I think Rob's article on ketone sticks has been removed from Ask Rob. The Ask Rob section was trimmed when the new Hormonal Fitness site was introduced. My good neuronal health (partly thanks to my brain's DHA/EPA abundance) has allowed me to recall that Rob's point was that

 

1) just because the ketone stick doesn't indicates urinary ketones doesn't mean you're not burning fat at an appreciable rate.

2) just because the ketone stick indicates urinary ketones doesn't mean your burning fat at an appreciable rate.

 

I'm less sure of the latter point, and I have yet to research the details of fat oxidation physiology, but as others have pointed out, the carb-loads and relatively liberal carb limits make ketone measurements irrelevant and misleading. (But Rob did admit that ketone sticks are a peculiar invention, given the widespread use and the strange human behaviour their use entails.)

 

Simon

 

On 10/19/06, Joel Rosart <joel.rosart@...> wrote:

Just to add to that, on the general eating plan 30 grams is a minimum so that glycogen levels don't dip too low. This could effect your ability to do hormonally optimal exercise.

On the bodybuilding plan you're getting many more carbs during the upcycle so its not an issue.

Regards,

Joel

On 10/19/06, jrpw10 <jrpw10@...> wrote:

Steve,

Staying clear of ketone monitoring seems to be in line with NHE.
It's been a bit busy on my end so I haven't located that article yet.
I'll be honing in on it soon and will post it.

In regard to this question. . .

P.S. An off-topic question, if you don't mind. On the regular NHE
plan, after the U-turn, the carb limit is 30-60 grams of carbs per
day. I'm not sure if Rob means "stay under 30-60 grams of carbs per
day" or if he means "have AT LEAST 30 grams of carbs and NO MORE
than
60 grams per day". Are you clear on this issue?

*****

When following the regular plan, I keep it between 30 and 60 grams.
However, on some days it may dip below. It doesn't seem to make
much of a difference. In general I keep it more toward 30 and am
getting the results I want. There is some flexibility built into all
this. I just try to stay tuned into how my body is responding and
experiment a little within the limits of the NHE plan. Increasing
and decreasing mainly fats and proteins and keeping the carbs
definitely under 60.

Jim