Thanks Joel, I wouldn't imagine that any dietary manipulation would make GH go unreasonably hog wild. I knew a few people who were using exogenous GH, the results were clear in the short term, but it sure seemed to me that a decent while after they stopped using it, they appeared to get older in a flash. Isn't it true that exogenous manipulation of a hormone like GH for a long enough time renders the body at least temporarily incapable of creating the hormone on its own? Talk about selling your soul to the devil .. .
off topic, i know, sorry about that :)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [HormonalFitness] Re: Does NHE promote diabetes?
Jason,
I agree NHE should prevent diabetes. I believe concern arose from the fact that:
a) NHE strives to heighten GH production
b) Excess GH production can cause diabetes
Sounds counter-intuitive, but if ANY hormone is raised in excess it can cause massive problems.
The fact is that even among those people that do inject HGH (which has a much more profound effect than NHE does), its still a RARE condition. If that doesn't allay your fears I'm not sure what will!
Cheers,
Joel
On 8/31/06, Jason <jyana@entasia.com> wrote:
Doesn't NHE prevent diabetes?
I kind of thought that since NHE keeps insulin levels low most of
the time, that it would be the opposite. Preventing type II
diabetes - insulin insensitivity, etc. I mean people who are
constantly eating carbs, sugar etc. all the time are the people that
develop type II diabetes right? Isn't that why they put type II
diabetics on a low fat, low carb diet?
--- In HormonalFitness@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Rosart"
<joel.rosart@...> wrote:
>
> Welcome to the board!
>
> First off, you should understand that growth hormone is a problem
only when
> its too low or too high in an individual. There's some really good
> information here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone
>
> Excess GH can only be caused by either a pituitary tumour (which
leads to
> gigantism) or by exogenous injections (commonly used by athletes
and in
> anti-aging treatments). In these cases, a rare form of type II
diabetes can
> develop.
>
> Barring these factors, GH can vary significantly in an individual,
from what
> would be considered high-normal to low-normal. Aging and certain
lifestyle
> factors lower GH. This is a fact. It is one of the most significant
> correlations with aging that we have. Anyone that tells you low GH
is a good
> thing is off their rocker (for lack of a better term =) NHE's goal
is to
> reverse this trend and bring GH to the high-normal range.
>
> Rest assured that the only sure fire way to develop type-II
diabetes is too
> become fat or to consume a lot of fructose (as in high-fructose
corn syrup).
> Moderately improving GH status using NHE will only serve to
improve insulin
> sensitivity.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On 8/31/06, fueled_on_ascorbate <fueled_on_ascorbate@...> wrote:
> >
> > Growth Hormone seems to promote diabetes in two ways:
> > 1) by GH's ability to increase free fatty acid concentration in
the blood
> > following lipolysis
> > (acts directly on beta cells in pancreas?)
> > 2) by a sort of negative feedback loop which downregulates
insulin
> > receptors (because GH
> > utilizes parts of the insulin signalling pathway)
> >
> > Please bring relief to my concerns. Does NHE promote diabetes?
> >
> >
> >
>
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