Ganchi Plastic Surgery

www.ganchi.com

 

Dear Amir Shoja,

 

I think I've provided you with enough information.  As an educated adult, you should be able to take it from there and do the rest of the research yourself.  You're making much too much work for me.

 

I get the feeling that you are having trouble understanding what I have written or maybe you simply enjoy arguing.  Your responses seem to have little relevance to what I wrote so I will summarize:

    www.ganchi.com 

 

1 - I agree that money used to publish the bulletin should be saved.  How much depends on how many members want to receive the publication vs read it online.  Personally, I would enjoy reading the bulletin online.  However, I can understand that some members may be more comfortable with a paper copy.

 

2 - IAMA, like any successful organization, should prioritize building a strong financial reserve over spending for any particular project.  We should be planning for the future, not just today.  Once a reserve has been established, then even more projects can be funded and more charitable work can be done.  It seems as soon as the idea of saving money comes up, everyone starts e-mailing about how to spend the money.  This isn't financially smart.

 

3 - I am in no way involved and never have been involved in running IAMA.  I am simply a member.  I have no role in deciding what is debated or not debated at any meeting.  I don't understand what you mean by "I am sure that no one is in favour of stifling debate through legalism."  But then again, I don't understand most of what you are writing.

 

Anyway, I will conclude my discussion with you and offer you a thought from JFK - Ask not what IAMA can do for you all the time... Ask what you can do for IAMA...

 

PG

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Parham A. Ganchi, PhD, MD

Ganchi Plastic Surgery

www.ganchi.com 

 

 

Amir Shoja <ahshoja@...> wrote:

Dear Dr. Ganchi Jr.

As you are so in tune with the law and have a thorough understanding of it,
would you be so kind as to email me the relevant and correct link in regards
to the investment banking by charitable foundations, you sent me the link in
regards to Jeopardizing IRS Exemption.

In your absolute knowledge of the law, would you be so kind as to inform me
on whether the mentioning of your website www.ganchi.com in your mass email
to all of us would be considered free publicity through IAMA for a
commercial activity and in contradiction with section 501(c)(3) charitable
organization information you provided
(http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123299,00.html)?

Beside that point, what is at stake is the role and the content of our
organization. As 78% of those who voted pointed out, there is a strong
desire to not waste money on paper. I am sure that you have the same
tendencies towards democracy as Dr. Ganchi Sr. and hope you will at the
very least accept a debate in this regard during our coming IAMA meeting. I
am sure that no one is in favour of stifling debate through legalism.

Your point on spell checker is well taken, I will email Yahoo and ask them
to install a multi-langual Dutch, French, English and Persian spellchecker
in order not to overburden your eyes with my typos.


Sincerely yours, Amir Shoja.

--- Ganchi wrote:

> Dear Amir Shoja,
>
> There is no need for creativity in knowing the law. Investing money to
> build the reserves of IAMA is not illegal. Again, the saving or investing
> of money is not prohibited for non-profit organizations. How that money
> is spent is what is scrutinized by the IRS. As long as the money is spent
> in the pursuit of IAMA's stated charitable goals, there is no conflict
> with its non-profit status.
>
> As you wrote in your e-mail, taking money from the members and
> transferring it to the happy few is prohibited. However, it's not clear
> to me where you dreamt up this idea. Perhaps you are privy to information
> that I am not. As far as I know, even those who work hard to run IAMA are
> not compensated by IAMA for their time, effort and even money that they
> spend.
>
> As you probably know, IAMA is a section 501(c)(3) charitable
> organization. There is an IRS website that explains this in great detail.
> If you take the time to review it, you will find that there is no need
> for creativity as it is all spelled out rather clearly. You can find the
> information at:
> http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123299,00.html
>
> Here are some more references for you:
>
> http://aeoe.org/board/nonprofit_guidelines/index.html
>
>
>
http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/ObjectID/FB682F05-ADA1-4B8A-ACC2830A855686DB/catID/CE94A6B3-EFB6-4036-8498D5414328FD73/111/262/ART/
>
>
>
http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/objectId/74A82C1D-C33C-4F12-B20CCD3B6805A03F/111/262/ART/
>
> I hope these references help clarify this for you. As for your style
> and typos, I suggest using a spellchecker. Take care.
>
> PG
> ---
> Parham A. Ganchi, PhD, MD
> Ganchi Plastic Surgery
> www.ganchi.com
>
>
>
>
> Amir Shoja wrote:
> Dear Parham Ganchi,
>
> It is unfortunate that your creative imagination did not manage to make a
> distinction between "not necessarity legal" as opposed to illegal.
>
> I hope your statement that "your statement is absolutely legal" is not too
> absolutist. You are free to correct me but as I understand, there is a
> limit
> to the proportion or the maximum amount of the income that our
> non-for-profit organization is allowed to use in investmentbanking as
> opposed to using it for the real purposes of the organization.
>
> A year ago, I had the same discussion with Mr. Ganchi Sr. in New York and
> alas at that time the decision was made against what you so rightly and so
> passionately advocating today.
> I hope, during our coming IAMA meeting, you stand by your written words
> press for this reform together with the majority of the members who took
> the
> time and showed the effort to cast their vote in this matter (78% for).
>
> I also would like to thank you for the correction of my spelling errors. I
> hope Dr. Ganchi Jr. is our valuable ally for reform. I appreciate any
> feedback regarding my style and typos and am open to your criticism
> regarding the content.
>
> Yours sincerely, Amir Shoja.
>
> --- Ganchi
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Amir Shoja,
> >
> > It's unfortunate that you felt the need to reply to my statement without
> > actually reading it carefully or taking the time to research your
> points.
> >
> > I just wanted to clarify my points and fill in some facts.
> >
> > First, my suggestion is absolutely legal or I wouldn't have made it.
> > Any organization (non-profits included) can and should have a strong
> > reserve fund. This is critical to the well-being of any organization.
> > Saving money, investing it and being fiscally responsible does not
> change
> > the non-profit status of IAMA. Rather, it makes it stronger and better
> > able to serve its entire membership, not "the happy few." This reserve
> > could then fund all those areas that IAMA is already funding and more,
> > including research, education, and cultural exchange. Non-profit status
> > has nothing to do with making a profit. It is based on the "primary
> > intentions" of the organization. You doubt the legality and intentions
> of
> > my suggestion yet you go on to suggest that IAMA save "1/3 for future
> > investment." This is no different than my suggestion and would therefore
> > be no more "legal" or in keeping with IAMA's goals.
> >
> > You state that IAMA "is not ment [sic] as a vehicle for investment
> > banking nor transfer [sic] funds from the members to the happy few" I
> > take offense at this comment and don't see any reference to this in my
> > e-mail or in the actions of IAMA. I'm not sure who the "happy few" would
> > be in your creative imagination.
> >
> > One of IAMA's goals is to help the "few" using the power of the many
> > (its membership). However, the "few" are those who are in need, not the
> > "happy few" you write about. If anything, IAMA has always tried to help
> > those with the most need. Those who are running IAMA and spending their
> > valuable time, money and energy get nothing financial in return. They
> are
> > driven by the satisfaction and pride of a strong IAMA community and
> > knowing they are helping the few. I thought you knew this.
> >
> > Finally, it is clear that IAMA has a diverse membership. As such, the
> > need for a paper vs electronic bulletin should be left to the
> membership.
> > This is a simple question that could be placed on the yearly membership
> > paperwork. Anyone who wants the paper copy would note this and get a
> copy
> > in the mail. Everyone else would have access to the bulletin on the IAMA
> > website.
> >
> > Hopefully, all of us are striving to make IAMA a stronger organization.
> > This can not happen without fiscal strength. While you may disagree with
> > my suggestions, I hope that in the future, you will take the time to
> read
> > them fully before responding and do so in a constructive and factual
> way.
> > Cynicism, exaggeration, and unsubstantiated statements help no one and
> are
> > counterproductive.
> >
> > PG
> > ---
> > Parham A. Ganchi, PhD, MD
> > Ganchi Plastic Surgery
> > www.ganchi.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Amir Shoja wrote:
> > Dear Dr. Ganchi Jr,
> >
> > I think your plan is excellent but not necessarily legal. IAMA is, as
> far
> > as
> > I understand, a non-for-profit organization and it is not ment as a
> > vehicle
> > for investment banking nor transfer funds from the members to the happy
> > few.
> > It is rather the opposite.
> >
> > However, I agree with you that one should save some of the cost of the
> > publication and look for a middle way but having 1/3 of the money used
> for
> > future investment, 1/3 for Research Grants ( research grants are not
> > student
> > loans) and 1/3 for printing of the newsletter to allow some of our
> members
> > to enjoy a traditional approach rather the more avant-garde electronics
> > suitable for young and professional people like yourself and me.
> >
> > Yours sincerely, Amir Shoja.
> >
> > --- Ganchi
> > wrote:
> >
> > > With today's technology, it makes a lot of sense to "print" the
> > newsletter
> > > online and save the cost of publication. However, rather than spend
> the
> > > savings right away (on Pars Medline, student loans, etc..), it would
> > make
> > > more sense to have a long term vision and to build IAMA's financial
> > > security. Any strong organization has a strong financial base which
> can
> > > then support projects and its members. The money should be
> > saved/invested
> > > and should be part of an ongoing saving/investing plan. Once it has
> > > grown, it will be a source of income for IAMA which can then be used
> to
> > > fund various projects while keeping IAMA financially viable. Perhaps
> > > there are some IAMA members who are experienced in financial
> management
> > > who could help develop a long term plan...
> > >
> > > PG
> > > ---
> > > Parham A. Ganchi, PhD, MD
> > > Ganchi Plastic Surgery
> > > www.ganchi.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Omid wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > > I would ask instead of payment for this newsletter please pay it for
> > > ParsMedline. I was trying here and everywhere to gather some money for
>
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