for me would be   the comfort that i get knowing that if  im in the
car or shopping      that  i can go to the bathroom and not  worrie.
I hate  public restrooms  there nasty.   Aslo i pee alot so  i need
the extra protection .
   Im  a 23 year old   that wair's  all day  every day  and at night
  it started out  to be  a hastle now its a lifestyle  and no one  will
change it MABY change THE DIapers But not who i am


  nappy new year lol  to all you

At 3:34 AM -0500 1/23/09, bseid33859@... wrote:

>Larry i had the same procedure in July 2008 and still leak. Oh the
>cancer is gone and hasnt shown back up. I told the urologist i can
>live with the incontinence. I feel greatful to be cancer free. I had
>three major suegeries in 2008. The guys I've talked to that had the
>radio active seed inplants had no after effects but the cancer is
>still there contained i guess. Some times i wonder if i wood have
>been better off with the seeds and radiation. I'm 63 going on 64 and
>just dont want to go through any more surgical procedures. I guess
>if i had to recommend what to do to someone i probably would say
>look real closely at the implants and radiology. Its a lot more
>expensive but are about as successful as the redical without all the
>pain and sufering and incontinence that come wth the radical. All of
>the guys i talked to at the doctors office that had the radical are
>still leaking also so i guess it is just someting to live with and
>adapt to. Oh the pull up diapers are just as comfortable as regular
>underware but it is an ongoing expense about $120 a month for two
>cases and i dont think my insurance Blue Cross will cover them. I'm
>fortunate to still have insurance since i retired but GM is probably
>going to go BK or at least cancel the retirees coverage. Thats
>another reason i went with the radical because if my insurance is
>cancelled I'd be up the creek without a paddle so to speak.
>Bill
>Roanoke, VA

Thanks for the response, Bill.

You made a good decision going with the surgery, as a lot of people
who have the seeds or radiation have the cancer come back in 10 or 15
years, and at that point it is much harder if not impossible to treat.

I encourage you to consider the AdVance Sling, my understanding is
that it is only a 20 to 30 minute procedure, and can be done with a
spinal if you do not want a general anesthetic.  If you Google it you
will come up with lots of info.  I also understand this is a
considerable improvement over sling procedures that were previously
available.

One reason I do want to take care of this is that I am a Naturist
(nudist).  It is just not acceptable to be dripping while walking
around a nudist resort (please don't say colony, I'm not a leper!) or
a nude beach.  So I'm hoping that getting the AdVance Sling will
allow me to resume participating in nudist activities.

I feel I've defeated cancer, so I don't want to take a defeatist
attitude with regard to the side effects of the surgery.

--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

Hi everyone,

This is my first post to this group.  I am a 58 year old male.  I
have been incontinent since July 2007 due to surgery of prostate
cancer.  The good news is I am now cancer-free, and no other
treatment is needed.

But, about five percent of the people who have this surgery (radical
prostectomy) are still incontinent one year after the surgery.  Seems
while I had the good luck to have my cancer caught early, I've had
the bad luck to be among the five percent who still have problems
after a year.

In November 2008 I had a procedure whereby the urologist used a laser
device inserted in the urethra to remove scar tissue from the
surgery.  This has actually left me more incontinent than I was
before, which the uro says sometimes happens with this procedure, but
it is necessary to have a clear urethra before doing other
procedures.  In the meantime I am going through two heavy duty pads a
day, while taking 15 Mg of Enablex daily.

What the urologist proposes after I heal from this latest procedure
(about four months) is to install an AdVance Sling, which he says
should make me dry.  I see a lot of good stuff about this on the
Internet, but then again a lot of this seems to come from the
manufacturer of this device and others with a vested interest
therein.  So I'm wondering if anyone here has had any experiences,
good or bad, with the AdVance Sling, and if it works as well as
advertised?

Thanks for your help, and 73 to any ham radio operators in the group.

--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "mike.marello" <mike.marello@...> wrote:
>
> hi guys an gals ive been using for 9 yrs now and am still not used to
it
> the only things that bothers me are the leaks anyone else the same
>I don't worry about leaks because I always wear plastic pants over my
diapers, both cloth and disposable. The pants prevent leaks and also
help contain odors and keep a soaked diaper from sagging. They were
recommended by my urologist about 10 years ago.
Tom
tomar@...

I wish all the German people a happy new year too. Hope all is well
is Bellflower. Have to go to the doctor on Friday will see what
happens.

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, Frank Frawley <frankfrawley@...> wrote:
>
> GERMAN FRIENDS
>  
> NOT TO FORGET MY GERMAN FRIENDS HERE AND OVER IN GERMANY. I WISH
YOU A GUTEN 2009 UND DEUTSCHEST FEST. ICH BIEN AUS BELLFLOWER
CALIFORNIA. HEUTE IST DAS SEHR GUTE.
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Ryan <ffbugwafd@...> wrote:
>
> From: Ryan <ffbugwafd@...>
> Subject: [Incont] Re: Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing
a diaper isn't so bad?
> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 6 or 7 Able to concetrate during long tests no more pee pee in
middle
> of a test
>
> --- In Incont@yahoogroups. com, Tony Di Antonio <tinytony59@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > # 9... NEVER HAVING TO MISS A GOOD MOVIE OR GAME, CUZ YA GOTTA
GET
> TO PEE LOL
> >
> > HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!!
> > TINY TONY
> >
> > To: Incont@yahoogroups. com
> > From: fastcarz442@ ...
> > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:24:40 +0000
> > Subject: [Incont] Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing a
> diaper isn't so bad?
> >
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> > Lets make a top 10 list!
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> > #10 never having to ask, where is your bathroom!
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> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass.
> > http://windowslive. com/oneline/ hotmail?
> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ WL_hotmail_ acq_anywhere_ 122008
> >
>

Vas ist losse mit dir?


--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, Frank Frawley <frankfrawley@...> wrote:
>
> GERMAN FRIENDS
>  
> NOT TO FORGET MY GERMAN FRIENDS HERE AND OVER IN GERMANY. I WISH
YOU A GUTEN 2009 UND DEUTSCHEST FEST. ICH BIEN AUS BELLFLOWER
CALIFORNIA. HEUTE IST DAS SEHR GUTE.
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Ryan <ffbugwafd@...> wrote:
>
> From: Ryan <ffbugwafd@...>
> Subject: [Incont] Re: Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing
a diaper isn't so bad?
> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 6 or 7 Able to concetrate during long tests no more pee pee in
middle
> of a test
>
> --- In Incont@yahoogroups. com, Tony Di Antonio <tinytony59@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > # 9... NEVER HAVING TO MISS A GOOD MOVIE OR GAME, CUZ YA GOTTA
GET
> TO PEE LOL
> >
> > HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!!
> > TINY TONY
> >
> > To: Incont@yahoogroups. com
> > From: fastcarz442@ ...
> > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:24:40 +0000
> > Subject: [Incont] Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing a
> diaper isn't so bad?
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> > Lets make a top 10 list!
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> > #10 never having to ask, where is your bathroom!
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> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass.
> > http://windowslive. com/oneline/ hotmail?
> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ WL_hotmail_ acq_anywhere_ 122008
> >
>

Ich bein ein Beliner

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, Frank Frawley <frankfrawley@...> wrote:
>
> GERMAN FRIENDS
>  
> NOT TO FORGET MY GERMAN FRIENDS HERE AND OVER IN GERMANY. I WISH
YOU A GUTEN 2009 UND DEUTSCHEST FEST. ICH BIEN AUS BELLFLOWER
CALIFORNIA. HEUTE IST DAS SEHR GUTE.
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Ryan <ffbugwafd@...> wrote:
>
> From: Ryan <ffbugwafd@...>
> Subject: [Incont] Re: Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing
a diaper isn't so bad?
> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 6 or 7 Able to concetrate during long tests no more pee pee in
middle
> of a test
>
> --- In Incont@yahoogroups. com, Tony Di Antonio <tinytony59@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > # 9... NEVER HAVING TO MISS A GOOD MOVIE OR GAME, CUZ YA GOTTA
GET
> TO PEE LOL
> >
> > HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!!
> > TINY TONY
> >
> > To: Incont@yahoogroups. com
> > From: fastcarz442@ ...
> > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:24:40 +0000
> > Subject: [Incont] Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing a
> diaper isn't so bad?
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > #10 never having to ask, where is your bathroom!
> >
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> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass.
> > http://windowslive. com/oneline/ hotmail?
> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ WL_hotmail_ acq_anywhere_ 122008
> >
>

I hate when I leak especially since I  try so hard to be protected. It
seems leaks happen and I really don't understand why. I don't overload
my diapers and change regularly. Give new meaning to being pissed off.

-- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "mike.marello" <mike.marello@...> wrote:
>
> hi guys an gals ive been using for 9 yrs now and am still not used to it
> the only things that bothers me are the leaks anyone else the same
>

hi guys an gals ive been using for 9 yrs now and am still not used to it
the only things that bothers me are the leaks anyone else the same

Hi there names Richard and Im from Grimsby in the UK.

Joined here a while ago but havent as yet posted so thought Id better
drop you all a line and say hi and wish you well :).

I too am double incontinent and in nappies 24 hours a day follwing a
stroke back in 2005.

Before that I did have to wear on and off during the day and pretty
much all the time at night for an Overactive Bladder I was diagnosed
with having at 13. Back then I wasnt sure what was happening. Went
from being dry to having to rush for the toilet or not making it at
all and 9 times out of 10 woke up each morning to a wet bed. Being 13
and in boarding school it was so embarrassing and frustrating having
these probs so was glad when I was shown nappies as a way of dealing
with the problem although back then I hated having to wear them when I
did.

That overcome I came to terms with wearing them until after the stroke
in 2005 when I lost total control of both front and back ends and had
to go in them 24/7 !. It was like climbing the emotional ladder of
getting used to it all again to me and even now 4 years on I still get
paranoid about others noticing when Im out that Im wearing a nappy or
it showing. If I end up dirty I usually just want to run straight home
without stopping if out.

I think for anyone in my stiuation they will understand what I mean
with it and for anyone suffering with any type of incontinence its a
problem and a problem I wouldnt want to wish on anyone,

So Im glad somebody came up with this great idea for a group so we can
all get together, share experiences, hints and tips etc... about how
we can all help and happily live and come to terms with having or
being incontinent :).

I hope to chat to some of you soon and if anyone has a brainwave of
how I might be able to overcome my fears when out and wearing
mentioned above please feel free to drop me a line :)

All my best wishes to all :)
Richard S

Boy I can sure relate to your embarassing moment have prostate
problems and usually wear protection but one time was without an
needed gas so while pumping gas had awetting accident due to urge
incontinence,went straight home.Is funny now but don't take any
chances now.

Exactly, find the most absorbent protection you can, use a booster if
you need too, try to keep your skin as dry as possible. I use pm or
all night diapers as they are more absorbent than daytime. Since you
are seated all the time, one needs to keep the wetness away from your
skin and as contained as possible since you probably don't get changed
as often as you want to.



--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "jeff" <fastcarz442@...> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to check with other incont wheelchair users to see what
> works and what doesn't work... being a guy and seated all day and in
> and out of cars and fairly active, I have found a few things that work
> better for me, like a higher waisted diaper and using a booster pad,
> since the front panel is the main area of absorbsion for a guy who is
> seated, this is probably different for a woman etc etc.... I think us
> wheelers could benefit from this discussion... please add any advice ,
> brands or whatever...
>

Just wanted to check with other incont wheelchair users to see what
works and what doesn't work... being a guy and seated all day and in
and out of cars and fairly active, I have found a few things that work
better for me, like a higher waisted diaper and using a booster pad,
since the front panel is the main area of absorbsion for a guy who is
seated, this is probably different for a woman etc etc.... I think us
wheelers could benefit from this discussion... please add any advice ,
brands or whatever...

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "jeff" <fastcarz442@...> wrote:
>
> Lets make a top 10 list!
>
> #10 never having to ask, where is your bathroom!
>

     It supports the cotton growing farmers and puts money in our
downward economy.

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "Dieselman78" <dieselman781@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, DW Floyd <dfloyd5491@> wrote:
> >
> > #8, Not having to pull over on long trips for pee breaks.
> >
> # 3 or 4 Being able to pump gas without worry of spilling more than
gas
>
also helps get rid of trucker bombs

uso calzon de goma o calzones de latex son mas comodos y seguros de
esos que se usaban antiguamente los bebe aun los fabrican y son
excelente en la proteccion de la humedad

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, DW Floyd <dfloyd5491@...> wrote:
>
> #8, Not having to pull over on long trips for pee breaks.
>
# 3 or 4 Being able to pump gas without worry of spilling more than gas

5. You never have to lose your place waiting in line for a theme park ride.

Ray

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan" <ffbugwafd@...>
To: <Incont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:50 PM
Subject: [Incont] Re: Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing a diaper
isn't so bad?


>6 or 7 Able to concetrate during long tests no more pee pee in middle
> of a test
>
> --- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, Tony Di Antonio <tinytony59@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> # 9... NEVER HAVING TO MISS A GOOD MOVIE OR GAME, CUZ YA GOTTA GET
> TO PEE LOL
>>
>> HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!!
>> TINY TONY
>>
>> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
>> From: fastcarz442@...
>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:24:40 +0000
>> Subject: [Incont] Top 10 best reasons, being incont and wearing a
> diaper isn't so bad?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>             Lets make a top 10 list!
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>> #10 never having to ask, where is your bathroom!