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FW: [HIT Digest] Re: Results of my new workout correction   Message List  
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FW: [HIT Digest] Re: Results of my new workout correction

Cheers Miguel.
I have just started a more volume based workout that a friend has had
great results from. I am doing 4 sets sometimes 3 per exercise .Two or
3 exercises a body part 3 times a week [3 way split] but trying to
resist the temptation of going to failure. I have not been on a
program that doesn't include reps to failure before. I am hoping the
change in pace and extra sets work.
The increased number of sets has resulted in baking off the intensity
a while as you suggested.
Jeremy

>
> Jeremy,
>
> That sucks that you didn't gain any size from all that work.
Anyway, you did gain a lot of strength, and that will eventually lead
you to mass gains if you consolidate your strength increases and don't
let them disappear. Maybe you could now drop back into a less
demanding maintenance routine with the heavier weights you can now
move, and stay with that routine for awhile just maintaining. I've
always felt that real strength gains mean that not only can you move
heavier weights now, but you can handle them with the same level of
effort it took to handle the lighter weights you were using before,
with the same quality of execution.
>
> That kind of gains will stay with you, as opposed to going from 110
kilos with good form and focus to 140 kilos with a shortened ROM,
choppy form, fewer reps, and no quad focus. Nope -- that 140 kilos
should feel just as manageable as did the 110 kilos before. If it
doesn't you didn't get stronger, you're just straining more.
>
> I think you need to keep eating well, rest, and back off on the
training for a little while, either in intensity or training
frequency, maybe even lighten the loads or do fewer sets temporarily
while your body catches up. You're burned out.
>
> Miguel
>
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> From: Miguel Angel Perez [mailto:metalhead2_mx@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:58 AM
> To: Perez, Miguel
> Subject: Rv: [HIT Digest] Re: Results of my new workout correction
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> --- hmmmhmmhm <hmmmhmmhm@... escribió:
>
> Para: Hitdigest@yahoogroups.com
> De: "hmmmhmmhm" <hmmmhmmhm@...
> Fecha: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:32:59 -0000
> Asunto: [HIT Digest] Re: Results of my new workout
> correction
>
> I read this and realized it comes across as if I
> have put on muscle
> when I was trying to say I haven't, apart from
> perhaps a bit on my
> back. I put on no weight apart from when like I said
> I ate more nuts
> etc and that was fat.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
> Well thought Id mention how I got on with my new
> workout which was
> Casler style [three work sets 20r/10r/5r]
>
> I started properly early November and on nearly
> every workout since
> [3 times a week] I have gotten stronger on at
> least one set often
> every set of a exercise and sometimes all
> exercises.
> As I expected I was getting a rep or two more
> usually. I do recall
> occasionally adding weight and reps.
> I added 30 kilos to my 5 rep squat set it has to
> be noted though that
> half way through the cycle I went up a pin. On the
> big exercises I
> added about 10 or twelve kilos per set.
> I really enjoyed the extra time in the gym and
> working in different
> rep ranges.
>
> The strange thing is have put on much muscle but I
> do feel my back has
> grown [thickened] and has a bit more detail, but
> my arms and legs are
> the same as before. I have had problems with
> injury so I haven't
> trained my triceps throughout and when I have its
> been a low ROM. I
> also was only able to train my chest and
> shoulders for a few months
> due to injury. But the leg and back work have been
> used constantly. I
> did have a few weeks off training altogether.
>
>
> I was taking in more protein than I normally would
> do.
> I haven't been able to get my hands on protein for
> a few weeks so I
> have tended to eat more nuts etc. This has led to
> a weight increase
> but it seems to be fat.
>
> Thinking about it my back had the most constant
> volume and seems to
> have improved which is interesting.
>
> I am still getting a rep here and there more on
> the workout but feel
> its starting to run its course as I will improve
> on one set then the
> next one I will lose a few reps.
>
> I would have thought strength increases without
> resulting growth can
> happen to a point and its individual but I must
> have had enough
> calories if I put on some fat. And surely strength
> increases require a
> good amount of calories to be consumed?
>
> Any thoughts welcome
> Jeremy
>





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Jeremy, That sucks that you didn't gain any size from all that work. Anyway, you did gain a lot of strength, and that will eventually lead you to mass gains...
Perez, Miguel
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May 27, 2007
4:21 am

Cheers Miguel. I have just started a more volume based workout that a friend has had great results from. I am doing 4 sets sometimes 3 per exercise .Two or 3...
hmmmhmmhm
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Jun 5, 2007
11:04 am

Jeremy, Actually I was reading a Chad Waterbury article today (I had a printout with me on the plane; I'm up in Salt Lake City right now) and the program that...
Miguel Angel Perez
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Jun 17, 2007
3:52 am

Miguel, Well done on making those serious! lifts. Hope the higher frequency works well. Jeremy...
hmmmhmmhm
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Jul 22, 2007
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Thanks! Wow, I just read that strongman Jesse Marunde died. He was just 27. ... __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para...
Miguel Angel Perez
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Jul 29, 2007
2:32 am

Yeah very sad he was very good and seemed like a real nice guy. He had pace with raw power. In the interviews Ive seen he seemed like he had a really positive...
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Aug 21, 2007
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Update: The Waterbury-style scheme did not work at all for me. No strength, no growth, no fat loss or anything. Well, I didn't fail -- I just found one more...
Miguel Angel Perez
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Sep 4, 2007
9:42 am

Hi Miguel shame Waterbury didn't produce gains for you. How long did you stay with the workout? Have you thought about sticking with the Waterbury but going...
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Sep 18, 2007
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Jeremy, I didn't stay with the program for more than six weeks, because I was losing strength. I was planning on two months minimum, but I doubt that two more...
Perez, Miguel
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