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FW: [HIT Digest] Re: Results of my new workout correction   Message List  
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Jeremy,

That sucks that you didn't gain any size from all that work. Anyway, you did
gain a lot of strength, and that will eventually lead you to mass gains if you
consolidate your strength increases and don't let them disappear. Maybe you
could now drop back into a less demanding maintenance routine with the heavier
weights you can now move, and stay with that routine for awhile just
maintaining. I've always felt that real strength gains mean that not only can
you move heavier weights now, but you can handle them with the same level of
effort it took to handle the lighter weights you were using before, with the
same quality of execution.

That kind of gains will stay with you, as opposed to going from 110 kilos with
good form and focus to 140 kilos with a shortened ROM, choppy form, fewer reps,
and no quad focus. Nope -- that 140 kilos should feel just as manageable as
did the 110 kilos before. If it doesn't you didn't get stronger, you're just
straining more.

I think you need to keep eating well, rest, and back off on the training for a
little while, either in intensity or training frequency, maybe even lighten the
loads or do fewer sets temporarily while your body catches up. You're burned
out.

Miguel





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From: Miguel Angel Perez [mailto:metalhead2_mx@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:58 AM
To: Perez, Miguel
Subject: Rv: [HIT Digest] Re: Results of my new workout correction



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De: "hmmmhmmhm" <hmmmhmmhm@...
Fecha: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:32:59 -0000
Asunto: [HIT Digest] Re: Results of my new workout
correction

I read this and realized it comes across as if I
have put on muscle
when I was trying to say I haven't, apart from
perhaps a bit on my
back. I put on no weight apart from when like I said
I ate more nuts
etc and that was fat.

Jeremy




Well thought Id mention how I got on with my new
workout which was
Casler style [three work sets 20r/10r/5r]

I started properly early November and on nearly
every workout since
[3 times a week] I have gotten stronger on at
least one set often
every set of a exercise and sometimes all
exercises.
As I expected I was getting a rep or two more
usually. I do recall
occasionally adding weight and reps.
I added 30 kilos to my 5 rep squat set it has to
be noted though that
half way through the cycle I went up a pin. On the
big exercises I
added about 10 or twelve kilos per set.
I really enjoyed the extra time in the gym and
working in different
rep ranges.

The strange thing is have put on much muscle but I
do feel my back has
grown [thickened] and has a bit more detail, but
my arms and legs are
the same as before. I have had problems with
injury so I haven't
trained my triceps throughout and when I have its
been a low ROM. I
also was only able to train my chest and
shoulders for a few months
due to injury. But the leg and back work have been
used constantly. I
did have a few weeks off training altogether.


I was taking in more protein than I normally would
do.
I haven't been able to get my hands on protein for
a few weeks so I
have tended to eat more nuts etc. This has led to
a weight increase
but it seems to be fat.

Thinking about it my back had the most constant
volume and seems to
have improved which is interesting.

I am still getting a rep here and there more on
the workout but feel
its starting to run its course as I will improve
on one set then the
next one I will lose a few reps.

I would have thought strength increases without
resulting growth can
happen to a point and its individual but I must
have had enough
calories if I put on some fat. And surely strength
increases require a
good amount of calories to be consumed?

Any thoughts welcome
Jeremy



Wed May 23, 2007 4:34 pm

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Jeremy, That sucks that you didn't gain any size from all that work. Anyway, you did gain a lot of strength, and that will eventually lead you to mass gains...
Perez, Miguel
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May 27, 2007
4:21 am

Cheers Miguel. I have just started a more volume based workout that a friend has had great results from. I am doing 4 sets sometimes 3 per exercise .Two or 3...
hmmmhmmhm
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Jun 5, 2007
11:04 am

Jeremy, Actually I was reading a Chad Waterbury article today (I had a printout with me on the plane; I'm up in Salt Lake City right now) and the program that...
Miguel Angel Perez
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Jun 17, 2007
3:52 am

Miguel, Well done on making those serious! lifts. Hope the higher frequency works well. Jeremy...
hmmmhmmhm
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Jul 22, 2007
3:24 am

Thanks! Wow, I just read that strongman Jesse Marunde died. He was just 27. ... __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para...
Miguel Angel Perez
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Jul 29, 2007
2:32 am

Yeah very sad he was very good and seemed like a real nice guy. He had pace with raw power. In the interviews Ive seen he seemed like he had a really positive...
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Aug 21, 2007
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Update: The Waterbury-style scheme did not work at all for me. No strength, no growth, no fat loss or anything. Well, I didn't fail -- I just found one more...
Miguel Angel Perez
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Sep 4, 2007
9:42 am

Hi Miguel shame Waterbury didn't produce gains for you. How long did you stay with the workout? Have you thought about sticking with the Waterbury but going...
hmmmhmmhm
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Sep 18, 2007
12:10 pm

Jeremy, I didn't stay with the program for more than six weeks, because I was losing strength. I was planning on two months minimum, but I doubt that two more...
Perez, Miguel
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