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Messages In This Digest (6 Messages)
- 1a.
- Listening with a stethoset From: Jessica Levine
- 1b.
- Re: Listening with a stethoset From: Julia Fitzer
- 1c.
- Re: Listening with a stethoset From: Tina Childress
- 1d.
- Re: Listening with a stethoset From: Mark Campbell
- 1e.
- Re: Listening with a stethoset From: Julia Fitzer
- 1f.
- Re: Listening with a stethoset From: Mark Campbell
Messages
- 1a.
Listening with a stethoset
Posted by: "Jessica Levine" jessica.l.levine@... jstarrynite13
Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:24 am (PST)
Hi,
I am a first year AuD student at Northwestern and I am just starting to get
my "feet wet" in the clinic. How do you use a stethoset with your cochlear
implant during a listening check on a hearing aid? Anyone who has a freedom
or nucleus device would be the most helpful. I have bilateral cochlear
implants (one freedom and one N24) but I am open to suggestions from a
unilateral user or other CI brand users.
I looked up on the AMPHL website of how some stethosets are made-- but I was
wondering if there are any other places online that I can buy a stethoset
that is compatible to my CI? Did you have to make your own stethoset by
being creative?
Thanks,
Jessica
- 1b.
Re: Listening with a stethoset
Posted by: "Julia Fitzer" fitzerjulie@... fitzerjulie
Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:42 am (PST)
Jessica,
I have a CI, too.
What I did was buy a microphone from radioshack that
can plug into my processor- you can do this with a
microphone from a FM system, too.
Buy two stethosets, they are about $24 online. Cut
the tubing from one so you have a tube with the rubber
on one end. Put the rubber from the other stethoset
on the other end so you wind up with a tube with
rubber tips on both ends. Tape one rubber end on the
microphone, and plug the microphone into your
processor. Put hearing aid into the other end.
You can use this to do quick checks of insert
earphones, too- put a pediatric tip on the insert
earphone and put the tip in the rubber.
It helps if you can have a program with a 0/100 mixing
ratio, meaning your processor only gets the sound from
the auxiliary input. I find that otherwise I can't
separate out what's coming from the aid and what's
coming from the processor.
If you have a FM system, you can also plug the
microphone contraption as described above into the
transmitter.
I find that it's easier to hear the sound level
difference for directionality if I rub my hand or an
index card on a table and turn the aid- I'm not real
confident that I really keep my voice at one level for
that check and can separate out what I'm hearing of my
voice directly and what I am hearing from the aid
being checked. You could also just have some speakers
on a computer and play some sound files to listen for
it.
Julie
--- Jessica Levine <jessica.l.levine@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a first year AuD student at Northwestern and I
> am just starting to get
> my "feet wet" in the clinic. How do you use a
> stethoset with your cochlear
> implant during a listening check on a hearing aid?
> Anyone who has a freedom
> or nucleus device would be the most helpful. I have
> bilateral cochlear
> implants (one freedom and one N24) but I am open to
> suggestions from a
> unilateral user or other CI brand users.
>
> I looked up on the AMPHL website of how some
> stethosets are made-- but I was
> wondering if there are any other places online that
> I can buy a stethoset
> that is compatible to my CI? Did you have to make
> your own stethoset by
> being creative?
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>
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- 1c.
Re: Listening with a stethoset
Posted by: "Tina Childress" MChildress@... hlpuears
Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:37 am (PST)
Hi Jess,
If you'd like to see a picture of what Julia is describing below, you can go to the AMPHL (Association of Medical Professionals with Hearing Loss) website at http://www.amphl.org/audiology.php and scroll down and then you'll see the picture. There's lots of good information on that page. By the way, you don't necessarily have to buy two stethosets...you can just order the rubber tips separately ( e.g., Hal-Hen: http://www.hal-hen.com/cgi-bin/info.cgi?id=787-TSD&ls=dc~C~15) and for tubing, just slightly shorten someone's stethoset when they're not looking. <smile>
Because you're using two BTEs, you're gonna have to use your auxiliary cable and then get a 3.5 mm male to male adapter (from RadioShack or Cochlear) so that you can plug in the microphone that Julia talks about. If you were using a body processor, you would just plug the microphone into the auxiliary jack. I find the latter option much easier than using all of the patch cables. I like Julia's suggestion of plugging the microphone in to the transmitter as well.
The only thing that I'd like to add is that while doing listening checks, I remember that oftentimes the higher powered hearing aids (fit for moderately severe - profound loss) would send me into compression with my CI so be aware of that factor as well.
I consistently used the Ling Sounds for listening checks.
Good luck!
~ TIna ~
Tina Childress, M.A., CCC-A
Consumer Services Specialist
Advanced Bionics
Bilateral CI User (08/00 and 12/05)
Tina.Childress@...
Toll-free: 800/678-2575
________________________________
From: HOHAudiologists@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Julia Fitzer
Sent: Thu 1/10/2008 10:42 AM
To: HOHAudiologists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HOHAudiologists] Listening with a stethoset
Jessica,
I have a CI, too.
What I did was buy a microphone from radioshack that
can plug into my processor- you can do this with a
microphone from a FM system, too.
Buy two stethosets, they are about $24 online. Cut
the tubing from one so you have a tube with the rubber
on one end. Put the rubber from the other stethoset
on the other end so you wind up with a tube with
rubber tips on both ends. Tape one rubber end on the
microphone, and plug the microphone into your
processor. Put hearing aid into the other end.
You can use this to do quick checks of insert
earphones, too- put a pediatric tip on the insert
earphone and put the tip in the rubber.
It helps if you can have a program with a 0/100 mixing
ratio, meaning your processor only gets the sound from
the auxiliary input. I find that otherwise I can't
separate out what's coming from the aid and what's
coming from the processor.
If you have a FM system, you can also plug the
microphone contraption as described above into the
transmitter.
I find that it's easier to hear the sound level
difference for directionality if I rub my hand or an
index card on a table and turn the aid- I'm not real
confident that I really keep my voice at one level for
that check and can separate out what I'm hearing of my
voice directly and what I am hearing from the aid
being checked. You could also just have some speakers
on a computer and play some sound files to listen for
it.
Julie
--- Jessica Levine <jessica.l.levine@... <mailto:jessica.l.levine%40gmail.com > > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a first year AuD student at Northwestern and I
> am just starting to get
> my "feet wet" in the clinic. How do you use a
> stethoset with your cochlear
> implant during a listening check on a hearing aid?
> Anyone who has a freedom
> or nucleus device would be the most helpful. I have
> bilateral cochlear
> implants (one freedom and one N24) but I am open to
> suggestions from a
> unilateral user or other CI brand users.
>
> I looked up on the AMPHL website of how some
> stethosets are made-- but I was
> wondering if there are any other places online that
> I can buy a stethoset
> that is compatible to my CI? Did you have to make
> your own stethoset by
> being creative?
>
> Thanks,
> Jessica
>
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- 1d.
Re: Listening with a stethoset
Posted by: "Mark Campbell" MarkCampbell@... mark04hc
Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:51 pm (PST)
Hello,
This is always a great topic as so many people have a lot of suggestions.
Could I have the link to the radioshack microphone that you purchased Julie?
I have a Freedom Cochlear Implant and use a Phonak Smartlink FM transmitter.
Currently, I have to use the adapter that connects to the bottom of the
Phonak transmitter that connects external extensions. I plug in the audio
cable to connect to an amplifier that I had made. The amplifier has an
output with a microphone bud. This is where I then put the hearing aid
connected to a bulb. The hearing aid sound goes through the amplifier, then
through the FM transmitter. However, whenever I put this microphone bud that
is plugged into the amplifier, directly into the adapter of the SmartLink it
never pick ups the hearing aid. I think it has to do with the level not
being loud enough to trigger the SmartLink into "Audio" mode. *I really want
to find a microphone that I can just directly plug into the SmartLink
adapter that will trigger the FM transmitter into "audio" mode. *Has anyone
found something like this? I would really like to reduce the equipment I
have to carry in my pocket by getting rid of this amplifier.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Mark
On Jan 10, 2008 11:42 AM, Julia Fitzer <fitzerjulie@...> wrote:
> Jessica,
>
> I have a CI, too.
> What I did was buy a microphone from radioshack that
> can plug into my processor- you can do this with a
> microphone from a FM system, too.
> Buy two stethosets, they are about $24 online. Cut
> the tubing from one so you have a tube with the rubber
> on one end. Put the rubber from the other stethoset
> on the other end so you wind up with a tube with
> rubber tips on both ends. Tape one rubber end on the
> microphone, and plug the microphone into your
> processor. Put hearing aid into the other end.
> You can use this to do quick checks of insert
> earphones, too- put a pediatric tip on the insert
> earphone and put the tip in the rubber.
> It helps if you can have a program with a 0/100 mixing
> ratio, meaning your processor only gets the sound from
> the auxiliary input. I find that otherwise I can't
> separate out what's coming from the aid and what's
> coming from the processor.
> If you have a FM system, you can also plug the
> microphone contraption as described above into the
> transmitter.
> I find that it's easier to hear the sound level
> difference for directionality if I rub my hand or an
> index card on a table and turn the aid- I'm not real
> confident that I really keep my voice at one level for
> that check and can separate out what I'm hearing of my
> voice directly and what I am hearing from the aid
> being checked. You could also just have some speakers
> on a computer and play some sound files to listen for
> it.
> Julie
>
>
> --- Jessica Levine <jessica.l.levine@...<jessica.l.levine%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a first year AuD student at Northwestern and I
> > am just starting to get
> > my "feet wet" in the clinic. How do you use a
> > stethoset with your cochlear
> > implant during a listening check on a hearing aid?
> > Anyone who has a freedom
> > or nucleus device would be the most helpful. I have
> > bilateral cochlear
> > implants (one freedom and one N24) but I am open to
> > suggestions from a
> > unilateral user or other CI brand users.
> >
> > I looked up on the AMPHL website of how some
> > stethosets are made-- but I was
> > wondering if there are any other places online that
> > I can buy a stethoset
> > that is compatible to my CI? Did you have to make
> > your own stethoset by
> > being creative?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jessica
> >
>
> __________________________________________________________
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>
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- 1e.
Re: Listening with a stethoset
Posted by: "Julia Fitzer" fitzerjulie@... fitzerjulie
Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:57 pm (PST)
My microphone was just whatever was the cheapest at
radioshack- I just made sure it had the right size
plug that could fit into my CI. I have also used old
microphones from FM systems like an old Williams
Sound. It doesn't really matter as far as I know.
I have the Smart Link FM transmitter, too. I found
out when I tried to hook up external microphones to it
that the audio input jack doesn't work with just any
microphone. One has to buy a FM microphone from Phonak
directly- It is the FM microphone for the Campus S and
is about $90.
--- Mark Campbell <MarkCampbell@...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is always a great topic as so many people have
> a lot of suggestions.
> Could I have the link to the radioshack microphone
> that you purchased Julie?
> I have a Freedom Cochlear Implant and use a Phonak
> Smartlink FM transmitter.
> Currently, I have to use the adapter that connects
> to the bottom of the
> Phonak transmitter that connects external
> extensions. I plug in the audio
> cable to connect to an amplifier that I had made.
> The amplifier has an
> output with a microphone bud. This is where I then
> put the hearing aid
> connected to a bulb. The hearing aid sound goes
> through the amplifier, then
> through the FM transmitter. However, whenever I put
> this microphone bud that
> is plugged into the amplifier, directly into the
> adapter of the SmartLink it
> never pick ups the hearing aid. I think it has to do
> with the level not
> being loud enough to trigger the SmartLink into
> "Audio" mode. *I really want
> to find a microphone that I can just directly plug
> into the SmartLink
> adapter that will trigger the FM transmitter into
> "audio" mode. *Has anyone
> found something like this? I would really like to
> reduce the equipment I
> have to carry in my pocket by getting rid of this
> amplifier.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Mark
>
> On Jan 10, 2008 11:42 AM, Julia Fitzer
> <fitzerjulie@...> wrote:
>
> > Jessica,
> >
> > I have a CI, too.
> > What I did was buy a microphone from radioshack
> that
> > can plug into my processor- you can do this with a
> > microphone from a FM system, too.
> > Buy two stethosets, they are about $24 online. Cut
> > the tubing from one so you have a tube with the
> rubber
> > on one end. Put the rubber from the other
> stethoset
> > on the other end so you wind up with a tube with
> > rubber tips on both ends. Tape one rubber end on
> the
> > microphone, and plug the microphone into your
> > processor. Put hearing aid into the other end.
> > You can use this to do quick checks of insert
> > earphones, too- put a pediatric tip on the insert
> > earphone and put the tip in the rubber.
> > It helps if you can have a program with a 0/100
> mixing
> > ratio, meaning your processor only gets the sound
> from
> > the auxiliary input. I find that otherwise I can't
> > separate out what's coming from the aid and what's
> > coming from the processor.
> > If you have a FM system, you can also plug the
> > microphone contraption as described above into the
> > transmitter.
> > I find that it's easier to hear the sound level
> > difference for directionality if I rub my hand or
> an
> > index card on a table and turn the aid- I'm not
> real
> > confident that I really keep my voice at one level
> for
> > that check and can separate out what I'm hearing
> of my
> > voice directly and what I am hearing from the aid
> > being checked. You could also just have some
> speakers
> > on a computer and play some sound files to listen
> for
> > it.
> > Julie
> >
> >
> > --- Jessica Levine
>
<jessica.l.levine@...<jessica.l.levine%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am a first year AuD student at Northwestern
> and I
> > > am just starting to get
> > > my "feet wet" in the clinic. How do you use a
> > > stethoset with your cochlear
> > > implant during a listening check on a hearing
> aid?
> > > Anyone who has a freedom
> > > or nucleus device would be the most helpful. I
> have
> > > bilateral cochlear
> > > implants (one freedom and one N24) but I am open
> to
> > > suggestions from a
> > > unilateral user or other CI brand users.
> > >
> > > I looked up on the AMPHL website of how some
> > > stethosets are made-- but I was
> > > wondering if there are any other places online
> that
> > > I can buy a stethoset
> > > that is compatible to my CI? Did you have to
> make
> > > your own stethoset by
> > > being creative?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jessica
> > >
> >
> >
>
__________________________________________________________
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> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> >
>
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mark F. Campbell
>
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- 1f.
Re: Listening with a stethoset
Posted by: "Mark Campbell" MarkCampbell@... mark04hc
Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:00 pm (PST)
Hello Julia,
How did you get it to fit into your CI? Sorry I actually never use my direct
audio input. I currently have a Cochlear Freedom implant. Can you offer me
guidance!
Thanks much!
Mark
On Jan 10, 2008 8:57 PM, Julia Fitzer <fitzerjulie@...> wrote:
> My microphone was just whatever was the cheapest at
> radioshack- I just made sure it had the right size
> plug that could fit into my CI. I have also used old
> microphones from FM systems like an old Williams
> Sound. It doesn't really matter as far as I know.
>
> I have the Smart Link FM transmitter, too. I found
> out when I tried to hook up external microphones to it
> that the audio input jack doesn't work with just any
> microphone. One has to buy a FM microphone from Phonak
> directly- It is the FM microphone for the Campus S and
> is about $90.
>
>
> --- Mark Campbell <MarkCampbell@... <MarkCampbell%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is always a great topic as so many people have
> > a lot of suggestions.
> > Could I have the link to the radioshack microphone
> > that you purchased Julie?
> > I have a Freedom Cochlear Implant and use a Phonak
> > Smartlink FM transmitter.
> > Currently, I have to use the adapter that connects
> > to the bottom of the
> > Phonak transmitter that connects external
> > extensions. I plug in the audio
> > cable to connect to an amplifier that I had made.
> > The amplifier has an
> > output with a microphone bud. This is where I then
> > put the hearing aid
> > connected to a bulb. The hearing aid sound goes
> > through the amplifier, then
> > through the FM transmitter. However, whenever I put
> > this microphone bud that
> > is plugged into the amplifier, directly into the
> > adapter of the SmartLink it
> > never pick ups the hearing aid. I think it has to do
> > with the level not
> > being loud enough to trigger the SmartLink into
> > "Audio" mode. *I really want
> > to find a microphone that I can just directly plug
> > into the SmartLink
> > adapter that will trigger the FM transmitter into
> > "audio" mode. *Has anyone
> > found something like this? I would really like to
> > reduce the equipment I
> > have to carry in my pocket by getting rid of this
> > amplifier.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2008 11:42 AM, Julia Fitzer
> > <fitzerjulie@... <fitzerjulie%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Jessica,
> > >
> > > I have a CI, too.
> > > What I did was buy a microphone from radioshack
> > that
> > > can plug into my processor- you can do this with a
> > > microphone from a FM system, too.
> > > Buy two stethosets, they are about $24 online. Cut
> > > the tubing from one so you have a tube with the
> > rubber
> > > on one end. Put the rubber from the other
> > stethoset
> > > on the other end so you wind up with a tube with
> > > rubber tips on both ends. Tape one rubber end on
> > the
> > > microphone, and plug the microphone into your
> > > processor. Put hearing aid into the other end.
> > > You can use this to do quick checks of insert
> > > earphones, too- put a pediatric tip on the insert
> > > earphone and put the tip in the rubber.
> > > It helps if you can have a program with a 0/100
> > mixing
> > > ratio, meaning your processor only gets the sound
> > from
> > > the auxiliary input. I find that otherwise I can't
> > > separate out what's coming from the aid and what's
> > > coming from the processor.
> > > If you have a FM system, you can also plug the
> > > microphone contraption as described above into the
> > > transmitter.
> > > I find that it's easier to hear the sound level
> > > difference for directionality if I rub my hand or
> > an
> > > index card on a table and turn the aid- I'm not
> > real
> > > confident that I really keep my voice at one level
> > for
> > > that check and can separate out what I'm hearing
> > of my
> > > voice directly and what I am hearing from the aid
> > > being checked. You could also just have some
> > speakers
> > > on a computer and play some sound files to listen
> > for
> > > it.
> > > Julie
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Jessica Levine
> >
> <jessica.l.levine@... <jessica.l.levine%40gmail.com><
> jessica.l.levine%40gmail.com>>
>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am a first year AuD student at Northwestern
> > and I
> > > > am just starting to get
> > > > my "feet wet" in the clinic. How do you use a
> > > > stethoset with your cochlear
> > > > implant during a listening check on a hearing
> > aid?
> > > > Anyone who has a freedom
> > > > or nucleus device would be the most helpful. I
> > have
> > > > bilateral cochlear
> > > > implants (one freedom and one N24) but I am open
> > to
> > > > suggestions from a
> > > > unilateral user or other CI brand users.
> > > >
> > > > I looked up on the AMPHL website of how some
> > > > stethosets are made-- but I was
> > > > wondering if there are any other places online
> > that
> > > > I can buy a stethoset
> > > > that is compatible to my CI? Did you have to
> > make
> > > > your own stethoset by
> > > > being creative?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jessica
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> __________________________________________________________
> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark F. Campbell
> >
>
> __________________________________________________________
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