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> From: Bob Coppola <coppolra23@...>
>
> Milo and James,
> First of all, if you want to comment on my arguments,
> then you should address me.

While I cannot speak for Milo, note that my lengthy response regarding logic
and the scientific method were in response to someone else, not you.

> the largest and most powerful muscle fibers...to gain
> hypertrophy (look it up if you don't nkow what
> hypertrophy is).....(Type IIb fibers)... then you need
> to train to all out failure to recruit those fibers.

There is no evidence that training to failure is necessary to recruit Type
IIb fibers. Actually, most evidence indicates that motor unit recruitment
is maximal at around 80% 1 RM (even less depending upon the muscle group),
and increases in force production beyond that point are due to changes in
the firing rate of motor neurons.

> fine. HIT isn't for everyone. James needs to realize
> that it does work for many people

I never said that it didn't.

>and that just
> because it didn't work for him

I never said that it didn't work for me. I stated that it got me from about
130 to about 165 but never beyond that.

James Krieger
Graduate Assistant, Nutrition
University of Florida
Webmaster, WSU Strength and Conditioning
http://www.wsu.edu/~strength
Science Editor, Pure Power Magazine
http://www.purepowermag.com






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... Thank you for the compliment. ... My training has varied some since then. I've done some low-volume, high frequency training as well. Right now, I'm on a...
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NOT train to failure because you don't want to work too hard? It's been my experience that, yes, most people train too MUCH or too FREQUENTLY, but never too...
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I hit failure occasionally, but I don't shoot for it ... The whole premise behind HIT is to train to failure. That's one of the characteristics that separates...
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Dear Dr. Bob, I thought the main premise of HIT was to train intensely (and briefly/infrequently), though training to (positive) failure was the best "guide"...
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David, I was a college football player and ALWAYS had a spotter, if you will, or a trainer to take me through my workouts. Everything was done to failure,...
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... For the science part, you can perhaps search PubMed from the US National Library of Medicine at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ and pull study ...
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James, you're wasting your time and efforts on this. Any person who has even the slightest understanding of the scientific process wouldn't be writing such...
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Milo and James, First of all, if you want to comment on my arguments, then you should address me. Secondly, I do have the "slightest understanding" of the...
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... My understanding was that at somewhere around 80% you recruited all the fibers, and higher intensities were achieved through rate coding (that is, sending...
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Seth, ... Somewhere around 80% of what? It has been stated in the literature that, for example (just an example), if you were to perform a 12 rep set where 12...
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Bob, please provide one study that shows that training to failure is a requirement for type II fibers to grow. Also note that "failure," as it's used in...
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Milo, Did you mean 'momentary' instead of 'voluntary' in your post? I couldn't imagine that intensity could be defined as reaching voluntary muscular failure....
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... While I cannot speak for Milo, note that my lengthy response regarding logic and the scientific method were in response to someone else, not you. ... There...
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... Stated in the literature? What scientific literature is this stated in? ... This is a variation of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. In this case, it would...
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