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#2045 From: "patrick" <patrickcroteau33@...>
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2007 1:19 am
Subject: Re: Incontinence protection and changing
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hi walter .
yeah truly incontiennt , the fact is there is more AB DL member on
this site then truly incontiennt one . anyway i agrea with you that
wearing a wet diaper for long period of time is not good for the
skin .

me at day i use TENA ULTRA diaper and i change my self every 4 hours
or more often , at night i use depends maximum absorbancy i find them
more absorbent then the tena super and the skin is more dry .
sometime i use abena extra when i know i will sleep for a minimum of
8 hours or i use the abena x-plus for 10 hours or more , but that
hapend only couple time per year .

patrick .


--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "walsue01" <walsue01@...> wrote:
>
> I have been reading the many comments about the length of time
> various people go between changing their incontinence diapers. To
me,
> those that buy the super absorbent products in order to go 12 or
more
> hours without a change are foolish. I have been incontinent for
many
> years, and from the unfortunate beginning of my incotinence, have
> been taught and agree that frequent changing is necessary for good
> personal hygiene and skin health. Wearing a wet diaper for long
> periods of time leads to skin breakdown, odors, and general
bacteria
> development.
>
> I change atleast every four hours during the day, and more often if
I
> have an unusually heavy flow. I generally use Attends; however,
have
> found that the Abena Plus diaper is a good alternative and can
often
> be bought for the same price as Attends. On those occasions when I
> know changing could be a problem, I add a booster pad which will
> handle the extra flow. I simply don't like being in a wet diaper,
and
> can't understand why anyone would.
>
> For overnight, I do use a more absorbent product; usually the Tena
> Super. My sleep pattern is normally 6 - 7 hours, so the skin
exposure
> is greater, but surely not for 12 or more hours of wetness.
>
> I'd appreciate comments from others that are truly incontinent.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Walter
>

#2044 From: "walsue01" <walsue01@...>
Date: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:46 pm
Subject: Incontinence protection and changing
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I have been reading the many comments about the length of time
various people go between changing their incontinence diapers. To me,
those that buy the super absorbent products in order to go 12 or more
hours without a change are foolish. I have been incontinent for many
years, and from the unfortunate beginning of my incotinence, have
been taught and agree that frequent changing is necessary for good
personal hygiene and skin health. Wearing a wet diaper for long
periods of time leads to skin breakdown, odors, and general bacteria
development.

I change atleast every four hours during the day, and more often if I
have an unusually heavy flow. I generally use Attends; however, have
found that the Abena Plus diaper is a good alternative and can often
be bought for the same price as Attends. On those occasions when I
know changing could be a problem, I add a booster pad which will
handle the extra flow. I simply don't like being in a wet diaper, and
can't understand why anyone would.

For overnight, I do use a more absorbent product; usually the Tena
Super. My sleep pattern is normally 6 - 7 hours, so the skin exposure
is greater, but surely not for 12 or more hours of wetness.

I'd appreciate comments from others that are truly incontinent.

Best to all,

Walter

#2043 From: "BRENT JANNERETH" <bmta1970@...>
Date: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Abena and Molicare diapers are probly the top 2 highest absorbency
adult diapers you can buy.there made IN Europe where
  incon products are alot more absorbent and better quality then most
any American brand out there.
their like the Cadilac or Lincoln of adult diapers.
does everybody need that much absobency ? maybe not. many do.
but if your a heavy wetter like me it's best to have all the
absorbency you can get. if your diapers aren't absorbent enough
then you have leaks.
so I say better over protected,then under protected.















--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "stom28" <stom28@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "????" <disdiaperboy@> wrote:
> > Abena makes about if not the most heavy duty disposable diaper on
> the market and I would agree the molicare is a second or maybe a
> third. I have little to no control of my bladder and can tell you
> from experience that these diapers will out preform most
incontinence
> products hands down. yes they are $$$ but you get what you pay for.
> you can find good deals on these products from time to time on
Ebay.
> I don't use these products all the time and most of the time when I
> do wear them is at night. I can honestly say that I've gone 12-14
> hours in the top of the line Abenas also known as Abri Form without
a
> leak. Most of the time I wear a more middle of the road diaper like
> attends, tranquility atn or tena's ultras or sometimes the supers
> often i use a booster pad as well along with one of these brands. I
> would agree that wearing the same brief for 24 hours would be
rather
> discussing and could promote a good rash. That sounds like a fetish
> thing to me. ...............Sandy
>
> > From what I have seen ABs general answers to diapers are abena )
> what ever
> > that is, or molicare (so ungodly expensive there  is no reason to
> buy them).
> > Their sights say that an abena can last 24 hours, and a molicare
> can last 16
> > (anyone here want to stay in the same incontinence items that
> long). I
> > wanted to see if your idea that they knew somethign  about the
> products we
> > didn't would work, they know disgusting things but any hygenic
> thing I have
> > learned from other people with "issues" or medical professionals.
> Some ABs
> > where incontinent first so if they want to talk about the
> incontinent part
> > of their life or put in the 2 cents about protective items then I
> cna
> > understand but to tell you the truth, I would prefer to avoid
> sexual stuff
> > here. There is a line because talking about co-medical conditions
> (many men
> > with incontinence also have sexual disfunction, many women have
> depression
> > which lead to sexual dysfuction), that is very different then
(fill
> in the
> > blank) turns me on or sex was (fill in the blank).
> >
> > :: gets off soap box::
> >
>

#2042 From: "stom28" <stom28@...>
Date: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:42 am
Subject: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "????" <disdiaperboy@...> wrote:
> Abena makes about if not the most heavy duty disposable diaper on
the market and I would agree the molicare is a second or maybe a
third. I have little to no control of my bladder and can tell you
from experience that these diapers will out preform most incontinence
products hands down. yes they are $$$ but you get what you pay for.
you can find good deals on these products from time to time on Ebay.
I don't use these products all the time and most of the time when I
do wear them is at night. I can honestly say that I've gone 12-14
hours in the top of the line Abenas also known as Abri Form without a
leak. Most of the time I wear a more middle of the road diaper like
attends, tranquility atn or tena's ultras or sometimes the supers
often i use a booster pad as well along with one of these brands. I
would agree that wearing the same brief for 24 hours would be rather
discussing and could promote a good rash. That sounds like a fetish
thing to me. ...............Sandy

> From what I have seen ABs general answers to diapers are abena )
what ever
> that is, or molicare (so ungodly expensive there  is no reason to
buy them).
> Their sights say that an abena can last 24 hours, and a molicare
can last 16
> (anyone here want to stay in the same incontinence items that
long). I
> wanted to see if your idea that they knew somethign  about the
products we
> didn't would work, they know disgusting things but any hygenic
thing I have
> learned from other people with "issues" or medical professionals.
Some ABs
> where incontinent first so if they want to talk about the
incontinent part
> of their life or put in the 2 cents about protective items then I
cna
> understand but to tell you the truth, I would prefer to avoid
sexual stuff
> here. There is a line because talking about co-medical conditions
(many men
> with incontinence also have sexual disfunction, many women have
depression
> which lead to sexual dysfuction), that is very different then (fill
in the
> blank) turns me on or sex was (fill in the blank).
>
> :: gets off soap box::
>

#2041 From: "????" <disdiaperboy@...>
Date: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:34 am
Subject: Re: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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From what I have seen ABs general answers to diapers are abena )what ever that is, or molicare (so ungodly expensive there  is no reason to buy them). Their sights say that an abena can last 24 hours, and a molicare can last 16 (anyone here want to stay in the same incontinence items that long). I wanted to see if your idea that they knew somethign  about the products we didn't would work, they know disgusting things but any hygenic thing I have learned from other people with "issues" or medical professionals. Some ABs where incontinent first so if they want to talk about the incontinent part of their life or put in the 2 cents about protective items then I cna understand but to tell you the truth, I would prefer to avoid sexual stuff here. There is a line because talking about co-medical conditions (many men with incontinence also have sexual disfunction, many women have depression which lead to sexual dysfuction), that is very different then (fill in the blank) turns me on or sex was (fill in the blank).
 
:: gets off soap box::
 
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#2040 From: "BRENT JANNERETH" <bmta1970@...>
Date: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:21 am
Subject: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Hello;
just for clarification I said i was NOT!!! an AB/DL!!!
but anyway, the point I was trying to make is that if their not
posting fetish posting what's the problem?
many ab/dl know more about diapers or other incon products then most
of us an some may have been incon and developed their fetish as a way
of dealing with incon.
If that's what helps them cope, then that's their business.










--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Di Antonio" <tinytony59@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Brent,
> If you are an AB/DL, there are many groups that you could join
where you can post to your hearts content as it relates to AB/DL
discussions.
> If you read my last post to this group, I don't or won't judge
anyone.
> To each his/her own!
> I moderate a couple of incon groups, and we do have some AB/DL'S as
members.
> They in fact do have true and legit incontinence issues they are
dealing with, however, they must keep their AB/DL side outside of the
groups.
>
> Incontinence support groups, are just that...SUPPORT GROUPS....
> As I said, I don't judge people, but we must respect and adhere to
the rules that the owner of a group outlines for us.
> There are groups that I belong to, and don't necessarily agree with
some rules.
> However, if I wish to remaina member of that group, then I must
abide by their rules.
> Not just a few of them, but all of them.
> As I said, there are many groups on line that does cater to your
particular concerns.
> Having said that, I wish you and the group a pleasant day and week!
> Take care,
> Tiny Tony
> " WE SHARE, BECAUSE, WE CARE "
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: BRENT JANNERETH<mailto:bmta1970@...>
>   To: Incont@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Incont@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:28 AM
>   Subject: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber
pants !
>
>
>
>   Hello
>   I agree theirs been a lot of negativity on this board lately
>   and one of the reasons I haven't posted lately, I can't stand
negativity.
>   I'm no an AB/DL but I think they need support too and could also
give support and should have the right to post here as well.
>   what ever floats peoples boats as they say.
>   Sincerely, Brent Jannereth
>

#2039 From: "kewlman6798" <kewlman6798@...>
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:17 am
Subject: Looking for others
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Hey guys,
    I am kind of new here. I have been a member for awhile but haven't
post in a very long time. I am 23 and have ulcerative colits, and over
active bladder. I am looking for some suport, It can be lonley
sometimes. If your intrested in chating feel free to IM me at
Kewlman6798. Or my aim is singer4u242. I am just looking for others to
chat with that know what it's like. I going to try and post here more
often.
thanks
-Dave

#2038 From: "Jack Kramer" <babyvamp@...>
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:16 am
Subject: Wreaths Across America, 12/15/2007
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Hello All,
 
 Please remember all past, current and future veterans on this memorable day of recognition not Memorial Day and honor of service benefiting our nations pride and self worth as a country. I am not much of a talker but finally had the honor to meet such a man earlier this year at a monument dedication in my cities. The dedication and honor that he displayed for these heroes of our freedom will always remain in my mind from that day. He did and still does in so many ways exhibit what our freedom has cost our veteran's and the honor that makes America the great country we live in. I hope that one day I will be able to stand next to that man in full military dress uniform for a picture to show my children someday, so that also will know what a hero and veteran looks like. Please look at this site and if you can, assist in this very honorable task at hand. I ask as a friend, and as a 14 year service member that we do our best to bring this country back to the respected place it held in the world for the strength and honor it showed so proudly for so long. That bright shine has become a faded glory that brings pain in the hearts of so many of us that have sworn to honor and protect it, help us at least one small mission at a time to once again help this nation shine and be deserving of the great bird that still does it's best to hold our honor in it's talons as our national symbol. I honestly have no idea why I feel so deeply about this except, for the fact that I was at that dedication and saw some of the greatest heroes this nation has ever had and has become forgotten to a point. Please support your Veteran's Homes and when able just donate a little time and talk to one or a few, it will help you understand at least a little why our soldiers will lay their lives in front of an aggressor so that our nation remains free. Do you know any veteran's? If you do and can find the time, just tell them thank you for what you do for us. They will appreciate it more than any of us may ever know, and if we do we may chat for just a little while with you to tell you thanks for thanking us. Without all of you that do support and honor all of us, no matter what branch, when we served or what we saw in your un-failing love of God and country. I personally will always serve, I have to! I swore to uphold, honor and protect the Constitution of the United states of America some 20 years ago now against all enemies foreign or domestic. I thankfully can never forget that promise or the honor I felt in doing so. I see daily the total disregard of responsibilities throughout my day and night and get angered by my guilt in doing the same occasionally, but I have never slacked in defending those around me. I hear jokes and comments made in snide remarks from those that have never even been half able to swear what I have and continue to along with so many of my piers. I will protect these smack talkers always because they are part of our country and citizens here under our flag. I am sorry this became so long, I just didn't know when to stop what I felt from typing.
Take care and God bless,
 
Jack Kramer
Spc4/E-4 US Army 15 years honorable,separated
 
PS- Honor a Veteran, for a veteran has always honored you!
 
" Accept me for who I am, it is me true and honest!"
 
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: Fw: Wreaths Across America


The Wreaths Across America program will take place at Noon ET on Saturday,
December 15, 2007.

Information about the annual program can be found at
http://www.wreaths-across-america.org/

Locations in Michigan for the program include Great Lakes National Cemetery,
Ft.Custer National Cemetery, the Grand Rapids Home for Veterans Cemetery and
Chapel Hill Memorial Cemetery in Grand Rapids.

#2037 From: Scott Kay <fakename4me@...>
Date: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:48 am
Subject: RE: AB/DL on here
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> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> From: boomer2480@...
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:59:58 +0000
> Subject: [Incont] AB/DL
>
> My vote is no ab/dl stuff on this site. They have plenty of sites that
> are devoted to that, I don't have anything against them but would
> prefer not to delve into that here.

 
I would have to agree.
Unless there is something relevant to incontinence, the AB/DL content is just plain rude.  This is an Incontinence BB (Yahoo Group or whatever), not AB/DL anything.
And this comment is from a DL... 
(Sorry for posting)


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#2036 From: "Mike" <allaboutdiapers@...>
Date: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:23 am
Subject: Re: AB/DL
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I don't think they should be discussing their love of diapers here, but
I certainly welcome them from the angle of having experience and
opinions on the quality of absorbent products.

I'd also like to hear more from the people who don't wear diapers,
those who use pills, exercise and other methods to control their
incontinence.

#2035 From: "stom28" <stom28@...>
Date: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:56 am
Subject: Re: AB/DL
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--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick" <patrickcroteau33@...> wrote:
>
You got my vote NO AB/DL stuff there's plenty of sites that cater to
that crowd why should we have to. I dropped out of the depend board
because of all the AB/DL people masquerading as one of us. They can
be so easy to pick out. Just by there name having something like baby
or diaper or little etc. You run a good chance that they would turn
out to be from that crowd. I'm really happy with the ISC board
schoppy does a great job with that board. but there is a lack of
participation on there so that's why I came on here......Sandy

> yeah I'm thinking the same as you .
> they have plenty of other group to talk about diaper .
>
> Patrick .
>
> --- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "formerboomer" <boomer2480@> wrote:
> >
> > My vote is no ab/dl stuff on this site. They have plenty of sites
> that
> > are devoted to that, I don't have anything against them but would
> > prefer not to delve into that here.
> >
>

#2034 From: "patrick" <patrickcroteau33@...>
Date: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:12 am
Subject: Re: AB/DL
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yeah i'm thinking the same as you .
they have plenty of other group to talk about diaper .

patrick .

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "formerboomer" <boomer2480@...> wrote:
>
> My vote is no ab/dl stuff on this site. They have plenty of sites
that
> are devoted to that, I don't have anything against them but would
> prefer not to delve into that here.
>

#2033 From: "Tony Di Antonio" <tinytony59@...>
Date: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Hi Brent,
If you are an AB/DL, there are many groups that you could join where you can post to your hearts content as it relates to AB/DL discussions.
If you read my last post to this group, I don't or won't judge anyone.
To each his/her own!
I moderate a couple of incon groups, and we do have some AB/DL'S as members.
They in fact do have true and legit incontinence issues they are dealing with, however, they must keep their AB/DL side outside of the groups.
 
Incontinence support groups, are just that...SUPPORT GROUPS....
As I said, I don't judge people, but we must respect and adhere to the rules that the owner of a group outlines for us.
There are groups that I belong to, and don't necessarily agree with some rules.
However, if I wish to remaina member of that group, then I must abide by their rules.
Not just a few of them, but all of them.
As I said, there are many groups on line that does cater to your particular concerns.
Having said that, I wish you and the group a pleasant day and week!
Take care,
Tiny Tony  Smiley emoticon
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:28 AM
Subject: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

Hello
I agree theirs been a lot of negativity on this board lately
and one of the reasons I haven't posted lately, I can't stand negativity.
I'm no an AB/DL but I think they need support too and could also give support and should have the right to post here as well.
what ever floats peoples boats as they say.
Sincerely, Brent Jannereth


#2032 From: "formerboomer" <boomer2480@...>
Date: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:59 pm
Subject: AB/DL
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My vote is no ab/dl stuff on this site. They have plenty of sites that
are devoted to that, I don't have anything against them but would
prefer not to delve into that here.

#2031 From: "BRENT JANNERETH" <bmta1970@...>
Date: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Hello
I agree theirs been a lot of negativity on this board lately
and one of the reasons I haven't posted lately, I can't stand negativity.
I'm no an AB/DL but I think they need support too and could also give support and should have the right to post here as well.
what ever floats peoples boats as they say.
Sincerely, Brent Jannereth

#2030 From: "Jack Kramer" <babyvamp@...>
Date: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Thanks Tony, I agree with YOU 100%. People really need to open their eyes and hearts to more than just what they believe to be the only way.
Take care,
Jack Kramer
 
" Accept me for who I am, it is me true and honest!"
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

Hi Everyone!
I've been reading posts from this group over the past few days, and must say that I'm very disapointed.
Once again, as I stated in a post I sent to this group, we're a support group, not a group who criticizes, chastizes and posts negative comments, thus, discouraging members to post in the group.
 
As the old saying goes: " LIVE, AND LET LIVE "
For those of us who have relegious belief's,
" JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED "
 
So folks, let's get back to what this group is all about.
It's about, caring, understanding, acceptance and most important: " SUPPORT "
 
As you can see, I was blunt, yet understanding, diplomatic and supportive in this post.
I'll get off my soap box once again, and hope we can all just get along!
My MS is kicking me in my diapered butt today, but like my spina bifida and incontinence, it's going to have to work around me, not me, around it!
I bid you all a pleasant and produtive day and new week!
Take care,
Tiny Tony  Smiley emoticon
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.


#2029 From: "Tony Di Antonio" <tinytony59@...>
Date: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Hi Everyone!
I've been reading posts from this group over the past few days, and must say that I'm very disapointed.
Once again, as I stated in a post I sent to this group, we're a support group, not a group who criticizes, chastizes and posts negative comments, thus, discouraging members to post in the group.
 
My wife and I own a few groups non related to incontinence, and I moderate a few incontinence support groups, as well as quite a few other groups of various interests.
Now I agree with the people who posted here stating that they don't want ab/dl's posting their particular interests that is ab/dl related.
That's not what this group is about.
I also agree that were not all babies at heart just becaue some of us have to wear diapers in their various forms.
 
I think I can safely say that most of us here have some sort of Fetish, if you want to call it a fetish, that we enjoy.
Mind you, I said most of us, not all of us, and some that won't admit that we have a fixation on inaminate objects etc.
I don't, or won't bash, criticize or chastize you just because you like doing something that brings extreme pleasure and enjoyment to you.
Just don't try and push it on me...PERIOD....THE END....
 
One of the support groups I moderate has some ab/dl's as members.
They are truly incontinent, and seek help and support in dealing with their incontinence.
It's made very clear to them prior to being approved, that they cannot present any type of ab/dl dialogue in the group.
If they do, there given one warning, if they persist, there membership is terminated.
What we don't do is criticize or bash them for being AB/DL'S.
I surely don't criticize their mentality for liking what they like.
 
Case in point, take a look at me.
I endured physical, mental and emotional abuse for the first 16 years of my life, before my aunt sought and gained legal custody of me.
My folks being the old fashioned italian's that they are had a philosophy that all male members of a family, cannot and should not  be born with any physical defects.
If they were, they were considered to be outcasts and faliures.
You can well imagine how my folks felt when the doctor told them that I had a moderate Spina Bifida which caused my bladder to leak severly, and further suggested that they keep me in cloth diapers and plastic pants to effectively manage this irreversible medical malady.
 
I was teased, beaten and humiliated daily, made to sleep in a crib and nurse a baby bottle until age 16.
I absolutely hated wearing diapers, and just the mention of the word diaper.
Thankfully, my aunt, over time showed me that wearing diapers and plastic pants was nothing to be ashamed of, and that many kids my age, as well as adults, wore diapers to
 manage their particular incontinence issues.
I could have grown up to be mean, cold hearted, and vindictive.
However, I chose not to go that route, and accepted my incontinence, my diapers, and wouldin't allow these issues to interfere in my goals of pursuing a college education.
 
Today, I am the receipent of a Bachelor's degree in Enviromental Services, and also have a Masters Degree in Healthcare Administration.
I am also a recepient of an Honary Doctrates Degree from my Alma Mater for my life's work in the healthcare industry.
If I took to heart my folks impression of me being a failure, I surely would have turned out to be mean, cold hearted and vindictive, and probably wind up on the streets as a homeless person.
 
As I stated in my original post a few days ago, were not doctor's!
We don't know why some people are ab/dl/s ???
I do know after speaking with many ab'dl's, many of them came from the same or similar back grounds that I endured, so maybe, just maybe, this is a way for them to cope with their past.
I don't judge them, or think that their mentally unbalanced or think what they do behind closed doors is a perversion.
As I said earlier in this post, I'm pretty sure most of us have some sort of fixation, or fetish that we don't talk about publically.
Whatever it may be, I'm not here to judge, bash, criticize or chastize you.
 
As the old saying goes: " LIVE, AND LET LIVE "
For those of us who have relegious belief's,
" JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED "
 
Now for those of us who have difficulty trying to decipher messages that some members post here, if you have difficulty interperting or trying to understand a particular message, do your best to try and understand what the member is trying to express.
If you can't, just hit your delete button on your puter.
What we shouldin't do, is to criticize one's grammar or spelling.
Again, were not here in the business of criticizing, were here to support, offer suggestions, idea's and experiences with the hope that what we say, will in some way help our brothers and sisters in this group, to better understand and accept their particular inontinence issues.
 
When we criticize, members will be quite hesitant to post for fear of being criticized and bashed.
Then you see a post from the owner of the group, asking why noone is posting.
I have a member in one of my incon support groups that I moderate who lives in Argentina.
When he posts a message to the group, it is extremely hard to decipher what the gentleman is trying to express.
His handle on the english language is to say the least, Lacking!
However, he does his best to express himself, and we as members encouraged him to take some basic english lessons, which he has , and still does take.
 
I had a member who constantly criticized this individual, and after a couple of warnings, I BANNED him from the group.
Diplomacy, understanding, and being helpful and supportive can go a long, long way!
So folks, let's get back to what this group is all about.
It's about, caring, understanding, acceptance and most important: " SUPPORT "
 
As you can see, I was blunt, yet understanding, diplomatic and supportive in this post.
I'll get off my soap box once again, and hope we can all just get along!
My MS is kicking me in my diapered butt today, but like my spina bifida and incontinence, it's going to have to work around me, not me, around it!
I bid you all a pleasant and produtive day and new week!
Take care,
Tiny Tony  Smiley emoticon
" WE SHARE, BECAUSE, WE CARE "
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

To be honest I'd agree with Sandy on this one.  I at least think we'd like diapers over surgery or catheters.  Oh, and for those of you out in this group who do get off from this I don't care, just don't say it.  If you like this stuff that's 'your cup of tea' not ours.  Please if you are hear just for self-stimulation keep your ideas to yourself.  Thanks.  Oh, and one more thought for everyone else that posts on this group, please start to check your spelling and grammer, I am getting a little ticked having to decipher what people are saying.  Not trying to be rude but I have taken as long as 5 minutes to figure out what someone was saying in one sentence.  Thanks everyong and sorry about the bluntness.


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#2028 From: "Tony" <iluv3469@...>
Date: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:26 am
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something you wish to ask , if so ask because I'm not a shy person and
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#2027 From: Bryon Triplett <necrilian_babies@...>
Date: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:35 am
Subject: Re: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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To be honest I'd agree with Sandy on this one.  I at least think we'd like diapers over surgery or catheters.  Oh, and for those of you out in this group who do get off from this I don't care, just don't say it.  If you like this stuff that's 'your cup of tea' not ours.  Please if you are hear just for self-stimulation keep your ideas to yourself.  Thanks.  Oh, and one more thought for everyone else that posts on this group, please start to check your spelling and grammer, I am getting a little ticked having to decipher what people are saying.  Not trying to be rude but I have taken as long as 5 minutes to figure out what someone was saying in one sentence.  Thanks everyong and sorry about the bluntness.


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#2026 From: "????" <disdiaperboy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Sandy,
 I for one and behind you. I do not think we are all babies at heart, nor do I enjoy my diapers. I really do hope nobody gets their sexual pleasure from this group. That is really disgusting to think about. 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: stom28
Date: 11/25/2007 3:09:25 PM
Subject: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
 


> Don't count me into your idea of us all being "Babies" I'm a full
grown fully active Adult. With only one draw back I have a bad
bladder. I don't enjoy having to wear diapers but it's part of my
life. I've never thought diapers to be kinky. And I don't much care
for the Idea of being considered a baby at heart. I have very little
respect for anyone with the AB/DL mentality. If you reading this are
one. I would hope that you would keep it to yourself and not share
your perversion. Or use this board to feed your perversion. Anyone
else feel the same way? Sandy

> Hi guys / girls the truth as I see it is we are all babies at heart
and enjoy wearing nappies the thrill of being different is a bit
kinky and I love it if you would like to meet for a coffee and a yarn
contact me ? Joseph
>
> stephen laws <laws36@...> wrote: hi idid not enjoy
wearing my nappies at first just a 1yer ago now its
just like wearing JIM JAMS FOR BED IM OK WITH IT NOW stphn
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> From: renegerkwa@...
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:25:05 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Incont] bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber
pants !
>
> you just have to enjoy ur diapers and plastic pants like
I do.
> I have also wett my bed all my life
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: bigbabyindiapers1952 <bigbabyindiapers1952@...>
> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November, 2007 4:56:52 PM
> Subject: [Incont] bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
>
> I HAVE BEEN A BED WETTER SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD, IAM NOW AGE
55 AND
> STLL WET THE BED. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT , I HAD INCONTIENCE DUE TO
> THE WAY, I WAS TREATED AS A BOY. MY MOTHER KEPT ME IN DIAPERS AND
> RUBBER PANTS,I WAS TREATED LIKE A BABY TO THE AGE OF 25 YEARS OLD.
A
> QUESTION ! WAS THIS THE REAL CAUSE OF MY INCONTINENCE? ??? CAN SOME
ONE
> GIVE SOME ADVICE ??
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#2025 From: Kevin Ford <georgiabulldog0206@...>
Date: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:20 am
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#2024 From: "stom28" <stom28@...>
Date: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:13 am
Subject: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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> Don't count me into your idea of us all being "Babies" I'm a full
grown fully active Adult. With only one draw back I have a bad
bladder. I don't enjoy having to wear diapers but it's part of my
life. I've never thought diapers to be kinky. And I don't much care
for the Idea of being considered a baby at heart. I have very little
respect for anyone with the AB/DL mentality. If you reading this are
one. I would hope that you would keep it to yourself and not share
your perversion. Or use this board to feed your perversion.  Anyone
else feel the same way?  Sandy

> Hi guys / girls the truth as I see it is we are all babies at heart
and enjoy wearing nappies the thrill of being different is a bit
kinky and I love it if you would like to meet for a coffee and a yarn
contact me ? Joseph
>
> stephen laws <laws36@...> wrote:          hi  idid  not  enjoy
wearing  my   nappies  at  first   just  a  1yer  ago  now  its
just  like  wearing  JIM JAMS   FOR  BED IM  OK  WITH  IT  NOW  stphn
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>   To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> From: renegerkwa@...
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:25:05 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Incont] bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber
pants !
>
>           you just have to enjoy ur diapers and plastic pants like
I do.
>   I have also wett my bed all my life
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----
> From: bigbabyindiapers1952 <bigbabyindiapers1952@...>
> To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November, 2007 4:56:52 PM
> Subject: [Incont] bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
>
>     I HAVE BEEN A BED WETTER SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD, IAM NOW AGE
55 AND
> STLL WET THE BED. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT , I HAD INCONTIENCE DUE TO
> THE WAY, I WAS TREATED AS A BOY. MY MOTHER KEPT ME IN DIAPERS AND
> RUBBER PANTS,I WAS TREATED LIKE A BABY TO THE AGE OF 25 YEARS OLD.
A
> QUESTION ! WAS THIS THE REAL CAUSE OF MY INCONTINENCE? ??? CAN SOME
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#2023 From: stephen laws <laws36@...>
Date: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:23 pm
Subject: RE: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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hi  good  for  you   Tonyyou took  the  words  out  of  my  mouth   stphn  ( SUPPORT  GROUP)


To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
From: tinytony59@...
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:41:02 -0500
Subject: Re: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

Hi Tiny Tony here.
I got a little concerned with cubittriangle1's ending comments to bigbabyin diapers when he suggested that he shouldin't bring his concerns to this group.
I thought we were suppose to be a support group?
Not a group who places judgment on members concerns and then threatens the individual that he'll be reported to the authorities, stating that a group such as our's is not a proper place to seek help/advice.
 
I offered bigbabyindiapers the same basic suggestions re: seeking help/advice from a urologist and physcologist.
Obviously, we are not doctors here, but we in fact are a support group, hence, if in any way we can help, we can and should.
 
If you read my original reply to bigbabyindiapers, you would note that I offered support and suggestions....Not judgements or threats.
Having said that, let's remember that we all have our own unique and bonified concerns re: our particular incontinence issues.
Support means just that! SUPPORT!!!
Ok I'll get off my soap box now lol.
Hope everyone has a great weekend!
Take care,
Tiny Tony  Smiley emoticon
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "bigbabyindiapers1952"
<bigbabyindiapers1952@...> wrote:
>
> I HAVE BEEN A BED WETTER SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD, IAM NOW AGE 55 AND
> STLL WET THE BED. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT , I HAD INCONTIENCE DUE TO
> THE WAY, I WAS TREATED AS A BOY. MY MOTHER KEPT ME IN DIAPERS AND
> RUBBER PANTS,I WAS TREATED LIKE A BABY TO THE AGE OF 25 YEARS OLD. A
> QUESTION ! WAS THIS THE REAL CAUSE OF MY INCONTINENCE???? CAN SOME
ONE
> GIVE SOME ADVICE ??
>
First you should not be asking here you should be asking your
urologist. If you dont have one, get one. You need to get some answers
from him/her as to why your wetting your bed/pants. If they canot find
a problem you need to see a physcologist and ask them if its a result
of your childhood.
Second you need to find an adult board to post your fanatasies you
should not be talking to young girls and boys about your wetting
problems.
Third if you continue to do so you will be turned into the autorties
as to your behavoir. It is not proper for an adult to have such
contact about your wettinjg problems.





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#2022 From: "depend65" <depend65@...>
Date: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:35 pm
Subject: Bladder schrinking ?
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For the past nine year I have been incontinent and for the last two
years I have been unable to retain any urine is it passable that my
bladder is shrink ink?

#2021 From: "troy20772" <troy20772@...>
Date: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Hi all I'm new here
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Hi Sandy I'm troy20772 I've dealt with incontinence all my life. I'm 35
& married with 2 kids I use Depends Guard for men during the day.
Depends adult diapers or Tena overnight pads & pants system at night.



- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "stom28" <stom28@...> wrote:
>
> Hi my name is Sandy I'm around 40 years old and plan to stay 40ish
> forever. I've been bladder incontinent for around 20 years. I have
very
> little control of my bladder and out of the last 20 years at least 15
> I've  had to wear full briefs 24/7 I've recently started using cloth
> briefs and plastic pants with the help of my friends on the ISC board
> or incontinence support center. were I'm a very active member. I'm
> other wise a fully active person with no other disabilities other
then
> incontinence. JUST A NOTE: I REFUSE TO BE HELD BACK BY INCONTINENCE.
>   My husband is the one that found this group for me. He was cruising
> the groups the other night and found this one for me. it looked
rather
> well maintained so I thought I would give it a try. Funny my husbands
> the one that got me going on the ISC board as well. Anyway I plan to
> check in here day to day to see the happenings.....Keep smiling SANDY
>

#2020 From: "????" <disdiaperboy@...>
Date: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:09 pm
Subject: RE: Back to using diapers or overnight pads at night
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I agree none of us are doctors. There may be PAs, NPs, RNs, EMTs, ect in here but no doctors. The thing that makes us different and able to help each other is we all deal with the same problem at some level. Some people have enuresis, urge, stess, overflow urinary incontinence, others have fecal and urinary incontinence. Some of our problems have no defined pathology, others have CP, SB, MS. We can help each other, some by guidance in the right path, others need emotional support. I do the same thing here as I do in real life, I listen and put my 2 cents in when no one else says anything. The big difference is in real life I only will do it for people around my own age while here I do for people of nearly any age.
 
We are not all that different. We are all humans with an issue. The only difference I really see is how you manage your problem; some use protection (pads, adult disposable briefs, adult disposable underwear), other use catheters (external, foley, straight, indwelling), and other got surgery.
 
We can and do help each other in anyway we can. Yes, we need more then just each other (GPs, urologists/urogynocologists, neurologists, psychologists/psychiatrists). We can and do help each other.
 
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#2019 From: stephen laws <laws36@...>
Date: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:13 am
Subject: RE: Back to using diapers or overnight pads at night
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hi  if you have  to wear  just  at bed  time  i  wear  attend slip  and   cloth  pull  ups   and plastic  pants  that  way  no  wetbed  hope that helps  give  a  shout  if you like  to  chat   stphn


To: Incont@yahoogroups.com
From: troy20772@...
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:12:39 +0000
Subject: [Incont] Back to using diapers or overnight pads at night

Hi I'm back to use pads or adult diaper at night. I have an overactive
bladder. Have been to the urologist. Any suggestions would be helpful




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#2018 From: "Tony Di Antonio" <tinytony59@...>
Date: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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Hi Tiny Tony here.
I got a little concerned with cubittriangle1's ending comments to bigbabyin diapers when he suggested that he shouldin't bring his concerns to this group.
I thought we were suppose to be a support group?
Not a group who places judgment on members concerns and then threatens the individual that he'll be reported to the authorities, stating that a group such as our's is not a proper place to seek help/advice.
 
I offered bigbabyindiapers the same basic suggestions re: seeking help/advice from a urologist and physcologist.
Obviously, we are not doctors here, but we in fact are a support group, hence, if in any way we can help, we can and should.
 
If you read my original reply to bigbabyindiapers, you would note that I offered support and suggestions....Not judgements or threats.
Having said that, let's remember that we all have our own unique and bonified concerns re: our particular incontinence issues.
Support means just that! SUPPORT!!!
Ok I'll get off my soap box now lol.
Hope everyone has a great weekend!
Take care,
Tiny Tony  Smiley emoticon
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: [Incont] Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "bigbabyindiapers1952"
<bigbabyindiapers1952@...> wrote:
>
> I HAVE BEEN A BED WETTER SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD, IAM NOW AGE 55 AND
> STLL WET THE BED. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT , I HAD INCONTIENCE DUE TO
> THE WAY, I WAS TREATED AS A BOY. MY MOTHER KEPT ME IN DIAPERS AND
> RUBBER PANTS,I WAS TREATED LIKE A BABY TO THE AGE OF 25 YEARS OLD. A
> QUESTION ! WAS THIS THE REAL CAUSE OF MY INCONTINENCE???? CAN SOME
ONE
> GIVE SOME ADVICE ??
>
First you should not be asking here you should be asking your
urologist. If you dont have one, get one. You need to get some answers
from him/her as to why your wetting your bed/pants. If they canot find
a problem you need to see a physcologist and ask them if its a result
of your childhood.
Second you need to find an adult board to post your fanatasies you
should not be talking to young girls and boys about your wetting
problems.
Third if you continue to do so you will be turned into the autorties
as to your behavoir. It is not proper for an adult to have such
contact about your wettinjg problems.


#2017 From: "troy20772" <troy20772@...>
Date: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:12 pm
Subject: Back to using diapers or overnight pads at night
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Hi I'm back to use pads or adult diaper at night. I have an overactive
bladder. Have been to the urologist. Any suggestions would be helpful

#2016 From: "cubictriangle1" <cubictriangle1@...>
Date: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !
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--- In Incont@yahoogroups.com, "bigbabyindiapers1952"
<bigbabyindiapers1952@...> wrote:
>
> I HAVE BEEN A BED WETTER SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD, IAM NOW AGE 55 AND
> STLL WET THE BED. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT , I HAD INCONTIENCE DUE TO
> THE WAY, I WAS TREATED AS A BOY. MY MOTHER KEPT ME IN DIAPERS AND
> RUBBER PANTS,I WAS TREATED LIKE A BABY TO THE AGE OF 25 YEARS OLD. A
> QUESTION ! WAS THIS THE REAL CAUSE OF MY INCONTINENCE???? CAN SOME
ONE
> GIVE SOME ADVICE ??
>
First you should not be asking here you should be asking your
urologist. If you dont have one, get one. You need to get some answers
from him/her as to why your wetting your bed/pants. If they canot find
a problem you need to see a physcologist and ask them if its a result
of your childhood.
Second you need to find an adult board to post your fanatasies you
should not be talking to young girls and boys about your wetting
problems.
Third if you continue to do so you will be turned into the autorties
as to your behavoir. It is not proper for an adult to have such
contact about your wettinjg problems.

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