhaps you
> should consider seeing a mental health professional also.  I
> had very intense depression due to circumstances, a
> situational depression, and got good help from a
> psychologist.  That's what they're there for!
>
> Hope this helps some.
>
> Brew
>
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>Hi Ann
I felt so sorry for you after seeing your messages
getting a different Doctor may be the best thing for you to do
I also have incontinence and had a lot of test to find out what was
causing it.
it is from a brain disorder that thay cant do anything about.
I can not count the times I was told that if it bothers me I could
use a diaper.
never give up and enjoy life!
good luck with your new Doctors.

--- Doxiesmom@... wrote:

Hi, Cheryle Ann!

>        Went to see my urologist for the second time
> yesterday and I am so
> frustrated and depressed! He did a cystoscopy, which I did
> not know he was
> planning to do in advance, but I went ahead and went
> through with it.

I'd have to agree with the other folks who have answered, and
suggest that it's time to fire that doc and find a
gyno-urologist.  Any urologist that doesn't know enough about
female anatomy to do proper diagnosis isn't one I'd be
comfortable seeing.  Remenber, YOU pay him for his expertise,
and if he lacks, YOU can fire him and hire a different one!

>        He gave me the results just after. Said my bladder
> is very small
> because I could only hold about 6 ounces of water that they
> put in before I said I
> felt like I had to go. Said my bladder lining and
> everything else looked fine.
> Don't see how he can say that if he did not put me under
> and overfill my
> bladder to look at the lining more closely, do you?

No, I'd not say that at all.  Normal for the exam is exactly
that, normal for the status.  You had already said you
weren't expecting a cysto.  Obviously you weren't expecting
general anesthesia, either.

>.Any recommendations about how to keep things
> dry down there and
> clean under the circumstances? He said I could use diaper
> rash cream and that
> might help.

I like to use a 1% hydrocortisone ointment, such as a generic
version of Cortisone 10.  The small dose of cortisone helps
rid me of the irritation, and the ointment helps keep
moisture from my skin.  I usually clear up within a day to
two.

.
>        I have my doubts about the size of my bladder
> because I constantly
> feel like I have to go and have constant burning feeling so
> when he was filling
> my bladder he told me to let him know when I started
> feeling like I had to go.
> I kept telling him I burn and feel like that all the time
> but he just could
> not understand why.

That sounds much more like some type of inflamatory
situation, perhaps a UTI.  Constant urgency and burning are
certainly not nomral, and should have some treatment options.
  I hope he did a culture and sensitivity on your urine, and
perhaps offered you one of the urinary analgesics such as
pyridium.

>        He recommended that I see an ob/gyn because my
> periods are irregular
> and my uterus could be filling up and pressing against the
> bladder. I asked him
> if going back on the Pill would help lessen the leakage and
> he said he didn't
> know because he really doesn't know that much about female
> anatomy!

BINGO!  You're fired, hire a good Gynourologist.!

>        He did give me a prescription for elmiron to try and
> is going to
> overfill my bladder under anesthesia in about 2 months.
> Should I ask him to look at
> the inside of my bladder again while I am under? Anybody
> else "burn"
> constantly?

I'd leave that for another doc to do.  If he doesn't
understand female anatomy, I'd certainly not trust him to do
a peek-and-poke on me!

>        I am really down today. I have no life outside of
> the house. Even when
> I drink very little I still have to make bathroom
> trips....My Mom was in the
> office with me and she told him how often I have to use the
> bathroom and his
> only comment was that that is what bladder pads are
> for....if she feels like
> she has to go and can't get to the bathroom, just pee on
> the pad! I really
> wonder how he would feel if I were to tell him that and he
> were in my shoes?

Time to use more than pads, I'd suggest.  There's nothing
wrong with wearing a full diaper when it's needed, and it
sounds to me like you need em!  Believe me, nobody else knows
or CARES what your underwear looks like.

>        I have lived with incontinence for over 12 years and
> did fine, but the
> frequency and burning are new and driving me nuts. I just
> pray the elmiron
> helps somehow. I also take detrol for the leakage. Any
> advice on how to handle
> things would be appreciated, especially about getting rid
> of the rash, keeping
> clean and dealing with the burning. It is a struggle just
> to get out of bed
> every day because I know what the day will be like. I am
> just so tired.

It also sounds like you have some depression!  The doc should
address that aspect of your life as well, and perhaps you
should consider seeing a mental health professional also.  I
had very intense depression due to circumstances, a
situational depression, and got good help from a
psychologist.  That's what they're there for!

Hope this helps some.

Brew

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My recommendation would be to go visit another doctor. There are ob/gyns who specialize in (female-obviously) patients with incontinence issues - mine's one of them.

I would also suggest (if you haven't done so) switching to 100% cotton undies and a very mild detergent (like ivory snow). I used to have rashes a lot as well, and that helped combat the problem.

----Original Message----
From: Doxiesmom@...
Date: 08/10/2006 13:57
To:
Subj: [Incont] Very frustrated after urologist visit

     Went to see my urologist for the second time yesterday and I am so frustrated and depressed! He did a cystoscopy, which I did not know he was planning to do in advance, but I went ahead and went through with it.