I hear you, I wouldn't be able to afford it either.  I did go get all
the tests done once, but my insurance denied it.  That was probably a
blessing in desguise.  After it was denied, I came to the conclusion
that it was probably not the right move for me anyway.  I can't say
that I have ever been "thin", but I was much thinner than I am now.  I
have always struggled with my weight.  If I could correct it once and
for all, it would be a gift from God!

--- In Hcg_support@yahoogroups.com, "nightowl0001" <dallayce@...> wrote:
>
> I know exactly what you're talking about.
> I had begun to believe I would never be
> slim again.
>
> I had thought of surgery, but I would never
> be able to afford it.
>
> I was thinking the same thing: Why hadn't I
> heard about this before?! It's been around all
> these years. I could have done it back then
> and never have gotten this heavy now.
>
> I'm glad that I found it! I'm looking
> forward to being slim again.
>

I know exactly what you're talking about.
I had begun to believe I would never be
slim again.

I had thought of surgery, but I would never
be able to afford it.

I was thinking the same thing: Why hadn't I
heard about this before?! It's been around all
these years. I could have done it back then
and never have gotten this heavy now.

I'm glad that I found it! I'm looking
forward to being slim again.

Hello everyone,

I am not posting much at the moment because I haven't gotten started,
yet.  Hopefully, I'll start next week.  I can't wait to get on with
this journey.  It will be a long one for me because I have a LOT of
weight to lose.  I have fought this problem my whole life and am
praying that this is the answer.  I have tried so many things in my
life, only to put on more and more weight after each loss.  I had
pretty much given up on losing the weight.  I had almost come to
believe that surgery may be the only answer.  Although, I always felt
that that was not the right move for me.  The risks were just to great.
It is so motivating to see the results that everyone is having so far.
It is amazing.  I only wish I had known of this 20 years ago, before my
weight became so out of control.
Anyway, sorry for the long post.  I look forward to getting to know you
all and sharing our experiences.

--- In Hcg_support@yahoogroups.com, "nightowl0001" <dallayce@...> wrote:
>
> Hi edwards112! So nice to see you here!
> I've been reading your posts about your
> weight loss. Wow!
>
> Hi Sondra! I'm so glad you joined us.
>
> Myhealthmatters to me, your weight loss is
> amazing as well!
>
> And for everyone else, welcome! Feel free to
> discuss whatever you like. Ask questions and
> share stories, share photos.
>
> I can't wait to join all you guys on the
> program. I'm so looking forward to it!

>

----- Original Message -----

From: angelalenko

To: Hcg_support@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:24 AM

Subject: [Hcg_support] buying hcg

hello everyone! i want to buy the hcg for my husband. he is obese and
wants to be on the protocol. he is not computer literate, so i'm doing
the leg work. can anyone tell me where they have bought hcg powder??
i found native healing ways in tn, but they preload. they will not send
powder and as we know the powder is the protocol. any help would be
great. thanks so much

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hello everyone! i want to buy the hcg for my husband. he is obese and
wants to be on the protocol. he is not computer literate, so i'm doing
the leg work. can anyone tell me where they have bought hcg powder??
i found native healing ways in tn, but they preload. they will not send
powder and as we know the powder is the protocol. any help would be
great. thanks so much

It just occurred to me that the files may not open
unless you have Microsoft Word.

I've never used it before---that is until now---so
I'm not overly familiar with it. I don't know if it
will allow the files to be opened on anything else.

I guess most people are familiar with Microsoft Word,
and use it on a regular basis. So it shouldn't be a
problem.

Okay, I decided to put an "old" photo of myself
into the ablum. That way you could see what
an oddball Nightowl looks like---and put a face
to the name.

YES it is an older photo of me, back when I was
slimmer and younger. Back then I wasn't the
overly self-conscious person, that I later became.

It's been so many years since I have let anyone
take my picture---1991 I think it was.

This was taken at a photo shoot in Stanley Park
Vancouver, B.C., Canada.

I just was just so moved by seeing the photos of
people I have been communicating with that I
thought I would do the same.

I read the info from your link.
Fascinating. I recommend everyone
have a look at it.

Hi edwards112! So nice to see you here!
I've been reading your posts about your
weight loss. Wow!

Hi Sondra! I'm so glad you joined us.

Myhealthmatters to me, your weight loss is
amazing as well!

And for everyone else, welcome! Feel free to
discuss whatever you like. Ask questions and
share stories, share photos.

I can't wait to join all you guys on the
program. I'm so looking forward to it!

You and your daughter are absolutely beautiful!

It's so nice to put a face to the name.

I wish I was able to let someone take my picture.
I guess over the years---little comments being made
---leave you very self-conscious.

Nice to see you here!

Nightowl

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   o 3-5
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   o 10+


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Thanks!

On one of the other boards, medhelp I think, someone started a mental thought about God wants her to have a better life. Her comments reminded me of some of my own beliefs.

I made a distiction a while ago about my weight being a prevention. I realized that it was being so overweight that was preventing me from doing many things I could be doing currently, and if continued unchecked, my weight might prevent me from fullfilling a path that God might hope for me to chose.

My dad once said to me, "there are not really any obese old people." It caused me to think about my (our) 6 children, and one day their children and that I might not be present to influence their lives for good if I do not take care of myself today.

I am not sure if I articulating myself correctly, bottom line, this body won't last to do all the things that I believe God would like to see me do.

I need to make this work. I really have done so much damage to my body via strange and unusual behaviours, that I have to make this work. And to do that, I am going to need support.

Thanks for being here for me, for all of us. I am sure that this time, we all want to win today for the long term.

Jodie

i am on day 3 of the injections and am doing pretty well... i'm just
having one problem.  this stuff is leaving very large bruises were ever
i put it. i have watched the videos and read all the instructions and
even talked to an RN friend of mine and it sounds like i'm doing it
correctly.  is anyone else having this problem or does anyone have
solution?   i'm starting to look like a JUNKIE.  HELP ME!!!!!

One of the many things that I like about this forum is that we can
share photo's and really connect with others. Although, like myself and
nightowl, we are the camera holders by design, it is good to have a
visual connect with our supports.

Also, thanks for all your hard work nightowl, your amazing!

Jodie

Ps, very cute little girl, you are making a difference in her life by
taking a new, healthier path.

I have created a weight loss journal for all
the members.

To access it click on "Database" on the top left
of the page. This will bring up three tables. The
first one is for the first 6 week program, the
second for those doing a 2nd 6 week program, and
the third for those doing a 3rd 6 week program.
I can create another if anyone wishes.

Just click on "Weight Loss Journal", then go to
the top of the page and click on "Add Record".
This gives you access to put in your
information---if you chose to.

When you're done, then click on "Add Record" at
the bottom of the page.

Once you do this then your information will
show up in the table for all to see. If you
want to delete your file, or change anything,
or add anything, all you have to do is click
on "Edit" or "Delete" in the table to the
right of your name.

I have added my name and goal weight. As I haven't
started yet, I don't know my starting weight. I have
finished a cleanse but I am having to wait before I
can start the program. I have lost 3.5 lbs in the
last 5 days just eating properly. So once I start I
will then put in the rest of my info.

Everyone is welcome to join us in the table. Don't
feel you have to if you are uncomfortable with that.
This forum is meant as a place of support and
encouragement.

Please feel free to share your experiences or
information you may have found. Ask any questions
you like and we will try to answer them.

Remember we are not doctors so if you are in
any way concerned we encourage you to consult a
physician. The instructions are meant as a
guideline and a suggestion.

Hi Everyone,

I have uploaded a couple of new posts in the
"Files" section.

One is about plateaus---from KT's book.

The other is info I have taken off of the net
about the various teas that KT recommends.

I found it very informative and useful.

I hope you will as well.

Yes, I left the other Yahoo group because the
moderator deleted my post about moisturizer.

I was so shocked by that I decided to leave.
I don't want to post and wonder if it is going
to be there when I come back.

It was supposed to be a place of open
communication.

Anyway, yes I need to get back to my writing.
I had spent a couple of weeks figuring this whole
thing out. And now that I have, I really need to
get back to my latest book. Once I do, it will
take most of my time, but I hope to be able to pop
in here every day for a quick hello, and to see
everyone's progress.

I hope to be starting soon. I am getting my food
all ready now---dividing it up into 100 gram
servings.

It's good to see you all here and I look forward to
reading everyone's experiences.

Hi Heather,

Nice to have you here. There is so much learn about and I know that I
personally am going to have some major food/eathing behaviours to
overcome. I am grateful to anyone who is willing to share their hcg
protocol journey.

Yours in reduction,

Jodie
--- In Hcg_support@yahoogroups.com, "heathrod651" <heathrod651@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Jodie and Nightowl!  Nightowl it's nice to see you again, I was
> starting to worry about you!!  Someone had mentioned that you were
> writing a book and focusing all your efforts on that, so I just
thought
> you were extremely busy...I had no idea that you actually left the
> other yahoo group!
>
> Well it's great to be part of two groups now and I'm looking forward
to
> sharing this journey with all of you!
>
> Heather
>

Hello Jodie and Nightowl!  Nightowl it's nice to see you again, I was
starting to worry about you!!  Someone had mentioned that you were
writing a book and focusing all your efforts on that, so I just thought
you were extremely busy...I had no idea that you actually left the
other yahoo group!

Well it's great to be part of two groups now and I'm looking forward to
sharing this journey with all of you!

Heather

I've created a poll on how much weight each
of us wants to lose.

I've started the vote.

Please feel free to join in.

Nightowl

P.S. If you want me to remove it Jodie just let
me know. I guess I'm just getting all excited
about staring the protocol.

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
Hcg_support group:

How much weight do you want to lose?

   o 0-10 lbs
   o 10-20 lbs
   o 20-30 lbs
   o 30-40 lbs
   o 40-50 lbs
   o 50-60 lbs
   o 60-70 lbs
   o 70-80 lbs
   o 80-90 lbs
   o 90-100 lbs
   o 100 or more lbs


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Thanks!

Two members of my family are using
baking soda as a deodorant.

I thought I would suggest it as an
alternative during the program.

It does work, but you must keep in mind
that it is not an anti-perspirant.

If you shave it may sting a little.

Does anyone else have any effective
suggestions?

How about a shampoo that doesn't have any
oil or fat in it but that doesn't cost a
fortune.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Nightowl

The title pretty much says it all.

I called the health food store and asked
someone if they could recommend Aloe Vera
Gel as a skin moisturizer. The girl I talked
to said that she had been using it as a
moisturizer herself for years.

I asked if it left the skin feeling sticky
or dry and she said no.

I can get an 8 oz. bottle for $4.99 and I
am told it will last a really long time.

So I am going to give it a try and let you
know what I think of it. I'll pick some up
next time I am in town and then use it to
moisturize my hands as soon as I get home.

I read that someone else is already using it
and she says it works great.

Hi Jodie,

You have a beautiful family!!!

I posted in the hcg protocol thread that you
started a Yahoo support group, and that you are
interested in continued communication, sharing
and support.

I think this will be a nice place to do it.

I don't have any pictures of me, as I won't allow
anyone to take them . . . lol. Once I have lost
to my goal weight though, I wouldn't mind letting
someone take my picture, so everyone can see what
a nightowl looks like, lol!

Hello Everyone,

I uploaded the HCG instructions into the Files
section. All you have to do to read them is go
to "Files" up on the top left of the page and
click on it to access the files.

I have also provided a sketch of injections
sites---DO NOT INJECT INTO THE STOMACH. I have
also recapped some info already covered in the
instructions so that you can access it directly,
if you wish.

These instructions should answer any questions
that someone new may ask . . . I hope. If not, ask
away and someone will try to answer it for you.

Remember that we are not doctors, so it is
strongly advised that you consult a physician
if you have any concerns whatsoever.

Good Luck, everyone, and I look forward to our
success!

Nightowl

Hi Jodie,

I see that you posted the instructions that edwards112
and I put together---along with the help of LisaRN
and Bass_Master, I might add.

I had joined another Yahoo group, but the moderator
had deleted my post, so I left.

I am looking forward to communicating with everyone
here, and I'm really excited about starting the protocol.

This will be a great place to share our progress and
offer support to each other.

Good luck everyone!

this is copied with permission from Edwards 112 on natural cures.com

KT's Book: This weight loss protocol is based on the book `The Weight
Loss Cure' They Don't Want You to Know About. If you don't have it,
get it. None of the following info will make sense without it.

Dr. Simeons' manuscript: You should also read this before you make
any final decisions about how you are going to use this protocol. You
can find it at:

http://www.naturalcures.com/NC/Members/poundsAndInches.aspx

Hint: Copy and paste the above address into your address bar (that
way you get everything right). Then Bookmark or Add to Favorites for
future use. If you prefer a hard copy then print it out

What to order:

You can buy your hcg from anabolic-pharma.com They sell Pregnyl by
Organon. This is a natural, polypeptide, urine-based hcg.

You can also order from hcgmail.com. Their price is $299 vs $66 at
anabolic-pharma.com.

You can also order (6) 1500 IU ampoules from drugdelivery.ca for only
$89.95 USD.

You want two (2) 5000 IU ampoules ($66 USD) or 6 1500 IU ampoules
($89.95 USD). The difference to consider between choosing the 5000 IU
and the 1500 IU has only to do with how long the Pregnyl stays fresh
in the fridge after mixing. It has been stated by several different
people who are doing research on this that the hcg will last up to
one month in the fridge. AND it probably will. If you are willing to
spend the extra $24 (for 6 1500 IU ampoules) you would be mixing a
new batch of hcg every week. So it would only stay in the fridge for
7-8 days instead of 25-28. You would be more assured of the hcg not
loosing it's potency. You only use what you need and discard the
remainder.

Suggestion about storing 5000IU mixture in the fridge: If you choose
the 5000 IU ampoules method, use only 23 injections from the first
mixture then throw the rest away, and then mix your second ampoule to
use for the remainder of your treatment. This way you are only
storing the hcg for 22 days in the fridge instead of 25-28. There
would be less chance of the hcg losing it's potency this way.


Here is an overview on the mixing process:

If you bought 5000 IU then that would give you 25 doses of 200 IU or
28 doses of 175 IU. The recommended dosage mentioned in KT's book is
175-200 IU (Read page 123 in KT's book in the question "Has there
been any changes to Dr. Simeons' "Weight loss Protocol"?). This is
important!! You need to first decide want size dose you are going to
take. More is not necessarily better. Your body could become immune
to the hcg near the end of your treatment if the dosage is too high.
You should read what Dr. Simeons has to say about it on page 7 of his
manuscript. What you need to consider is "how toxic are you?". If you
did some of the cleansing in phase 1 and/or have been eating organic
foods etc., then you should consider using 175 IU. If you are going
right into Phase 2 without doing any of Phase 1 and haven't done any
body cleansing you might be better off with 200 IU. That is the best
general advice to offer.

The powder comes in concentrated form and there is an amount of
liquid to mix it with. If the amount they have given you is 1 ml.
then that will give you 1 ml of 5000 IU. This is far too small to try
to divide up into 25 doses. So, the site that discussed Pregnyl
suggested that what you do is dilute it with your own bacteriostatic
water. That is sterile water that you get from a medical supply site,
or your local pharmacy, that is safe for injecting.

IMPORTANT! DO NOT MIX TWO DIFFERENT LIQUIDS WITH THE HCG. The hcg
probably comes with 1 ml of isotonic sodium chloride---I know the
Pregnyl does. You do not want to mix this with any of the above
mentioned liquids. You only want to use "one" liquid to dissolve the
powder, SO DISCARD THE LIQUID IT COMES WITH!!!

Now you dilute your own Pregnyl in a very sterile environment. You
want to make the doses easy to manage. So you can give yourself the
same dosage each morning.

IMPORTANT SUGGESTION:

Here is what I learned when mixing my first batch of hcg: When I went
to withdraw the hcg to place it in the BC water, I quickly realized
that the needle was too short to reach the bottom of the ampoule. The
ampoules are 2" deep and I have 1" needles. So I had to tilt the
ampoule on its side to get the mixture close enough to withdraw and
it took some time to get it all in the syringe. You don't want to
miss any because it will affect the dosage formula of the mixture.

I discussed the issue with LisaRN and she confirmed that you CAN
invert the ampoule (turn it upside down) WITH the hcg in it and the
mix will not come out. It is simple physics. The design of the
ampoule creates a vacuum in the ampoule that prevents the mix from
draining out. It sounds crazy and it is scary to do because you don't
want to lose the hcg. But it works.

So here is our suggestion: Take the water ampoule that comes with
your hcg and PRACTICE WITH IT until you are comfortable (you will be
throwing that water away anyways). Tips: NEVER insert AIR into the
ampoule like you do when you withdraw from a vial. The inserted air
breaks the vacuum and all the liquid will come out very fast.
Secondly, just put the point of the needle in far enough to be in the
liquid. Then draw back VERY SLOWLY. At the end, you may need to tilt
the ampoule to get the very last drops.

Again, practice with the water ampoule FIRST until you are
comfortable with the process.

Mixing procedure: FOR 200 IU INJECTIONS WITH A 5000 IU AMPOULE OF
PREGNYL:

Note: You should first set out all your mixing materials. Then wash
your hands (preferably with an anti-bacterial soap). Dry with a CLEAN
towel or paper towel.

Important Tip: Regarding opening the glass ampoule of hcg: Sometimes
glass ampoules are a little tricky to open. To open, cleanse the top
with alcohol, use the wrapper the alcohol wipe comes in to cover the
top of the ampoule (i.e. use the inside portion of the wrapper) and
snap quickly away from you. You can also use the alcohol wipe itself.
This way, you won't cut yourself with the glass (which I have done
numerous times)!


•Swab the top of the 30cc bacteriostatic water vial with rubbing
alcohol and the top of a new sterile GLASS vial with rubbing alcohol
(using a new swab for the Glass vial).
•Using a 30cc syringe - draw out 25cc of BC water.
•Replace needle.
•Inject 1cc into Pregnyl ampoule to mix hcg powder (slowly down the
side) DO NOT let the needle touch anything, even the hcg ampoule. If
it does, replace the needle before the next step.
•Inject 24cc of BC water into the new Glass vial.
•Swish the liquid slowly in the hcg ampoule until it is all dissolved
(Never shake it).
•With a new 3cc syringe draw out the 1cc of Pregnyl.
•Replace the needle.
•Swab the Glass vial and inject the Pregnyl into the new sterile
Glass vial containing the 24 cc. of BC water.

Now you have 25 doses of 1 ml each. 1 ml. = 1 cc. You would now draw
1 cc. of the mixture into a new 3cc syringe each morning and that
should give you your 200 IU Dose

Of course, always remember to swab the top of the rubber on the vial
each time for your daily injections.

DO NOT TOUCH THE NEEDLE!

Mixing procedure: FOR 175 IU INJECTIONS WITH A 5000 IU AMPOULE OF
PREGNYL:

The mixing procedure is exactly the same as the 200 IU procedure
EXCEPT you would draw out 28.5 cc. of bacteriostatic water instead of
25 cc. of BC water. Now you have 28 doses of 1 ml each. 1 ml. = 1 cc.
You would now draw 1 cc. of the mixture into a new 3cc syringe each
morning and that will give you your 175 IU Dose.

Mixing procedure: FOR 200 IU INJECTIONS WITH A 1500 IU AMPOULE OF
PREGNYL:

The mixing procedure is exactly the same as the above procedure
EXCEPT you would draw out 7.5 cc. of bacteriostatic water instead of
25 cc. of BC water. Now you have 7 doses of 1 ml each. 1 ml. = 1 cc.
You would now draw 1 cc. of the mixture into a new 3cc syringe each
morning and that should give you your 200 IU Dose.

Mixing procedure: FOR 175 IU INJECTIONS WITH A 1500 IU AMPOULE OF
PREGNLY:

The mixing procedure is exactly the same as the above procedure
EXCEPT you would draw out 8.5 cc. of bacteriostatic water instead of
25 cc. of BC water. Now you have 8 doses of 1 ml each. 1 ml. = 1 cc.
You would now draw 1 cc. of the mixture into a new 3cc syringe each
morning and that should give you your 175 IU Dose.

Mixing procedure: FOR HCGMAIL users 1000 IU ampoules WITH DAILY
injections:

The mixing procedure is exactly the same as the above procedure
EXCEPT you would draw out 5.7 cc of bacteriostatic water for 175 IU
injections and 5cc of bacteriostatic water for 200 IU injections IF
you are doing daily injections. If you are going to follow hcgmails
protocol of 500 IU every other day, then these suggestions don't
apply to you.

Syringes and mixing supplies

You can get your syringes, bacteriostatic water, empty sterile vials,
and needles from:
www.androusa.com
www.researchsupply.net
www.gpzservices.com

If you want a thinner needle you should go with researchsupply.net.

It is recommended that you change the needle after you draw out your
daily injection form the hcg ampoule. This is due to the fact that
the needle will dull up to 50% when it pierces through the hard
rubber top of the vial. A new SHARP needle will cause you less pain
when injecting.

Use a GLASS vial to store your mixed hcg in: Many have questioned why
they can't just use the 30cc vial the BC water comes in. The reason
is, that vial is PLASTIC. Plastic is okay for water. Also, the Glass
vial blocks uva and uvb light that could break down the hcg.

You should order: FOR 5000 IU AMPOULES

•1 box (100) of 25g-30g x 1" 3cc luer lock syringe and needle combo
(The larger the needle gauge the smaller the needle size). A smaller
needle means less pain (29g-30g seems to be what most are going with).
•50-100 extra luer lock 25g–30g x 1" needles
•2 30cc sterile vials
•2 30cc syringes
•2 30cc vials of bacteriostatic water

You should order: FOR 1500 IU AMPOULES

•1 box (100) of 25g-30g x 1" 3cc luer lock syringe and needle combo
(The larger the needle gauge the smaller the needle). A smaller
needle means less pain (29g-30g seems to be what most are going with).
•50-100 extra luer lock 25g–30g x 1" needles
•6 10cc sterile vials
•6 10cc syringes
•2 30cc vials of bacteriostatic water

The supplies mentioned above will provide you with enough materials
to do one 45 day program.

For two 45 day programs you will need to order:

•You should order the same amount of syringe/needle combos (100)
•100 extra needles (instead of 50)
•Then double the amount of 10cc or 30ccc syringes
•Double the amount of sterile vials
•Double the amount of 30cc vials of bacteriostatic water

Daily injections:

It is recommended that your hcg be at room temperature when you
inject it (it stings more when it is cold). So, once you have filled
your syringe put the needle cover back on, (remember, don't touch the
needle) then put the vial back into the fridge and let the syringe
sit out until it warms up. Don't let the vial stay out in room
temperature for very long.

•Swab the top of the GLASS vial containing your hcg with a rubbing
alcohol swab. Draw out the hcg
•Replace the needle
•Swab your skin with a rubbing alcohol swab. Let it dry slightly.
•Give yourself the injection

Discard the syringe and needles in a hard plastic container, such as
a Tide bottle. Secure the top with the original cap and then place
them into the trash. That way no one is exposed to needle sticks.

How to Inject:

For a detailed description on how to do an injection, please go to
these sites:

www.bodybuildingprogramzone.com/Articles/article184.htm
www.anabolic-pharma.com

Tips for injecting:

We have also posted the "Tips for Injections" from the
bodybuildingprogramzone site in the post just below this information
for your convenience.

For Pictures of the areas to inject: www.spotinjections.com. And
http://www.firstivf.net/injection_sites.jpg
(A picture is worth a thousand words)

Rotate your injection sites and relax the muscle:

When administering HCG please rotate your injection sites: do not
inject into the same spot 2 days in a row.

Repeated injections into the same site can cause abscesses. Use your
upper arms (deltoid muscle), front of thigh (quadriceps muscle), and
upper, outer corner of buttocks.

It is important to not inject into the center of the buttock as one
could easily hit or damage the sciatic nerve.

A good suggestion is to rotate your injections as follows: right quad
(leg), left quad, right arm, left arm, right gluteus (buttock), and
then left gluteus.

This will help to prevent abscesses and scar tissue building up over
the 40-45 days of injections.

The muscle should be somewhat relaxed but this is often difficult
when injecting yourself because we tend to tense up. Be that as it
may:

•Injecting into the glutes: To relax the glutes, put most of your
weight on the opposite leg and stand in a relaxed tip-toe stance or
bend your leg slightly on the glute you are injecting (hope that made
sense!)
•Injecting into the arm: hold the arm at a 90 degree angle
•If injecting into the leg: just be sitting down.

Some additional important tips are:

Length of needle:

It is most commonly believed that a 1" needle is needed for most of
our applications. That is long enough to reach deep in the muscle for
better absorption of the hcg. The recommended injection method is IM
(intramuscular). It is possible you may need a 1 ½" needle. This
would be necessary if the amount of fat you have in the injection
site is substantial. Below is a tip from an RN:

A 1 1/2" needle for the arm or leg is quite long unless you have a
fair amount of subq tissue (fat in that area). Something easy to do
to check: pinch the fat on the front of leg and arm (not the back of
the arm, the side of the arm, deltoid muscle) to see how much you
have. If you can easily feel muscle then use a 1", if you
can pinch an inch or more of tissue and cannot feel muscle then the
longer needle is ok. You don't want to hit bone or blood vessels.
Also, you don't have to insert the needle all the way to the hub of
the needle. (For those
that don't know what the hub is, it's where the needle meets the
syringe). I think a 1/2" needle is too short for an IM injection.

How Much to Inject:

The above instructions give you 1 ml doses. For anyone wishing to mix
daily doses of a greater size, then you must realize that you should
not inject more than 1 cc. into the arm---3cc in all muscles except
the arm, which is no more than 1cc. It has to do with absorption of
the medication r/t muscle size.

In conclusion: It took countless hours of research on the web, asking
questions to pharmacists, on the phone with medical supply companies
and reading and responding to post on this forum to come to the
conclusions that this post lays out. We are happy and delighted to
share this with everyone.

Please read and re-read this information until you are comfortable
with it. We did not explain in each step how we came to these
conclusions. We felt that would make this post too lengthy. But every
suggestion here has been discussed and researched at length before we
included it in this list of suggestions.

IF YOU ARE USING THIS PROTOCOL UNDER THE CARE OF A LICENSED PHYSIAN –
PLEASE FOLLOW YOUR DOCTORS ADVICE.

We hope this helps.





Edited: 4/14/2007 9:25:13 AM by edwards112