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Re: [HormonalFitness] Re: Supplements on the NHE-diet

Awesome.
 
Well, I was going to say that for the protein shake I use 100% Whey protein powder - flavored (2-5 grams of carbs, depending on the flavor; 0 grams of fat; 21 grams of protein) and a tablespoon of all natural peanut putter (2 grams of carbs, 8 grams of fat, 6 grams of protein) for a grand total of 27grams of protein, 8 grams of fat, and 4-7 grams of carbs.  I tried the olive oil once, but found that even a little bit made completely overpowered the protein drink I was using with olive oil flavor, so I decided to forego that.  I have this twice a day, once each after my morning (run) and afternoon (weights) workout.
 
I applied NHE for several months last year and lost about 40lbs (in addition to running in the morning and lifting weights in the afternoon 5x a week, and a bike ride on Saturdays).  Unfortunately, I enlisted in the Navy (I'm a reservist) and the weight came back due to a) poor food quality, but mostly b) poor food choices on my part (dessert after every meal is a bad idea, but it sure kept my morale up!)  Anyway, I'm back on the NHE diet and am currently on the induction phase.  I am really looking forward to shedding this excess fat/weight that I no longer need (my college football days are over).
 
And I must say, I know Rob is completely against "witch's brew", but I found through trial and error that I don't get the full benefits of the NHE plan unless I do 2-3 weeks of the induction phase.  I find that in only 1 week I don't sufficiently go into fat burning mode.  Any thoughts?

 
On 5/8/08, Simon Dankel <simon.dankel@...> wrote:

Certainly.



On 5/8/08, DaWrestla <dawrestla@...> wrote:

Hey guys, this is just a test.  Can you all see it?



On 5/8/08, Joel Rosart <joel.rosart@...> wrote:

This is another multivitamin with good amounts of Vitamins A, B, E and magnesium, zinc, selenium and copper. Still needs more vitamin C though.
 


 
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:25 AM, play.rm <rockdude@...> wrote:

To bad he didn't finish his AM/PM-formula. I would have bought it
right away.

Just googled Solaray Spektro and it seems like a nice supplement. Do
you really need to supplement extra vitamin C even though your taking
Solaray Spektro and eating according to NHE-principles? Do you use it
every day or just now and then?

I haven't bought any multivitamins yet, but I must say that I'm
tempted to try Solaray Spektro (pretty expensive though..but you get
what you pay for I guess). Thanks for the info.
The only thing I'm take now is my homemade performancedrink containing
proteinpowder and oliveoil (Robs advice).

--- In HormonalFitness@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Dankel"


<simon.dankel@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> I take a multivitamin and some vitamin C. Rob was in the process of
> developing a new supplement, "AM/PM Formula", more potent than many
> multivitamin/mineral supplements out there. We haven't heard from
Rob since.
> But I think it's important you find a multivitamin/mineral with
sufficient
> dosages and high bioavailability. My supplement (Solaray Spektro) is
made
> from extraction of natural sources and is supposed to have high
> bioavailability. It contains 4mg zink and 75mg magnesium, which are
rather
> low dosages. The optimal daily dosage is probably around 30mg zink
and 300mg
> magnesium, but this would include what you get from food. The
optimal dosage
> of vitamin C is probably about 200-1000g 1-3 times a day. More than
1000g is
> not necessary as uptake of whatever you take above 1000mg is
limited. Eat
> sitrus fruits, red peppers etc. for vitamin C.
>
> I also think that individuals have different requirements, for example
> dependent on previous eating habits. The body's status of many
vitamins and
> minerals cannot be precisely determined (yet). As far as minerals,
there is
> hair mineral analysis, which is supposed to reflect mineral balance
in the
> body. I haven't personally researched this, and I don't Rob's view
on this.
> Anyway, it might not always be such a good idea to take high dosages of
> individual minerals - they function together and are best taken
together in
> a natural balance.
>
> Eat (brazil) nuts and seafood for selenium and magnesium, iodine,
chromium
> and copper. Organ meats are also good sources. Eat yoghurt, cottage
cheese
> and sardines for calcium. As far as vitamins, make sure you get
enough (but
> not too much) sun exposure to optimize your vitamin D status. Eat liver
> (pate?) and dark greens for vitamin K and A. Nuts and dark greens for
> vitamin E. It might be a good idea to take a spoon (5mg) of Carson's cod
> liver oil every day, for vitamin A, E, D and DHA/EPA. Beef etc. for B
> vitamins. For flavonoids and various antioxidants eat all of the
above plus
> use a high quality extra virgin olive oil with your salads (I love those
> that haven't been filtered (the oil is unclear/foggy), fantastic fruity
> taste!). Eat slightly heated tomato for lycopene and other
antioxidants -
> heating generally makes antioxidants more bioavailable (but beware that
> excessive heating reduces vitamin content). Another tip: use lots of
herbs
> and spices when cooking, to protect fats from oxidation, and spices
are also
> good sources of many minerals and antioxidants. You might also want to
> consider Udo's Choice oil blend, though it's somewhat expensive. A
cheaper
> alternative is to use flax oil on your salads for alpha-linolenic acid
> (plant-source omega-3).
>
> Anyone else with more micronutrition tips?
>
> Good luck!
>
> Simon
>
>
 
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:47 PM, play.rm <rockdude@...> wrote:
>
> > Do any of you guys use supplements while on the NHE-eating plan?
> >
> > Vitamins or maybe electrolyte supplements? Any recommendations?
> > Just interested in your thoughts about it. Or if Rob has commented on
> > the topic before.
> >
> > On monday I will start my macronutrient cycling after 7 days doing my
> > metabolic shift.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
>

 







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Do any of you guys use supplements while on the NHE-eating plan? Vitamins or maybe electrolyte supplements? Any recommendations? Just interested in your...
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Hi Martin, I take a multivitamin and some vitamin C. Rob was in the process of developing a new supplement, "AM/PM Formula", more potent than many ...
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Btw, my multisupplement doesn't contain iron - men should generally not supplement iron (you might want to consider giving blood instead, as iron can...
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Funny thing about iron, I've read the Eades recommendation not to take an iron supplement, but have done it anyway since most of the multis have it in there....
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I just bought Solaray Spektro as multivitamin and C-500 Complex as c-vitamin supplement. Anyone that have any experience of C-500 Complex? Rob mentioned it in...
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To bad he didn't finish his AM/PM-formula. I would have bought it right away. Just googled Solaray Spektro and it seems like a nice supplement. Do you really...
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This is another multivitamin with good amounts of Vitamins A, B, E and magnesium, zinc, selenium and copper. Still needs more vitamin C though. ...
Joel Rosart
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Hey guys, this is just a test. Can you all see it?...
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Certainly....
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Awesome. Well, I was going to say that for the protein shake I use 100% Whey protein powder - flavored (2-5 grams of carbs, depending on the flavor; 0 grams of...
DaWrestla
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DaWrestla, Sounds like a good protein shake. Do you follow the HIE (Hormonally Intelligent Exercise) program? Depending on your objectives and work-out...
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Simon, So far my fave flavor is Banana Creme. Add the Peanut Butter to that and it's tempting to have more than just one serving! For awhile I was doing ...
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Hi again, The floor of carbohydrate intake is as low as possible during the downcycle. Rob writes in HNE that bodybuilders, who often are more dedicated to ...
Simon Dankel
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Dawrestla, In the Ask Rob section he answers a similar question: "The lower limit of carbs per downcycle day on the general eating plan is 30. Will eating less...
Martin
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Thanks, Martin. Do you have a link? I haven't been able to find it on the ask rob section....
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Yes, here's the link: http://hormonalfitness.com/askrob/soy-and-cultured-milk-products.htm Scroll down a bit and you'll find it. /Martin ... section. ... MREs ...
Martin
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Martin, Couldn't find the link to that impressive rose guy you mentioned. Could you give it again? Simon...
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Actually it was Alex who found it, but here it is :) http://www.rosstraining.com/ /Martin ... Could you ... <HormonalFitness%40yahoogroups.com>, ... eating...
Martin
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